"I'm not your lab experiment"

[xrayvision]

Grant before being revealed as Julian said something like "I'm not your lab experiment" (don't have the episode on hand for the exact quote).

I wonder if this was purposely thrown in there for irony. Maybe he's not Lex's experiment but Lionel's. Lex did say something about Lionel giving him up for adoption. Maybe he cloned him and gave him away for adoption.

[freefall]

I don't think Lionel has anything to do with this. Why would he even clone Julian and then give that clone away for adoption?

[xrayvision]

I don't know. That's what doesn't make sense to me. Because if Grant is not a Julian clone and really is Julian, then there is a major plothole.

The only thing I can think of was that Lionel gave him away for adoption because he felt the Julian clone would be safer that way. But what again doesn't make sense is how Lionel would had to have made the clone recently. He didn't know how to make one without severe flaws until after Emily Dinsmore.

This is very confusing. Did Lex say something about Julian being 4 years old when he was given up for adoption? I thought he did.

I wonder if Julian is a meteor freak who will end up in 33.1.

Maybe that's what Lex did with the knowledge gained from Evan in Ageless. Maybe that's what he meant by 4 years.

[MozartRequiem]

"Maybe that's what Lex did with the knowledge gained from Evan in Ageless. Maybe that's what he meant by 4 years."

xrayvision, you always think of such awesome ideas. Ever since "Ageless", I've wondered what the heck Lex was going to do with that knowledge, why he wouldn't just cash in on using it as a cure for cancers and age-related diseases like he said he would. Then it hit me: 33.1. I thought he'd be using it in those experiments, and now, xrayvision, your theory for the Grant/Julian clone using this information makes perfect sense.

I'm not sure they'll actually reference the episode or Evan, but it'd be great if they did. It'd show some great continuity, and I must say, "Smallville" has gotten increasingly better at that.

But what about 4 years are you saying, xrayvision? I forget, when did Lex say anything about 4 years?

[ClarkyBoy14]

Grant before being revealed as Julian said something like "I'm not your lab experiment" (don't have the episode on hand for the exact quote).

I wonder if this was purposely thrown in there for irony. Probably, the SV writers love doing that.

--

What if Lionel kept baby Julian's body in hopes that he would one day be able to find a way to resurrect him. That's why he did the Emily Dinsmore clones, as a template for Julias 2.0. And he couldn't stand another Luthor "failure," that's why he

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Grant before being revealed as Julian said something like "I'm not your lab experiment" (don't have the episode on hand for the exact quote).

I wonder if this was purposely thrown in there for irony. Maybe he's not Lex's experiment but Lionel's. Lex did say something about Lionel giving him up for adoption. Maybe he cloned him and gave him away for adoption.

Nice, didn't think of that (I've said it before, you should write for Smallville). I sincerely hope this is the way the story pans out, or else I'm gone.

......
.............

.......ah, who'm I kidding. I'd stay even if they made Lana into a Kryptonian.

......<remembers "Wrath"> waitaminnit...

[ClarkyBoy14]

wouldn't experiment w/ a Julian clone: it had to be the final, most magnificent one.

Lex finds out about this, because Luthors always find out about each other's business, and begins work on his own Julian clone. He could use his father's research to create him (was Clona his own Emily?), and the information he gathered from Evan to make him older (one, so he would be able to be "friends" w/ him; two, so Lionel doesn't recognize him) and we have "Grant Gabriel." He may have even given him artificial

memories so he would believe that Lionel gave him up for adoption and told the world he was dead.

[xrayvision]

^^This is becoming very interesting.


Originally posted by MozartRequiem
"Maybe that's what Lex did with the knowledge gained from Evan in Ageless. Maybe that's what he meant by 4 years."

xrayvision, you always think of such awesome ideas. Ever since "Ageless", I've wondered what the heck Lex was going to do with that knowledge, why he wouldn't just cash in on using it as a cure for cancers and age-related diseases like he said he would. Then it hit me: 33.1. I thought he'd be using it in those experiments, and now, xrayvision, your theory for the Grant/Julian clone using this information makes perfect sense.

