Smallville DVD/Blu-ray Discussion (All Seasons)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Also, K-Site has a clip from the "Jimmy on Jimmy" featurette posted on the news page.

[origin]

season 7 dvd - 2 deleted scenes from Fierce are on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPmk-pD4_Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X_nuIPz***
^that one was completely pointless. sooo glad it got cut

Thanks for the clips:D

The first deleted scene most definitely should have been in the episode:mad:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Good news for those who ordered, or are planning on ordering, their DVD from Amazon.com. They've lowered the price by $2. It was $38.99, now it's $36.99. That's the price that S6 was when it was released.

[Johnny_Luck]

I love for more comentaries on the dvd, but they have overall been disappointing.The only worthy episode that had one done right was Spell. Thirst should have had one with Kristin, Chloe and Tom, rather than the bs we got, instead of splinter we should have got lexmas or reckoning.

season 6 should have had them on Promise, Labyrinth, and Phantom.

It be amazing if Action, Wrath and descent were to get them but that never happen.

[Lex Dance]

^^^^^ A JG and MR commentary on Descent would be fantastic! Such a shame the actors don't seem to have time to do them any more........

[Jephael]

season 6 should have had them on Promise, Labyrinth, and Phantom.

You forgot about "Justice". That one definitly should've had commentary!

[Johnny_Luck]

You forgot about "Justice". That one definitly should've had commentary!

Not really. Its good, but its one that didn't really deserve it as much as the others. Promise(the whole 6 season 3triple saga comments, Labyrinth which was the best ep from the season, one where they can talk about life without clark and MM, and Phantom for the end of arc, Bizarro and other stuff.

Justice wouldn't be bad but those three deserve it more.

[origin]

More commentaries would be nice, but I really miss the blooper/gag reel.

[Lex Dance]

Promise(the whole 6 season 3triple saga comments, Labyrinth which was the best ep from the season, one where they can talk about life without clark and MM
Labyrinth is a personal favourite of mine for the very reason that I think it tells us a lot about how the writers and producers really feel about particular characters, so I'd love to hear their take on it!
Promise too was an excellent episode - it contains one of my favourite scenes of the entire series where Lionel slaps Lex and then welcomes Lana to the family. A cast commentary would be superb.

Out of interest, could someone please remind me which commentaries are going to be on the DVD (assuming there are any)?

[Clark/Lois-fan]

AlMiles, John Glover & Justin Hartley will be doing the commentaries. I don't know for which episodes..

[newbaggy]

Labyrinth is a personal favourite of mine for the very reason that I think it tells us a lot about how the writers and producers really feel about particular characters, so I'd love to hear their take on it!
Promise too was an excellent episode - it contains one of my favourite scenes of the entire series where Lionel slaps Lex and then welcomes Lana to the family. A cast commentary would be superb.

Out of interest, could someone please remind me which commentaries are going to be on the DVD (assuming there are any)?

According to Smallville Wikia, it's "Persona" and "Siren". Not bad choices, but as can already be seen from this thread, not necessarily everyone'd first choices.

By the way, having noticed that - once again - we have at least one deleted scene that really should have been in the finished episode (Chloe's reunion with "back from the dead" Lana), it would be nice if we had a "Director's Cut" option to view episodes with at least some of the deleted scenes reinstated. Admittedly, it would mean that the episodes would look a bit rough in places: footage not digitally graded, no incidental music, captions replacing inserts that hadn't been shot (the sort of stuff you see on deleted scenes currently). However, it would give a chance to see what the stories would have been like before any edits made for timing reasons. In some cases, it might give a whole new perspective on an episode.

[Lex Dance]

^^^^^^ Hey newbaggy - long time no "see"!
Thanks for the info. Persona and Siren aren't two episodes that would immediately spring to mind but at least it's better than last year's showing! I've still yet to see the entire season (I'm ploughing the lonely furrow that is E4), but going by what I know about S7 my choices for commentaries would be Veritas, Descent and Apocalypse.

[Johnny_Luck]

According to Smallville Wikia, it's "Persona" and "Siren". Not bad choices, but as can already be seen from this thread, not necessarily everyone'd first choices.


which was my point, siren has no reason whatsoever over other bigger and actually good episodes to get commentary and Persona wasn't that impressive to begin with either.

they has a history of the smaller, eps with some of the least impact being the ones that get them, which I find odd and kinda messed up.

[Spirit Detective]

Does anyone know if Best Buy is doing a store exclusive for Season 7 like they've done in the past?

[KSiteTV]

I sure hope not. I really hate store exclusives - even if last year it was a smaller version of one of my books.

As for the commentaries, as I originally posted here on K-Site - it's "Persona" with John Glover, Todd Slavkin, and Ken Horton and "Siren" with Alfred Gough, Miles Millar, Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, and Justin Hartley.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1845767152/gijoevid <-- And a reminder to order the S7 DVD through this link and support KryptonSite! :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Can't someone please change the poll?

Craig, will the link on the news post to the Blu-Ray version support the site too?

[Jaderoyale]

I wish for S7 that TW and MR were on a commentary.
I would have loved to have heard them both on Descent and/or Apocalypse.

[Vergon6]

I totally understand you! I live in Chicago too and I experienced this in April when the new episodes started airing again. The screen was cut off and the closed caption was flickering.
However, when I watched Sleeper yesterday, it was in widescreen. Nothing was cut off. I'm glad it won't affect the viewing of season 8!
They ended up showing "Apocalypse" at the Cubs/Reds game and the local news the other night. You must have got lucky with "Sleeper" because I saw "Apocalypse" in full screen. I know it's not my TV, because I have seen other shows in wide-screen format recently.

[bizzaroboy9]

They ended up showing "Apocalypse" at the Cubs/Reds game and the local news the other night. You must have got lucky with "Sleeper" because I saw "Apocalypse" in full screen. I know it's not my TV, because I have seen other shows in wide-screen format recently.

yeah when i saw sleeper it was in widescreen and same with you when they showed apocalypse in fullscreen, it was so big the image was cut off! and the closed caption was messed up! what the hell?

[Vergon6]

I know. It makes no sense.

[MBrittan]

I really hate store exclusives

Why? How is free stuff ever a bad thing?
-M-

[tarrow21]

Why? How is free stuff ever a bad thing?
-M-

Cuz if you pre-ordered, you'll be like 'DARN! Now I wish I bought it at Best Buy!"

That's what happened to me last year. But I personally love the idea of store exclusives. Just don't pre-order the DVDs and you can shop around for the best deal with the best exclusive :)

[MBrittan]

Cuz if you pre-ordered, you'll be like 'DARN! Now I wish I bought it at Best Buy!"

That's what happened to me last year. But I personally love the idea of store exclusives. Just don't pre-order the DVDs and you can shop around for the best deal with the best exclusive :)

Ohhh, I got it. I don't preorder. Two reasons. First, there's never a shortage. Best Buy never "runs out" of Smallville box sets. And second, I've ordered DVDs through the mail before and had the disks come loose inside the case and get all scratched up. That's a pet peeve of mine...
-M-

[superhippie2000]

Why? How is free stuff ever a bad thing?
-M-
its not, just when you have a site and the only way you get paid for running the site is through banner ads and buying stuff through the site. so if the exclusive stuff makes people buy in stores or at their websites then sites like this who use amazon to get some support to run the site wont be getting as much. or something lol. plus sometimes the freebies are really good and some people either cant buy from those places or get it from somewhere else then they feel left out when everyone is talking about what they dont have. I love freebies tho lol. wonder if smallville will have any. supernatural comes with a free impala at best buy. would be cool if smallville ame with something that awesome lol.

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Ohhh, I got it. I don't preorder. Two reasons. First, there's never a shortage. Best Buy never "runs out" of Smallville box sets. And second, I've ordered DVDs through the mail before and had the disks come loose inside the case and get all scratched up. That's a pet peeve of mine...
-M-
i hate loose discs they are always a pain and i hate the scratches. you get scratches even tho they are perfect inside the case. lucky for me that they all still work in my dvd player.

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Cuz if you pre-ordered, you'll be like 'DARN! Now I wish I bought it at Best Buy!"

That's what happened to me last year. But I personally love the idea of store exclusives. Just don't pre-order the DVDs and you can shop around for the best deal with the best exclusive :)
last year with the book that came with it they didnt even put those copies out so i couldnt get it :(. they were out a week later tho errrrrrrrr. lol. but if people are going to buy online they should really do it through the site to help it out a bit.

[Lex Dance]

Apologies if this has been asked recently, but is there a release date for the S7 DVD in Region 2 (or perhaps more specifically, the UK)?

[newbaggy]

Apologies if this has been asked recently, but is there a release date for the S7 DVD in Region 2 (or perhaps more specifically, the UK)?

I think Amazon have it down as October 13, so this time around the DVD won't come out before the last episode is shown on E4!

Note: for the benefit of non-UK viewers, E4 - the channel that first broadcasts Smallville episodes in the UK - decided to start showing season 6 in July 2007. This meant that the DVD release in October of that year occurred with several episodes yet to be transmitted. Evidence of this can be found on the S6 episode threads - there were UK opinion threads that appeared during that season's showing on E4, but the postings dried up after the DVD release as people watched the rest of the season on DVD.

[Lex Dance]

I think Amazon have it down as October 13, so this time around the DVD won't come out before the last episode is shown on E4!
Thank you, newbaggy.

there were UK opinion threads that appeared during that season's showing on E4, but the postings dried up after the DVD release as people watched the rest of the season on DVD.
Yeah that killed those threads. And I guess the majority of those posters had alternative means of watching S7 because the UK episodes threads have been non-existent. :\

[maddib]

E4 treats Smallville the same way as I take it the CW does with a lack of promotion. They reckon we'd rather watch Big Brother or some other rubbish reality show. I remember the first few seasons being shown on C4/E4 in January, now we have to wait until mid-late summer. I'll have my region 1 disks well before the final episode I reckon, cant wait to see Apocolypse again...

[Ray Man]

I'd get it if I had a job *sighs*

[shy175223]

can you believe it, next week season7 will be arriving next Tuesday, that's one week before the season preimere.

[MBrittan]

can you believe it, next week season7 will be arriving next Tuesday, that's one week before the season preimere.

I'm pumped!
-M-

[zodfan]

my moms will hook me up i keep track of all my
seasons have 1-6 on dvd no. 7 next.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I got the first 6 seasons on DVD, and I'm gonna continue to get the DVD's, so lets see, I'm going to get Season 7, 8 and the mostly likely Season 9.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Already ordered S7 just waiting for it. YAY :D Have season 1-6 on dvd

[Xanderman]

I have Seasons 1-4 on dvd
Seasons 5 and 6 on hd-dvd
and Season 7 I will be gettin on blu-ray...

