Clark's Consequence

[jcash]

Last time Clark had to suffer a consequence from Jor-El, Johnathon Kent had his heart attack and died.

I'm surprised there aren't a million threads flowing around about this already. Question is, since this is seemingly our cliffhanger. I think we need to start coming up with some guesses on who will be kicking the bucket next.

I really don't know who they'd do in, Lionel/Chloe/Lana are seem like some logical choices.

[reobeem]

Jor-El seems like the kind of voice who would hit home. I think he'll target someone close to Clark. It won't be Lana since she's alive in Persona, so that still leaves Jimmy, Lionel, Chloe, Lois, Shelby, pluss all of Clark's allies.

[erikamichelle614]

probably lionel, he's gonna stick to targeting the father figures i think, it makes sense to me.

[SmallFarmGirl]

Originally posted by jcash
I'm surprised there aren't a million threads flowing around about this already.

umm, there are now!

[KLGChaos]

I don't know if it'll involve someone's death. This time, Clark didn't bring someone back from the dead like he did when Jonathon died. I could picture something leading up to Grant's death, which makes Lex go even more insane and finally start targetting Clark for vengeance.

[adromidon]

I am currious myself

[moviefan2k4]

Well, we know he won't just depower Clark again, for two reasons:

1) All Clark would have to do is get himself mortally injured, and Jor-El would have no choice but to revive him.

2) It would be absolutely destructive to the overall story, if JorEl simply makes Clark mortal every time he rebels.

[redeem147]

I didn't see a trailer for next week, so my guess is the consequence is - pre-emption.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by reobeem
Jor-El seems like the kind of voice who would hit home. I think he'll target someone close to Clark. It won't be Lana since she's alive in Persona, so that still leaves Jimmy, Lionel, Chloe, Lois, Shelby, pluss all of Clark's allies.
actually we kno chloe/jimmy/lionel will be in future epi's as well.So really anyways is up for grabs,I do think its sumone close to him.But thats if jor-el plans on takin sumone away,clark hasnt died so there is no need for a balance unlike in s5.So who knows what may actually happen

[moviefan2k4]

Another new episode won't come for 4 weeks, hence the lack of a trailer. Thanksgiving Day will see a repeat of "Bizarro", "Kara" will air on the 29th, and "Fierce" on December 6th.

[Mello Penelo]

Jor-El should kill Clark and bring Jonathan back to life. Jonathan was a real hero. Clark is a tool.

[LegendaryU2K]

Lets see, ZOD, his 2 friends, and Zor-el will try to destory clark kent.

Come on now , what are the odds that Zorel is trap in the phantomzone?

[ClarkyBoy14]

No one's going to die. There's no balance that needs to be made.

I'm guessing he's going to force Clark to stay in the FOS for awhile as a timeout.

Tonight's ep. had some good cliff-hangers.

[farmboy20]

I think Jor-el just traped Clark in the Fortress.
"You're grounded go to your room!"

It kind of sounded like the consequence would be the other kryptonian returning.

Drat! You beat me to it, Clarkyboy :lol:

[LegendaryU2K]

^^^^^^^^^^ROFL

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

Yeah - don't know what Jor-el will do to punish clark. Maybe make him go to bed without dinner?

But seriously, I thought right when the fortress started glowing that he was going to take away the fortress.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
No one's going to die. There's no balance that needs to be made.

I'm guessing he's going to force Clark to stay in the FOS for awhile as a timeout.

Tonight's ep. had some good cliff-hangers.
Agreed,there is no need for a balance since no one died/brought back to life.So it'll be interestin to see what jor-el does to clark

[Dodge006]

Originally posted by moviefan2k4
Well, we know he won't just depower Clark again, for two reasons:

1) All Clark would have to do is get himself mortally injured, and Jor-El would have no choice but to revive him.

2) It would be absolutely destructive to the overall story, if JorEl simply makes Clark mortal every time he rebels.

Plus he'll love it cuz he can go bang Lana again.:D

[BABarracus]

Originally posted by Mrs.Bizzaro
Yeah - don't know what Jor-el will do to punish clark. Maybe make him go to bed without dinner?

But seriously, I thought right when the fortress started glowing that he was going to take away the fortress.

he'd go to bed with no sunlight

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by farmboy20
I think Jor-el just traped Clark in the Fortress.
"You're grounded go to your room!"