I'm not sure they'll actually reference the episode or Evan, but it'd be great if they did. It'd show some great continuity, and I must say, "Smallville" has gotten increasingly better at that.

But what about 4 years are you saying, xrayvision? I forget, when did Lex say anything about 4 years?

Thanks for the kind words. I thought he said 4 years ago or 4 years old. But I could be wrong.

[MozartRequiem]

"Thanks for the kind words. I thought he said 4 years ago or 4 years old. But I could be wrong."

You're very welcome, xrayvision. :)
Oh, so you're saying that Lex said in this episode something like, "Four years ago..." yada, yada...hmmm...I'll be rewatching it tomorrow and I'll see. That'd be interesting.

I also found it intriguing how he said, "Without me, you'd be nothing." Anyone else think that's an indicator of him being a clone? Of course the other interpretation, the less literal one, is "without me, you'd be nothing, because you'd still be on the streets". That's what's so great about SV writers at their best. They write with double-meaning, leaving us to form our own interpretations for a while. That was terrifically scripted.

[ClarkyBoy14]

At first, I wasn't a big fan of Grant possibly being a clone of Julian, but now it's starting to just make sense.

I think you're right, MozartRequiem. That was probably a line the audience was meant to take one way, but really meant something else. Just like the lab experiment one.

[xrayvision]

I'm pretty damn sure the information that Lex got from Evan's disease is what allowed him to perfect Lionel's cloning process. He probably got the knowledge of how to clone someone with just the effects of accelerating their growth without giving them abilities. I think that's how he cloned Lana and that's how he made Grant. It would be nice to get something useful out of one of the worst episodes of Smallville (Ageless) after all this time.

Scratch that 4 year thing. He didn't say anything about it. He told Julian that Lionel gave him away as an infant.

The only explanation I could think of regarding Julian's birthday not meeting Grant's (the clone Julian's birthday) is if Lex changed the records like he was going to do with Roger Nixon. But wouldn't Lionel know?

I do think Grant is a clone and Lex used what he learned from Evan to age him. But based on the line that this thread is all about ("I'm not a rat in one of your labs"), it could mean that Grant doesn't know he's a clone. Or maybe he does know and used that line stressing the word rat; i.e. he's not a rat, but a human...Lex's brother nonetheless. But if he knows he's a clone, then why would Lex lie to him about Lionel giving him up? Lex wasn't speaking as if Lionel giving Julian up was just a story told to the public. Grant/Julian believed it.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm pretty sure Grant/Julian 2.0 doesn't know. At least not yet.

I could imagine a scene in the next episode or two where GG storms into Lex's office and says something like, "I just checked public records. According to them, I should be 15 right now. But here I am, a decade older than I'm supposed to be. What the hell is going on?"
And then Lex either makes something up, or tells him the truth.

[xrayvision]

^^That would be pretty cool. Maybe Lois will do some background checking on him since they're still together and find out. Or maybe he'll start trusting her more than Lex and ask her to find out the truth about himself.

[litew8]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I'm pretty damn sure the information that Lex got from Evan's disease is what allowed him to perfect Lionel's cloning process. He probably got the knowledge of how to clone someone with just the effects of accelerating their growth without giving them abilities. I think that's how he cloned Lana and that's how he made Grant. It would be nice to get something useful out of one of the worst episodes of Smallville (Ageless) after all this time. I have no issues with Grant being cloned (other than I really don't care for the plot), but if what you suggest is in fact what happened - how does it make sense that Lex said that the Lana clone Lana blew up wasn't alive? To add, how could Grant be cloned to have the knowledge to become an Editor of a very large newspaper co.?

[xrayvision]

^^As for Lana, if Lex told the truth, then maybe he created the clone to not have a brain (though I'm sure many would say that's true of the real Lana, :)).