TV-on-BDs I'm finding to be quite overpriced though....the biggest ripoff is Prison Break Season 3....it's a strike shortened season but still they're charging a lot. Greedy sons of Ostroffs...lol

One of the best tv-on-blu deals is Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 1, so I highly recommend that. Great show, fair price.

[Smallville6]

I had all the seasons on DVD. But then someone stole my season 1, 3 and 5 DVDs and I've only re-baught the 3rd and 5th. So the only one I'm missing is the 1st season. And my b-day is the 16th (2 days before Oddyssy :D) So I'll probably get the 7th season for my birthday!

[6-Super-Man -5]

I had all the seasons on DVD. But then someone stole my season 1, 3 and 5 DVDs and I've only re-baught the 3rd and 5th. So the only one I'm missing is the 1st season. And my b-day is the 16th (2 days before Oddyssy :D) So I'll probably get the 7th season for my birthday!

Thats sad, I can not wait until this DVD comes out, and HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY SHELLY!

[MBrittan]

I think pretty much EVERYBODY here has all of the seasons on DVD...

[superhippie2000]

one week to go. yay

[ClarkyBoy14]

I can't wait to get S7 next week ! :D

[yoxodo]

Is anyone else jonesing for the rest of the series on blu-ray like I am? Season 6 is out now and anyone who hasn't seen it- well, take my word for it, Chloe's eyes never looked more sparkling. The 7th season is coming next week, but there's still no news on years 1-5.

[Kent85]

Hi everyone, I received the Blu-ray box set today and thought I'd post pics for everyone who will shortly be getting their's but can't wait any longer to see what the contents are like! Please find an assortment of pics showing packaging, discs, booklet and comparison to the season 6 box set. Enjoy :)

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[smallv17]

Thank you so much Kent 85! You're so lucky to have this! thank you for posting these pictures.

I'd love to see the dvd intro! is it cool?

[Kent85]

Unfortunately, the DVD upstages the Blu-ray by having the intro :(

With the high-def discs, there is no intro menu, the episodes just start playing straight away as soon as the disc loads. There is of course the pop-up menu, where you can change episode or watch special features, but not having the initial menu means we don't get the fab little collage of s7 highlights that the DVD set gets.

But then, the High def discs get the "Previously on Smallville" bit on the season premiere's, whereas I heard the DVDs skipped them (anyone confirm?). Also... 7 episodes a disc man!! (6 on the last one).

[Routh]

Whoa. Can we get a better picture of the last page of the booklet (the comic book looking one) Kent85? That's rad.

EDIT: Hmm. I thought the third girl was Lois, but then I realized this is a non-released version of the title card for Smallville Visions, meaning that it's Kara. It also explains Pete's presence.

[MBrittan]

I thought this came out next Tuesday...

[superhippie2000]

it does just sometimes stores ship things out a bit to early. they ship it out like a week before so it arrives on the release day or around but guessing where they got it sent it out like 2 weeks too early. they probably should have shipped it today or something to get it by tuesday. i know sometimes when you pre order stuff it can come the monday before it comes out but not usually this early.

[Atomic girl]

Hi everyone, I received the Blu-ray box set today and thought I'd post pics for everyone who will shortly be getting their's but can't wait any longer to see what the contents are like! Please find an assortment of pics showing packaging, discs, booklet and comparison to the season 6 box set. Enjoy :)
Did you pre-order with Amazon? I'm so jealous.....and did you pay more for faster shipping? I'm wondering if that makes a difference. Last year I pre-ordered and Amazon sent it out 2 weeks later. I know they were having problems with the Blu-rays, but someone on here ordered theirs after it came out and they got it before I did, and I pre-ordered. So I was going to see if I could just get it cheaper next week through some retailer, we have enough of them here....

[Estro-gen X]

Can someone tell me how long the supergirl featurette is and who is interviewed on it. How does it compare to the excellent green arrow one last year?

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you know what that reminds me of?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/Ultimate_Superman.jpg

Ultimate Superman!
I think its clark, lois and kara down the side

[superhippie2000]

read the review on the main page. sounds pretty good although some of the things not on the disc is pretty sad. wasnt lana usually on disc 2? well glad lex is on disc 2 now lol. also glad lionel gets his own disc where everyone else pretty much has to share one lol.

[Estro-gen X]

read the review on the main page. sounds pretty good although some of the things not on the disc is pretty sad. wasnt lana usually on disc 2? well glad lex is on disc 2 now lol. also glad lionel gets his own disc where everyone else pretty much has to share one lol.

I did but it glossed over the kara doc part and gave very few details.



Anyone else here in the UK that has to wait until October or even later for the price to fall?

[clark595]

what is (are) the Arctic unaired scene please?

[Jory]

Can someone tell me how long the supergirl featurette is and who is interviewed on it. How does it compare to the excellent green arrow one last year?

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you know what that reminds me of?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/Ultimate_Superman.jpg

Ultimate Superman!
I think its clark, lois and kara down the side

In the Smallville one, the characters are: Jimmy, Kara, Chloe, Lana, Pete on the left side; Clark in the middle/front, and Lex on the right, behind Clark. This was a tie-in for the episod e"Hero." When they did the comic book style promotion.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I can't wait! It looks so Cool! I pre-ordered mine from Amazon,
free shipping, not blu-ray. I'll let you know when I get it.
I'm not expecting it before the 9th. They'll let me know when they ship.

[ZODisGOD]

i'm really pumped for the s7 dvd release, and more excited for the new season the week after. I wish they would have put the original Veritas episode on there. It would definitely turn out better than the alternative one aired on TV. Plus this season is a few episodes short, so there would be room to fill 40+ more minutes on DVD or putting it on a separate bonus disc.

[superhippie2000]

ya i would have liked to have seen the alternate finale.

[Lex Dance]

Anyone else here in the UK that has to wait until October or even later for the price to fall?
I'm one of those! Actually, just like last year, I'll wait until it's finished airing on E4. I like the masochistic weekly wait between episodes! :lol:
By the time that's happened and the price has come down, my wife ends up buying it for me as a Christmas present. :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Thanks for all the pictures! It sucks that all the discs on the BRD version have the same art, and that there isn't a menu, glad to hear we get the recaps though.

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I have Seasons 1-4 on dvd
Seasons 5 and 6 on hd-dvd
and Season 7 I will be gettin on blu-ray...

TV-on-BDs I'm finding to be quite overpriced though....the biggest ripoff is Prison Break Season 3....it's a strike shortened season but still they're charging a lot. Greedy sons of Ostroffs...lol

I agree with you there. I especially dislike that WHV isn't even giving the BRD version any extra features.

[Xanderman]

Thanks for all the pictures! It sucks that all the discs on the BRD version have the same art, and that there isn't a menu, glad to hear we get the recaps though.

I agree with you there. I especially dislike that WHV isn't even giving the BRD version any extra features.That all really really sucks...I mean you pay a lot more so you expect to get more, right? Not only do we not get more sometimes with high def sets, in many ways it seems we actually get LESS than their dvd counterparts. It reminds me of the Smallville hd-dvds I have. Sure the picture quality is better and there are a couple of exclusive extras, like PIP commentary etc., but at the same time you get less box art, and NO animated main menu. Which really sucks to me. I can't believe bluray is doing the same...is it really so hard to include the menu? The first episode on the disc can start playing when you insert the discs, fine, but I'd like to be able to click a home or main menu button to see the animated menu with music etc. Without it, it feels like we're missing out--and yet we paid more? Huh? Not only that, but with all hd-dvds (at least with my toshiba player), if you press Stop the whole disc starts again from the beginning. You have to always remember to make sure to only press Pause (which is pretty stupid). And now recently I got a PS3 (mainly for bluray), and it does the same thing! What the hell...they can't figure out how to make high def players store "stop" points or whatever like dvds do? Why do they have to reset? Aren't hd-dvd/blu-ray supposed to be superior?? I really don't get it.

Anyway rant over, sorry guys. This stuff just pisses me off because high def burns deeper holes in our wallets, and yet outside of picture quality and PIP features, it's hardly superior to DVD at all.

[Atomic girl]

Well Xander I had to comment on the PS3 thing. My PS3 will remember where I stopped on several discs at a time (Blu ray only, not normal DVDs). For example, I watch each episode again before I let my kids see it to make sure that everything is OK, or I figure out where I will edit the episode. So I try to stay ahead of my kids, so I can be on disc 3, while they are in the middle of disc 2. When they put in disc 2, after I was previewing disc 3, it starts up again where we left off, and then when I go back to previewing on disc 3, it remembers that as well. I have the 60GB PS3 which is the only one backwards compatible (plays PS2 games). Maybe that's the reason, I don't know, but if so, then it makes me doubly glad I spent a bit more to buy it.

I totally get what you are saying about the main menu being absent on the Blu rays. I never thought I would miss the intro, but I do...... On the season 6 Blu rays, we didn't have the preview for Justice or whatever that cartoon movie was, I felt really cheated without that. I don't feel bad without extras so much as I don't like things being left out. I know the Blu rays are higher def and in that sense we are getting "more", but all the content from a normal DVD should make it on to the Blu ray version. If they want to add more after that, then I'm all for that.

Part of me thinks that WHV is trying to get us to buy both sets, which isn't happening in my house. (Supernatural season 3 came out on DVD on Tuesday, but the Blu ray set won't be available until November 11th, which we are waiting for... I'm hoping that in this case they just weren't geared up for Blu ray and that explains the delay. Season 5 Smallville was only available in HD-DVD and then last year was released in both hi-def formats, I'm wondering if Supernatural isn't a victim to that sort of thing..i.e. they were planning on HD, but Blu won...)

[Supermania]

I just wanted to say that Season 2's Memoria commentary is so damn funny! I like Michael's comments about the 'Chicken Scwatch' and that they left the guy in the hospital bed whilst they went off for lunch.

