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superhippie2000
11-19-2007, 07:22 AM
So what did you think?
superhippie2000
11-19-2007, 07:23 AM
forgot the poll errrrrrrrr.
last man of krypton
11-19-2007, 09:01 AM
Thought I'd stick the thread for you. :)
superhippie2000
11-19-2007, 06:00 PM
thanks thought i did but forgot lol.
Alexander III
11-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Wut's this episode about?
Sweetie
11-19-2007, 08:04 PM
Loved it :)
STFanatic
11-19-2007, 08:05 PM
DANG!!!
That was pure edge of the seat AWESOME!!!
Can we put a "20" in the poll?
:D
Rosa76
11-19-2007, 08:06 PM
10 I am speechless :p
STFanatic
11-19-2007, 08:06 PM
I can't wait for the commentary tomorrow :eek: Sweet!!!
angeloo
11-19-2007, 08:08 PM
10 of course very good episode
Absolutely incredible. That makes 4 (or is it 5?) awesome eps in a row. Glad to see they've raised the bar a bit from the beginning of the season. Not to say that the first several episodes were terrible, but they just didn't have the same spark that the first season had.
Thought that it was a 10/10. I was so angry when HRG died but the I had an orgasm when he came back. I really didn't see that coming. I really enjoyed the ups and downs of the episode. There were a few things that I would change but I'm glad that things are going faster for Heroes.
Glad that West isn't as whiney, happy that HRG is still around, happy that Elle is doubting daddy, super happy that we found out who killed Hiro's dad. Be interesting to see where they go from here.
Originally posted by STFanatic
I can't wait for the commentary tomorrow :eek: Sweet!!!
looking forward to that too..... :D
Mello Penelo
11-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Pretty danged good. I took off one point for Claire being in the episode. And another for no Peter.
newfan
11-19-2007, 09:09 PM
At first I HATED IT!! But in the end..I LOVED IT! :rotfl: All I can say is..Thank God! I honestly think I lost my mind there for a bit! Any Episode with that much HRG gets a 10!! :cool:
Raissa
11-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by faz
Absolutely incredible. That makes 4 (or is it 5?) awesome eps in a row. Glad to see they've raised the bar a bit from the beginning of the season. Not to say that the first several episodes were terrible, but they just didn't have the same spark that the first season had.
10/10 -- The writers have brains, and the process can't change from one week to the next. Why couldn't all the eps. be this quality. If they'd put the same consistent effort into every ep. from #2.01 on, the pissed off contingent of the fanbase wouldn't have become nearly so pissed off. What gives?
Lexgirl33
11-19-2007, 09:20 PM
THAT. WAS. AMAZING.
trying2b
11-19-2007, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Pretty danged good. I took off one point for Claire being in the episode. And another for no Peter.
Don't tell me, you don't like Claire either............wow!
That was a awesome episode, best of the season! Now Bennett has a power? Matt Parkman's power is very cool. However, I did miss Peter being in the episode.
Lexgirl33
11-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by newfan
At first I HATED IT!! But in the end..I LOVED IT! :rotfl: All I can say is..Thank God! I honestly think I lost my mind there for a bit! Any Episode with that much HRG gets a 10!! :cool:
I was thinking oh no, Alicia is going to freak :lol:
I didnt like HRG that much last year but this year, he is such pure bad@ss. I was shocked when he got shot but then I knew the man couldnt die. Hes to cool :lol:
Mello Penelo
11-19-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by trying2b
Don't tell me, you don't like Claire either............wow!
That was a awesome episode, best of the season! Now Bennett has a power? Matt Parkman's power is very cool. However, I did miss Peter being in the episode.
Oh great. You again.
I liked Claire last year. But now she's gotten too whiny and her plot is a total rehash. We've seen this before. "I wanna be normal!" "I will protect you, Claire!"
And I don't think HRG has a power. He was just cured by Claire's blood. Same thing Adam did to Nathan.
SuperEl
11-19-2007, 11:08 PM
THAT WAS A FREAKIN 10+! IT WAS PERFECT! =D
First thing I wanna say is how I love Hiro's story went in this episode! I was like, "So that's what he was doing!" Ya know, remember when his dad was on the balcony for a long period of time before his death?...yeah! that's freakin awesome! and such a touchy moment too.