As for Grant being cloned to have knowledge to become an editor, I would blame that on faulty writing, just like Evan was able to read and speak as he aged when nobody taught him.

[litew8]

^
Lex actually said he created a Lana clone with no brain?
Are you serious?

[xrayvision]

Lex did not say this, but this is one way of creating a lifeless clone. This is a real life issue that people have against cloning. One of the ethical issues against cloning is that people will start cloning lifeless bodies that would be cut up and used for spare parts and how this would be an abonimation. Lex probably cloned her for this reason. He knew from Lexmas that Lana would die after having her 2nd child and probably wanted to prevent it by having a clone ready with identical parts if anything were to happen to her.

[litew8]

^
Bah. Not buying that reasoning. I still think a Lana clone is alive.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think that's it. Lex told Lana in "Fierce" something along the lines of, "Everything I've done is because I love you," and I believe him.

[litew8]

^
You think what is it?

[ClarkyBoy14]

Um, I think you're asking what I think it is? I think it's what xrayvision said.

[litew8]

^
Yes. You said "I think that's it."
Translated: "I think that is it."

I asked - You think what is it?
You now say - you think xrayvision's comments are "it".
- Answered.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Lex probably cloned her for this reason. He knew from Lexmas that Lana would die after having her 2nd child and probably wanted to prevent it by having a clone ready with identical parts if anything were to happen to her.

you obviously didnt watch lexmas carefully

lex was living a life of poverty the only reason lana died in lexmas was due to lex not having the money to get lana transported to a metropolis hospital, the smallville docs told lex this that she needed specialist help, why do you think he went to lionel he wanted lionels help with money

thats why lex chose to be rich at the end of lexmas he wanted to save lana using money-power

so this lana clone has nothing to do with lexmas

[litew8]

^
I agree, Lana clone doesn't have anything to Lexmas.

But I dissagree with your assessment that "Lex wanted to become rich at the end to save Lana using money-power" Near the end of Lexmas, after Lex woke up in the hospital after having the vivid dream, he came to realize the road through happiness is through control/power/money - for HIMSELF. With those elements, a person could have and secure everything desired. Those are the things he mentioned to the black guy he hired to do whatever it takes to ensure Lex won the Senate seat. The black guy said "consider it done" and managed to find photographic evidence of Johnathan's son (Clark) saving someone (Lana) from the warehouse that was on fire. Lionel ambushed the black guy in the telephone booth and aquired the evidence and then killed the black guy. From there on out - Lionel knew for certain of Clark's secret.

Lex's thoughts after his dream were never directly related towards Lana. It was simply a representation of the things he would have if he had a normal, simple life. I'm sure the mere fact that Lana was his wife in his dream - only went to boost his objective of taking the one thing Clark cherished the most.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
^
I agree, Lana clone doesn't have anything to Lexmas.

But I dissagree with your assessment that "Lex wanted to become rich at the end to save Lana using money-power" Near the end of Lexmas, after Lex woke up in the hospital after having the vivid dream, he came to realize the road through happiness is through control/power/money - for HIMSELF. With those elements, a person could have and secure everything desired. Those are the things he mentioned to the black guy he hired to do whatever it takes to ensure Lex won the Senate seat. The black guy said "consider it done" and managed to find photographic evidence of Johnathan's son (Clark) saving someone (Lana) from the warehouse that was on fire. Lionel ambushed the black guy in the telephone booth and aquired the photo of Clark and then killed the black guy. From there on out - Lionel knew for certain of Clark's secret.

