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Ginx
11-12-2007, 07:52 PM
Survived all that end of the world stuff and gets shot like a punk outside a club fetching his wife - how lame is that.......I didn't like DL but still..... lame way to go out - would have been better if it had been tied to the end of the world - give the guy some dignity....

Merfish
11-12-2007, 08:02 PM
Gun to the chest by a stupid noob
Do you think its Niki's fault?

ajac
11-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Yup its nikis faught well not nikki but one of her personalities... to bad always the brother has to die to have a death on TV

pycer
11-12-2007, 08:14 PM
I was hoping he would die saving someone in a fire. Like maybe he couldn't get to them to phase them in time and so had to stay solid to block a falling beam or something like that...but no, he got an unfortunate and cheap death.

Not only that, but why didn't Nikki grab that punk and rip him to shreds afterwards? Or do you guys think that guy will show back up sometime? They sure spent a fair amount of time on his face.

Ginx
11-12-2007, 08:16 PM
hmmmm.... are my titles that off that someone keeps editing them covertly? Just curious......

warriorrenegade
11-12-2007, 08:17 PM
I know right. Nikki should've tore that guy to pieces...literally. She just fell out like "Oh Noooo!" *faints*.

Mello Penelo
11-12-2007, 08:17 PM
DL died like a b!tch. I'd have much rather him died in Linderman's building.

Ginx
11-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
I know right. Nikki should've tore that guy to pieces...literally. She just fell out like "Oh Noooo!" *faints*.

Well, they always did play that Niki wasn't 'strong enough' to handle the power so her personalities always handled it.

But I thought that would have been in the past now - since Niki overcame it and knocked Candice out (or did she) in Vol 1. Maybe it was all an illusion.....

warcam
11-12-2007, 08:24 PM
He definitely got the punk death treatment like Sylar did in the season finale. You remember Sylar. They were going to explain what happened to him as well. What a gip.

Hero66
11-12-2007, 08:26 PM
Sylar crawled away and wound up in a woodshed.

Mello Penelo
11-12-2007, 08:27 PM
Well, Isaac's painting showed Hiro stabbing Sylar.


Originally posted by Hero66
Sylar crawled away and wound up in a woodshed.

No, Candace got him.

Randy G.
11-12-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
hmmmm.... are my titles that off that someone keeps editing them covertly? Just curious......

No! :lol:
This was done to stop the chance of a ton of duplicate threads popping up about DL dying. I already merged one into your thread.


BTW..... Your mailbox is full Ginx!
R.G. ;)

warriorrenegade
11-12-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
DL died like a b!tch. I'd have much rather him died in Linderman's building.

Total ***** is right. DL was murdered by some one whos feelings got hurt. How lame is that? Atleast with Linderman he saved his wife and kid. Then took out Linderman in the process. Now thats a way to go.

frau_GTS
11-12-2007, 08:33 PM
VERY cheap death...
No problem with jail, fire, or Jessica's bullets...but hey, a thug face to face? Surprise surprise...uhum.

Hero66
11-12-2007, 08:34 PM
Not every character can get a great death. Sometimes as a writer, you have to kill a character to push the story forward as DL's clearly did.

By making Niki responsible for DL getting blown away, that forces her to take responsibility for herself and get treatment.

Ginx
11-12-2007, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Randy G.
No! :lol:
This was done to stop the chance of a ton of duplicate threads popping up about DL dying. I already merged one into your thread.


BTW..... Your mailbox is full Ginx!
R.G. ;)

ha! I knew it was you!! lol

And of course my mailbox is full - it's always full lol..... [smacks head] lol

Mello Penelo
11-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
And of course my mailbox is full - it's always full lol..... [smacks head] lol

Same here. I'm really getting tired of guys wanting to "get to know me."

Odysseus
11-12-2007, 08:43 PM
I agree, Nikki should have torn that punk to shreds.

HowardFilms
11-12-2007, 09:41 PM
Yeah...or DL should have phased the instant he saw a gun.

Seriously, he started out Season 1 with arguably the most control over his power (at least, of his generation) and he can't know to phase when he sees a gun? Last season Jessica had to snipe him. Now anyone with a handgun can surprise him.

Mr.Vanish
11-12-2007, 09:57 PM
Lamest death scene ever!

Alexander III
11-12-2007, 10:02 PM
The way DL dies is the dumbest sh!t I've ever seen. WUT THE FU@K was that? Who wrote this stupid Heroes script? Just kidding. But still, bad writing on DL's death!!

faz
11-12-2007, 10:21 PM
I was so pissed about that, it was the only low point of the whole thing for me. I can only hope there's a reason they didn't show DL actually dying, although it seems pretty clear that he's six feet under, so I don't know what that would be. I enjoyed all the stuff leading up to it, but that was just a terrible scene.

Mini Wolfsbane
11-13-2007, 12:14 AM
I was trying to guess how he died.