[Lex Dance]

^^^^^It's a great commentary, but it's actually for Rosetta. I'm surprised Xanderman didn't mention that already - he watches the commentary for Memoria all the time. ;)

[Xanderman]

Well Xander I had to comment on the PS3 thing. My PS3 will remember where I stopped on several discs at a time (Blu ray only, not normal DVDs). For example, I watch each episode again before I let my kids see it to make sure that everything is OK, or I figure out where I will edit the episode. So I try to stay ahead of my kids, so I can be on disc 3, while they are in the middle of disc 2. When they put in disc 2, after I was previewing disc 3, it starts up again where we left off, and then when I go back to previewing on disc 3, it remembers that as well. I have the 60MG PS3 which is the only one backwards compatible (plays PS2 games). Maybe that's the reason, I don't know, but if so, then it makes me doubly glad I spent a bit more to buy it. Really eh? That sounds pretty cool, more "computer" like (which is what I would expect for high def players). Hmmm, I haven't really played around with it that much, just got it pretty recently. It's the 80gb model, which is apparently backwards compatible as well...(supposedly it's the last model to be back-comp, future models won't be--why they're doing that I don't know). Plus I'm using the game controller as a remote, which feels kind of goofy to tell you the truth, lol. Did you buy a separate remote or are you just using a game controller? Does it matter? Is there anything the separate specialized remote can do that can't be done with the game cont? Anyway the only BD I have right now is Heroes Season 2, and I've only seen a few eps. I guess I need to experiment more to figure out what it can do...as I said my now obsolete toshiba hd-dvd player didn't do "stops", or "skips" actually now that I think about it...I think I always have to wait for the company/logo screens with hd-dvd…. But I've noticed I can indeed skip these screens on the Heroes BD, which is definitely nice.

As for the PQ of Heroes S2 on Blu, I'm noticing quite a bit of grain in some scenes. Now, I don't know if it's blu-ray in general or just a PS3 thing, but I'm pretty sure my Heroes S1 on hd-dvd looked cleaner...hmmm I'll need to check it again...


I totally get what you are saying about the main menu being absent on the Blu rays. I never thought I would miss the intro, but I do...... On the season 6 Blu rays, we didn't have the preview for Justice or whatever that cartoon movie was, I felt really cheated without that. I don't feel bad without extras so much as I don't like things being left out. I know the Blu rays are higher def and in that sense we are getting "more", but all the content from a normal DVD should make it on to the Blu ray version. If they want to add more after that, then I'm all for that.That is my #1 beef with high def, the loss of main menu/title screens. #2 is less box art. Saving space is nice, but when you're paying a lot more, I for one would rather have the complete package. I have Star Trek: TOS S1 on hd-dvd, but it's a hd-dvd/dvd "combo" format. What sucks with these is that the discs are double-sided, so there's no disc art. Couple this with terrible packaging to boot. But what's REALLY dumb is that a lot of the extras are only on the dvd side. This means I have to flip the disc and reload it just to see these extras, when they could have EASILY been fit onto the hd side as well. So stupid, so frustrating... lol (is it really that hard to do these things right?)



Part of me thinks that WHV is trying to get us to buy both sets, which isn't happening in my house. (Supernatural season 3 came out on DVD on Tuesday, but the Blu ray set won't be available until November 11th, which we are waiting for... I'm hoping that in this case they just weren't geared up for Blu ray and that explains the delay. Season 5 Smallville was only available in HD-DVD and then last year was released in both hi-def formats, I'm wondering if Supernatural isn't a victim to that sort of thing..i.e. they were planning on HD, but Blu won...)You might be right, maybe they weren't planning on blu so now they're behind...I'm also waiting for the BD version for SN to come out. Which sucks since I wanted to watch SN normally this season, but now I can't. Oh well, that's going to continue to be a "dvd only" show for me I guess...


^^^^^It's a great commentary, but it's actually for Rosetta. I'm surprised Xanderman didn't mention that already - he watches the commentary for Memoria all the time. ;)Must.....not....bite......Must.....not......bite ! ;) :lol:

[ClarkyBoy14]

That all really really sucks...I mean you pay a lot more so you expect to get more, right? Not only do we not get more sometimes with high def sets, in many ways it seems we actually get LESS than their dvd counterparts. It reminds me of the Smallville hd-dvds I have. Sure the picture quality is better and there are a couple of exclusive extras, like PIP commentary etc., but at the same time you get less box art, and NO animated main menu. Which really sucks to me. I can't believe bluray is doing the same...is it really so hard to include the menu? The first episode on the disc can start playing when you insert the discs, fine, but I'd like to be able to click a home or main menu button to see the animated menu with music etc. Without it, it feels like we're missing out--and yet we paid more? Huh? Not only that, but with all hd-dvds (at least with my toshiba player), if you press Stop the whole disc starts again from the beginning. You have to always remember to make sure to only press Pause (which is pretty stupid). And now recently I got a PS3 (mainly for bluray), and it does the same thing! What the hell...they can't figure out how to make high def players store "stop" points or whatever like dvds do? Why do they have to reset? Aren't hd-dvd/blu-ray supposed to be superior?? I really don't get it.

Anyway rant over, sorry guys. This stuff just pisses me off because high def burns deeper holes in our wallets, and yet outside of picture quality and PIP features, it's hardly superior to DVD at all.

When I read on here awhile back that the SV BR version didn't have menus, I figured it was a new, "genious" idea for all the Blu-Rays, but I've bought and rented a few movies, and they all have menus, so I have no clue why WHV skimped with SV. Do other WHV TV sets have menus? It's especially frustrating, because I never use the "Play All" option, I always go to the episode menu, so this is going to take a while to get used to. It seems like WHV would want to make the more expensive one better than the cheaper one.

I have the 80GB PS3 like you do. Did you get the MGS4 bundle?

[Atomic girl]

Hey Xander, my kids inform me that the PS3 will also keep places on regular DVDs, so I guess I was wrong about that. We bought the Blu-ray DVD remote for the PS3. It has all the functions of a "regular" remote except it has bluetooth so you can be anywhere in the room to use it. I'm not sure how it lines up with the controller. My understanding is that everything is available on the controller but maybe less convenient to use. I can't confirm that though, since I've never tried to use the controller to play Blu rays. It looks to me that there are a lot more buttons on the remote and therefore you should be able to do more. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one waiting for the Blu Supernatural discs. But I really want to see them. I only got into Supernatural mid season, and I don't think I've seen all this season, so I feel like I will be missing out before the start of the new season. I guess I have enough knowledge. Where are you planning on getting the Blus for SN and SV? I've noticed that all the grainy shots on SV seem to be low light situations, just like a film camera. I think it's a matter of how it's shot, not how it's played.

And Andrew the only season Blus I have are Smallville, so I can't compare starting menus, but yes movies have starting menus just like normal DVDs.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Thanks, Atomic girl. I wonder why WHV feels the need to omit the menus. Perhaps if enough people complain, it will be changed for S8.

[superhippie2000]

only a couple of days till its out cant wait.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yay! Amazon shipped my pre-ordered S7 dvd today!

I'll probably get it Wed or Thurs.:)

[ClarkyBoy14]

^Which shipping speed did you choose? Because mine hasn't shipped yet...

Craig, cover your eyes! :p

Best Buy is giving away a "FREE exclusive Visions comic book included with purchase of Smallville." It must be the Pete comic. Also, they list the premiere date for S8, which is nice. I hope the CW paid for that.

Target is giving away a $5 giftcard, but the DVD is $40.

[superhippie2000]

thats a pretty cool freebie but those who want the blu ray (not me) have to send in a form for their free comic book.

[Atomic girl]

^Which shipping speed did you choose? Because mine hasn't shipped yet...
To answer the shipping question...
I can't wait! It looks so Cool! I pre-ordered mine from Amazon,
free shipping, not blu-ray. I'll let you know when I get it.
I'm not expecting it before the 9th. They'll let me know when they ship.

[MBrittan]

"Visions" is a Smallville comic? New? They had a series of Smallville comics a few years back and I have the full run (which was less than 20 issues). But the one that comes free at Best Buy is a new story? Not available in comic shops?
-M-

[ClarkyBoy14]

To answer the shipping question...

Ah, thanks. I guess I should pay more attention.

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"Visions" is a Smallville comic? New? They had a series of Smallville comics a few years back and I have the full run (which was less than 20 issues). But the one that comes free at Best Buy is a new story? Not available in comic shops?
-M-

One of the S7 special features is a digital comic book that features Pete. I'm guessing this is the same thing, in physical form. I could be wrong, though.

[yoxodo]

1 more day till S7 blu-ray. I can understand how a lot of ppl are upset over the lack of menus on BD, but for me the picture quality completely makes up for that little transgression. I'm not crazy about how some DVD's look on an HD screen.

[badwolf]

I'm still behind on my Smallville DVD's because I'm a broke teenager so I won't be getting season 7 right away. I'm going to be one of those crazies that goes to Best Buy the day after Thanksgiving to see if it's on sale for $20.00.

But just a heads up, I went to my local Target today and they still have all 6 seasons of Smallville for $18.99 a piece. That's a huge deal if you ask me!

[superhippie2000]

yay comes out tommorow. :D

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I'm still behind on my Smallville DVD's because I'm a broke teenager so I won't be getting season 7 right away. I'm going to be one of those crazies that goes to Best Buy the day after Thanksgiving to see if it's on sale for $20.00.

But just a heads up, I went to my local Target today and they still have all 6 seasons of Smallville for $18.99 a piece. That's a huge deal if you ask me!
not sure but i think i saw the first 5 seasons of smallville maybe the 6th season too are like 25 bucks at best buy.

[RedKalEL]

i can't wait i flipped out yesterday when i saw ito n the shelf at circuit city but the lady wouldn't let me buy it!

[badwolf]

i can't wait i flipped out yesterday when i saw ito n the shelf at circuit city but the lady wouldn't let me buy it!

That's odd. I've worked in retail, and if it's on the shelfs they have to give it to you. I remember when the Buffy seasons were still coming out and the Wal-Mart by me, would always put them out a week earlier so I would snatch it up then.

[superhippie2000]

they probably didnt let you buy because they could get in trouble if they sell it early. last year stores sold Heroes Season 1, South Park season 10, Supernatural season 2, and others like a week or 2 early and those stores were getting sued. i think tho if they put them on the shelves instead of saying you cant buy they should have just removed them from the shelves.

[SparkleforSmallville]

To answer the shipping question...

Thanks Nat, for helping CB14, you saved me some typing:lol:
Yeah, I got free shipping, and not blu-ray.

I had Texas company this weekend and wasn't on Ksite EEK!
I really missed Y'all:)

[yoxodo]

Exactly 21 hours and 38 minutes until Best Buy starts selling S7 on blu-ray, and I hear there are even commentaries this time around as opposed to the S6 collection. Can't wait to see more of sweet little Chloe in full HD.

[Xanderman]

When I read on here awhile back that the SV BR version didn't have menus, I figured it was a new, "genious" idea for all the Blu-RaysLol I thought the exact same thing when the same was announced way back when for the Season 5 hd-dvd. But then I got it and I immediately noticed and missed not having the menu. I mean who cares about the pop-up ability, it's not THAT much more convenient, it's not THAT cool, lol...I mean people who watch videos on their computers experience those kinds of features/abilities all the time so who cares. Certainly not worth losing out on the main menu.