It kind of sounded like the consequence would be the other kryptonian returning.

Drat! You beat me to it, Clarkyboy :lol:
:lol: now that would be funny lol

[DarkChilde]

When Jor-El punishes Clark it is usually not directly. It is usually against someone he loves/cares about. He has used Lana and Jonathon for these in the past, I have feeling Martha or Lana will be used to pay for the consequence.

Martha would willing sacrafice herself to save he son. So I think it will be through Lana. And I believe this will lead to Lana's salvation from her "dark side"

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

what's the kryptonian equivalent to a goog 'ol fashion spanking?

[farmboy20]

Originally posted by Mrs.Bizzaro
what's the kryptonian equivalent to a goog 'ol fashion spanking?
i think that's when purple kryptonite comes in

maybe jor-el have martain manhunter give clark a stern talking to

[gameface25]

his punishment is obviously what happened to Kara.... what else would explain her losing her memory and appearing in Detroit.

[SteveS]

Other than the first Kara, I don't think Jor-El has killed anyone and he won't this time either. If someone dies, the consequences causing that death won't be created by Jor=El.

[adromidon]

no he has not but that does not mean he would not kill anyone

[Deana]

He is going to manifest himself inside Chloe, grab a belt, put Clark over his/her lap and whip his a$$.

Jor-el/Chloe: You stupid B*stard! Next time I tell you to do something...do it!

Spare the rod and spoil the child!

[Vergon6]

Jor-El said he nothing to do with what happened to Kara and only Zor-El could know where she is, so it's highly unlikely they caused what happened to her.

It looked like he was about to do something to Clark, but who knows what.

I am not sure why he would do this, but could it have to do with Bizarro's return? Although we haven't heard much about when and where Bizarro will return, he is supposed be back. Then again, it would make no sense for Jor-El to bring Bizarro back to Earth somehow.

[BadToad]

If Jor-El goes after someone close to Clark to "teach him a lesson", how does that not make him a monster? How does that not make him the sort of thing Clark should be fighting against tooth and nail?

Quite frankly, I wish we would find out that this AI is damaged somehow, or corrupted somehow, or not Jor-El at all. Because this sadistic dead guy is just the pits. And I certainly can't see how punishing Clark is going to improve relations between them any.

[adromidon]

Technicaly Lionel is still the vessal of Jor-EL so could he not reposeses Lionel and woop up on Clark

[BadToad]

Yeah, but Lionel as Jor-El's vessel doesn't even make sense anymore. When Zor-El came to Lionel's office and told him to tell Kal-El to follow, Lionel said that Kal-El was following his own path. Yet Jor-El is all do what I say no matter what. Apparently there seems to be a disconnect between Jor-El and his Vessel.

[adromidon]

Yeah but I ment the bond that was established when he became the vessal may have still been present meaning he could still be possesed

[darkkrypton81]

Clark should have known by now that defying Jor-El leads to disaster. Let's have a look of what has happened....

-Martha miscarries
-Jonathan has a heart attack
-Zod's cronies wreak havoc
-Lana dies (in alternate timeline)
-Jonathan dies from heart attack
-Zod is unleashed

If I have missed any go ahead and input...

Now then, what's going to happen now. Oooh! I do hope Clark gets locked in the fortress and is forced to study the 28 known galaxies.

[BABarracus]

Lionel is doing what jorel wants he caution him about lana he told lana to stay away he give clark info

as a human there is not much he can do really and he cannot force clark in to anything either

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
No one's going to die. There's no balance that needs to be made.

I'm guessing he's going to force Clark to stay in the FOS for awhile as a timeout.

Tonight's ep. had some good cliff-hangers.

I was thinking he was going to try to keep him there in the fortress too. I actually thing it would be kind of fun if at the opening of the next episode, it says "Three months later..." :) Lana is like WTF, but keeping the farm running with her millions. Ben Hubbard finally gets to work the land. Kara is a bag lady on 8-Mile and Shelby has taken over for Clark as the town hero. :)

[Billy Jor-El]

I'm wondering if Brainiac will be playing a part here. Didn't Jor-El create the Interactive Brain Consort? Could be something along those lines, another "I'll take away someone you love" would be (as far a plot lines go) an anti-climax....