"Hmmm. Bob kills him since Jessica doesn't
agree for help?"

No.

"He dies in the line of duty."

No.

"Jessica's new personality kills him suddenly?"

No.

Then he gets axed by some ugly punk with a gun.
Sure it was lame, but at least none of us saw it coming.

Shame. I kinda sorta liked DL. Not a lot, but he was
more tolerable then Jessica.

Randy G.
11-13-2007, 12:21 AM
Though I'm not happy he died, I AM happy it wasn't predictable.
It was abrupt, & completely without warning, just like real death can sometimes be.
It caught me off guard. Especially the bloodspatter.

Xanderman
11-13-2007, 12:22 AM
Very lame death for DL, no question about that.

You'd think they'd come up with a more clever way for DL to die than something he could have easily avoided if he simply had his power turned on at the time, which of course he didn't because he got punked.

Why did they make him survive at first at all? His extended life didn't seem to serve any purpose at all. They could have at least fed him to Sylar, at least then his delicious power could live on in somebody besides Peter. lol

The way he died wasn't boring, but it also wasn't the smartest.

spicyblark
11-13-2007, 05:21 AM
It was a sad way to go...

Mrs.Bizzaro
11-13-2007, 07:48 AM
Someone mentioned before how the scene was shot - how they dont really show DL getting killed. Makes it a little suspicious as to whether he's really dead or alive somewhere hiding out. Maybe that organization (Bob) got to DL at the hospital and fixed it so Niki could think he's really dead. That way she'd be easier to manipulate.

On the other hand - it would be cool if Niki's powers included collecting personalities... like since DL died she inherited him somehow and he really is another one of her personalities and not just her imagining that he's there. That'd be something.

GuardianAngel
11-13-2007, 08:01 AM
I agree with you, Spicyblarck. A very sad and unpredictable way od dying. It caught everybody by surprise, Nikky too. The guy took the gun out so fast that DL didn't have the time to start phasing. And Nikki was way too shocked and high to beat the crap out of the killer.

A lot of people complain about the fact that DL didn't phase. It seemed obvious to me why he didn't. His mind or sixth sense (or whatever triggered his phasing ability when needed) didn't sense how dangerous the situation was, thus slowing down his reflexes. He did phase when the killer tried to punch him in the disco, because he was expecting it, but after that he lowered his guard because of talking to Nikki and thinking the guy wanted to punch him again. Unfortunately he was wrong...

taolbi
11-13-2007, 03:40 PM
yeah I agree it wasn't a very exciting way of dying


but DL's death was still full of meaning

and I really got the effect of it. I mean...he took the risk of running into a burning building to save a strangers child (even thought he could phase)

and he took the risk of going to some random club to get his wife. he himself understood what she or Jessica is capable of.

I think it was mainly over confidence

great day at work, your son idolizes you and you successful get your multi personality wife back without her throwing you into a wall

its a sad way to go after so much he's been through. Sad in terms of emotion, not in terms of how he died


but this is in my opinion.


I speculate niki couldnt do anything because she was drugged...wasn't she like...doing Coke or something? though coke is more of a stimulant..i guess there's a loophole

my 2cents

HowardFilms
11-13-2007, 05:49 PM
His extended life seemed to serve little purpose, except to introduce another lame personality...and I suppose explain why Nikki went to the Company...

Son of Kal-El20
11-13-2007, 05:52 PM
It was a very lame death. And it's all Nikki's fault.

Sweetie
11-13-2007, 05:56 PM
I was desespointed about his death aswell.What was the point for him to survive if it was to die from a gunshot again.He should have died from the fire after saving the child's life.he would have inhaled too much smoke.That would have been more heroic death....

Sub Snake
11-13-2007, 09:58 PM
That lame ass death served one purpose, to make Nikki want to go get treatment. Thats it.

flying_girl
11-14-2007, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by pycer
Not only that, but why didn't Nikki grab that punk and rip him to shreds afterwards? Or do you guys think that guy will show back up sometime? They sure spent a fair amount of time on his face.

is it possible that this is the same guy that stole claires car and got killed my sylar when he threatened to tell the police about maya and her brother?
i dont remember what he looked like but heroes really likes to reuse people

samwinchestermustdie
11-14-2007, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
Well, they always did play that Niki wasn't 'strong enough' to handle the power so her personalities always handled it.

But I thought that would have been in the past now - since Niki overcame it and knocked Candice out (or did she) in Vol 1. Maybe it was all an illusion.....
yeah but that should of been a breaking point. by the way also can not believe he went out like that. i liked dl last year and they make him go out like that they should have at least made him die by the hand of a hero.

kazek
11-15-2007, 03:15 AM
Haha. At first I thought he'd die in the fire or pass out from inhaling too much smoke which would have been ok (Heroic).... but he didn't. Then i thought that maybe at some point one of Nikki's personalities would kill him but again that didn't happen...