Do other WHV TV sets have menus? It's especially frustrating, because I never use the "Play All" option, I always go to the episode menu, so this is going to take a while to get used to. It seems like WHV would want to make the more expensive one better than the cheaper one.I'm not sure about other WHV sets...hmmm. But I have hd-dvd movies that have main menus (however some are just like the Smallville crap...I wonder if they're all Warner movies). My Heroes S1 Hd-dvd has a main menu, however it's not as nice as the dvd version. I have Heroes S2 on Blu, and the menus/popups are identical to the S1 hd-dvd (it's a Universal thing...they have a similar style with their movies). I checked out my brother's Heroes S2 on regular dvd and the title screens/menu animations are cooler. Which again sucks since I paid more. Back to Smallville on high def, besides not having the play all feature, another dumb thing is how the 1st episode on the disc plays. This is fine when you're "on" that episode, but after you've seen it, it's really annoying for it to start playing again and again and again when you're trying to watch the other eps on the disc. Very stupid. They should have made it more like Heroes.


I have the 80GB PS3 like you do. Did you get the MGS4 bundle?Yeah that's what I got. It just came out last June I've read, I got it a few weeks ago. Apparently it's been selling out everywhere or something, possibly connected to it apparently been the last model to be backwards compatible--which is stupid. Maybe Sony wants to phase out its older systems and games or something... This is my first video game system in years, I'm not really a gamer. My last system was Playstation 1. I got PS3 mainly for bluray since my stupid toshiba hd-dvd player is obsolete now. However I have to say, so far, bluray quality seems inferior, which is a real shame. Not sure if it's just the ps3's player that's inferior though, or bluray in general... As for MGS4, man what a great game. Best game I've ever played, but I'm no gamer so that might not be saying much. The only thing I don't like is how it always has to do new installations for each level. And if you want to revisit something you saved from a previous level, the entire level has to get installed again first. Annoying, but I guess it's necessary to save space on the drive eh...


Hey Xander, my kids inform me that the PS3 will also keep places on regular DVDs, so I guess I was wrong about that. You mean PS3 will "only" not "also" here, right? lol... Anyway I've re-checked and PS3 resets my Heroes discs if I press Stop. I have to Pause. There is no memory/saving/check points as how dvd discs are handled, just like my toshiba hd-dvd player. I guess it's a "high def" technology limitation, for now anyway....might have something to do with the codecs that are used for highdef perhaps, don't know...or maybe it has to do with the "size" of the information on highdef discs (which is larger)...hmm no idea. But yeah, regular dvds seem to work in just the same way on high def players as they do on regular players.


We bought the Blu-ray DVD remote for the PS3. It has all the functions of a "regular" remote except it has bluetooth so you can be anywhere in the room to use it. I'm not sure how it lines up with the controller. My understanding is that everything is available on the controller but maybe less convenient to use. I can't confirm that though, since I've never tried to use the controller to play Blu rays. It looks to me that there are a lot more buttons on the remote and therefore you should be able to do more.My 80gb MSG4 bundle came with a wireless dual shock game controller, so I can use it anywhere in the room too. I have to say it's supremely awesome to have this wireless control ability...gotta love it. I think you're right, the game controller can probably do the same stuff but it's less convenient. You can bring up an onscreen popup menu of more function buttons with the Triangle button on the controller. But you need to navigate to the buttons one by one with left/right/up/down to select them, which obviously makes it more of a hassle. After I have more BD movies/shows (I only have heroes s2 so far) I'll probably go ahead and buy the remote...but really, they should have included it with the system...anything to rake in more money from consumers I guess.


Where are you planning on getting the Blus for SN and SV? Probably amazon. You?


I've noticed that all the grainy shots on SV seem to be low light situations, just like a film camera. I think it's a matter of how it's shot, not how it's played.The grain is probably just less noticeable in bright scenes but I think it's still there. I'm seeing the same stuff with my Heroes S2 on Blu -- grainy dark scenes. Annoying....I haven't had a chance to check out my heroes hd-dvd again to compare, but I don't remember there being this much grain. Again, I don't know if it's just the PS3 bluray player that's bad or if it's bluray in general....but so far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.

[Atomic girl]

Yeah that's what I got. It just came out last June I've read, I got it a few weeks ago. Apparently it's been selling out everywhere or something, possibly connected to it apparently been the last model to be backwards compatible--which is stupid. Maybe Sony wants to phase out its older systems and games or something... This is my first video game system in years, I'm not really a gamer. My last system was Playstation 1. I got PS3 mainly for bluray since my stupid toshiba hd-dvd player is obsolete now. However I have to say, so far, bluray quality seems inferior, which is a real shame. Not sure if it's just the ps3's player that's inferior though, or bluray in general... As for MGS4, man what a great game. Best game I've ever played, but I'm no gamer so that might not be saying much. The only thing I don't like is how it always has to do new installations for each level. And if you want to revisit something you saved from a previous level, the entire level has to get installed again first. Annoying, but I guess it's necessary to save space on the drive eh...I'm not up on this, but is it possible that both 80GB systems are on the market now? I bought my system over a year ago at Best Buy and tracked down the 60GB because we were told it was the only backwards compatible one. We have not updated any firmware at this point, other than what came with a Narnia game we purchased this summer. So I don't know what to tell you. Our research into HD and Blu told us that gamers loved the HD format, but movie people preferred the Blus. We are watching on a big screen (52" LCD made by Samsung) and use the surround sound and we are very happy with our system. I guess the best side-by-side comparison would be on a computer where everything would be the same and you could really see the difference.


You mean PS3 will "only" not "also" here, right? lol... Anyway I've re-checked and PS3 resets my Heroes discs if I press Stop. I have to Pause. There is no memory/saving/check points as how dvd discs are handled, just like my toshiba hd-dvd player. I guess it's a "high def" technology limitation, for now anyway....might have something to do with the codecs that are used for highdef perhaps, don't know...or maybe it has to do with the "size" of the information on highdef discs (which is larger)...hmm no idea. But yeah, regular dvds seem to work in just the same way on high def players as they do on regular players.No, my PS3 will "save" where I am on multiple discs whether they are regular DVDs or Blu rays. I confirmed this this weekend while flipping between season one and season six discs. We had a friend over that was watching season 1, while I was still previewing season 6 in the evening. This is off-the-wall and I know it, but could it have anything to do with me having a remote? (I know it shouldn't, but I'm trying to think of what the differences are on our systems...)


Probably amazon. You?

The grain is probably just less noticeable in bright scenes but I think it's still there. I'm seeing the same stuff with my Heroes S2 on Blu -- grainy dark scenes. Annoying....I haven't had a chance to check out my heroes hd-dvd again to compare, but I don't remember there being this much grain. Again, I don't know if it's just the PS3 bluray player that's bad or if it's bluray in general....but so far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.I had a bad experience with Amazon last year with pre-ordering SV, so I am looking for other retailers. I live in a big metro area and have done some checking around on the net. Target will carry the Blus for $54.99 on Tuesday. I have to pay tax, but I'll have them before the next season starts up. If I buy them on-line I will buy them from FamilyVideo.com, they carry them for $51.99 plus 1.99 shipping with no tax. Amazon is selling for $55.95 free shipping and no tax. As far as other blus, I have bought them mostly at Costco, and Best Buy and Target when they do buy 2 get 1 free deals.

As far as grainy scenes, maybe it's the television aspect of it. I haven't noticed as many grainy scenes on movies, but maybe I was just not noticing because I was into the movie.

[Xanderman]

I guess the best side-by-side comparison would be on a computer where everything would be the same and you could really see the difference.Luckily I don't think I'll need to go that far, lol. Since I have Heroes S1 on HD and S2 on Blu I can just pick and play darker scenes from both and switch between inputs to compare. If the difference is significant, I will definitely notice it. I keep forgetting to do this check though...hopefully I'll get around to it later tonight. Then we'll forever know the undeniable truth....lol


No, my PS3 will "save" where I am on multiple discs whether they are regular DVDs or Blu rays. I confirmed this this weekend while flipping between season one and season six discs. We had a friend over that was watching season 1, while I was still previewing season 6 in the evening. This is off-the-wall and I know it, but could it have anything to do with me having a remote? (I know it shouldn't, but I'm trying to think of what the differences are on our systems...)Wow that sounds great, I think I've tried basically every button and function thru my controller and I have no idea how to do that, but I'm glad to hear that it's apparently possible. Since my model is newer than yours you'd think I'd be able to do it too? Unless they took that ability away from some reason, like what they're planning on doing with backward compatibility....or maybe it has something to do with your remote as you say but that's doubtful. It's not the end of the world of course, it only sucks when I accidentally press stop button instead of pausing (since I press stop with regular dvds). But so far for me, with both my toshiba hddvd and my ps3, stopping resets it/sends it back to the ps3 main menu. Can you do me a favor and next time you watch a bluray show/movie can you let me know if you have to do anything special/extra or if you have different functions on your remote? Or does it just happen automatically no matter how playback is stopped.


I had a bad experience with Amazon last year with pre-ordering SV, so I am looking for other retailers.I've had mostly good experiences, in that the products usually arrive in good shape. I've tried Deep Discount DVD a few times, but on more than one occasion the dvds arrived damaged. Terrible packaging/handling on their part... So I stopped shopping from them altogether, I don't care what deal they have, it's not worth the hassle of getting damaged goods. If a local store is in the same price range (give or take a few bucks) I'd just go to it of course instead, but in general I find amazon to have the best prices, and the widest selection.

[Atomic girl]

Luckily I don't think I'll need to go that far, lol. Since I have Heroes S1 on HD and S2 on Blu I can just pick and play darker scenes from both and switch between inputs to compare. If the difference is significant, I will definitely notice it. I keep forgetting to do this check though...hopefully I'll get around to it later tonight. Then we'll forever know the undeniable truth....lolThe problem here is that you have two variables, the player and the discs, 2 different technologies and 2 different formats, so you don't know where the problem lies.


Wow that sounds great, I think I've tried basically every button and function thru my controller and I have no idea how to do that, but I'm glad to hear that it's apparently possible. Since my model is newer than yours you'd think I'd be able to do it too? Unless they took that ability away from some reason, like what they're planning on doing with backward compatibility....or maybe it has something to do with your remote as you say but that's doubtful. It's not the end of the world of course, it only sucks when I accidentally press stop button instead of pausing (since I press stop with regular dvds). But so far for me, with both my toshiba hddvd and my ps3, stopping resets it/sends it back to the ps3 main menu. Can you do me a favor and next time you watch a bluray show/movie can you let me know if you have to do anything special/extra or if you have different functions on your remote? Or does it just happen automatically no matter how playback is stopped. I just hit the stop button and then turn it off or eject. Either way works. Sometimes when reloading the disc I get the main PS3 menu, just press the buttons to load the disc, then press play and it takes me where I was, which is sometimes weird because I left off in the credits. Or if I previewed a movie for the kids and then let them watch it, I throw it back in and it starts in the credits and I have to go to the start menu.