[mysuperman07]

I really wish we didn't have to wait until December to find out what's gonna happen. Dang cliffhangers...

[I_am_LEX]

lets see... a consequence... losing someone close hasnt worked and i dont see how making him study is a consequence either. he didnt say Clark would be punished, only that there would be a consequence.

i dont see someone else be taken away or death being any part of the lesson this time. i'm kind of at a loss as to what it could be. Somebody think of something a little more out of the box... i'll do the same and get back to ya

[adromidon]

Hmm I am so lost now as far as what his consequence will be

[NoSupeForYou]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
Kara is a bag lady on 8-Mile

Actually, 8-mile is where all the strip clubs are.:D

[adromidon]

woot woot she will be a stripper

[I_am_LEX]

prly a dumb idea... but could a consequnce be that all the people he knows will have a 'mind wipe' ? except martha kent.
seems pointless but, on one hand it sort of makes sense to get clark to move on.

thats one of my ideas. anyone else got one?

[smallvillefan808]

well i think clark's consequence is regarding kara's "amnesia"

[kentfamily]

Does consequence have to mean death? I think it might already be that Kara is missing and has amnesia in Detroit. The consquence is that Clark is feeling guilty about it and hopes that Kara is still alive.

But then Jor El said something about Zor El having knowledge of where she is? huh!?

[NoSupeForYou]

Jor-el didn't do anything to Kara. If he had I think he would have said so since he's usually very blunt about what he does. Makes you wonder though what he's punishing Clark for.

Yes, he did disobey Jor-el and put the crystal into the FOS, but he also failed to watch over Kara like he instructed him earlier.

[SweetOne]

Originally posted by farmboy20
I think Jor-el just traped Clark in the Fortress.
"You're grounded go to your room!"

:rotfl:

[All about Clark]

I'm positive it is not relating to any death.

What I really think is that Jor-el will take away Clark's freedom and have him trapped in some way inside the fortress, that's why the camera appeared to be approaching Clark. The reason I think this is because Clark has dealt with physical (to his person) consequences and he's lost a loved one and still doesn't obey Jor-el. So it has to be something unrelated to both. The one thing Clark has enjoyed is that he has choices, that's why Jor-el will take his freedom because it removes Clark from being able to make choices.

[NoSupeForYou]

Maybe he makes him wear tights.

[MidgardDragon]

Why do we think someone's gonna die? When he sufferred a consequence in the Season 5 premiere it was having his powers removed.

I don't think they'll go the power-removal route again, but I think it won't be a death either.


Originally posted by All about Clark
I'm positive it is not relating to any death.

What I really think is that Jor-el will take away Clark's freedom and have him trapped in some way inside the fortress, that's why the camera appeared to be approaching Clark. The reason I think this is because Clark has dealt with physical (to his person) consequences and he's lost a loved one and still doesn't obey Jor-el. So it has to be something unrelated to both. The one thing Clark has enjoyed is that he has choices, that's why Jor-el will take his freedom because it removes Clark from being able to make choices.

I think this might be closer to a possibility than any death scenario. Perhaps he forces him to train, pushing him harder than even Clark can take, and only allows him out to do necessary activities and keep from making his friend suspicious. Heck, maybe we could even see a return of the chest-branding symbol if he disobeys Jor-El while he's away from the fortress.

Likely what will really happen will be something none of us predicted, but it should be fun to find out.

[Titan27]

I don't think anybody will die as the consequence for Clark to learn this lesson. The writers have been trying to show lately that Jor-El was a person who never sacrificed anyone to help the majority. The only reason Jonathan died was because he was already going to die from a heart-attack and Jor-El used his "life force" to bring Clark back to life. Since no one died in this case there would be no reason for someone to die. The consequence is probably knowing that Kara is gone and Jor-El is refusing to help Clark find her; so Clark will have to feel guilty knowing his cousin is beyond his help because of his actions. Remember Jor-El knows that the guilt is son will feel will be staggering because Jor-El constantly reprimands him for using too much human emotions instead of using his commons sense. If it isn't the remorse of losing a Kryptonian family member which I myself will admit seems pretty lame. His 'punishment' will then be in the form of some other form of payment to his father. The writers are trying to frame Jor-El's character and reasoning for sending Clark to Earth as identical to Marlon Brando's version of Jor-El.