Then the Bennet Family. The best part was when Noah was talking to Elle in front of his wife, Sandra, and West. That explains a lot about himself. The way he want to bring the company down and being a family man. I believe Noah is a good guy. All HRG wanted was to protect his daughter, Claire, and not to be an experiment like Bob's daughter, Elle. This episode had its twist on me again! LOL love it!
Then there's the Matt Parkman story. He can persuade people haha that was cool. But is he really becoming just like his father?! I hope not...what about Molly? Speaking of Molly, did she had some other powers too?! She read his mind! Who da heck is Victoria? Can't wait for next week's episode! What a cliffhanger...
Alexander III
11-19-2007, 11:13 PM
LOVE IT!! I actually gave it a 9 and now I'd regret not giving a 10. Hiro's ending scene is AWESOME DUDE!!! Give props to "HRG's getting shot" scene too!!
MidgardDragon
11-19-2007, 11:50 PM
I haven't looked at any of the posts yet because I haven't gotten a chance to see the episode yet, but I did look at the results, and HOLY CRAP! This must be an awesome episode, the majority of 10's is a vast majority compared to the other votes this time around.
Spirit Detective
11-19-2007, 11:59 PM
It is
Like the episode before, this one gives answers to some of this Season's secrets
Xanderman
11-20-2007, 12:34 AM
Another 10, fantastic ep.
HRG dying as per a painting but coming back to life afterward was sort of done already though, last season with Peter. Oh well, glad he gets to live.
I thought West was going to end up being a Company mole but he wasn't, that was a nice surprise. And I was surprised he survived that jolt from Elle, but I guess it wasn't a kill shock, just meant to down him.
So it looks like Elle is going to turn on her father/the Company eventually, HRG told her stuff she never knew about the past and it stuck.
So Mohinder's a villain now, who knew. lol (oh yeah, the painting did :lol: )
Loved the stuff with Matt. He's basically a Jedi now, lol. Or another way of looking at it, Matt is the new Eden. lol
The Hiro stuff is flawed. Just because his father thinks it's wrong to save him doesn't mean he shouldn't. And if he allows the death to happen, is he going to let Adam just walk away? If Hiro doesn't kill Adam after the fall, it will probably be something I will be forever complaining about and reminding people about endlessly until the end of the series...lol
Originally posted by trying2b
Now Bennett has a power? Bennett was healed by Claire's blood. What happened to that 180 IQ? lol
MidgardDragon
11-20-2007, 01:37 AM
Okay, that was fantastic. Another 10/10. That's five in a row for me. I think it was even better then some of the best of Season 1.
Originally posted by SuperEl
Then there's the Matt Parkman story. He can persuade people haha that was cool. But is he really becoming just like his father?! I hope not...what about Molly? Speaking of Molly, did she had some other powers too?! She read his mind! Who da heck is Victoria? Can't wait for next week's episode! What a cliffhanger...
Molly didn't read his mind, he projected the thought into her head, like he discovered he could do in a previous episode. And the fact that she did exactly as he said made him realize that he also had the power of persuasion. That scene with Molly was him developing that side of his power.
CallMeClark
11-20-2007, 04:15 AM
Um WOW!
Phenomenal episode. Definetly my favorite of the entire season.
I love the Noah arcs. This was fantastic. And I really thought he was dead! I couldn't believe it.
Elle is my new favorite villian. She can kick some serious ass. I loved the shot of her hitting the airbourn West and Claire with her lightning bolt.
10/10 no doubt!
Theshadow129x
11-20-2007, 04:55 AM
awesome episode!!!
shadow4486
11-20-2007, 05:43 AM
Awesome!!! with a capital AWE!!!!!! 100/10 is my vote. Heroes at it's finest!
Kryptonian-Ronin
11-20-2007, 06:05 AM
Ah yes...this was a good one !
Two thumbs up and a couple of toes too !
All around great episode with very little flaws if any.
How a series should be.
