So does HRG have powers now? [Archive] - KSiteTV Television & Movie Forums

Mello Penelo

11-19-2007, 08:35 PM

A residual effect would be kind of cool for a few episodes. But it's genes-- not blood that gives people abilities.

And why the heck would he have a transfusion from Claire? What if they're not the same blood type?

Ginx

11-19-2007, 08:35 PM

I was wondering that too - because someone else had a blood transfusion and I was wondering if they had powers now too. Nathan - I was wondering if he had Kensei's power or at least could heal fast for good or if it was just a one time patch.

I would think it would be a one time patch with effects that would help the person heal faster but not super fast from then on.

faz

11-19-2007, 08:37 PM

I don't think the blood type would matter if the blood has healing powers, I mean, any effects from receiving the wrong blood type would immediately be healed from the blood itself, wouldn't it?

STFanatic

11-19-2007, 08:41 PM

Since Noah was shot in the eye and it should have damaged the brain, it would have grown the brain back, so maybe the new brain tissue will be effected.

warriorrenegade

11-19-2007, 08:42 PM

Man I hope he doesn't get them. It'd be just like killing him. Part of the love for this character stems from the fact that he doesn't have powers.

Mello Penelo

11-19-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Man I hope he doesn't get them. It'd be just like killing him. Part of the love for this character stems from the fact that he doesn't have powers.

Just like Chloe.

Ireallylikethisshow

11-19-2007, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I'm wondering if Nathan is immortal like Adam Monroe now too?

faz

11-19-2007, 08:53 PM

I don't think so, Tim Kring said in an interview a while back that certain characters on the show will NOT have powers, not now or ever, and I think he was specifically talking about HRG and Mohinder (I don't count the virus curing blood as a power). If they gave HRG powers, I would be really really annoyed.

warriorrenegade

11-19-2007, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Just like Chloe.

What's that supposed to mean?

Alexander III

11-19-2007, 09:11 PM

I dun want him to have any power.

newfan

11-19-2007, 09:18 PM

Mello Penelo

11-19-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
What's that supposed to mean?

It means Chloe sucks now and it all started with her stupid meteor power. Did you even read the post I responded to?

jazzylg

11-19-2007, 09:58 PM

You give someone tainted blood, and they inherit the properties of it (ex: hepatitus, hiv). In this case, you give someone blood with healing properties, their own blood inherits the properties. It's the same prinicpal as a transplant. People that receive a transplant have to take anti-rejection meds, in order for their bodies to welcome the new organ, as their own. Our Hrg, now has healing abilites, like it or not, no anti- rejection meds required!

warriorrenegade

11-19-2007, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
It means Chloe sucks now and it all started with her stupid meteor power. Did you even read the post I responded to?

:lol: Clearly I didn't...and it was my post:o What was I thinking?:confused: my bad.

Praxis

11-20-2007, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by faz
I don't think so, Tim Kring said in an interview a while back that certain characters on the show will NOT have powers, not now or ever, and I think he was specifically talking about HRG and Mohinder (I don't count the virus curing blood as a power). If they gave HRG powers, I would be really really annoyed.

Except that Mohinder having powers actually would make sense. Didn't Mohinder's sister Shanti have a power, seeing as the virus only kills people with powers?

one of the 12

11-20-2007, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by Praxis
Except that Mohinder having powers actually would make sense. Didn't Mohinder's sister Shanti have a power, seeing as the virus only kills people with powers?

We found out Mohinder's power last night, "human punching bag":rotfl:

Seriously, I don't think that they will give HRG or Mohinder any ability. It wouldn't help the story line at all. The fact that HRG is just a regular guy up against all these people with abilities is what makes his character great. And well, Mohinder is just Mohinder...

pycer

11-20-2007, 07:07 AM

There's really no logical reason why HRG should get powers from that, and his character is far better with no powers, so I don't see it happening.

Mello Penelo

11-20-2007, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
:lol: Clearly I didn't...and it was my post:o What was I thinking?:confused: my bad.

Hehe. It happens. It's kind of funny though. People see the name "Chloe" and automatically get defensive.

superpal1

11-20-2007, 08:56 AM

nathan does not have regenerative powers. Adams blood only cured him, he does not retain the abilities.So H R G does not have powers either.

Mello Penelo

11-20-2007, 08:59 AM

But now every time he looks in a mirror he'll see a giant gaping hole in his head.

:rotfl:

Matro

11-20-2007, 09:37 AM

I highly doubt that being injected with/consuming a Heroes blood would give someone powers. At least I hope not because this would mean that Mr. Muggles is a Hero.

pycer

11-20-2007, 11:45 AM

Right! and why would Sylar need tot bother with eating the brains if all he needed to do was be a vampire.

TheANIMAL (marcus)

11-20-2007, 12:15 PM

I wouldn't mind him having some powers for a bit, he'd be like a slightly less manic sylor, he'd still kick some serious ass though.

