something is really wrong here

[KANE POUND $QUAD]

let me get this straight
1) julian was born when lex was around 11-12 years old
2) lex met clark for the 1st time when he was 9 and clark 3
3) clark would have to be 6 years older than julian
4)lois is supposedly a year or two older than clark
5)why on earth is julian/gabriel running the daily planet at this age


to sum it up at the current season
lex is 27-28 years old
lois is 22-23 years old
clark is 21-22 years old
and julian/gabriel is 15-16 years
i'm really bothered by these inconsistencies and i will accepted any criticism to shed a few light on this matter.

[imafan411]

yeah sorry, I'm just as confused as you are...:confused:

[paolinki25]

Makes no sense. If he's not a clone, the story is complete crap.

[thehenry89]

I'm right there with you. he has to be a clone.

[TWLOVER03]

what happened to Lucas Luthor> Ahh Maybe Grant/Julian is really Lucas?? Yeah, and maybe Shelby is Pete..

[legolazzz04]

you can blame the writers strike for this

[Krypton935]

That is insane and completly wrong but it was stil really exciting!

[erikamichelle614]

If you don't think too much about it, its a cool story. lol

[Khyla]

I thought we were gonna find out Julian was cloned by Lex. That story Lex gave didn't make any sense if it's the same Julian his Mom suffocated in his crib.

[KryptonStones]

DARN YOU AND YOUR LOGIC!!!! Seriously though, I was so shocked that the age difference really didn't capture my attention...YET ANOTHER PLOT HOLE TPTB WILL POSSIBLY FIX...WITH ANOTHER ONE.....Geez man this season has been filled with so many plot holes it's like an entirely different series. I mean, I can only ignore the impractical for the sake of entertainment for so long before it starts insulting my intelligence

[Khyla]

Maybe...... he really was cloned by Lex but Lex made up the story for Julian's sake so he wouldn't think he was a freak. :\


Originally posted by KryptonStones
I mean, I can only ignore the impractical for the sake of entertainment for so long before it starts insulting my intelligence

:lol: yeah i know what ya mean. I just keep telli myself I have to look at each epi as being a self contained stroy without any connection to any other epi. :\

[KryptonStones]

....God no more clone sub-plots...........NO MORE............and sadly they probably will say it's a clone too...because they have once again managed to WRITE themselves into a hole...who the HELL wrote this episode? WHO!????

[redeem147]

Smallville is essentially a soap opera (with superpowers). Simply, Julian was infected with soap opera aging disease. This affliction often causes one sibling to age quicker than another.

It's a medical fact!

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by legolazzz04
you can blame the writers strike for this

Don't blame it on that. This episode was written back in August.


Originally posted by redeem147
Smallville is essentially a soap opera (with superpowers). Simply, Julian was infected with soap opera aging disease. This affliction often causes one sibling to age quicker than another.

It's a medical fact!

And everyone magically comes back from the dead.

[krpto]

ALL I can say is I hope this is explained in episode 14 or 15 this year or some time early into season 8 since season 7 is cut short.

[redeem147]

And everyone magically comes back from the dead.

Yes.

As Whoopie Golberg said in Soapdish - how can I write for a character without a head?

[Guidron]

meh. I try not to think about it too much. Helps keep it a better storyline to me.

[Nospam]

As someone else pointed out in another thread, Lois is committing statutory rape if Grant is 15 years old. :eek:

This twist is just giving me a headache. :\

[paolinki25]

Well, I guess that would explain how a kid who looks like 15 is a big shot, DP editor. :lol:

[smallvilleluver13]

Maybe Al/Miles think no one would notice...

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think people may be making a bigger deal out of this than it is...


Originally posted by KryptonStones
YET ANOTHER PLOT HOLE TPTB WILL POSSIBLY FIX...WITH ANOTHER ONE.....Geez man this season has been filled with so many plot holes it's like an entirely different series. I mean, I can only ignore the impractical for the sake of entertainment for so long before it starts insulting my intelligence Unless this turns out to be a plothole, there has not been one plothole this season. Sorry.

