Mama Petrelli Power?

[Drolfin]

Was it me or did they really want to make sure we saw Angela touching her daughter-in-law when they were talking? I smell a new power.

[pycer]

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Maybe some sort of persuasion/ mental manipulation ability transfered through touch?

[Hero66]

maybe Ma Petrelli can influence people to commit suicide. It seemed like when she was talking to Heidi that she was sure Nathan wasn't going to live for much longer.

[Mello Penelo]

Nah. She doesn't have a power.

The reason she told Parkman to get out of her head is she's one of the members of The Company. When HRG tagged Parkman way back when the show started, she found out about his ability.

From the interrogation, she knew Parkman was reading her mind by saying the things she was thinking. That's why she told him to get out of her head.

She has no power.

[Randy G.]

Ma Petrelli's power........ She likes to feel on other women. :eek: :lol:

Just kidding......... I think it's possibly the power of persuasion by touch.
Much like Eden's was persuasion by voice.

[Hero66]

All of the nine had some kind of power. Ma Petrelli was in the photo and has an ability of some kind. We don't know exactly what Kaito Nakamura's was, but he must have had one.

[Mello Penelo]

Never once was it said everyone in the photo had an ability.

[Hero66]

Never once was it said that everyone in the photo didn't have an ability.

[pycer]

Originally posted by Hero66
Never once was it said that everyone in the photo didn't have an ability.


Yes, it also wasn't said they all weren't martians with little alien heads in their belly buttons...so perhaps we should assume that they all were...

[Odysseus]

Personally I just thought it was creepy when Mama Petrelli was stroking her daughter-in-law's hair. Powers or no powers, it was just plain weird.

[Randy G.]

Lol! Creepy ol' broad.....quit touching me! :rotfl:

[Hero66]

Despite it not being said, it appears possible to me that they all could have a power.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by pycer
Yes, it also wasn't said they all weren't martians with little alien heads in their belly buttons...so perhaps we should assume that they all were...

You know what they say when you assume, right?

[Randy G.]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
You know what they say when you assume, right?

Yup! They say that people will draw different conclusions. ;) :lol:

[Mello Penelo]

If Mrs. Petrelli really had a power, she would have revealed it one way or another last season. Whether she showed it to anyone but the fans, she would have shown it by now.

Everyone else displayed their abilities pretty much when the made their respective debuts. Why would she be the only person to wait a season and a half? Simple. No power.

[HowardFilms]

I think she has a power...

But what about Kaito? What was his power? And why the hell didn't he use it?

[Drolfin]

She's made way too many references to having a power not to. Just last episode, she said that peter might be the most powerful of "us". And when she was talking to claire last season... she def. has a power

[Alexander III]

Ma Petrelli is weird...f@cking weird!

[Red Arrow Kuczynski]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Never once was it said everyone in the photo had an ability.

At one point, one of the characters said that they (the older generation) found others who had powers and they formed the Company.

[Mello Penelo]

No, it was just said they formed it. Not everyone had abilities.

[Yoshua]

Originally posted by Hero66
Never once was it said that everyone in the photo didn't have an ability.

Is pa patrelli in the photo?

It was stated in the online comics he had no ability.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Yoshua
Is pa patrelli in the photo?

It was stated in the online comics he had no ability.

Aha! I knew not everyone had powers in The Company.

I'm sure someone is going to come after me and say, "But, but, but if Dallas Petrelli and Mrs. Petrelli don't have powers, how do Peter and Nathan?"

Easy. It's called a recessive gene. Not every gene we have is turned on. For instance, hair color. It's controlled by a gene. If it's turned on, it's a color. If it's not turned on, you're blonde.

It's the same thing. Either Mr. or Mrs. Petrelli have the gene, but it isn't one of the active, dominant genes.

The gene was passed on to Peter and Nathan, where the gene is dominant.

[GuardianAngel]

Originally posted by Randy G.
I think it's possibly the power of persuasion by touch.
Much like Eden's was persuasion by voice.