Rafael122

11-20-2007, 12:30 PM

Don't think Noah has powers, could it be that somehow Adam gave some of his blood to Noah?

constantine

11-20-2007, 12:33 PM

Er...I think it was adam's blood. Think about it. ou have peter and adam running rogue on the company now...He'd be a good ally for them.

Mello Penelo

11-20-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Rafael122
Don't think Noah has powers, could it be that somehow Adam gave some of his blood to Noah?

It was part of the blood Bob took from Claire.

Rafael122

11-20-2007, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
It was part of the blood Bob took from Claire.

So why would Bob save Noah?

Mello Penelo

11-20-2007, 12:38 PM

When Bob took Claire's blood, he said Noah was chosen because he was "loyal to the end." And then he said, "He has been."

constantine

11-20-2007, 12:45 PM

meh. I still think it's adam's blood, chicaboom. (I'm thinking up a new nickname for you. bear with me.)

Mello Penelo

11-20-2007, 01:35 PM

Well it won't be that one. :\

TheANIMAL (marcus)

11-20-2007, 02:25 PM

A person as resourceful and BAMF as Noah, is valuable even when he doesn't wan't to co-operate, and of course he could still lead the company to Clair, if they put enough mains electrisity through his Gonads...

Coyote

11-20-2007, 07:18 PM

Getting a blood transfusion doesn't change someone's genetic structure, so HRG's DNA probably would not be permanently rewritten to give his own body the capability to constantly manufacture the biomechanisms in Claire's blood that create her powers. His regenerating would more likely be temporary.

But then again, anything's possible in comics.

jazzylg

11-20-2007, 11:14 PM

Are you in the medical field? So tell me, how would you get rid of hiv infected blood out of someone's system? Or hepititus infected blood? You treat them with therapies to inhibit the infection. Most likely, whoever did this to HRG did it only with the intention of healing him. That being said, we have no way of knowing the lasting effects of adam's blood in nathan, or hrg.

Xanderman

11-21-2007, 12:56 AM

I doubt the blood acts as a mutagen on other people, giving them powers or anything like that. It's basically a cure-all medicine, that's it. Just temporary.

wiserommer

11-21-2007, 01:39 AM

Erm it was clairs blood that healed NOAH....thought that was obvious he doesnt have any powers.

constantine

11-21-2007, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by jazzylg
Are you in the medical field? So tell me, how would you get rid of hiv infected blood out of someone's system? Or hepititus infected blood? You treat them with therapies to inhibit the infection. Most likely, whoever did this to HRG did it only with the intention of healing him. That being said, we have no way of knowing the lasting effects of adam's blood in nathan, or hrg.

er. HIV and AIDs don't rewrite DNA. And I think Adam might have been able to figure a thing or two out after living a few hundred years. Call me silly, but that's my suspicion. Besides. For ill or good, bob wanted claires blood to develop either a cure for the virus, or to mutate it, and we saw a full bag on the IV meaning that if it WAS claire's blood, it was the only sample they had.

However, Adam has already shown that for the right reasons, he'll give up blood, so it's plausible that adam and peter have noah because they need his help. You have to remember, that peter is getting more coherent and remembering more, which means he can teleport, time travel and blow giant holes in people.

superpal1

11-21-2007, 08:27 AM

It was made clear through Petrellis mom that they had used Adams blood to cure people in the past. So does this mean that there are a bunch of immortals now running around becuase of this. No. It just means that his blood can cure you. His DNA was not changed. It like a flu vaccine, you are safe for that year, but the affects wear off, and you need another shot. Im not saying that eventually HRG's eye revert back or Nathan's skin will start to revert back to burned skin, but if they get hurt again, they will need another shot of blood to cure them. Just like you need another flu shot each year.

KryptonzGirl

11-21-2007, 05:51 PM

I highly doubt he will have powers..or Nathan. I'm just glad that he is alive..he added a bit of interest in the Claire story considering Claire herself really didn't.

HRG won't be the same if he develops powers..he is just as good a character without them.

4Clana

11-21-2007, 06:07 PM

I don't think HRG has powers now but maybe as a side effect when he looks in the mirror he'll see a missing eye or messed up side of the face just as Nathan sees a burned face when looking in the mirror. Like some weird version of a phantom limb feeling. Or was Nathan's burned image just due to Maury?

