What if you feel like you are past the point of no return....

[The Blue Bomber]

If you don't know this is what Lana said to Clark

An interesting foreshadow, or something to just ignore?

[iheartCK4eva]

lana needs to get her act together

[LKent113]

She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

[paolinki25]

Ugh..I stopped caring about Lana a long time ago. I'm sick of these "I'm dark..No wait! I'm good. No,wait! I'm bad again".

[chantal]

If she really thinks she's PAST the point of NO return, then she should get herself checked in to Belle Reve. If she REALLY believes that, then she knows she could be a threat to everyone, not just the Luthors.

[Alexander III]

Lana's on crack, you don't really have to take her words that seriously.

[Jephael]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

I know, man. I get the feeling that eventually she'll realize that having anything to do with Clark's life at this point puts her through too much emotional turmoil.

[CLanaF23]

i think she knows that she is letting her darker side get the best of her and she knows she needs to stop. she is a good person she just hates lex and thats completely understandable but she cant let her hate ruin her life and her as a person.

[jposey]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

^Agreed.


Also, she did say she WAS at the point of no return she said she FELT like she was. The two are profoundly different. And she's not completely evil or anything like that, she's not. Standing up for Lara especially against a kryptonian (where she obviously can't win) is a good, selfless thing to do.

[Karafan]

Lana is poison to Clark. She needs to disappear from his life. Lex and her are two of a kind she needs to stop fighting her true nature as Clark has been fighting his own destiny.

[SweetOne]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Ugh..I stopped caring about Lana a long time ago. I'm sick of these "I'm dark..No wait! I'm good. No,wait! I'm bad again".

LOL me too. Is that the only way they know how to keep a story going?? The back and forth see-saw.

Just like Clana for 7 seasons. They can't be together because Clark can't tell her the truth. Then Clark loves her so much they have to give it a try. Then somehow Clark being an alien puts Lana in danger so Clark has to break it off. Then some momentous event happens so they realize their feelings are "too strong to ignore" so they give it another try. Then they break up...then they reunite......then they break up...then they get back together. It's so pathetic and not at all enjoyable to watch.

I am sick of the see-sawing as well. I had to laugh at your..."I'm dark..No wait! I'm good. No,wait! I'm bad again".

[boingo]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

I agree. But asking some here to give Lana's character ANY "credit" is blasphemy on this board lol I have faith Lana will be just fine especially with Clark's help, love and support.

[jposey]

^^lol yep! I think so too.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think
The problem is that when people say they believe they may be past the point of no return it usually means they already knew they crossed the line a long time ago. They have no intention of turning back until what they set out to do is completed.

[ClanaDestinyObsession]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

YES!! exactly!! I have a new hope for CLana! Why?
1) Clark was willing to help her. (after all those times he spent saving her why would he stop NOW? she needs him!)

2) She admitted her wrongs and seemed sorry and even said "what if you feel like you are past the point of no return..." and HE was like --you can do it lana its ok im right here...

3) that hug was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :) :cool:

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by ClanaDestinyObsession
YES!! exactly!! I have a new hope for CLana! Why?
1) Clark was willing to help her. (after all those times he spent saving her why would he stop NOW? she needs him!)

2) She admitted her wrongs and seemed sorry and even said "what if you feel like you are past the point of no return..." and HE was like --you can do it lana its ok im right here...

3) that hug was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :) :cool:
I don't think Clark will ever stop trying to save Lana. (It's in his nature to help everyone.) But I don't think this will turn back into a romance. Clark has seen an aspect of Lana that he never believed could exist. What Chloe said in Wrath still rings true. Lana may not intentionally try to harm Clark, but she is the most capable of anyone to do it.

[supergirl28]

People i know what Lana is going through. I am so much like her myself. I do things, maybe ot to that extream, but their bad enough to the point that i think i cant fix them. Just try to see things from Lana's eyes. Not just what many of you see. There's more to her than meets the eye.

[ClanaDestinyObsession]

thing is true love like CLana's lasts through thick and thin ....for better and for worse ;)! they have learned from other past mistakes and by now and they've figured out that no matter what they still will always love each other and it is inevitable (except for the writers controlling the script lol) that they love each other and want to be with each other. now that it is almost possible they cant give up! *falls on knees and starts to beg AlMiles*


Originally posted by M0RGAN
I don't think Clark will ever stop trying to save Lana. (It's in his nature to help everyone.) But I don't think this will turn back into a romance. Clark has seen an aspect of Lana that he never believed could exist. What Chloe said in Wrath still rings true. Lana may not intentionally try to harm Clark, but she is the most capable of anyone to do it.