[rconner]

Originally posted by KANE POUND $QUAD
let me get this straight
1) julian was born when lex was around 11-12 years old
2) lex met clark for the 1st time when he was 9 and clark 3
3) clark would have to be 6 years older than julian
4)lois is supposedly a year or two older than clark
5)why on earth is julian/gabriel running the daily planet at this age


to sum it up at the current season
lex is 27-28 years old
lois is 22-23 years old
clark is 21-22 years old
and julian/gabriel is 15-16 years
i'm really bothered by these inconsistencies and i will accepted any criticism to shed a few light on this matter.

maybe the writers had the inpending strike in mind or failed arithmetic. I think Lex has gone clone happy. :p

Confused too... Didn't Julian get smothered to death in his crib by his mother? It has to be a clone?

[superhippie2000]

my guess is that julian was affected by lillian luthors kryptonite infected breast milk which made baby julian age 2 times faster then average kids. he is really 15 but aged to the age of 30.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by smallvilleluver13
Maybe Al/Miles think no one would notice...

You know that's the case.


Originally posted by superhippie2000
my guess is that julian was affected by lillian luthors kryptonite infected breast milk which made baby julian age 2 times faster then average kids. he is really 15 but aged to the age of 30.

WTF... Lillian Luthor had no meteor contact.

[smlvilleluva]

bringing julian "back" is (again!!!!) a disappointment by TPTB. no matter what explanation they try to give, i'm not buying it (especially the clone idea).

[chantal]

Originally posted by Nospam
As someone else pointed out in another thread, Lois is committing statutory rape if Grant is 15 years old. :eek:

This twist is just giving me a headache. :\

Since Julian was born in 1992 he could even be 14! Maybe that's the real reason Lex doesn't want Grant dating Lois!

Since Julian's birth date is a matter of public record, what is the point of creating a clone who is too old to possibly be the real Julian?

I thought it was possible that Lex is just lying to Grant, but Grant could look Julian up in old issues of the DP. Then he would know he couldn't possible be Julian. Unless he believes he's 14 or 15.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by smlvilleluva
bringing julian "back" is (again!!!!) a disappointment by TPTB. no matter what explanation they try to give, i'm not buying it (especially the clone idea).
We're all trying to put logic into the Smallville mythos. It will just give everyone a migrane if we keep trying to validate this new story development. Odds are it will be explained to us all in good time or we'll just have to chalk it up to bad arithmatic.

[Vergon6]

They could try to saying that Lex's memories of Memoria were false memories. Memory is at the best of times, a reconstructive process.

But I also considered the possibility that somehow that Lex was not really as old as he was when Julian 'died'. Meaning that Julian was actually born earlier than we have been led to believe in the past. But yeah I know it makes no sense.

It is an interesting unexpected plot twist though.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by krpto
ALL I can say is I hope this is explained in episode 14 or 15 this year or some time early into season 8 since season 7 is cut short.

You mean the way they explained Chloe's shifting back story?

*shakes head*

[joel_welling93]

Its either bad writing, or some sort of a cliff-hanger thingy..... When he said that their brother's I was like 'well you better not be Julian!'... But apparently it is Julian Luthor.... Oh well let's see how it goes....

[Iluvgreen]

I was actually thinking the same thing last night. Jullian would still be a tennager. Unless it's some weird speeding up age like Emily. That's the only thing I could come up with.

When he first said he was lex's brother I thought "Lucus" but then jullian... I won't believe it for three seconds.

I prolly isn't him. Maybe Lex did this weird mind control thing so that he thinks he is Jullian? I don't even know.

[Poweranimals]

Originally posted by KANE POUND $QUAD
let me get this straight
1) julian was born when lex was around 11-12 years old
2) lex met clark for the 1st time when he was 9 and clark 3
3) clark would have to be 6 years older than julian
4)lois is supposedly a year or two older than clark
5)why on earth is julian/gabriel running the daily planet at this age


to sum it up at the current season
lex is 27-28 years old
lois is 22-23 years old
clark is 21-22 years old
and julian/gabriel is 15-16 years
i'm really bothered by these inconsistencies and i will accepted any criticism to shed a few light on this matter. That's all assumed though. We don't really know how old Lex or Clark was during any of those incidents. It's all guessing.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by Poweranimals
That's all assumed though. We don't really know how old Lex or Clark was during any of those incidents. It's all guessing.