And then comes the unexpected. What a silly death. That wasn't worth hiding from us. They didn't even need to show us. They could have just said he died in a club and left it at that.


What's more awkward is the fact that DL didn't phase to avoid getting shot.. Doesn't he ever learn. I know that he probably thought the guy wouldn't shoot but why take chances and unless phasing is painful I don't see what he had to lose. That was poorly done. The whole club scene looked nothing like what Heroes has always presented

InLove_with_Chloe
11-15-2007, 03:18 AM
Actually, we didn't see him die, right?
That's quite suspicious, IMO. I am sure that has been mentioned before.

kazek
11-15-2007, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Actually, we didn't see him die, right?
That's quite suspicious, IMO. I am sure that has been mentioned before.

They probably didn't want to bore us with the same scene (Nikki holding him and telling him to hold on and blah blah...)

There was a burial. Am sure that's confirmation enough.

Mischael12
11-15-2007, 01:22 PM
Lol not really didn't we see Kensei's charred bones? Thoug I know his dead, not showing a death scene can indicate a lot.

Not only that though, i didn't see the episode but was there someone behind him when the guy shot at him?

RedPhoenix23
11-15-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
DL died like a b!tch. I'd have much rather him died in Linderman's building.

I don't know. I was always pissed off that annoying and in bad shape Matt took four to the chest that night and lived while the bad@ss DL only got shot once while taking out Linderman and died. At least this way, DL didn't die that night while Matt lived.

And............


Originally posted by Hero66
Not every character can get a great death. Sometimes as a writer, you have to kill a character to push the story forward as DL's clearly did.

By making Niki responsible for DL getting blown away, that forces her to take responsibility for herself and get treatment.

Yeah, that too. Only something as dramatic as DL dying because of her could get Niki away from Micah and into more of the main story arc of the company business. Otherwise, as much as I liked Niki last season, many peeps didn't because her storyline didn't have much to do with the bigger arc until near the end of the season. Kind of like the Wonder Twins this season.... but unlike Niki, I DON'T like them.

kazek
11-15-2007, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
I don't know. I was always pissed off that annoying and in bad shape Matt took four to the chest that night and lived while the bad@ss DL only got shot once while taking out Linderman and died. At least this way, DL didn't die that night while Matt lived.



Remember the bullets Matt took were thrust at him with TK rather than with an actual gun. Maybe Sylar's TK didn't fire the bullets with the same velocity they'd have if it was a gun. The bullets probably didn't go too deep where as in DL's case the gun was practically held at his chest and fired.

InLove_with_Chloe
11-16-2007, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by kazek
There was a burial. Am sure that's confirmation enough.
Well, if he survived, then he could easily walk out of his grave. Literally.

pycer
11-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well, if he survived, then he could easily walk out of his grave. Literally.

lol, can't wait to see that one

The Ninth Doctor
11-16-2007, 04:21 PM
Why didn't he phase? It was really hard to tell the way the scene was shot, but the guy pulled the gun out from behind him. DL never saw it coming.

Yes it was a senseless death. Yes it served no purpose. It was a tragic death. And you know what? We need that in fiction. Those of us who watch a lot of tv/ read comics with long time recurring characters that we get attached to expect their deaths to always come about through some final self-sacrifice that saves the world. But you know what? A lot of death in the real world isn't like that. It was tragic and it was realistic.

kazek
11-16-2007, 09:45 PM
You know what's weird is that there was no major reason for that guy to come up to DL and shoot him moreover in the open. Since when do you kill somebody for taking a girl you barely even know. All DL did was hit the punk once and that was it.
It wasn't that bad. Very unrealistic.

pycer
11-16-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by kazek
You know what's weird is that there was no major reason for that guy to come up to DL and shoot him moreover in the open. Since when do you kill somebody for taking a girl you barely even know. All DL did was hit the punk once and that was it.
It wasn't that bad. Very unrealistic.

In a world ruled by reasonable folks perhaps. Senseless violence happens every day.

Xanderman
11-17-2007, 01:23 AM
It was just a cheap death (repetitive too considering he was shot before but lived). So cheap in fact that part of me doubts he's actually dead. Maybe his death was faked, and that dude in the club was in on it? It just seemed really off for that guy to shoot a stranger dead over one altercation over a girl he just met, just as Kazek said above.

And again, what makes this being DL's death cheap is the fact that with his power he can avoid such attacks (when he sees it coming). Surprise attacks/cheap shots from nothing characters is no way to end a main character, especially one with a power as cool as DL's (granted the power still lives on in Peter, but still). Again, this all makes me doubt he's truly gone.


Personally I've always envisioned a far more noble end for DL....he falls asleep in the bathtub, and when he wakes up he's a permanent part of the toilet. And THEN he dies.:lol: (DL: "Micah, whatever you do, DON'T flush...uhhhh..." lol)

Another cool DL death would be during a bad dream. He phases in his sleep, falls down through his bed and wakes up somewhere deep in the earth's core. And then he dies. heh