Lex's thoughts after his dream were never directly related towards Lana. It was simply a representation of the things he would have if he had a normal, simple life. I'm sure the mere fact that Lana was his wife in his dream - only went to boost his objective of taking the one thing Clark cherished the most.

yes i know it was a dream what i meant was that lex chose money-power as it was a means of providing him with the happiness he dreamt of, it was also a way for lex to realise within his own mind that he could have anything he wanted so long as he had money

before lexmas lex was never comfortable living as a billionaire he wanted a life without money, love and happiness (you just need to watch lex with the kents to know this) which is why he had the dream in lexmas and because of what happened he wanted money and the dream to become a reality even though he knew that his choice to embrace his wealth would come at a risk (falling deeper into his own darkness)

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
you obviously didnt watch lexmas carefully

lex was living a life of poverty the only reason lana died in lexmas was due to lex not having the money to get lana transported to a metropolis hospital, the smallville docs told lex this that she needed specialist help, why do you think he went to lionel he wanted lionels help with money

thats why lex chose to be rich at the end of lexmas he wanted to save lana using money-power

so this lana clone has nothing to do with lexmas

I did watch it carefully. I know Lex wanted to save Lana with money, but the reason he wanted money was far from only Lana. He wants it to make himself happy so he can get & secure everything he wants in life.

The reason why I mentioned Lexmas was because even though he tried to get Lana to the Metropolis hospital in the alternare universe dream, when he woke up, he didn't know and wasn't 100% sure that the hospital would have what's necessary to save her. So by making an identical clone, there would be no way they couldn't save her life. Meaning that the money & power he wanted (as he said "I want it all") in Lexmas was used for the research to make the clone and secure Lana's life. Lex wasn't going to take any chances. This is the logical conclusion I came to for the reason Lex cloned Lana.


Originally posted by litew8
^
I agree, Lana clone doesn't have anything to Lexmas.

But I dissagree with your assessment that "Lex wanted to become rich at the end to save Lana using money-power" Near the end of Lexmas, after Lex woke up in the hospital after having the vivid dream, he came to realize the road through happiness is through control/power/money - for HIMSELF. With those elements, a person could have and secure everything desired. Those are the things he mentioned to the black guy he hired to do whatever it takes to ensure Lex won the Senate seat. The black guy said "consider it done" and managed to find photographic evidence of Johnathan's son (Clark) saving someone (Lana) from the warehouse that was on fire. Lionel ambushed the black guy in the telephone booth and aquired the photo of Clark and then killed the black guy. From there on out - Lionel knew for certain of Clark's secret.

The black guy's name was Griff. I agree how you said he wanted money & power for himself. The senate seat had nothing to do with saving Lana. Lex could have saved her with the money he already has & without being in a political office. But what you were incorrect in is the evidence Griff had that he sold to Lionel in Fanatic. We don't know what the photo was of. It wasn't a photo of the warehouse explosion because that did not even happen until Lockdown, the next episode.


Originally posted by litew8
Lex's thoughts after his dream were never directly related towards Lana. It was simply a representation of the things he would have if he had a normal, simple life. I'm sure the mere fact that Lana was his wife in his dream - only went to boost his objective of taking the one thing Clark cherished the most.

Well, I don't think Clark cherished Lana the most. I think he cared more for his family and saving the world than Lana. I think that may be Lex's perception though. But as for what you said about Lex, I agree.


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
before lexmas lex was never comfortable living as a billionaire he wanted a life without money, love and happiness (you just need to watch lex with the kents to know this) which is why he had the dream in lexmas and because of what happened he wanted money and the dream to become a reality even though he knew that his choice to embrace his wealth would come at a risk (falling deeper into his own darkness)

I think in earlier seasons, Lex was uncomfortable living life as a billionaire. But I think he's always been conflicted in that manner. In Prodigal, he lost everything he had and was able to live with the Kents. And he went right back to taking his company, turning his back on the simple life he could have kept.

I think he was conflicted on what he wanted until the ending of Lexmas. As the seasons progressed from seasons 1 & 2 to 3, we saw Lex accept his life as a billionaire more & more. Then in season 4, he took a much bigger step and acquired Luthorcorp, something he could have rejected or split up amongst various shareholders so that no one shareholder had an overwhelming amount of shares. We know he started the 33.1 project and used his money to search for the stones at any cost. In season 5, he went further into accepting his billionaire status by using his money to research an alien ship and start funding an election. But until Lexmas, he always had a degree of uncertainty as to what type of life he wanted to live. After Lexmas, his mind was made up.