I've had mostly good experiences, in that the products usually arrive in good shape. I've tried Deep Discount DVD a few times, but on more than one occasion the dvds arrived damaged. Terrible packaging/handling on their part... So I stopped shopping from them altogether, I don't care what deal they have, it's not worth the hassle of getting damaged goods. If a local store is in the same price range (give or take a few bucks) I'd just go to it of course instead, but in general I find amazon to have the best prices, and the widest selection.
Good to know about DeepDiscount, I haven't ordered from them yet but my friend has and never had a problem. I live in a large metro area with Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's etc. nearby as well as independents. So I can bypass Amazon if I want to. I'm thinking Target this time. But I will look into Fry's, they may have a deal for the first week.

What part of the world do you live in? I wonder if that makes a difference with Amazon or Deep Discount. I'm in Southern California.

[superhippie2000]

its now out on DVD woohoo. getting mine in a couple of hours.

[skylar]

I'm going to get mine when I go to lunch this afternoon. So tonight when I get home I can relax and kick back and watch a mini marthon of the first couple of episodes and maybe some behind the scenes.

[superhippie2000]

i just came back from best buy. they had this display thing filled with smallville dvds. and i got my free comic book too :). it started to drizzle when i left and i walked there and was walking back and by the time i got into my complex is was pouring. i was soaked lol. ah the things we do for DVDs lol.

[origin]

Picked mine up this morning:D I was so happy none of the discs were loose, I hate buying something only to have to return to the store and exchange it because it is damaged.

When you open the the boxset The picture of Lex and Clark in the fortress looks fantastic, I also like the picture of Clark in glasses on the panel that holds the booklet

[OneWayFilms]

I ALWAYS open my dvd's in the car BEFORE leaving the store, that way, I'll know if the DVD was loose, or the plastic tabs that hold it in place are broken or not. If so, I march right back inside and replace it.

I also seach ALL the sets on the shelf for the best looking one. Sometimes, the side panel is slightly buckled, bent, or warped, so I'm looking for the one in the BEST condition. I feel like stupid sometimes standing there reaching way in the back pulling ut the same dvd set from the back of the shelf, but I want the BEST. LOL.

Am I the only one THIS compulsive?

[origin]

I also seach ALL the sets on the shelf for the best looking one. Sometimes, the side panel is slightly buckled, bent, or warped, so I'm looking for the one in the BEST condition. I feel like stupid sometimes standing there reaching way in the back pulling ut the same dvd set from the back of the shelf, but I want the BEST. LOL.

Am I the only one THIS compulsive?


I do the same thing LOL:rotfl:

[badwolf]

I ALWAYS open my dvd's in the car BEFORE leaving the store, that way, I'll know if the DVD was loose, or the plastic tabs that hold it in place are broken or not. If so, I march right back inside and replace it.

I also seach ALL the sets on the shelf for the best looking one. Sometimes, the side panel is slightly buckled, bent, or warped, so I'm looking for the one in the BEST condition. I feel like stupid sometimes standing there reaching way in the back pulling ut the same dvd set from the back of the shelf, but I want the BEST. LOL.

Am I the only one THIS compulsive?

I do the exact same thing. People always look at me weird when I'm digging through all the dvds on the store shelves to find a nicer looking one. And then as soon as I get into my car I open them up. I live so far from my local Best Buy I would hate to go home and find out that the discs are damaged or missing.

[ZODisGOD]

I just picked up a copy from Circuit City today:D. I didn't let the pouring rain stop me.

[skylar]

I went to CCity and they didn't have any on the shelves. They didn't put any out. I think I'll try Target.

[txluvstom]

I got mine at 11:30 this morning at Best Buy. And,yeah,you can't miss the HUGH display as you walk into the store. I picked up the forth DVD from the middle of the pack. As I was walking around the store,I saw like ten or more people with SV DVD in their hands. SMALLVILLE ROCKS!

[Québec]

Just got mine an hour ago after I finished my day in college wooo!

[Clark/Lois-fan]

I had hoped to get my set today by mail.....but sadly that didn't happend :(

A new day tomorrow...crosses fingers :D

[Skywalker]

Picked up my copy this morning.

Commentaries were nothin' special. Pretty much the same for the Deleted Scenes.

Although I did LOL @ Kara using her super breath on Chloe.

The Jimmy on Jimmy featurette was okay. Wished it could have been longer - wanted to hear more stories on filming STM from McClure. Plus it sucked not having Justin Whalin.

ETA: Craig, any idea if Whalin was approached to do it?

[smallv17]

Guys, was the dvd intro good? can somebody post it on youtube, pleaase???

[Estro-gen X]

I really want to see that supergirl featurette. Damn all you lucky so and so's :(
;)

[smallv17]

Yeah, I wish I could have the set too!!!

[OneWayFilms]

Haven't been able to watch my copy yet, I picked it up during my lunch hour and just waiting to get home and watch it, but I did peer through the free comic book that came with teh copies from Best Buy. I'm amazed, it's JUST like the show.....FULL OF PRODUCT PLACEMENT!

Direct line from Comic: (page 2)
"Now just chill and play it cool. Here, have some Stride gum. And no need to be greedy, one piece is plenty, the flavor lasts a LONG TIME."

Oh good grief. LOL.

[superhippie2000]

i watched the first disc so far. glad the kept the previously on smallville thing and liked the extended scene with kara looking for al el and the magic trick lol. the magic trick was good and seemed more real then if they had the swoosh sound effect lol.

[KSiteTV]

Picked up my copy this morning.

Commentaries were nothin' special. Pretty much the same for the Deleted Scenes.

Although I did LOL @ Kara using her super breath on Chloe.

The Jimmy on Jimmy featurette was okay. Wished it could have been longer - wanted to hear more stories on filming STM from McClure. Plus it sucked not having Justin Whalin.

ETA: Craig, any idea if Whalin was approached to do it?

I don't think he nor Michael Landes was even considered. Which is surprising since Jack Larson had worked with him on a L&C episode, so he knows he exists.

I guess if they had to keep to four well known Jimmy actors, that would be it, but I would have loved to have seen Landes and Justin Whalin in the same room.

I did like some of the deleted scenes, especially the one for "Fierce" where Chloe learns Lana is alive. We needed to see that on the show.

[Skywalker]

I don't think he nor Michael Landes was even considered. Which is surprising since Jack Larson had worked with him on a L&C episode, so he knows he exists.I guess if they had to keep to four well known Jimmy actors, that would be it, but I would have loved to have seen Landes and Justin Whalin in the same room.
I figured as much for Landes considering he only played Jimmy for one season (I'd take him over Huntington anyday). But not even asking either of them, especially Whalin is just wrong.


I did like some of the deleted scenes, especially the one for "Fierce" where Chloe learns Lana is alive. We needed to see that on the show.Yeah I guess. Though when it comes to S7, I pretend "Fierce" never happened.

Its a shame they didnt get Dean to do commentary on "Cure". Another missed opportunity there as well.

[Xanderman]

The problem here is that you have two variables, the player and the discs, 2 different technologies and 2 different formats, so you don't know where the problem lies.True enough, but at the same time it's the same show, same studio, same source quality basically. This test will tell me whether it's the PS3 or bluray technology in general that's the issue (one or the other--I'd much rather it just be the ps3 of course). Still haven't done the test though...


I just hit the stop button and then turn it off or eject. Either way works. Sometimes when reloading the disc I get the main PS3 menu, just press the buttons to load the disc, then press play and it takes me where I was, which is sometimes weird because I left off in the credits. Or if I previewed a movie for the kids and then let them watch it, I throw it back in and it starts in the credits and I have to go to the start menu.So you're sure it does this with blu-ray discs as well, not just with regular dvds eh? Because so far with my heroes s2 bd set, stopping resets it, just like what my toshiba hddvd player does with hddvds (but with regular dvds it stops/saves points as normal). So far my ps3 isn't doing what yours is at all. I read online recently that my model has much less back-compatibility as well apparently....hmmm maybe my model just plain sucks. lol


Good to know about DeepDiscount, I haven't ordered from them yet but my friend has and never had a problem. I live in a large metro area with Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's etc. nearby as well as independents. So I can bypass Amazon if I want to. I'm thinking Target this time. But I will look into Fry's, they may have a deal for the first week.

What part of the world do you live in? I wonder if that makes a difference with Amazon or Deep Discount. I'm in Southern California.I'm up north in Vancouver. Amazon has a Canadian site too, deepdiscount used to have one too and that's where I ordered from in the past. My primary online dvd source now is the two Amazons (can and u.s.). You guys have better prices than us for the most part, but since I gotta pay for shipping it sort of balances things out. Plus our dollar is getting weaker again now, it was nice when we were even for a while. We're getting sucky again. heh

[Routh]

I got mine at 11:30 this morning at Best Buy. And,yeah,you can't miss the HUGH display as you walk into the store. I picked up the forth DVD from the middle of the pack. As I was walking around the store,I saw like ten or more people with SV DVD in their hands. SMALLVILLE ROCKS!
LOL. 3 people in the register line had S7 boxsets in front of me. I was tempted to ask them if they were hardcore fans who visit K-Site. :) That huge display was pretty cool.

[skylar]

I finally got about 20 mins. ago. The booklet inside on the back of the cover they show a dead Lionel. They could have put somthing else on the back. But I love the DVD.

[Cellist]

I plan on getting mine Friday after I deposit my paycheck.

[smallv17]

Did you guys like the intro? Somebody fill me in please cause I'm dying to know!!!!!

I'll wait until it'll be posted on youtube....!!! :-)

[lanalang1018]

I just got mine from Amazon today! Can't wait to watch it tonight!! :D

[Atomic girl]

LOL. 3 people in the register line had S7 boxsets in front of me. I was tempted to ask them if they were hardcore fans who visit K-Site. :) That huge display was pretty cool.Wow, I would have made some conversation and then let them know about ksite if they didn't already......but I'm funny that way.....ask my kids....

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True enough, but at the same time it's the same show, same studio, same source quality basically. This test will tell me whether it's the PS3 or bluray technology in general that's the issue (one or the other--I'd much rather it just be the ps3 of course). Still haven't done the test though...