[svtwamedfan05]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Ugh..I stopped caring about Lana a long time ago. I'm sick of these "I'm dark..No wait! I'm good. No,wait! I'm bad again".

exactly, I'm right there with you

[boingo]

Originally posted by M0RGAN
But I don't think this will turn back into a romance. Clark has seen an aspect of Lana that he never believed could exist. ...

AND he tells her: "We all make mistakes" and that it is "How we come back from the mistakes [is] what matters" to "look at all of the things [she] did for his mother" that she is "not that far gone"< All of his words in that scene indicate that he believes in her...no doubts whatsoever about it.

I loved that scene. It is wonderful seeing both Clark and Lana supporting each other during their "tough" times.

[closetclana]

The last few episodes and especially in "blue" they were setting up the "Lana Redemption" plot which I think will be her arc for the rest of the season.

IMO the Lana Redemption arc will conclude with Lana realizing that the only way she can redeem herself is to let Clark go and push him towards his destiny. That will end Clana propelling Lana towards a happier life and propelling Clark towards Superman and everyone will be happy.

As far as the battle between darkness and light – this is a universal human experience. They just exaggerate it in Lana for the sake of television dramatic effect.

[boingo]

Originally posted by closetclana
The last few episodes and especially in "blue" they were setting up the "Lana Redemption" plot which I think will be her arc for the rest of the season.

IMO the Lana Redemption arc will conclude with Lana realizing that the only way she can redeem herself is to let Clark go and push him towards his destiny. That will end Clana propelling Lana towards a happier life and propelling Clark towards Superman and everyone will be happy....


There were some glimpses of that happening (Lana "pusing Clark towards his destiny") during the last Clark and Lana scene in "Action"....I loved the dialogue between them during that scene as well. She tells him that "...He [crazed fan] needed hope and he is not wrong, millions of people look up to 'Warrior Angel'. What if those people could look up to you instead....Clark, I just want to grab on to you and never let you go, but one day the world will need you more than I do and I don't want to be the one holding you here."

Again, LOVED IT!



As far as the battle between darkness and light – this is a universal human experience. They just exaggerate it in Lana for the sake of television dramatic effect.

I agree.

[Mello Penelo]

Lana = fast forward

[darkone]

I hope there's there's an Episode where Lana has the opportunity to get rid of Lex again but instead of going through with it she decides to save him.Even though I still think that Lex deserves to die I'd be a happy camper seeing something like that.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by darkone
I hope there's there's an Episode where Lana has the opportunity to get rid of Lex again but instead of going through with it she decides to save him.Even though I still think that Lex deserves to die I'd be a happy camper seeing something like that.

I'd probably still fast forward through that episode.

[boingo]

Originally posted by darkone
I hope there's there's an Episode where Lana has the opportunity to get rid of Lex again but instead of going through with it she decides to save him.Even though I still think that Lex deserves to die I'd be a happy camper seeing something like that.

That would be interesting.

[msleggie]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think.


I don't really like Lana, but I agree with what you said, at least she's trying...that's gotta count 4 something.

[SweetOne]

Originally posted by ClanaDestinyObsession
and they've figured out that no matter what they still will always love each other

Actually I believe Wrath was used to show that this isn't true. The end scene when Lana was speaking to Clark she said something like "I need to know that no matter what I do....you will always love me". Clark did NOT say ANYTHING.

I really think that this was a turning point. Clark has adored and idolized Lana for 6 seasons. Most viewers figure that at some point this will end and he will move on. I think that AlMiles are trying to tell us that Clark is moving on in this scene.

How easy would it have been for the producers to write Clark saying "Lana.....you know I will always love you...." (or something to that effect) IF they wanted to convey that he still feels this way. BUT TPTB left Clark SILENT. This was for a reason. They have roughly 40 minutes each episode to lay out their specific storyline. They use lighting, music, facial expressions and script to convey to the viewers EXACTLY what they mean. I guess I'm just trying to say that they put CAREFUL THOUGHT into each scene. I think that Clark having no reply for Lana was monumental. They were trying to tell us that his feelings ARE CHANGING.

And it is an appropriate development because the series will not last much longer and they need to wrap-up the "young love" storyline to prepare for Superman and Lois.

[last man of krypton]

"What if you feel like you are past the point of no return....".

Simple; you keep on watching year in, year out, saying to yourself, "this year Clark will face his destiny." :p

[boingo]

Originally posted by SweetOne
Actually I believe Wrath was used to show that this isn't true. The end scene when Lana was speaking to Clark she said something like "I need to know that no matter what I do....you will always love me". Clark did NOT say ANYTHING.

I am optimistic like ClanaDestinyObsession and I saw their interaction in "Blue" as a very postive one.....as far as the ending of "Wrath" that appeared to be more for dramatic effect....to leave the audience guessing until the next episode.

