View Full Version : Why didn't Peter read Adam's mind?
Marvelman
11-26-2007, 09:44 PM
I hate to sound like I'm nitpicking, but this really did stand out to me. If he can read that woman's mind (whatever her name was), why couldn't he read Adam's?
Alexander III
11-26-2007, 09:46 PM
Coz Peter's an idiot.
pycer
11-26-2007, 09:46 PM
He probably can, just didn't. Peter doesn't seem to like doing that unless 'forced' to, unlike Matt.
Odysseus
11-26-2007, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by pycer
He probably can, just didn't. Peter doesn't seem to like doing that unless 'forced' to, unlike Matt.
Yeah this is the most likely explanation. Although after hearing the woman's side of the story (Adam wants to unleash the virus), I think he should have at least checked to see if it was true or not.
The fact that he didn't and just blindly listened to Adam means that Peter has had what I like to call a Maya Moment. :p
He probably wants to respect peoples privacy for the most part. I don't really think he has any reason to distrust Adam to this point. Though I would think killing a hostage might make Peter start to question Adam's motives at least.
trying2b
11-26-2007, 11:15 PM
I think it was just a big hugh PLOT HOLE/SCREW UP!
one of the 12
11-27-2007, 05:56 AM
This is a problem I've seen since last season with Peter and his power/powers. When you make a character like Peter, eventually he has so many different powers it's hard to write a realistic story around him. Every scene you could ask yourself, why didn't he use this power, or how did they sneak up on him, etc. He is actually too powerful for the storyline right now. Unless he is pitted against Sylar, I don't find his powers or his character very interesting. IMO, they should have limited him to something like 5 or 10 powers, if he gets a new one after that he loses his oldest one, that would keep him more grounded and maybe do away with a lot of the useless powers (ones we never see him use) he has collected. I mean really, how interesting is he going to be after three or four seasons of absorbing powers?
Jaded Wolf
11-27-2007, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Marvelman
I hate to sound like I'm nitpicking, but this really did stand out to me. If he can read that woman's mind (whatever her name was), why couldn't he read Adam's?
I wandered the same thing too. The only thing I could really think is since Peter is too trusty of Adam right now he has no reason to mistrust him and read his mind. Peter is not being too objective right now.
Originally posted by Marvelman
I hate to sound like I'm nitpicking, but this really did stand out to me. If he can read that woman's mind (whatever her name was), why couldn't he read Adam's?
I think Peter did that already and does know (after Adam shot that lady in the back) that Adam is not such a good guy.
I think before - Peter didn't read his mind out of respect or possibly because he just trusts people. hmmmmm.....I hope that Peter is not being a total loser and really just honestly following Adam blind. Maybe Adam has another power we don't see?
TheANIMAL (marcus)
11-27-2007, 08:31 AM
I think it was left unknown to put some confusion into peoples mind as to when and whether he has/will read Adam's thoughts.
FoxHoundito
11-27-2007, 10:03 AM
I've developed a theory.
Adam is partly unaware of some powers Peter has got. But when Peter read Victoria's mind, he realized he was too a mind reader. So from this point on he concentrated on blocking his thoughts, just like Angela did when Matt first tried to read her. Since Peter hasn't developed too well this ability (unlike Matt), he wouldn't be powerful enough to break the mental barrier developed by Adam (who is a great deal more experienced man than Peter.)
Before, Peter would have never thought of reading Adam's mind because he kind of trusted him enough. Maybe now he doesn't at the same level (after Pratt's storytelling and Adam killing her), but now Monroe is fully aware of that risk and is protecting himself.
Of course, this is just a possible and "rational" explanation of what COULD have happened offscreen (or on-screen but without meaning for us to realize it)
hansioux
11-27-2007, 11:29 AM
I guess this shows us why having too much power will make you look like an idiot for not using them.
We have Clark the BDA, and now we have Peter the BDH.
JW_102792
11-27-2007, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Marvelman
Why didn't Peter read Adam's mind?
It was in the script.