[NoSupeForYou]

Reading the new spoiler at the spoilers page -which I will not mention anything specific about- sounds like Clark gets a time out.

Jor-el wants to teach Clark a lesson and make sure it sticks this time so it will likely be something good.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by Mrs.Bizzaro
what's the kryptonian equivalent to a goog 'ol fashion spanking?

Super Kryptonian spanky spank!


Originally posted by farmboy20
i think that's when purple kryptonite comes in

maybe jor-el have martain manhunter give clark a stern talking to

Bring on the Purple-K paddle.


Originally posted by Deana
He is going to manifest himself inside Chloe, grab a belt, put Clark over his/her lap and whip his a$$.

Jor-el/Chloe: You stupid B*stard! Next time I tell you to do something...do it!

Spare the rod and spoil the child!

Oh that's hot. LOL!


Seriously though Clark being trapped in the Fortress could be very interesting. Especially if he had some challenges to overcome... Sort of like Luke Skywalker's training on Degobah.

[Vergon6]

Now that I think about it, perhaps Jor-El forces Clark to do training the boring way, through book learnin' lol ala "Arrival"

[NoSupeForYou]

If Clark is Luke and Jor-el is Yoda, then is Chloe R2D2?

[Vergon6]

No, no you got it all wrong. Shelby is R2D2! :lol:

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
If Clark is Luke and Jor-el is Yoda, then is Chloe R2D2?

YES! I loved R2. *giggles insanely* Every thing would have gone to hell without R2. And he always made his happiest beeps when he was around Luke (though he belonged with C3P0).

*imagines R2 as a perky blonde*

ETA: Shelby does bark helpfully to get Clark out of trouble...

[NoSupeForYou]

I can picture Clark telling Jor-el he's not scared and Jor-el pulling a Yoda and telling him "you will be."
It's about time Jor-el brings out his belt.

[Vergon6]

Your destiny, fulfill you must ;)

[Pal-El]

I dont know why some of you are speculating if Jor-El will take someones life. I think thats way off.


Originally posted by BadToad

Quite frankly, I wish we would find out that this AI is damaged somehow, or corrupted somehow, or not Jor-El at all. Because this sadistic dead guy is just the pits. And I certainly can't see how punishing Clark is going to improve relations between them any.

I dont agree at all. Maybe back in season 2/3 I could understand that argument, and I think the writers just went with the tough love reverse psychology angle there (although Im not sure how successful). Since season 4 all Clark has done is disobey Jor-El or ignore his warnings, with dire consequences for everyone around him. Jor-El is right, it seems he lacks the capacity to learn from his mistakes. Just look at what has happened.


He didnt collect the stones when told it was important, which resulted in 2 of Zod's disciples being let loose and killing a bunch of people at the beginning of Arrival
He trusted his 'professor' over Jor-El which almost led to the release of Zod and the destruction of the fortress - the last remnant of krypton
he ignored Jor-El's warning in Arrival, which resulted in him losing his powers, which then led to the loss of Jonathan Kent- which to clarify, was not Jor-Els doing, simply the universe 'balancing' itself
Ignored jor-El in Vessel and chose to use the dagger on Brainiac instead of Lex Luthor, which resulted in the release of Zod, Clark being banished to the Phantom Zone, Zod nearly reshaping the Earth's crust to make it more homey, not to mention all the people that were killed during Zod's raid of the pentagon/riots during Dark Thursday
All the people who were killed by the Phantom Zone escapees, including inciting Lex Luthor's obsession with creating the perfect soldier from alien DNA. This also fed his Lana obsession and probably nudged him in the direction of cloning her
Ignores Jor-El again to release his mother and Zor-El, who promptly decides to take over the world and repopulate it with a whole lot of inbred kryptonians


In my opinion Jor-El maybe needs to lay some proper ground rules because his son has a lot to answer for.:)

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I think the "Clark doesn't listen to Jor-El and world suffers" story lines are wearing thin.
No one shoudl be written that dense like Clark is, regardless of molecular structure.

Its just silly at this point.

[SaberBlade]

You would think after all this time, Clark would have figured out that listening to Jor'el would be a good idea. But no, they constantly have to write in Clark going against him and getting punished for it.