So you're sure it does this with blu-ray discs as well, not just with regular dvds eh? Because so far with my heroes s2 bd set, stopping resets it, just like what my toshiba hddvd player does with hddvds (but with regular dvds it stops/saves points as normal). So far my ps3 isn't doing what yours is at all. I read online recently that my model has much less back-compatibility as well apparently....hmmm maybe my model just plain sucks. lol

I'm up north in Vancouver. Amazon has a Canadian site too, deepdiscount used to have one too and that's where I ordered from in the past. My primary online dvd source now is the two Amazons (can and u.s.). You guys have better prices than us for the most part, but since I gotta pay for shipping it sort of balances things out. Plus our dollar is getting weaker again now, it was nice when we were even for a while. We're getting sucky again. hehWell I guess that the best thing to do will be to do a test on these season 7 DVDs in blu. I'll be getting mine later today and I will test to see if they are still doing it. Maybe it's the Heroes DVDs that don't allow it? Just a thought.

Vancouver is beautiful, I love the city. My husband and I were there for our 20th wedding anniversary, then went back with the kids a couple of years later. We didn't do any SV stuff, just enjoyed the city. We were there in the summer, I guess it can get really cold in the winter, which I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy....

[kernel_thai]

picked mine up this afternoon at Best Buy. Wont get to it till next week tho... currently watching Bones 3 and Dexter 2

[PacificNWBuckeye]

I was at Best Buy when they opened and got the second set from the display. A woman got in just before me and was trying to figure out where the comic was, even though the sticker on the package said it was inside. I watched disk one with the deleted scenes so far, the Kara superbreath to Chloe was a good scene, too bad they had to cut it.

[Xanderman]

Well I guess that the best thing to do will be to do a test on these season 7 DVDs in blu. I'll be getting mine later today and I will test to see if they are still doing it. Maybe it's the Heroes DVDs that don't allow it? Just a thought. Or maybe you lucked out and really do have a more advanced PS3! My model might be a bare bones version or something, who knows...but anyway I ordered Smallville S7 yesterday from amazon, when that arrives I can do another test too.:cool:


Vancouver is beautiful, I love the city. My husband and I were there for our 20th wedding anniversary, then went back with the kids a couple of years later. We didn't do any SV stuff, just enjoyed the city. We were there in the summer, I guess it can get really cold in the winter, which I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy....Actually Vancouver (ie. Metropolis, heh) has a very mild climate. The summers aren't that hot and the winters aren't that cold. Instead of snow/ice we just get rain for the most part.

[Skidroe7]

Got my season 7 DVD today and I am lov'in the intro. Can't wait to watch all the episodes before the Premiere

[superhippie2000]

I was at Best Buy when they opened and got the second set from the display. A woman got in just before me and was trying to figure out where the comic was, even though the sticker on the package said it was inside. I watched disk one with the deleted scenes so far, the Kara superbreath to Chloe was a good scene, too bad they had to cut it.
i got mine first :D ypu stickers say it all. i always look for a sticker before i pick something up that should have something in it. ya the superbreathe thing was funny. its always funny seeing effects without the well effects lol. it looks so funny lol. or like in cure with clarks heat vision. the picture just went pop.

[Atomic girl]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3969738&postcount=4196

OK I just got my Blu rays from Target and I noticed that the discs have all the same photo on them, see the post above for confirmation. Are the regular DVDs this way? I feel cheated, even last year's DVDs put different photos on each disc, but they photoshopped two photos together from the regular discs and we got all the photos just squished so to speak.

So let me know fellow ksiters :)

[MBrittan]

Life is good. I just bought my Smallville season 7 box set. I'm at my night job so I haven't had time to watch it yet. Or read the comic.
-M-

[Atomic girl]

Or maybe you lucked out and really do have a more advanced PS3! My model might be a bare bones version or something, who knows...but anyway I ordered Smallville S7 yesterday from amazon, when that arrives I can do another test too.:cool:

Actually Vancouver (ie. Metropolis, heh) has a very mild climate. The summers aren't that hot and the winters aren't that cold. Instead of snow/ice we just get rain for the most part.I live where it's very temperate (the OC) and it rains only a bit in the winter. I am not a big fan of rain. I hope your model is everything you hope it is. Maybe it's the remote? All I know is I bought the 60GB because we were told it was the only one to be truly backwards compatible, which so far it has been, but we don't have many games.

[superhippie2000]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3969738&postcount=4196

OK I just got my Blu rays from Target and I noticed that the discs have all the same photo on them, see the post above for confirmation. Are the regular DVDs this way? I feel cheated, even last year's DVDs put different photos on each disc, but they photoshopped two photos together from the regular discs and we got all the photos just squished so to speak.

So let me know fellow ksiters :)
regular set have different pictures.

disc one clark
disc two lex
disc 3 lana
disc 4 chloe and lois
disc 5 jimmy and kara
disc 6 lionel

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yay! My Smallville S7 Dvd arrived today from Amazon! :)

Amazon gets pre-order points for this:lol:

[krewsaider]

What's the DVD intro look like?

[superhippie2000]

What's the DVD intro look like?
eh im going blank lol.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I love the intro's. I'll tell you tomorrow, when I went to my po box the Post office was closed:/
I've got a notice that it's there:lol: oh well!

[Routh]

eh im going blank lol.
Yeah. It's nothing special. Kinda lame, compared to previous years.

[krpto]

Has anyone watchecd the commentaries yet???

[ZODisGOD]

Has anyone seen the second episode "Kara" yet? In the beginning when kara crushed lois's phone, "sprint" flew towards the screen. I don't remember seeing this when aired on TV, so they prob just added it in. subliminal advertising:p

[krewsaider]

No, it was there in the original airing I think.

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^^^Yeah, you could see the Sprint if you played it in slo-mo.

[PacificNWBuckeye]

These are from the original airing....

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h208/PacificNMBuckeye/Smallville/vlcsnap-173565.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h208/PacificNMBuckeye/Smallville/vlcsnap-173707.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h208/PacificNMBuckeye/Smallville/vlcsnap-175400-1.jpg

[Atomic girl]

regular set have different pictures.

disc one clark
disc two lex
disc 3 lana
disc 4 chloe and lois
disc 5 jimmy and kara
disc 6 lionelThanks Jeff, I thought so......why are they doing this to the people who are spending more money on their merchandise? I see why some are opting to continue getting the seasons on regular DVDs......

[Skywalker]

Has anyone seen the second episode "Kara" yet? In the beginning when kara crushed lois's phone, "sprint" flew towards the screen. I don't remember seeing this when aired on TV, so they prob just added it in. subliminal advertising:p

Really? My DVD was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)

[Atomic girl]

Really?! My Dvd was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)lol too funny, Oh no DO got hold of it......

[badwolf]

Really? My DVD was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)

LMAO this is amazing.

[smallv17]

^^ hilarious!!

[CallMeClark]

The picture of Chloe is soooooo old.

[yoxodo]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3969738&postcount=4196

OK I just got my Blu rays from Target and I noticed that the discs have all the same photo on them, see the post above for confirmation. Are the regular DVDs this way? I feel cheated, even last year's DVDs put different photos on each disc, but they photoshopped two photos together from the regular discs and we got all the photos just squished so to speak.

So let me know fellow ksiters :)

This really dissapointed me too. Also, anyone who bought the blu-ray has to send off for the comic, while it's actually included in the DVD's. All this plus no menus! I feel like I'm being punished for upgrading to hi-def.


By the way, has anyone bought the new Justice League Season 1 blu-ray? I spent $80 on it (40 more than the DVD), just to take it home and find sidebars (!!!) on each episode. The DVD picture was full frame if I remember correctly, and the picture didn't appear to be stretched at all. So I don't understand why the blu-ray has less picture. Also there's some sort of weird white outlines that I never noticed on the DVD's. Maybe I'm just being picky.

[RedKalEL]

for people who kept asking about the intro i'll sum it up in three words, lots of kara

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

I absolutely hate the cover. Since this is the very last season for Lana and Lex they should have put them on the cover one last time. Way too much blue. Since Kara didn't really work as a regular character, and is not returning but for one episode next season, I don't know why they ever decided to showcase her on the cover.

[ClarkyBoy14]

So you're sure it does this with blu-ray discs as well, not just with regular dvds eh? Because so far with my heroes s2 bd set, stopping resets it, just like what my toshiba hddvd player does with hddvds (but with regular dvds it stops/saves points as normal). So far my ps3 isn't doing what yours is at all. I read online recently that my model has much less back-compatibility as well apparently....hmmm maybe my model just plain sucks. lol

I'm pretty sure mine is the same way. Once my brother and I were watching Dan in Real Life on Blu-Ray and he accidentally pressed stop. We had to restart the whole disc and fast-forward to the place where we left off.

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Really? My DVD was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)

:rotfl:

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I absolutely hate the cover. Since this is the very last season for Lana and Lex they should have put them on the cover one last time. Way too much blue. Since Kara didn't really work as a regular character, and is not returning but for one episode next season, I don't know why they ever decided to showcase her on the cover.

I hate the cover too. Clark looks like a big dork, and Kara looks like a tramp. The whole cover just looks really bad and cheesy. However, it makes sense that Kara was featured on the cover. She's the new thing, and people looking at the DVD on the shelf may be interested to see who it is.

--

I can't wait to get mine. I hope it comes today or tomorrow...

[krpto]

Really? My DVD was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)


That's the real reason kara attacked lois she had to destroy the add for yet another new crappy cw tv show.

[ZODisGOD]

Really? My DVD was different...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4540/karasc9.jpg)

lol classic

[petitemimi]

Amazon has the best service: I ordered from Amazon US and I received my DVD today. Yay! *rushes to listen to commentaries*

[ginnyfan]

The best thing about the Commentaries from my POV were the behind the scenes anecdotes. LOL! They talked about what actually went on behind the scenes while filming certain scenes. Also... it was sort of like watching a movie with close friends... they were making fun of things while they went on... particularly the Clark/Lana/Bizarro triangle. Your girlfriend sleeps with your doppelganger - it could happen! LOL! They are like big kids and they have a great energy. Justin Hartley is very funny and John Glover is so... LOL! He says things like "OH GOLLY!" when he's surprised. It was fun.

Also it was interesting to remember how different a perspective the creators of the show have from the audience. John Glover was watching the episode for the first time. He exclaimed over how cool the opening credits looked. He giggled at one point, who knows why, and said "I'd forgotten all about this!" I think it was a scene with Clark. He had a lot of exposition to say.

Also there was some grumbling talk to the fans about continuity, Clana and making sure to add a commentary to the DVD set this time. :D

[Atomic girl]

This really disappointed me too. Also, anyone who bought the blu-ray has to send off for the comic, while it's actually included in the DVD's. All this plus no menus! I feel like I'm being punished for upgrading to hi-def.