After constantly reading the "doom and gloom" wishes of some for many years (which have meant nothing in most cases lol), I have learned to not give too much credence to it all and just enjoy what I am actually seeing on my tv screen lol I don't care much for "what ifs" lol

[CDLBLUE]

Lana pass the point of no return long ago, and everyone deep down knows it, as everyone is in some of stage of denial over it, nevertheless everyone sees it, Chloe certainly, Clark partially, Lex has felt it, and Lana implicitly knows it, the story arc may be Clark's saving her soul, as he has so often saved her life, but something is going to happen that Clark will finally see that this Lana is not the one he once loved, and then and only then can their final departure take place.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by LKent113
She is admitting that she has a problem, that better then denial. That to me proves the girl is trying. Give her some credit. I know alot of people don't like her, but honestly I think the talk she had w/ Lara and what Lara said to her made her really think about things. A step back in the right direction I think

Hear, hear! :)

It was still annoying though.

[clana4everfan2]

Ahh give Lana some slack. I mean the girl knows she was wrong in what she did. She knows her issues with Lex if she doesn't let it go will destroy her and Clark. And Clark's trust in her and them. Meaning as long as she continues to seek revenge on Lex they can't really ever be truly together.
They still are so sweet together though. :)

[Honey45]

There's no point even discussing it. Everyone hates Lana so much, they don't care what she does.

She could tell Clark she has done horrible things, that they should break up, and that he has a bigger destiny other than Smallville, then fall of the face of the Earth and die .... they would still blame everything on her.
:rolleyes:

[Jephael]

Originally posted by HeddyH
There's no point even discussing it. Everyone hates Lana so much, they don't care what she does.

Hey, there's plenty of Clana supporters around here, but to be quite honest I just wish they would make Lana's issues seperate from her feelings towards Clark. They should be two completely different issues, IMHO!

[chantal]

Originally posted by ClanaDestinyObsession
thing is true love like CLana's lasts through thick and thin ....for better and for worse ;)! they have learned from other past mistakes and by now and they've figured out that no matter what they still will always love each other and it is inevitable (except for the writers controlling the script lol) that they love each other and want to be with each other. now that it is almost possible they cant give up! *falls on knees and starts to beg AlMiles*

How can you call it TRUE love when both Lana (repeatedly) and Clark (finally) say that Clark was in love with a FALSE image of Lana? How can you be truly in love with a stranger?

[boingo]

Originally posted by HeddyH
There's no point even discussing it. Everyone hates Lana so much, they don't care what she does.

She could tell Clark she has done horrible things, that they should break up, and that he has a bigger destiny other than Smallville, then fall of the face of the Earth and die .... they would still blame everything on her.
:rolleyes:

:lol:
I don't think "everyone" hates Lana...I don't lol ...sometimes it is quite funny reading some of the outlandish comments made about Lana's character lol

[darkone]

Clark (finally) say that Clark was in love with a FALSE image of Lana?

Clark isnt/wasnt in love with an image.He just denied to accept that Lana changed throughout her relationships with him and Lex.He loves sweet Lana and Lana was that kind of person in the past.She just changed because of Clark's dishonesty and Lex' influence on her.That doesnt mean Clark's love for her is false or or something.I'd like to see that Clark's influence on her changes her back to sweet Lana combinated with the strength I saw in her character over the past couple of years.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by boingo
AND he tells her: "We all make mistakes" and that it is "How we come back from the mistakes [is] what matters" to "look at all of the things [she] did for his mother" that she is "not that far gone"< All of his words in that scene indicate that he believes in her...no doubts whatsoever about it.

I loved that scene. It is wonderful seeing both Clark and Lana supporting each other during their "tough" times. What exactly did Lana do for his mother? She made tea & chatted about not letting anger and "darkness" take a person over, then later tells Zor' El to "let her go" when he tries to take Lara. That's it.

[Jephael]

It would've been funny to hear her say "What I wouldn't give to have Clark's powers again."

[boingo]

Originally posted by M0RGAN
What exactly did Lana do for his mother? She made tea & chatted about not letting anger and "darkness" take a person over, then later tells Zor' El to "let her go" when he tries to take Lara. That's it.

She defended Lara the only way she could....knowing she was powerless...knowing she didn't stand a chance and yet she still stood up to Zor-El. Lara told Lana to "Run" and she could have easily done just that..... and just abandon Lara to save herself BUT she didn't....Lana stayed with Lara (did not leave her) knowing that by doing so would most likely result in her ending up in the hospital (again lol) or the morgue.



Originally posted by Jephael
It would've been funny to hear her say "What I wouldn't give to have Clark's powers again."