There's no guessing. We know Lex was 9 when the first meteor shower struck in 1989, meaning he was born in 1980. We don't know for a fact how old Clark really was. But everyone guessed 3.

Julian was born in 1992. We know this because Lillian's pregnancy made her too tired to come to Lex's birthday party. And there's no guessing as to Lex's age at the time. In "Memoria," Lex outright says he was 12.

We don't know exactly how old Clark was when he was found. (I don't think. The effects of Kryptonian space travel is very confusing.) But, officially, he was three. So, when Julian was born, Clark was officially 6. And we can assume that, physically, he looked 6. (Or possibly older.) Meaning that, officially, Julian is 6 years younger than Clark.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
There's no guessing. We know Lex was 9 when the first meteor shower struck in 1989, meaning he was born in 1980. We don't know for a fact how old Clark really was. But everyone guessed 3.

Julian was born in 1992. We know this because Lillian's pregnancy made her too tired to come to Lex's birthday party. And there's no guessing as to Lex's age at the time. In "Memoria," Lex outright says he was 12.

We don't know exactly how old Clark was when he was found. (I don't think. The effects of Kryptonian space travel is very confusing.) But, officially, he was three. So, when Julian was born, Clark was officially 6. And we can assume that, physically, he looked 6. (Or possibly older.) Meaning that, officially, Julian is 6 years younger than Clark.

How dare anyone bring logic and continuity into Smallville, you all will be spanked for being naughty !

[svtwamedfan05]

None of it makes any sense so I'm not going to get all worked up over it. Unless Grant/Julian is an extremely intelligent person and he graduted from school early but I highly doubt that the ages are ever right. Remember how many ages Smallville told us that Chloe's mom left her family. I don't think anyone can get their story straight anymore.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
How dare anyone bring logic and continuity into Smallville, you all will be spanked for being naughty !

:rotfl:

And, actually, I think I'm wrong. We do have a pretty good idea how old Clark actually is. Lara and Kara came to Earth in 1986. Lara is pregnant at the time. So Clark was born in 1986 or 1987. Which means that, when the Kents found him, he was either 2 (and big for his age, which would make sense in Clark's case given how he looked at 15), or 3. So, at the very least, Clark really is 5 years older than Julian would be.

Also, the show has played with many things (like how old Chloe was when her mother left, and when exactly people's birthdays actually are). But it's hard to fudge with ages when they keep giving us actual dates.

[flying_girl]

well chloe's mother messed with her mind when she left so that might explain the age problem. but sv spent a full episode dedicated to how julian died and a few others talking about it and all of those episodes agreed with each other. i think lex is playing with grant. hes not a clone and hes not julian. even though hes a reporter he's to stupid to check out his facts and realize that there is no way he can be julian. they would have been smarter to pretend hes lucus. grant would have no way of knowing that he cant possibly be lucus

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
:rotfl:

And, actually, I think I'm wrong. We do have a pretty good idea how old Clark actually is. Lara and Kara came to Earth in 1986. Lara is pregnant at the time. So Clark was born in 1986 or 1987. Which means that, when the Kents found him, he was either 2 (and big for his age, which would make sense in Clark's case given how he looked at 15), or 3. So, at the very least, Clark really is 5 years older than Julian would be.

Also, the show has played with many things (like how old Chloe was when her mother left, and when exactly people's birthdays actually are). But it's hard to fudge with ages when they keep giving us actual dates.

Alright, now you are really gonna get spanked !
;)

[MozartRequiem]

As far as Grant/Julian, I think Lex made a clone, and had the ability to make him whatever age he wanted, so he aged him to be older than the regular Julian WOULD be, thus to not arise suspicion from anybody on his true identity.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by legolazzz04
you can blame the writers strike for this

Damn... you just reminded me that people get paid for this. Furthermore, there's someone out there who wants more money for this drivel. :mad:

[Tacitus]

We still don't know the full story with Julian. There's no reason to jump to conclusions.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
Damn... you just reminded me that people get paid for this. Furthermore, there's someone out there who wants more money for this drivel. :mad:

As someone else pointed out, the writers don't actually come up with the over-arching plot. If each individual writer put there own individual ideas into the scripts, it would be chaos I tell ya! Chaos!