That's exactly what I thought. On the olther hand it's not the first time that two people share the same power: West can fly, the same as Nathan. Claire can self-heal, as can Adam.
Actually Claire's power is rather creepy if you think about it. Adam didn't age one day since his power manifested in 1671. Because he can heal, his cells regenerate continuously and he doesn't age. So.... Claire will be 16 for the rest of her life! I wonder how Mr Bennet is going to explain that to his neighbours. His family will probably have to move every two years and he'll have to fake Claire's ID..!:lol:

[HowardFilms]

Forget Mr. Bennet...

How is the show going to explain it when Claire is older in the show? Pretty certain she can't actually stay 16 forever...

[pycer]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
Forget Mr. Bennet...

How is the show going to explain it when Claire is older in the show? Pretty certain she can't actually stay 16 forever...

This has been a problem for sci fi shows/ movies since the beggining of time basically. Highlander, Star Trek, Angel...all of them ran into this issue and not a one came up with a believable solution...other than lots and lots and lots of makeup.

[HowardFilms]

Recasting every two years or so? lol...

They don't even have the option of killing her off...

[Super Rocky]

Or they could say Claires power doesn't gain the strength of anti-aging until she reachers a prime age which Adam is at in his life.

[Yoshua]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
Forget Mr. Bennet...

How is the show going to explain it when Claire is older in the show? Pretty certain she can't actually stay 16 forever...

Are you kidding me?..... Suspend your disbelief. They won't explain it. She will either be killed off, or they just wont explain it.


If they do explain it, it will be in the form of her losing the abilities.

[HowardFilms]

Even if she dies in an explosion, she'll be back in season 402

[Curium]

Peters and nathans mum 100 percent has a power it is just yet to be revealed .. as when she is talkin to peter in episode 7 .. she says " you are the most powerful of us all " kinda a dead give away right there .

[XanthusAZ]

Mello, you are just plain wrong on this one. She DEFINITELY has a power. She has made numerous references to it- she mentioned "us" when referring to people with tpowers with both Peter and Matt, all of the 12 have been said to have powers, and she talked with Claire last season she basically admitted that she had one. It's almost definitely something psychic, perhaps the dream power if Mr. Deveaux ends up not having it, or something else. I think she doesn't have persuasion, though, becasue if she did she would have used it many other times before, like maybe when she was TRYING TO CONVINCE NATHAN TO LET HIS BROTHER BLOW UP!!! If she had the power, she wopuld have used it then, so she doesn't.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
Mello, you are just plain wrong on this one. She DEFINITELY has a power. She has made numerous references to it- she mentioned "us" when referring to people with tpowers with both Peter and Matt, all of the 12 have been said to have powers, and she talked with Claire last season she basically admitted that she had one. It's almost definitely something psychic, perhaps the dream power if Mr. Deveaux ends up not having it, or something else. I think she doesn't have persuasion, though, becasue if she did she would have used it many other times before, like maybe when she was TRYING TO CONVINCE NATHAN TO LET HIS BROTHER BLOW UP!!! If she had the power, she wopuld have used it then, so she doesn't.

Until we see concrete proof Mrs. Petrelli has an ability, keep your "you are just plain wrong" comments to yourself.

[Sweetie]

I think she hypnotises people.She pursuades them to do whatever she wants just by looking in their eyes,she's touching them to show some compassion but,it's exactly how her power is working.Everybody is saying that she's a master manipulator that would be the answer.

[HowardFilms]

Well, to his credit, she did pretty much tell Claire she had one. I'd say it's pretty safe to assume...

[Randy G.]

Yeah at this point, nobody's opinion is "just plain wrong," so let's take it easy with that.
I'm sure we can all probably agree that Ma Petrelli is kind of creepy, to say the least. :lol:
It will be quite interesting to see how they play this out.