That would have been funny :lol:

[The Blue Bomber]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by boingo
[B]She defended Lara the only way she could....knowing she was powerless...knowing she didn't stand a chance and yet she still stood up to Zor-El. Lara told Lana to "Run" and she could have easily done just that..... and just abandon Lara to save herself BUT she didn't....Lana stayed with Lara (did not leave her) knowing that by doing so would most likely result in her ending up in the hospital (again lol) or the morgue.



that is true.... their still is hope for clana, not alot but their is some which for me and others is a good thing but for many many others, its a bad thing

[Kal-EL1126]

I think you are exactly right. You could see in Clark's eye's that he knew he couldn't give her that answer anymore that she wanted to hear. He knows that the time is drawing nearer when he will have to fuffill his destiny. He loves Lana, don't get me wrong, but I think he is realizing that Lana isn't the "one" for him with her crazy rollercoaster









Originally posted by SweetOne
Actually I believe Wrath was used to show that this isn't true. The end scene when Lana was speaking to Clark she said something like "I need to know that no matter what I do....you will always love me". Clark did NOT say ANYTHING.

I really think that this was a turning point. Clark has adored and idolized Lana for 6 seasons. Most viewers figure that at some point this will end and he will move on. I think that AlMiles are trying to tell us that Clark is moving on in this scene.

How easy would it have been for the producers to write Clark saying "Lana.....you know I will always love you...." (or something to that effect) IF they wanted to convey that he still feels this way. BUT TPTB left Clark SILENT. This was for a reason. They have roughly 40 minutes each episode to lay out their specific storyline. They use lighting, music, facial expressions and script to convey to the viewers EXACTLY what they mean. I guess I'm just trying to say that they put CAREFUL THOUGHT into each scene. I think that Clark having no reply for Lana was monumental. They were trying to tell us that his feelings ARE CHANGING.

And it is an appropriate development because the series will not last much longer and they need to wrap-up the "young love" storyline to prepare for Superman and Lois.

[M0RGAN]

Originally posted by Kal-EL1126
I think you are exactly right. You could see in Clark's eye's that he knew he couldn't give her that answer anymore that she wanted to hear. He knows that the time is drawing nearer when he will have to fuffill his destiny. He loves Lana, don't get me wrong, but I think he is realizing that Lana isn't the "one" for him with her crazy rollercoaster There's no doubt in my mind that they love each other in their own ways. The problem is that when a person gets older their concept of love changes just as the object of their affections changes. In the end sometimes the concept & the object just don't have the capacity to co-exist with each other. Lana is no longer the same person that Clark fell in love with. She has changed & unless Clark can adapt to those changes I just don't see their relationship moving beyond anything but friends.

[theotherJane]

Originally posted by Kal-EL1126
I think you are exactly right. You could see in Clark's eye's that he knew he couldn't give her that answer anymore that she wanted to hear. He knows that the time is drawing nearer when he will have to fuffill his destiny. He loves Lana, don't get me wrong, but I think he is realizing that Lana isn't the "one" for him with her crazy rollercoaster

He's known that for a long time now, ever since he had that talk with Martha, back in S5.

[kentfamily]

Can somebody tell me what kind of look Clark was giving when he hugged Lana at end of their scene together, after he tells her look at what you did to help my mother.

Was that a satisfied look and he has forgiven her for all the mistakes she has made. Or was that a not sure kind of look?

I read in the spoliers that in episodes 14 and 15 will explain everything. Hope so... it is confusing so far this season and it is getting annoying

[CLanaF23]

Originally posted by SweetOne
Actually I believe Wrath was used to show that this isn't true. The end scene when Lana was speaking to Clark she said something like "I need to know that no matter what I do....you will always love me". Clark did NOT say ANYTHING.

I really think that this was a turning point. Clark has adored and idolized Lana for 6 seasons. Most viewers figure that at some point this will end and he will move on. I think that AlMiles are trying to tell us that Clark is moving on in this scene.

How easy would it have been for the producers to write Clark saying "Lana.....you know I will always love you...." (or something to that effect) IF they wanted to convey that he still feels this way. BUT TPTB left Clark SILENT. This was for a reason. They have roughly 40 minutes each episode to lay out their specific storyline. They use lighting, music, facial expressions and script to convey to the viewers EXACTLY what they mean. I guess I'm just trying to say that they put CAREFUL THOUGHT into each scene. I think that Clark having no reply for Lana was monumental. They were trying to tell us that his feelings ARE CHANGING.

And it is an appropriate development because the series will not last much longer and they need to wrap-up the "young love" storyline to prepare for Superman and Lois.



just because he didnt say anything..dont mean he doesnt love her no matter wat...