RCucs
11-27-2007, 01:03 PM
You would think that after Adam killed the hostage, and then Hiro showed up saying Adam killed his father, Peter would have at least asked questions before fighting Hiro. He seems to trust Adam too much to the point that he is being stupid. Hopefully he comes to his senses next week.
flying_girl
11-27-2007, 01:15 PM
pratt made a virus and adam got him out of the facility and saved nathan's life. adam has 2 pluses on his side and pratt has one strike. as for when hiro showed up hes just trying to stop hiro from killing adam it seems to me from the promo that peter is going to talk to hiro next episode. he is more likely to believe hiro than pratt.
RCucs
11-27-2007, 01:55 PM
What Peter needs to realize is that Adam used him to get himself out of the facility. Adam can't exactly walk through walls. He is being way to naive. Although I can see why he would trust him to a point (saving Nathan), he does not exactly know him too well. He basically only knew him during his time inside the facility and the night he escaped. The next contact they had was when he showed up in Montreal. I would be asking some questions.
JudasAce
11-27-2007, 03:13 PM
Peter is a jack of all trades, master of none. He's got Matt's abilities, but without practice, he's not as strong as Matt is with them.
Now, we saw how Angela Petrelli was able to hold back Matt for a while, so I bet it would be easy for Adam to hold off Peter indefinitely.
flying_girl
11-27-2007, 03:27 PM
the way the ability works is that the mind reader can read whats on the surface. matt has mastered his abilities so he may be able to read deeper but peter can only read what adam is thinking at that point. adam just needs to make sure hes not thinking about killing people and hes safe.
one of the 12
11-28-2007, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by flying_girl
the way the ability works is that the mind reader can read whats on the surface. matt has mastered his abilities so he may be able to read deeper but peter can only read what adam is thinking at that point. adam just needs to make sure hes not thinking about killing people and hes safe.
Have you ever tried to not think about something? It doesn't work... Your telling yourself the one think you don't want to think about, so it's on the surface. The more you would try to not think about something, the more it's going to be on your mind. And Adam has shown, killing the worlds population and getting revenge on those who locked him up is all he is thinking about.
Face it people, the writers have painted Peter in a corner with his all his powers. They have to make him look like an idiot if he has any interaction with other people. Any situation he is in, good or bad, he has a couple of powers available to help him, and he uses none...
timbojill
11-28-2007, 06:38 PM
if it wasn't for adam, Peter would still be locked up in the companies jail taking those hatian pills.
Xanderman
11-28-2007, 08:21 PM
It's a plot hole in a way, yeah, however as others have said it can probably be explained away by the fact that Peter still basically trusts Adam, and does not feel the need to invade him in this way -- not yet anyway.
magoo
12-07-2007, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Marvelman
I hate to sound like I'm nitpicking, but this really did stand out to me. If he can read that woman's mind (whatever her name was), why couldn't he read Adam's?
exactly what i thought. the reason is probably a bit of lazy writing and artistic license lol.
Marvelman
12-07-2007, 06:20 AM
Maybe Adam was thinking in Japanese? Maybe Peter doesn't have enough control over that power yet to use it properly?
pycer
12-07-2007, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Marvelman
Maybe Adam was thinking in Japanese?
:rotfl: Thats brilliant!!
Marvelman
12-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Not really. HRG pulled that trick on Matt last season. Also, if he was thinking in Japanese, wouldn't that tip Peter off that something was wrong?
pycer
12-07-2007, 02:51 PM
Nod fond of compliments, eh? I meant it by way of no one else had thought of that yet.
slayer
12-07-2007, 02:56 PM
i think it's a matter of privacy, unless peter already suspected that something was wrong, which he didn't, then he would have no reason to intrude on adam's thoughts. peter's that kind of man.
Xanderman
12-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah Peter didn't have reason to distrust Adam so he didn't feel the need to invade his mind I guess. In fact, Adam had done nothing but earn his trust in various ways. So basically he completely played Peter from the beginning.
If Peter read Adam's mind and he was thinking in Japanese, they would have shown that happen, so that's not even a possibility. I thought of this but again since they didn't show it happen it rules it out. Certain story elements are sometimes hidden from the audience to be surprises later on, but this isn't one of those things.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.10 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.