[XanthusAZ]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Until we see concrete proof Mrs. Petrelli has an ability, keep your "you are just plain wrong" comments to yourself.

How much proof do you need? It's basically already been stated that she has a power.

[kent_eh]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
I think she has a power...

But what about Kaito? What was his power? And why the hell didn't he use it?
My theory is that he teaches, in a similar way to how Monica learns.

- Ever notice how every American around him spoke Japanese? (From the company people to the henchmen who grabbed Ando and Hiro in the parking garage)
- Ever wonder how he taught Hiro to be a skilled swordsman (good enough to challenge Sylar in a "fate of the world depends on it" fight) in one short lesson?

[pycer]

Originally posted by kent_eh
My theory is that he teaches, in a similar way to how Monica learns.

- Ever notice how every American around him spoke Japanese? (From the company people to the henchmen who grabbed Ando and Hiro in the parking garage)
- Ever wonder how he taught Hiro to be a skilled swordsman (good enough to challenge Sylar in a "fate of the world depends on it" fight) in one short lesson?

As someone who is moderately proficient with a sword (nowhere near George Takei's ability I am certain) that particular scene bothered me a little myself. Perhaps this is the best explanation for how that could happen. In reality, Hiro would have needed months if not years of training to be as good as he apparently is now.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
How much proof do you need? It's basically already been stated that she has a power.

Until she uses it and there is concrete evidence, I will continue to believe she's normal.

[kent_eh]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Until she uses it and there is concrete evidence, I will continue to believe she's normal.
Her having a power or not aside, she's anything but normal...:D

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
How much proof do you need? It's basically already been stated that she has a power.

Until it's explicitly stated or demonstrated, we can't say for certain one way or the other.

In my opinion, I do think she has the power of persuasion but that she doesn't use it on Peter & Nathan because they're her sons. Doing as she says should be a matter of choice for them, not force (which is why she's apparently happier with Nathan - the obedient son - than Peter).

[Khyla]

Originally posted by pycer
Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Maybe some sort of persuasion/ mental manipulation ability transfered through touch?
That's what i was thinking too.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
In my opinion, I do think she has the power of persuasion

A lot of people have that. And without abilities.

[Randy G.]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
A lot of people have that. And without abilities.

Yeah, I've got that power. ;)

[samwinchestermustdie]

Originally posted by Randy G.
Ma Petrelli's power........ She likes to feel on other women. :eek: :lol:

Just kidding......... I think it's possibly the power of persuasion by touch.
Much like Eden's was persuasion by voice.
:lol: :lol: :lol: no nathan was in a hospital bed so angela needed to make up for nathan's patented shoulder rub.

i thought on "out of time" she was able to give back memories but now i think peter was just healing his mind so now i'm depressed because her power is still up in the air.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
A lot of people have that. And without abilities.

A lot of people are excellent at remembering stuff (a la Charlie), but we wouldn't assume them to be mutants or something.
Point is, there would be obviously something different about Ma Patrelli's type of persuasion compared to anyone else's.

[Matro]

Angela most likely has a power and it seems to be something like persuasion. Different than Eden's though, because it seems like Angela needs to be touching her target.

I'm almost certain that both of the Patrelli parents have/had powers. In all of the cases where we know both of an evolved human's parents, both of the parents have powers. I'm also almost certain that Angela is Hiro's mother.

Oh, and all of the group of twelve have powers also :)

[pycer]

It's been stated in the online comics, Papa Patrelli had no powers. The supposition that both parents have to have powers for the kid to is fairly rediculous as genetics just don't work that way. Hiro looks to be 100 percent japanese to me, I don't think theres any way Mama P could possibly be his Mama.

[Matro]

Where was it stated that he didn't have powers his whole life? I believe you are referring to the comic of Aurthur and Daniel in Vietnam. He may have not known that he had powers then, but that doesn't mean he didn't realize it later.

[pycer]

Originally posted by Matro
Where was it stated that he didn't have powers his whole life? I believe you are referring to the comic of Aurthur and Daniel in Vietnam. He may have not known that he had powers then, but that doesn't mean he didn't realize it later.