By the way, has anyone bought the new Justice League Season 1 blu-ray? I spent $80 on it (40 more than the DVD), just to take it home and find sidebars (!!!) on each episode. The DVD picture was full frame if I remember correctly, and the picture didn't appear to be stretched at all. So I don't understand why the blu-ray has less picture. Also there's some sort of weird white outlines that I never noticed on the DVD's. Maybe I'm just being picky.I didn't buy my set at Best Buy, so I'm only getting the digital version inside (I think). But it was a bit cheaper and I'm not into collectibles.....

Xander, I hooked up my PS3 to the internet and downloaded updates. We heard one of them upgraded the audio (5.1) and we have surround sound, so we finally did it. Now I'm wondering if my picture quality will change, you know that grainy image thing.....I'll let you know.

[superhippie2000]

i liked the deleted scene where lionel was about to kill lana lol.

[Xanderman]

I live where it's very temperate (the OC) and it rains only a bit in the winter. I am not a big fan of rain. I hope your model is everything you hope it is. Maybe it's the remote? All I know is I bought the 60GB because we were told it was the only one to be truly backwards compatible, which so far it has been, but we don't have many games.Orange County like the show? Cool, say hello to Seth for me sometime, lol... and yes you seem to be right, I did some reading and your model is almost fully back compatible, mine is much less. Not too big a deal for me though since I never had ps2 or any games for it, plus I'm not much of a gamer. But the "Stop" thing is really bugging me. Maybe an online update adds that function? Maybe that's how your player got the ability? Maybe I should stop with the maybes? Lol


Thanks Jeff, I thought so......why are they doing this to the people who are spending more money on their merchandise? I see why some are opting to continue getting the seasons on regular DVDs......Oh great, here we go again....sounds like some evil marketing ploy to me. By making the dvd set have various attractive features that the blu doesn't, like better/more artwork, an actual main menu etc, they may be trying to entice bluray collectors to buy BOTH. If that's the case, I hate them. heh


All this plus no menus! I feel like I'm being punished for upgrading to hi-def.Welcome to my world, lol.... Hd-dvd was exactly the same way. I was hoping blu-ray would be better (I just got ps3 recently), but nope.


I'm pretty sure mine is the same way. Once my brother and I were watching Dan in Real Life on Blu-Ray and he accidentally pressed stop. We had to restart the whole disc and fast-forward to the place where we left off.Just like hd-dvd. It seems to be a high def thing/limitation, at least with current technology. But Atomic Girl/Nat is getting different results with bluray discs apparently...I wonder if we need to update our firmware or something...


Xander, I hooked up my PS3 to the internet and downloaded updates. We heard one of them upgraded the audio (5.1) and we have surround sound, so we finally did it. Now I'm wondering if my picture quality will change, you know that grainy image thing.....I'll let you know.Hey thanks for the idea Nat. Since my model is apparently fairly new I assumed it would already be loaded with the latest updates, but maybe it isn't. Perhaps updating will add the stop memory function as I said...who knows. And if updates contain new/improved codecs or something that might improve PQ I guess...hmmm. I'm not really that savvy about these things so I'm not sure.

[Atomic girl]

Orange County like the show? Cool, say hello to Seth for me sometime, lol... and yes you seem to be right, I did some reading and your model is almost fully back compatible, mine is much less. Not too big a deal for me though since I never had ps2 or any games for it, plus I'm not much of a gamer. But the "Stop" thing is really bugging me. Maybe an online update adds that function? Maybe that's how your player got the ability? Maybe I should stop with the maybes? Lol

Oh great, here we go again....sounds like some evil marketing ploy to me. By making the dvd set have various attractive features that the blu doesn't, like better/more artwork, an actual main menu etc, they may be trying to entice bluray collectors to buy BOTH. If that's the case, I hate them. heh

Welcome to my world, lol.... Hd-dvd was exactly the same way. I was hoping blu-ray would be better (I just got ps3 recently), but nope.

Just like hd-dvd. It seems to be a high def thing/limitation, at least with current technology. But Atomic Girl/Nat is getting different results with bluray discs apparently...I wonder if we need to update our firmware or something...

Hey thanks for the idea Nat. Since my model is apparently fairly new I assumed it would already be loaded with the latest updates, but maybe it isn't. Perhaps updating will add the stop memory function as I said...who knows. And if updates contain new/improved codecs or something that might improve PQ I guess...hmmm. I'm not really that savvy about these things so I'm not sure.

I didn't update until last night (first time we have ever done it) and I was actually worried that my PS3 would become like yours.....but we checked that first thing and I still have the ability to stop mid-disc and still pick up from there. But as we were updating last night we were using the Blu ray remote thing and at one point it wouldn't work to proceed with the update and we had to use a controller, so now I'm am really wondering if the mid-disc thing is tied to using the controller versus the remote. We were pressing the same button on the remote that we ended up pressing on the controller, but it wouldn't take the command from the remote. I have no better idea at this time. Anybody else out there?

As far as the OC thing, no one I know lives like that, no one. I can't tell you how unhappy people are here about that portrayal. It was mostly filmed in Pacific Palisades from my understanding, which is LA county....go figure.....

[Smallville6]

I have to wait until my birthday to get the DVD!
Luckily my birthday is Tuesday, before Oddyssy, so I can watch Arctic before it.
But still, I want it now!
I sound like a whiney little kid:lol:

[Mr. Clark Kent27]

Um...hey does anyone have a video of the Smallville Season 7 DVD intro on Youtube? If someone has it, please post it on Youtube!

[yoxodo]

Orange County like the show? Cool, say hello to Seth for me sometime, lol... and yes you seem to be right, I did some reading and your model is almost fully back compatible, mine is much less. Not too big a deal for me though since I never had ps2 or any games for it, plus I'm not much of a gamer. But the "Stop" thing is really bugging me. Maybe an online update adds that function? Maybe that's how your player got the ability? Maybe I should stop with the maybes? Lol

Oh great, here we go again....sounds like some evil marketing ploy to me. By making the dvd set have various attractive features that the blu doesn't, like better/more artwork, an actual main menu etc, they may be trying to entice bluray collectors to buy BOTH. If that's the case, I hate them. heh

Welcome to my world, lol.... Hd-dvd was exactly the same way. I was hoping blu-ray would be better (I just got ps3 recently), but nope.

Just like hd-dvd. It seems to be a high def thing/limitation, at least with current technology. But Atomic Girl/Nat is getting different results with bluray discs apparently...I wonder if we need to update our firmware or something...

Hey thanks for the idea Nat. Since my model is apparently fairly new I assumed it would already be loaded with the latest updates, but maybe it isn't. Perhaps updating will add the stop memory function as I said...who knows. And if updates contain new/improved codecs or something that might improve PQ I guess...hmmm. I'm not really that savvy about these things so I'm not sure.

I have PS3 also. Mine is the bottom of the barrel (40GB) but it plays blu-ray great. If I stop a blu-ray or a dvd, turn the system off, and then watch the same disc later it continues where I left off. I've never gotten the internet upgrades, but certain games that I've played automatically installed some sort of upgrade as soon as I began playing them. I also use the controller and the remote and have never noticed a difference.

[Atomic girl]

Thanks for the additional info yoxodo. Nice to know I'm not crazy.....I was starting to wonder....j/k

We did our first upgrade 2 nights ago. Before that a Narnia game did a bit of an upgrade, but that was the only one. We did the upgrade because we read somewhere that it would improve the surround sound, but I wonder what else it upgraded?

[SnowBird]

Just got my pre-ordered S7 today from Columbia House. The box is beautiful with my favorite color of blue. Clark looks great on the front and back. When it's opened, there is a very nice pix of Lex and Clark in the Fortress which is a nice tribute to Michael and his last year. I only watched disc 6 so far with the 4 Jimmys and I enjoyed their interaction. Learned a few things with Kara at Krypton. Also learned about Supergirl and the comics. Not so enthused about the digital comic book story line but enjoyed seeing Smallville's Clark in any form. I like the episode index booklet and most of the pictures. Cool Bizarro on front, but could have done without the back with the dead body of Lionel under plastic which is gross to me...I just have regular old TVs and I'm happy with the quality of the DVDs with no complications. Well, I'm off to watch Smallville. Have a Super day:)

[superhippie2000]

just watched disc 3. sometimes i wonder why some deleted scenes were taken out. wish they kept the whole explantion as to clark being frozen. it makes more sense now watching it and seeing that clark was stuck in there till everyone he knew died so he would actually start his training. would have been a better opener then the whole bizarro/lana bed scene.

[Routh]

Everyone go watch Bizarro. Check the scene where Clark's hand heals under the sunlight. Is it screwed up for everyone? I think it is. And it sucks! :(

[ClarkyBoy14]

^What's screwed up for you about it? It looked normal to me...

I just got mine from Amazon today. :D I watched the Supergirl featurette. It was pretty interesting, but I wish it could have been longer so they could have had more info. The Kara and the Chronicles of Krypton shorts were kind of interesting, they provided some nice insight. I also listened to the "Persona" commentary, which was really fun. John Glover is great, and all the stuff that they talk about really makes you appreciate everyone who works on the show.

I have to say I like the Blu-Ray packaging better than the DVD. All of my SV DVD's are all worn out due to the general wear and tear of the cardboard, but the plastic isn't going to do that.

[superhippie2000]

ya i didnt notice anything screwed up. maybe your disc had a little glitch or something or maybe since the discs are dual layered it may have been a pause do to a layer switch but i didnt notice that on mine and i usually do notice they slight pause. especuially on my moms dvd player cause the ause last like 5 seconds its annoying lol. my dvd player the pause is just like half a second lol.

[Chlollie]

SV- Arctic Deleted Scenes
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mO5mpShdgDA

There are more deleted scenes up by this person

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Um...hey does anyone have a video of the Smallville Season 7 DVD intro on Youtube? If someone has it, please post it on Youtube!

I'm wondering the same thing.

[origin]

Um...hey does anyone have a video of the Smallville Season 7 DVD intro on Youtube? If someone has it, please post it on Youtube!


Here is a video of a guy talking about his season 7 dvd's, around the 8:50 mark he shows the intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcSu0Hek-QE

[bizzaroboy9]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jcSu0Hek-QE

heres the link to see the dvd and its intro

[Routh]

ya i didnt notice anything screwed up. maybe your disc had a little glitch or something or maybe since the discs are dual layered it may have been a pause do to a layer switch but i didnt notice that on mine and i usually do notice they slight pause. especuially on my moms dvd player cause the ause last like 5 seconds its annoying lol. my dvd player the pause is just like half a second lol.
Someone on TWoP has the same problem as me. The part where the camera pans around Clark's face to show us that his cheek is healing, don't you guys see it twice? Once really fast, then once in normal speed?