Xanderman

11-21-2007, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by 4Clana
I don't think HRG has powers now but maybe as a side effect when he looks in the mirror he'll see a missing eye or messed up side of the face just as Nathan sees a burned face when looking in the mirror. Like some weird version of a phantom limb feeling. Or was Nathan's burned image just due to Maury? Lol that would be funny, but I don't think they'll do that. Part of the reason they did that with Nathan I think was to build suspense/mystery, providing us clues/hints as to what happened 4 months previously, so viewers could have fun speculating etc. Doing this with HRG wouldn't really serve any purpose, not that I can see.

jazzylg

11-22-2007, 01:35 AM

I know his dna isn't rewritten, if you look at 'real world' practicle medical science.Then again, anything is possible on the show. So you never know. Seeing that 'evolution', according to the writers, can give someone the genetic ability to control space/time, making it a physical impossibilty, in the 'real' world. It's not nearly as implausable or inexplicable to associate injected blood with abilities given the show's diverse display of abilities, that contradict conventional reality.

kazek

11-22-2007, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by superpal1
nathan does not have regenerative powers. Adams blood only cured him, he does not retain the abilities.So H R G does not have powers either.

Exactly. I don't know where the theory that healing blood automatically grants you powers came from.

I think Bob saved Noah probably hoping that Noah would co-operate and give them Claire willingly. My theory is that Bob had seen the painting where HRG gets shot and hence he knew that if he somehow changed his fate, Noah might see things in a different light and probably join their cause. After all Noah would be a useful addition to the team.

Praxis

11-23-2007, 08:18 PM

jazzylg

11-24-2007, 12:11 AM

And a man can absorb powers just by standing next to him..er, anything is possible on this show. throw out conventional wisdom, the rules of physics, medicine,etc. you name it. The only rules on this show, are, they're aren't any rules. Here's one, how can 'the cure', which is an injection, remove the gene that gives powers, and effectively rewrites their dna be possible? So everyone that keeps on harping about it's not possible for noah to have powers, apparently haven't paid attention to everything else. I'll say it one more time: Anything is possible on this show!

Mello Penelo

11-24-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by jazzylg
I'll say it one more time: Anything is possible on this show!

Except what Kring says won't happen! And HRG having abilities isn't one of them. He's gone on record saying "certain people will never have abilities." One is HRG. Another is Mohinder.

Xanderman

11-24-2007, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Except what Kring says won't happen! And HRG having abilities isn't one of them. He's gone on record saying "certain people will never have abilities." One is HRG. Another is Mohinder. I thought Mohinder's power was supposed to be never sleeping, or "sleepless aptitude"...lol j/k. Sythan in Five Years Gone from last season.... "You haven't slept in five years, Mohinder." :lol:

Mohinder has special blood though, right? Why is that again? Can't remember.

STFanatic

11-24-2007, 07:51 AM

What about Mo's "Punching bag" ability? :p

pycer

11-24-2007, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Xanderman

Mohinder has special blood though, right? Why is that again? Can't remember.

In real life, parents of a child with particular diseases can conceive another child and during pregnancy introduce small amounts of the virus to the growing child, allowing the child to become immune to it and generate natural antibodies to combat it. Thats what they did with Mo.

Xanderman

11-24-2007, 06:07 PM

Thanks pycer.:cool:

Originally posted by STFanatic
What about Mo's "Punching bag" ability? :p That's another one, Mo's got a few afterall...heh

And HRG's power is being an acronym. lol

Guess Kring was wrong.... :lol:

jazzylg

11-24-2007, 10:20 PM

I guess Kring's power is the ability to never change his mind!

Xanderman

11-25-2007, 08:19 PM

Kring's explanations/ideas haven't always been good ones so personally I hate it when people quote them in their arguments (instead of simply going by what the show does or shows us). The worst one I've ever heard was Peter and Sylar both using what sounded a heck of a lot like Eden's persuasion voice being actually only for "dramatic purposes". That's the stupidest thing in the world given the nature of this show, the existence of Eden and what a similarly altered voice meant for her, and the fact that both Sylar and Peter are the only two characters capable of having Eden's power and using that voice to begin with. If it were a character other than Sylar/Peter, the "dramatic purposes" pill would be far easier to swallow, but not with them. Horrible explanation, if that really did come from Kring himself.

jazzylg

11-25-2007, 09:48 PM

Yea, I thought the 'dramatic purposes' explanation fell into the ridiculous copout catergory. We know Peter was in proximity of eden, and sylar never got to 'eat' her brain, seeing that she blew it out. I guess we'll never get to she her ability used again, unless it's by the new parkman.

Xanderman

11-28-2007, 12:47 AM

Peter should have the ability (as you said he was around Eden) so he should have stumbled on to it by now, as he has other abilities. It's a plot hole if he doesn't. It seemed he did use it last season, but then Kring said it was just dramatic effect for some inexplicably stupid reason.

And just because Eden shot herself doesn't mean Sylar wasn't still able to get the ability. My theory is the important area in Eden's brain was undamaged, and Sylar got the power. And then there seemed to be proof of that when he used the voice. But then, again, Kring said it was just dramatic effect because he's clueless apparently, he must be to say something so transparently weak.

But yeah, Matt's power progression makes him Eden and so much more. It would be interesting to see Eden face off against Matt if she were still alive...who would win? Who would persuade who? lol