I'll give you that, it is possible he found his later on, particularly given the comment Linderman made about him. However, not all heroes have to be born from two heroes...if that were the case from whence would have come the first hero? Or the second? And if they were both male for instance, or if they just didn't happen to 'hook up' and make a baby then there would never have been any further heroes following your theory on it. Genetics just doesn't work that way.

[Sweetie]

Oh!I don't think Angela is Hiro's mother either.She has enough problems with her those 2 sons :D

Just because she had a romance with Hiro's father that doesn't mean that she is his mother.

[Matro]

Originally posted by pycer
However, not all heroes have to be born from two heroes...if that were the case from whence would have come the first hero? Or the second? And if they were both male for instance, or if they just didn't happen to 'hook up' and make a baby then there would never have been any further heroes following your theory on it. Genetics just doesn't work that way.

I don't think that has to be the case either. It just greatly increases the chances of the child having powers, possibly all the way to 100% chance.

I believe the group of twelve knew those chances and carried out instances of selective breeding, in order to carry on the evolution. This may be one of the "dark secrets" in the Petrelli family.

Hiro looking 100% japanese is Masi Oka's doing :)

[Coyote]

If the Hero gene is recessive, it would be possible for both Angela and Daddy Patrelli to have it and pass it on to their children without expressing any power themselves. The odds for Nathan and Peter to have a power in that case would be about 1 in 4 for each of them. So it's somewhat unlikely for both boys to have a power if both parents don't, but it's possible, assuming the powers are carried through the genome. (I don't think the blather about "genetic evolution" being responsible for these powers makes much real scientific sense, but that's not the question here)

That said, I still think Angela has a power, and it's probably a very well developed one. She hasn't shown it onscreen yet because there hasn't been any need for her to do that, and the writers are waiting for the right moment.

[pycer]

Perhaps she has shown it on screen, we just don't it yet.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Mello Penello is right, there is no physical evidence yet. BUT, she has constantly refferred to herself belonging to this group of evolved humans (they'll find out about us meaning a group containing both her and Parkman Jr.) And their just has to be a reason for the odd closeups in that scene in FMG.


My theory about her power is essentially the same as the original poster's. As for the group of 12, I think that 9 of them have powers, as the writers last season kept dropping hints that the number 9 was very important, told us that the Indian legend of the 9 was important, and the camera focussing on the nine of Maury's apartment. I'd like to think that Pa Petrelli has no power, due to the online comic mentioned, but admit that it doesn't rule out that he developed one in the future.

[flying_girl]

its impossible for ma petrelli to be hiro's mother. a teenager might be able to hide her pregnancy but a married adult women can not, especially with 2 sons home. they would know if their mother had another kid.

[Matro]

Originally posted by flying_girl
its impossible for ma petrelli to be hiro's mother. a teenager might be able to hide her pregnancy but a married adult women can not, especially with 2 sons home. they would know if their mother had another kid.

It could have been masked as a miscarriage or she could have taken a year long vacation. There are a few different ways it could have happened.

[pycer]

Give it up, there is just no way Mamma P is Hiro's mother, it's pretty ridiculous.

[Matro]

Originally posted by pycer
Give it up, there is just no way Mamma P is Hiro's mother, it's pretty ridiculous.

I really don't think it's ridiculous but I can understand how you could think that.

When Angela was being interrogated for Mr. Nakamura's death, she implied that they had a physical relationship in the past. Hiro's sister doesn't have power as far as we know and it has never been implied that she does. In the first season, when Mr. Nakamura was training Hiro with the sword, he said that he had been waiting a long time for one of his children to ascend. This means that this was a trait that he wanted to pass down his bloodline, he may have gone to Angela for help.

They were both in the group of twelve, formed to find others with power. Doesn't seem far fetched to me that they would go to great lengths to carry on this evolution.