Wondering how this new person, the Older Lady ( I forget her name) that Matt found out about.
The show had more flying than all the seasons of Smallville !! LOL !
Ah Mohinder...its true what they say, some of the smartest people can be dumber than dog crap at times !
one of the 12
11-20-2007, 06:30 AM
This is the first episode I've posted in this section. The reason is that this has been my favorite show since the series began. I've seen them all at least once and in my opinion this one was the best yet. The story lines, the dialog, the scenes and special effects were all done very well.
Mello Penelo
11-20-2007, 08:47 AM
I think that now Kring knows what we're wanting to see on the show, he's focusing on that to try and salvage what's left of the season.
spicyblark
11-20-2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah, it was pretty good. No disappointment in the Heroes twists department. I was shocked by Mohinder's actions; how could he have done that?!?!?!
Lexgirl33
11-20-2007, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by spicyblark
Yeah, it was pretty good. No disappointment in the Heroes twists department. I was shocked by Mohinder's actions; how could he have done that?!?!?!
My love for Mo is gone now that he has become um a company man
Mello Penelo
11-20-2007, 11:43 AM
The Company is good now that Bob is in charge. HRG is a very, very, very bad man.
Zacho
11-20-2007, 01:47 PM
10. Best episode of season 2. Can't wait for next week.
babyluthor
11-20-2007, 02:21 PM
I've been watching Heroes off and on. I watched this episode last night and I thought it was really good. I'll probably watch the final 2 episodes also.
Cyclops1974
11-20-2007, 03:47 PM
First I thought that this episode was going to be about answers we already knew. But with every minute passing, different answers were given than I expected. So Elle never blew up a house when she was a kid. She was normal but the company experimented on her with her abilities and made the Haitian take all her memory of it away.
Originally posted by Xanderman
...The Hiro stuff is flawed. Just because his father thinks it's wrong to save him doesn't mean he shouldn't. And if he allows the death to happen, is he going to let Adam just walk away? If Hiro doesn't kill Adam after the fall, it will probably be something I will be forever complaining about and reminding people about endlessly until the end of the series...
We basically knew Adam killed Hiro's dad. It kinda makes sense that they're trying to write it as though Hiro shouldn't change the past, cause it's all about destiny and stuff and you never know what's going to happen in the future if you change the past and besides, if he did save his dad, who's stoppin' him from undoing every bad thing that ever happened. Would be boring to watch: "Oh look, he's dying. Oh never mind, Hiro will go back in time and save him."
Doesn't mean I'm curious if Hiro will be tempted to do so. If he doesn't, I'm sure he will try and find Adam in the present and kill him anyway. I wonder though if it will be before or after Peter figures out that Adam is just after the company for revenge.
Originally posted by Xanderman
...HRG dying as per a painting but coming back to life afterward was sort of done already though, last season with Peter. Oh well, glad he gets to live...
That's why it was so freaking awesome. I never expected they'd do it again. Besides we knew that there was a change that Peter didn't die beacuse of the healing power, but this time... WOW!!!
So in the end this episode shows the depth of the serie. Again it shows that it's more than just a real life superhero comic. Most people are grey. Just a few maybe all good or all bad. But everyone else is somewhere in between that black and white. Matt uses his power to get what he wants. The company isn't all bad. HRG isn't all good. Mohinder shooting HRG.
I guess the only real archetype hero and villain still are Peter and Sylar. To bad we probably won't get to see more than 11 episodes. I really enjoyed looking froward to the two of them clashing again.
The_Frag_Man
11-20-2007, 08:38 PM
10/10 There's nothing I didn't like about this episode, it even made West look good.
MidgardDragon
11-20-2007, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Lexgirl33
My love for Mo is gone now that he has become um a company man
If you consider it was probably Mohinder that used Claire's blood to save Noah I don't think we can call him a Company Man just yet. Why is it only on this board (K-Site) that I seem to run into so many people that don't let plotlines play out before they decide they know exactly what is happening?
KryptoKnight
11-20-2007, 10:14 PM
Definitely the best episode this season. I was about to give up on Heroes actually but last episode was a little better and then this came along and completely wowed me.