I have to agree that they are wearing thin, because Clark needs to find some sort of compromise instead of completely ignoring Jor'el or giving himself to Jor'el and becoming the evil dictating ruler he believes Jor'el wants him to be.

As for the consequences, we'll probably never find out. Clark will probably be engulfed in a bright light having something played out in his head.

[Guidron]

I don't know if it has been stated previously, but I wonder if it will have something to do with showing Clark a future of Earth where he doesn't fulfill his 'Destiny'. Perhaps it will be Earth overrun and enslaved by Lex or some alien force. It may mirror Lexmas, where as in this instance, Clark makes the right choice where Lex made the wrong one.

[Dor el]

I like the Jorel isolates or imprisons Clark theory. One thing Clark said in an early season episode was that he feared being alone. Again in Ageless, when he saw the vision of everyone he loved were dead, he was freaked out. Clark is a benevolent social creature. Watching others suffer, especially if he feels responsible is intolerable to Clark. Clark does not like to be alone. Clark trapped in the fortress would serve multiple purposes. 1. He wouldn't be able to help those he cares about. (Hopefully, Jorel will provide as way for Clark to see what his absence brings to the people of earth. Videocam anyone?) 2. Isolation is painful for Clark. 3. He would be separated from his precious Lana. 4. No Chloe to bounce ideas off. 5. He would struggle with the "what has happened to Kara and did I kill her when I broke that blue crystal" thought. 6. He does cherish his freedom. When freedom is taken away, generally the response is a greater appreciation for and longing for freedom. 7. He could be made to do some serious soul searching. Jorel could remind him of his poor decisions and the consequences there of. 8. And maybe most important, Clark could get to know his father and the plans Jorel and Lara envisioned for Clark. (Of course that is unless the AIJ is damaged or has been altered in some way as previously suggested.)

Jorel could force Clark to take a really hard long look at himself and ponder his place in the universe. Making Clark realize that his reality is not to continue the status quo would certainly destabilize the world Clark has always known and felt safe in and comfortable in. Jorel could force Clark to let go of who he wants to be and grasp onto who he is. Clark is hardheaded and most likely will not give up his rather cozy life in Smallville unless forced to do so. That would be a dire consequence for Clark; standing up alone above all others with the weight of the entire world on his very capable shoulders. Perhaps not punishment in and of itself, but the right punishment could push Clark in this direction. A nudge we all anticipate and would welcome, I think.

Of course, 40 lashes with a kryptonite whip over an exposed back would work nicely, too. I don't know why, but I like when Clark hurts/bleeds.

[Coyote]

Jor-El is a psycho! Clark should just level the stupid fortress and get rid of that maniac. Jonathan and Martha have already taught Clark more about being a good person than Jor-El ever could. The Kryptonians are basically evil creeps who already destroyed their own planet. The only reason Clark and Kara aren't as bad as the rest of them is because of what they learned living on Earth.

[NoSupeForYou]

Clark nearly destroyed the Earth and the FOS through his disobedience, not to mention failed in his mission to watch over Kara. I think he deserves whatever punishment Jor-el comes up with.

If you lose your little cousin while babysitting, screw up the family computer and nearly burn the house down are your parents in the wrong for punishing you?

[Theshadow129x]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
Clark nearly destroyed the Earth and the FOS through his disobedience, not to mention failed in his mission to watch over Kara. I think he deserves whatever punishment Jor-el comes up with.

If you lose your little cousin while babysitting, screw up the family computer and nearly burn the house down are your parents in the wrong for punishing you?

exactly. i think Clark has whatever it is coming to him. he's an idiot plain and simple. he doesnt learn from anything from his past mistakes. after he defeated bizarro he said he knew his human thoughts and emotions were a reason why he was weak and puts everyone in danger. a few weeks later he does the opposite of what he said he wouldnt do anymore. idiot. he doesnt learn. jor-el needs to punish him. he almost destroyed the world in his ignorance.