It's the showrunners who decide what will actually happen. Writers can give them ideas, but the showrunners make the actual decisions on whether they'll do something or not.

A former SV writer (Doris Eagen, if I recall) did a blog post in which she outlined what her idea for the series was. I warn you not to read it. You might weep over the fact that things didn't happen the way she wanted them to.

[HalJordan4184]

Sadly, Doris' storylines, and ideas, were far superior to anything Smallville has ever even tried. In a way, I'm glad she's off the show, as I wouldn't want her associated with the debacle Smallville has become. She's moved onto better, and higher rated things.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by Tacitus
We still don't know the full story with Julian. There's no reason to jump to conclusions. Agreed. I'm sure there will be something interesting for us to sink our teeth into in the coming episodes. Besides, from what I have heard in the spoilers section, there should be some interesting episodes coming our way before the show takes an early dive for the season.

[mistaguitarmasta]

Originally posted by krpto
ALL I can say is I hope this is explained in episode 14 or 15 this year or some time early into season 8 since season 7 is cut short.


Originally posted by M0RGAN
Besides, from what I have heard in the spoilers section, there should be some interesting episodes coming our way before the show takes an early dive for the season.

So wait, it's been confirmed that there will only be 15 episodes this season? Even if the strike is resolved when talks resume at the end of Nov?

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by mistaguitarmasta
So wait, it's been confirmed that there will only be 15 episodes this season? Even if the strike is resolved when talks resume at the end of Nov? If they can ressolve there issues by the eleventh hour perhaps we will have more, but considering we are well into the third --going on fourth-- week, I just don't see SV having a full season.

[Dri-Sa]

Originally posted by KANE POUND $QUAD
let me get this straight
1) julian was born when lex was around 11-12 years old
2) lex met clark for the 1st time when he was 9 and clark 3
3) clark would have to be 6 years older than julian
4)lois is supposedly a year or two older than clark
5)why on earth is julian/gabriel running the daily planet at this age


to sum it up at the current season
lex is 27-28 years old
lois is 22-23 years old
clark is 21-22 years old
and julian/gabriel is 15-16 years
i'm really bothered by these inconsistencies and i will accepted any criticism to shed a few light on this matter.

he is probably a clone, knowing Al and Miles and their stupid ridiculous excuses for a plotline.

[litew8]

And allot of people critisized me for saying there's going to be a Lana clone with Multiple Meteor Freak Powers / Phantom Powers / Bionics / Super Healing.

This idea of cloning Jullian is BY FAR more ABSURD.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by litew8
And allot of people critisized me for saying there's going to be a Lana clone with Multiple Meteor Freak Powers / Phantom Powers / Bionics / Super Healing.

This idea of cloning Jullian is BY FAR more ABSURD.

It wasn't the clone aspect that people were criticizing, but that you stretched the premise beyond all reasonable conclusions. We STILL have not seen any evidence that the Lana we know is anything other than plain, ordinary, non-Doppleganger, non-Kryptonite enhanced Lana, and I very much doubt we ever will.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Absurd, yes I agree.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by Nospam
It wasn't the clone aspect that people were criticizing, but that you stretched the premise beyond all reasonable conclusions. We STILL have not seen any evidence that the Lana we know is anything other than plain, ordinary, non-Doppleganger, non-Kryptonite enhanced Lana, and I very much doubt we ever will. Add to the fact that more people know Lana more intimately than Grant. Grant is a new character on the scene & therefore will be under less suspicion for out of character behavior than Lana. People are still getting to know Grant where Lana has been on the scene for years.

Granted that Lana is far more deceptive and manipulative that she has been in previous seasons, but that it is still explainable factoring in what she went through in Season 6.