And remember, the dream in Lexmas was not of his own will. He wasn't in control of it. It was presented to him by his mother to try to get him to change the course towards his destiny. She presented him with an alternate universe in which he had a simple life like the Kents (an option he still hadn't ruled out 100% at that time) to show him what his life could be like.

And something tells me depending on how this Grant/Julian thing works out, that we may be seeing her one more time.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Lockdown. Clark saved Lana from an explosion or something.

[All about Clark]

I actually believe Lex created clone Lana because he knew that in time she would see the real him and leave him. This was his way of keeping her even though she left him.

As for Grant's statement, you know how badly Lex would have liked to admit that Grant was his lab experiment. Like in pride, but he couldn't risk losing the illusion.

[closetclana]

back on topic....

While I think this idea of a Grant clone is interesting - I just don't see it happening. When have SV writers every produced a plot arc that had that much continuity to past episodes and seasons?

Potholes have always been a part of SV writing and this Grant thing is another example.

When Grant said that quote to Lex he was just pointing out that he, Grant, should be treated with respect - not as a "project."

[All about Clark]

Al/Miles were very proud of Memoria, so I doubt very much they are going against their own episode.

And I do believe that Grant is Lex's experiment, whether he was like Wes, manipulated or like Lana, a clone. But I have to go with like Wes because Lex never made the Lana clone alive. Lex was more successful with eliminating Wes' memories. Not to mention Lex was always interested in the work than Summerholt did also fits into memories and replacing them with new memories.

[xrayvision]

If Grant is a Julian clone, then Lex would had to have implanted a false life (memories) in his brain much like Kevin Grady's father who worked in Summerholt did to him in Blank. That would explain why he wouldn't suspect anything about why he has no memories from before he was "created".

It may also explain why he doesn't suspect anything about his age or birthday.

[KryptoniteJem]

If Grant is a Julian clone ... how the hell did Lex get the DNA? Because the remains would've been just bones ... and I don't think that's good enough DNA to produce a clone.
And I don't think Lionel would clone him just to give him away for adopition ... that would be stupid point. Mr.Densmore cloned Emily so he can have her BACK in his life again .... so the theory to give the clone away for adoption sounds a lil far-fetched.

But it Grant is the real Julian then who the hell did Lillian kill? Lol.

[xrayvision]

The adoption thing must be a lie. There could be a blood sample of his from hospital tests that they could have kept as a source for DNA. They never explained the DNA source for Emily.

Grant is either:

1. A clone

2. Someone else whose identity was erased and told to be Julian

3. The real Julian (who was revived) and later aged to be older using some krypto-aging method Lex learned from studying Evan (the least credible since a person deprived of air that long could never be revived)

[All about Clark]

The clone idea seems to be pretty weak IMO. First off, Lex couldn't create a living Lana clone and he had a real Lana to work with. Julian died when Lex was 11 or 12 and neither Lex nor Lionel would have saved a DNA sample at that point in time. And lastly, I would prefer that Lex does not have this capability.

The erasing of identity and implanting a new one has worked in the past and Summerholt's technology has been a strong presense throughout the series. Not to mention if Julian is really here to kill Lionel, then Lex wouldn't frame a Julian copy as much as he would a false Julian, if you know what I mean.

[xrayvision]

I don't think Lex created a live Lana clone because he didn't want to, not because he couldn't. Lionel could obviously create a live clone, though it had all sorts of flaws. Lex has all that data. Lex also has something that Lionel didn't have and that's data from Evan (from Ageless). Evan's disease was about rapid aging, the very thing Lex would need to age Grant as a Julian clone (if this is what he did). Lex obviously found something that made him not want to release the data. It's logical that he knew the applications of what he learned back then and that's why he withheld the data & didn't release it like he promised.