[Kal-El Fan]

By reading the spoilers, I definitely think the consequence involves spending time in the Fortress. It says he's been gone for weeks. IDK if we will fully know what it was but, it will likely prep Clark for his training. The rest of the season will be Clark "tieing up loose ends" and preparing to leave for a longer time, like all Summer. ; )

[WickedJenn]

Originally posted by reobeem
Jor-El seems like the kind of voice who would hit home. I think he'll target someone close to Clark. It won't be Lana since she's alive in Persona, so that still leaves Jimmy, Lionel, Chloe, Lois, Shelby, pluss all of Clark's allies.

But I'm wondering if this consequence won't come up right away, heck, it might even be closer to the season finale.

Of course, that's just a theory...

[NoSupeForYou]

Jor-el is not simply out to inflict pain, he wants to show Clark how wrong he is for not letting the prior lessons soak in. I think he's going to do something to crush Clark's childish little dreams. There's no other punishment likely to actually get through to the BDA.

[WickedJenn]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
Jor-el is not simply out to inflict pain, he wants to show Clark how wrong he is for not letting the prior lessons soak in. I think he's going to do something to crush Clark's childish little dreams. There's no other punishment likely to actually get through to the BDA.

Dreams, you mean like "growing old with Lana" and taking care of the farm? :lol:

[mgedell]

I don't understand Jor-el's anger. For one thing Clark was brought up to help anyone in trouble - that includes his biological mother. Another thing, as Lana pointed out, any orphan who has a chance to meet his/her biological mother will do anything to do so. Even rebel. It would have been strange and out of character for Clark to act otherwise.

[NoSupeForYou]

Jor-el: Kal-el, I told you to take care of Kara.
Clark: I did take care of Lana.
Jor-el: I said, Kara.
Clark: Right, Lana.
Jor-el: Ka-ra.
Clark: La-na.
Jor-el: Alright follow me here. Ka...
Clark: Ka...
Jor-el: ...ra.
Clark: ...ra.
Jor-el: Kara.
Clark: Lana!
Jor-el: Alright, let's try this one more time.

Several months later...
Chloe: Where have you been Clark?
Clark: Jor-el was trying to teach me to say Lana for the last few months. I don't know why.

[ClarksGal]

^^Well, I think Jor el (and Lara too, really) wanted Clark to realize that Lara was already dead. Essentially, Clark was defying nature by trying to bring her back. What Clark did was an emotional choice, I agree with Jor El on that one. I understand why he wanted to meet his mother, and if I heard my dead mother calling for help from a crystal, I'd want to save her too. But Jor El wants Clark to trust him and obey him. The problem is that he wants him to blindly trust hm and obey him, and Clark won't do that. I really do think it's an interesting dynamic between them, and I hope the writers know what a great opportunity they have here. I hope they don't go for the huge dramatic twists and turns and instead try to delve deeper into the two different cultures and methods for achieving similar goals. And I hope that the ultimate outcome is for Jor El to teach Clark everything he knows, and for Clark to incorporate that information but not completely assimilate. And I would love for Jor El (AI or not) to finally accept that Clark's goals for his own destiny may be the same as Jor El's goals for him, but as a man Clark will choose to find a balance between pure logic and his emotions. Not only would Clark be greater than any human, but in my opinion that would make him greater than any Kryptonian, too.

[STFanatic]

Simple punishment for Clark.

"No pie for you!"

Or,

"From now on, unless you are working toward your destiny, you must wear glasses to see properly, and as a bonus if you obey, no one will recognize you as a superior being while you wear them."

Hey, for these writers, it is a way out ;)

[All about Clark]

I just had a thought, wouldn't it be cool for Jor-el to use the same prison type rings that rotate around on Clark in the fortress that were used before Zod was sent to the PZ in the 70's movies? He'd be imprisoned but could still communicate with Jor-el.

I do think it's important that Clark not trust only his emotions. He was easily manipulated by hearing Lara crying out for him. He didn't use his brain at all. And his emotional side could easily destroy the world if not kept in check to some degree. So I have to agree that some sort of time-out might be really good for Clark.

[NoSupeForYou]

Reading about Clark being happy with his relationship with Lana a couple episodes from now you have to wonder if Jor-el gets through to him.

[joel_welling93]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
Jor-el: Kal-el, I told you to take care of Kara.
Clark: I did take care of Lana.
Jor-el: I said, Kara.
Clark: Right, Lana.
Jor-el: Ka-ra.
Clark: La-na.
Jor-el: Alright follow me here. Ka...
Clark: Ka...
Jor-el: ...ra.
Clark: ...ra.
Jor-el: Kara.
Clark: Lana!
Jor-el: Alright, let's try this one more time.