I can't wait to see who KB gets pi**ed off at - you know it's going to happen. She is going to get scary-sexy-scary and totally annihilate someone
Xanderman
11-21-2007, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Cyclops1974
It kinda makes sense that they're trying to write it as though Hiro shouldn't change the past, cause it's all about destiny and stuff and you never know what's going to happen in the future if you change the past.And yet Future Hiro from last season didn't seem to live by that rule, lol. He went back in time to try and change things, and it eventually did change. New York wasn't destroyed. His past never happened as a result. And his interference could have made things worse, but he tried anyway (granted, it doesn't get much worse than a city blowing up, lol). (Note, the future Peter saw was pretty bleak so things might end up worse afterall.)
"Oh look, he's dying. Oh never mind, Hiro will go back in time and save him."
:lol: Lol right on, but again I point to the actions of Future Hiro from last season. lol
I guess the only real archetype hero and villain still are Peter and Sylar.
Sylar was a bit iffy last season though, especially towards the end. But he definitely seems to be a full fledged evil psycho now. heh
Farview
11-21-2007, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
If you consider it was probably Mohinder that used Claire's blood to save Noah I don't think we can call him a Company Man just yet. Why is it only on this board (K-Site) that I seem to run into so many people that don't let plotlines play out before they decide they know exactly what is happening?
I doubt if it was Mohinder that saved Noah. I think the writers will want to play out Mohinder's guilt trip for several episodes and the Company will use that guilt against him.
HWichita
11-21-2007, 01:34 PM
Best episode in a long time.
Best hero fight(s) since Jessica and D.L. Not long enough but well done.
Jaded Wolf
11-21-2007, 06:49 PM
I finally got to watch this episode after missing it Monday night due to traveling. I watched in online and I was just blown away. I gave it a 10/10! I liked everything about it and have no complaints with it.
Xanderman
11-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Farview
I doubt if it was Mohinder that saved Noah. I think the writers will want to play out Mohinder's guilt trip for several episodes and the Company will use that guilt against him. Agreed, probably not Mohinder. It was probably Bob, acting maybe on Adam's orders. Adam's got plans for HRG, great, great plans...maybe. lol
MidgardDragon
11-22-2007, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Farview
I doubt if it was Mohinder that saved Noah. I think the writers will want to play out Mohinder's guilt trip for several episodes and the Company will use that guilt against him.
He was in a Company like facility, neither Elle nor Bob had any reason to revive him. Seems like simple deduction to me.
STFanatic
11-22-2007, 11:02 PM
They did need to test Claire's blood on someone.
ginnyfan
11-22-2007, 11:30 PM
I loved this episode so so much.
magoo
11-26-2007, 10:47 AM
Fantastic stuff!!!
My only real problem is that West would no way have come out of that fall without a scratch even with Claire under him.
9/10
Matro
11-26-2007, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
He was in a Company like facility, neither Elle nor Bob had any reason to revive him. Seems like simple deduction to me.
How could it possibly be Mohinder? They all rode back in the van together. Bob runs The Company. Mohinder couldn't do it without Bob's approval.
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Why is it only on this board (K-Site) that I seem to run into so many people that don't let plotlines play out before they decide they know exactly what is happening?
It's call theories and speculation. Aren't you doing the same?
InLove_with_Chloe
11-28-2007, 09:31 AM
It was a great epi.
But didn't it feel a little too much like "Company Man, part 2"???
Raissa
11-28-2007, 03:40 PM
It did. Claire's characterization seemed to go backwards.
trying2b
11-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Backwards? I thought that her part was one of the best. I loved the way she stood up to Elle.
Raissa
11-28-2007, 04:20 PM
It went backwards in relation to HRG; the Elle part was cool.
trying2b
11-28-2007, 05:33 PM
What went backwards?
InLove_with_Chloe
11-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Well, she's back to "I love you, daddy!!!"
But I guess that's never gonna change, that might be the message here.....
Raissa
11-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by trying2b
What went backwards?
Their relationship and the plot -- Secrets, Lies, Recriminations, & Consequences. That was last year's story line, new town and supporting cast aside.
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