I think if Grant is Julian that he is a clone of Julian and a clone that has had a bogus lifetime's worth of memories implanted into his brain at Summerholt (like Kevin Grady's father was doing in Blank).

[All about Clark]

"Because he didn't want to", so what has ever stopped Lex before from doing such things, what he did to Wes without even batting an eye, not to mention that clone Lana was with all the other Wes type victims waiting for the alien DNA or peptides or whatever that was to bring them to life.

And Emily Dinsmore was a mistake according to Lionel, I doubt very much that technology went anywhere. The show never even had Lex interested in retrieving that data. Again, I always feel you add your own personal stuff to what we view and call it fact and it simply is not a fact that Lex got ahold of any of Lionel's research regarding Emily. With Evan you have a case, but Evan had nothing to do with cloning or being superpowered. Even though TPTB could go either route, I just don't see the clone issue as being the strong choice and their isn't anything yet that would support that idea.

[xrayvision]

Well, I'm theorizing here, so I'm basically using likely possibilities based on logic. We know that Lex got hold of Luthorcorp as of season 4. Lex also knew Lionel was cloning people and Lex gave agent Loder evidence of that. I would think Lex would have obtained information from Lionel's test runs on Emily. If not, he would probably have started doing research into cloning himself. It's easier to clone someone and not have to explain their disappearance as was the case with Wes' wife going after him because she couldn't find Wes.

He could easily apply what he learned from Evan to properly grow & age a clone to his desired level if he figured out the "on & off switches" to rapid aging after studying Evan. Evidence of this is the Lana clone. I'm not saying this is what happened, but I am saying that given this possibility, it's likely that if Grant has Julian's DNA, that he is a clone of Julian. I don't think it's impossible for him to create a living clone without flaws.

Perhaps just like Lex was going to alter Roger Nixon's identity in X-Ray, he altered several facts about Julian's birthday and life and didn't give these to Grant. Something like this would have to happen regardless if Grant is a Julian clone or if he's a stranger who was convinced by Lex to be Julian. Because Grant is between 5-10 years older than what Julian should be had he lived.

I'm guessing that Lex doesn't want Lionel discovering that Lex either cloned Julian or tricked a stranger into believing he's Julian because Lionel would expose him. And I'm thinking that Lionel will somehow realize that Julian's life history was changed and this will tip him off that Lex is up to something.

[litew8]

Originally posted by All about Clark
And Emily Dinsmore was a mistake according to Lionel, I doubt very much that technology went anywhere. The show never even had Lex interested in retrieving that data.That isn't true All about Clark. Lex approached Emily Dinsmore's father in S2 and suggested that he (Lex) take her under his wing. Later on, under Lex's watch, Emily escaped (again) and persued Lana, almost killing her. Lex retrieved Emily, and supposedly she escaped Bel Reeve by merely walking through the wall. Lex supposedly didn't know that she was capable of such things - which is basically what he told Lionel. Lionel told him that he should have been more careful.

So my points are -

- Lex took Emily (and the project) away from Lionel.
- Along with the Emily clone, her father (the scientist).
- Along with her father (the scientist), all data regarding the project.
- Lex had/has everything needed for proper (successful) cloning.
- Evan's rapid aging secret was just an enhancement to the project.

This is why I do not believe that the Lana clone was un-successful, and that she's still in play.

[xrayvision]

Well, don't forget that Emily's father (the scientist who created the Emily clone) was killed in Forsaken by Emily. But Forsaken was the episode where Lionel was arrested by the FBI so he really had no time to destroy all the evidence & data he acquired.

Lex obviously knew how to clone since he created the Lana clone. Even though it was lifeless, it doesn't mean Lex didn't have the ability to make it alive. I think he chose not to. We have yet to find out why he even created it. It could have been for spare parts in case the real Lana ever had health problems. I think it was Lex's way of not taking any chances after he found out what could happen to her from Lexmas. Lex is the type to do everything in his power & go overboard to do stuff like that.