Several months later...
Chloe: Where have you been Clark?
Clark: Jor-el was trying to teach me to say Lana for the last few months. I don't know why.

Hahahaha!!!:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: Good one!!!

Anyway, wonder if Lana starts a new hobby while Clark is missing....Perhaps growing potatoes(Hey I can't think of anything easier than that).... What else will she do? Run the farm with Shelby? Maybe Shelby will pass her the "Running a Farm for Dummies" manual....... Most probably the consequence for Clark's stretched out stubbornness is death... Allison Mack's directional debut is for the 21st episode or so... So I doubt its Chloe.... Maybe Lionel, Lana, Shelby, Lois or some other person that's close to him..... Just hope I'm wrong and the consequence isn't
death..........

[WickedJenn]

Ah that's right, I forgot about Allison directing episode 21...

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
Reading about Clark being happy with his relationship with Lana a couple episodes from now you have to wonder if Jor-el gets through to him.

I really don't believe that Jor-el would care about Clana as long as Clark fulfills the destiny of being Earth's protector.

I also think if Jor-el places a time-out on Clark that it would make sense for him to truly appreciate those things he missed, such as the relationships he has with people.

[Jaded Wolf]

The consequence will be the death of Shelby, the loss of Lana, and Lex getting it on with Martha. Then Clark will know he is utterly alone...

[Carnagefan88]

Originally posted by jcash
Last time Clark had to suffer a consequence from Jor-El, Johnathon Kent had his heart attack and died.

I'm surprised there aren't a million threads flowing around about this already. Question is, since this is seemingly our cliffhanger. I think we need to start coming up with some guesses on who will be kicking the bucket next.

I really don't know who they'd do in, Lionel/Chloe/Lana are seem like some logical choices. i don't think that's his consequence i seriously doubt he's going to kill anyone more like sending him somewhere

[Titan27]

This would be how a human father would interpret these actions by a son; and Clark prides himself on his human emotions so he should have to suffer the consequences of his actions if he were human. Which I think Jor-El is doing to him. I believe that Jor-El simply stated to Clark, I won't help you find Kara" - learn from your mistakes and then the white light just teleported Clark back to Smallville.




Yeah, but Lionel as Jor-El's vessel doesn't even make sense anymore. When Zor-El came to Lionel's office and told him to tell Kal-El to follow, Lionel said that Kal-El was following his own path. Yet Jor-El is all do what I say no matter what. Apparently there seems to be a disconnect between Jor-El and his Vessel.

Lionel probably means is that Clark is taking parts of Jor-El's path and adding his own style to it, which makes him Superman. Jor-El just is telling Clark this is how I would do it, but Clark ultimately alters his destiny and defines it his own style.
-Sorry BadToad, I promised I am not going out of my way to try to counter argue you. As you could tell from my other post this is the part of the episode that upset me the most, and I previously had a post here, and just wanted to subscribe to it and found your post and had to add my two cents. I hope you are ok with that.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Coyote
Jor-El is a psycho! Clark should just level the stupid fortress and get rid of that maniac. Jonathan and Martha have already taught Clark more about being a good person than Jor-El ever could. The Kryptonians are basically evil creeps who already destroyed their own planet. The only reason Clark and Kara aren't as bad as the rest of them is because of what they learned living on Earth. Maybe Jor-El should level Smallville -

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[Theshadow129x]

Originally posted by litew8
Maybe Jor-El should level Smallville -

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:rotfl:

[GuardianAngel]

Maybe Jor-el teleported Clark to wherever the MM is so that MM can teach him something about discipline. I'm sure after a few hours even MM would give up and label Clark as a lost cause! :lol:

[mgedell]

I think Clark should have put the entire problem on Jor-el's doorstep. If Zor-el was as dangerous as was advertised, how come Jor-el didn't put him into the phantom zone? Speaking of the phantom zone where was Jor-el when Clark was fighting the zoners? He seems to be missing in action when Clark needs him.

[STFanatic]

Zor-el could have excaped the Zone just as Clark-el did, the "key" was the blood of the "el" family.