I think the Lana clone could have been a test run for cloning Julian. If he cloned Julian and aged him, it would accomplish a few things:

1. Lionel wouldn't recognize an adult Julian since he died as an infant

2. He would be old enough for Lex to interact with in a productive way that would help not only his business but also give him a friend to relate to and a brother to love.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Lex obviously knew how to clone since he created the Lana clone. Even though it was lifeless, it doesn't mean Lex didn't have the ability to make it alive. I think he chose not to. We have yet to find out why he even created it. It could have been for spare parts in case the real Lana ever had health problems.

I really don't believe Lex had the capability to make the clone alive without the alien peptides or DNA, that was clearly in the show. Not to say he couldn't have acquired that knowledge since Bizarro. And I agree with the Lana clone could have been about spare parts, but let's not forget we are talking about Lex here, if he has a capability to do something, he is going to DO IT. Restraint and Lex are just to things that don't work together.


Originally posted by litew8
Lex retrieved Emily, and supposedly she escaped Bel Reeve by merely walking through the wall.

No this is isn't true. Lex never had Emily or he would have provided her in Lionel's trial.

Clark got Emily to Belle Reve and was later missing and had been taken by Lionel. Neither Lex nor Clark knew where Lionel took her or if she was even alive after that.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by All about Clark
I really don't believe Lex had the capability to make the clone alive without the alien peptides or DNA, that was clearly in the show. Not to say he couldn't have acquired that knowledge since Bizarro. And I agree with the Lana clone could have been about spare parts, but let's not forget we are talking about Lex here, if he has a capability to do something, he is going to DO IT. Restraint and Lex are just to things that don't work together.

I think the reason the Lana clone wasn't alive was because Lex didn't want a Lana clone walking around when the real Lana was still alive. That would be illegal for him to do and he would go to jail.

Between knowing the key to Evan's rapid aging and knowledge of normal cloning techniques used (the type that are banned for human cloning in the US), I think Lex should easily be able to clone a living being and then age them to the age he desires them to be.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think the reason the Lana clone wasn't alive was because Lex didn't want a Lana clone walking around when the real Lana was still alive. That would be illegal for him to do and he would go to jail.

Between knowing the key to Evan's rapid aging and knowledge of normal cloning techniques used (the type that are banned for human cloning in the US), I think Lex should easily be able to clone a living being and then age them to the age he desires them to be.

yourself and a few other people keep missing the extra detail about "ageless" is that the side effect of the rapid aging is that evan needed a bone marrow transplant from a living donor i.e evans parents. to stop the rapid aging to live a normal life

so for julian to be alive at his age he would have needed lionels bone marrow

and the same goes for the lana clone lex would have needed henry small to donate his bone marrow

as good as lex is at achieving his goals even lex cant fight these parts of science

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think the reason the Lana clone wasn't alive was because Lex didn't want a Lana clone walking around when the real Lana was still alive. That would be illegal for him to do and he would go to jail.

Well I don't agree. Just as Lionel hid away Emily, I think that Lex would have hid away a clone Lana if he had the power to bring her to life. Like having your cake and eating it too.

It seems we will never agree, so I guess we'll have to wait to see what TPTB decide to do.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think the reason the Lana clone wasn't alive was because Lex didn't want a Lana clone walking around when the real Lana was still alive. That would be illegal for him to do and he would go to jail.

Between knowing the key to Evan's rapid aging and knowledge of normal cloning techniques used (the type that are banned for human cloning in the US), I think Lex should easily be able to clone a living being and then age them to the age he desires them to be.

The only reason that the Lana clone wasn't alive was that TPTB couldn't allow Lana to kill a live clone. So they had to make the clone not alive. This is explainable in the SV universe to just say that Lex was keeping the clone to "enliven" someday, if he ever needed to. Remember, Lex thought that Lana was still in love with him right up until Phantom, and he had already created the clone. He was just making sure that if Lana ever died, he would have a backup Lana ready to live. While this sounds pretty sick to me, it does tie together nicely with Lexmas, and other storylines...