[Skywalker]

Someone on TWoP has the same problem as me. The part where the camera pans around Clark's face to show us that his cheek is healing, don't you guys see it twice? Once really fast, then once in normal speed?

Yeah you're right Routh.

The DVD shows it twice. I just checked the original broadcast and it was originally one clip that panned around his face. The DVD repeats two clips: one of his face and another of him kneeling on the ground.

[kryptoniankilla]

Hey everyone!!! Can someone help me on this? Like every year I bought S7 on Tuesday. Watched all the bonus features! Then tonight watching the rerun of "Quest" I saw many commercials for the S7 DVD. And at the end it shows raw green screen footage of Tom Welling from what looks like "Action". My question being, is that really something on the DVD??? Or a promotional oops? :confused:

[ZODisGOD]

Everyone go watch Bizarro. Check the scene where Clark's hand heals under the sunlight. Is it screwed up for everyone? I think it is. And it sucks! :(

I caught this and was going to bring it up here, but it doesn't bother me much. It's not like I can return this and get another, or can i.

[Atomic girl]

Yeah you're right Routh.

The DVD shows it twice. I just checked the original broadcast and it was originally one clip that panned around his face. The DVD repeats two clips: one of his face and another of him kneeling on the ground.The blu rays do not appear to have this defect. I just checked out ours and it's fine.......

[smallv17]

Thank you so much guys for the link!! I've been looking for this!

[Cellist]

Everyone go watch Bizarro. Check the scene where Clark's hand heals under the sunlight. Is it screwed up for everyone? I think it is. And it sucks! :(

Yes! Those shots sort of look like they were filmed in a daytime soap opera style...I don't really know how to explain it. It was sort of "fast".

[Routh]

Yes! Those shots sort of look like they were filmed in a daytime soap opera style...I don't really know how to explain it. It was sort of "fast".
Yes, and it looks really cheesy. It's definitely a screw-up, and I HATE defective DVDs. I hope they offer a disc replacement program.

[superhippie2000]

Someone on TWoP has the same problem as me. The part where the camera pans around Clark's face to show us that his cheek is healing, don't you guys see it twice? Once really fast, then once in normal speed?
o ok like a double clip thing thought you ment like a digital screw up type thing. ya i noticed that. it was like clarks face healing then they showed it agian a bit differently. i thought that was weird and thought for a second the dvd rewinded itself but the second after that went into something else so i knew it didnt repeat and figured it was fine. guess it was a bigger deal then i thought seeing how others are mentioning it.

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Hey everyone!!! Can someone help me on this? Like every year I bought S7 on Tuesday. Watched all the bonus features! Then tonight watching the rerun of "Quest" I saw many commercials for the S7 DVD. And at the end it shows raw green screen footage of Tom Welling from what looks like "Action". My question being, is that really something on the DVD??? Or a promotional oops? :confused:
its a delted scene from persona. it is part of the explanation as to why clark was frozen.

[tarrow21]

It just hit me. Lana and Lex aren't gonna be on the discs next season!

It's gonna be Clark, Chloe, Lois, Jimmy, Oliver, Tess, Davis. How weird!

[kryptoniankilla]

o ok like a double clip thing thought you ment like a digital screw up type thing. ya i noticed that. it was like clarks face healing then they showed it agian a bit differently. i thought that was weird and thought for a second the dvd rewinded itself but the second after that went into something else so i knew it didnt repeat and figured it was fine. guess it was a bigger deal then i thought seeing how others are mentioning it.

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its a delted scene from persona. it is part of the explanation as to why clark was frozen.

AWESOME!!! Thank you!!!! It was driving me crazy, I still have yet to get through all the deleted scenes. I'm happy they explain that!!! :D

[superhippie2000]

no problem. ya that was one of the deleted scenes i wish they kept in the show. i also saw some deleted scenes today from travler and veritas that should have been kept in that delt with karas bracelet. hopefully these things will be braught up some how in the next season. cause without those deleted scenes it made no sense. a bit like last season with the martian manhunter talk with clark in the barn. that was much better then the explanation given in the 6th season finale :\

[Palin Dromos]

Yeah you're right Routh.

The DVD shows it twice. I just checked the original broadcast and it was originally one clip that panned around his face. The DVD repeats two clips: one of his face and another of him kneeling on the ground.

I noticed this too. Interesting to know that it wasn't originally broadcast that way. I was concerned, but when the dialogue and music didn't go out of sync noticeably, I just chalked it up to faulty memory.


Yes! Those shots sort of look like they were filmed in a daytime soap opera style...I don't really know how to explain it. It was sort of "fast".

Yeah a number of shots around that point in the episode look like they have a different frame rate, 25fps or even 30 fps. I think that's what your noticing that's making it hard to explain.

If this is on every DVD copy my hunch is that since it's not on the Blu-ray there might have been a hiccup in the process when they down-converted the footage for the Standard Definition DVD. HD tech can be tricky when juggling HD and SD at the same time. Often those processes are automated but there's always the chance that someone forgets to flip the correct switch. We would hope that the QC department at WHV would have caught it, but sometime stuff falls through the cracks.

A disc replacement would be nice, but I think unlikely considering that it's not a huge F-up, and the disc still plays correctly.

Also agree that that Clark-Freezing scene should have gone back in one of the eps somewhere.

[SnowBird]

I just watched the commentaries for Persona and Siren. I was especially impressed with the commentary of Persona with John Glover, Ken Horton, and Todd Slavkin.

Persona was written by Holly Henderson and Don Whitehead.
Directed by Todd Slavkin

First let me say that I have watched and listened to every commentary of Smallville on their DVD sets. Some I liked better than others. It is irritating to me to listen to a group of people describe an episode while they are talking all at once, laughing and cracking jokes. I can honestly say that the commentary for Persona was very well done. They were very informative, took their turns and was courteous towards one another.

They paid compliments to the actors and talked about the sets, behind the scenes, music, locations, special effects, etc.

As a Tom Welling fan, I always pay attention to any info about him or Clark. You don't often hear much about Tom. It was mentioned that he does get to have his input into the scenes he is apart of. They had a lot of good to say about him and how he performed as Bizarro and Clark like the subtle way he played Bizarro different from Clark.

Something John Glover mentioned - Unlike the kids who lived in Vancouver, he flew 2 1/2 hours every day he had to be in Vancouver. I thought it was kinda funny to be calling Tom Welling a kid.

Justin (Green Arrow) in the commentary of Siren mentioned that Tom has a large trailer which is the largest trailer of anyone and had his dogs with him. Justin said people come up to him and ask if Tom is that big in person and he said - Yes the dude is big. Tom is bigger and taller than he is and makes him look small. Tom has the physical Superman thing going on, and is gorgeous.

Sometimes I see posts in this forum about how they perceive Tom as an actor. I won't say what is said but it isn't always a compliment. From what I have seen and heard from his peers and the people he works with and for, they think very highly of Tom and his work ethics and acting abilities.

I would be interested in any comments from people who have seen the Season 7 commentaries. Please be nice towards all the actors, directors and writers. Please don't make this thread a competition about your favorite Smallville couple.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I've listened to both commentaries now, and they're both really good. They were both fun, funny, and informative. I especially liked the details about the early versions of "Siren." I really hope we get even more next season. And hey, WHV, why don't you make the Blu-Rays with optional PIP commentary?

[SparkleforSmallville]

I liked, in the Persona commentary, that they said it was Tom's idea for Bizarro to mock Chloe behind her back when he was following her in the Daily Planet. That was a cute scene and I don't think I noticed it before!

I also liked hearing about the shadowing the camera men do on the faces and in the rooms. Smallville has that mini movie look and that is one of the reasons.

It seems Tom and James Marsters really enjoy working with each other. I so wish Tom would have done a commentary, especially for Apocalypse or Bizarro! Actually, i would like every episode to have commentary:D

i agree, the deleted scene from Persona, they should have a least had Clark tell Lana why Jor-El kept him there. Maybe they thought it made Jor-El seem too cruel:/

[ginnyfan]

^I agree with you about the commentaries. I would love to have one for every episode.

[Rocky]

Here enjoy http://www.youtube.com/user/ReproImages

[Vergon6]

Thanks for posting these.

[Rocky]

Np Some of the unaired scene they should of kept in the episode it made more sense then the episode we saw without them

[Vergon6]

Np Some of the unaired scene they should of kept in the episode it made more sense then the episode we saw without them
Yeah I know. I remember a deleted scene from "Veritas" surfacing a while back, but I wondered if the DVD included a longer clip of it. It was a scene with Kara and Brainiac.

[Rocky]

The fos was a great scene, as well as the kara brainac, I read today, we where suppose to see clark fly after Kara and brainiac, he flies off then falls down, he cant flyyyyyyyyyy, maybe thats just rumors

[herolee10]

The fos was a great scene, as well as the kara brainac, I read today, we where suppose to see clark fly after Kara and brainiac, he flies off then falls down, he cant flyyyyyyyyyy, maybe thats just rumors

from what I've heard, that was part of the original script, where Clark "tries" to fly to catch up with Kara and Brainiac only to land back into the Daily Planet's Globe no less.

[Vergon6]

from what I've heard, that was part of the original script, where Clark "tries" to fly to catch up with Kara and Brainiac only to land back into the Daily Planet's Globe no less.
Haha, that would have been funny.

[Jaderoyale]

from what I've heard, that was part of the original script, where Clark "tries" to fly to catch up with Kara and Brainiac only to land back into the Daily Planet's Globe no less.

At least he would have tried to fly :\

[ClarkyBoy14]

It's really not fair for those who pay to see the deleted scenes to have them uploaded to the Internet where anyone can see them for free. :\

[Poyntz]

I've been slowly watching the DVD. I watch the episode again (to refresh my memory) then the deleted scenes and commentaries.

I enjoyed the commentaries and some of those deleted scenes would of been need in the episodes.

I'm only half way through though lol. One thing i was disappointed in as a chlark fan was that in fracture they didn't have a scene of clark waiting for chloe to walk up. It would of been a nice parallel to fever back in the early seasons when she was watching over clark sick.

But So far i have enjoyed some of the other scenes. I loved the one when chloe and Kara met at the hospital. It kind of make things click because i always thought the meeting of chloe and kara was weird. They looked at each other weird and now i understand why lol.

I also really liked the jimmy and lana scene. They dont seem to work together much but they had a good repore that was fun to watch.

OK just my 2 cents so far I'm sure I'll have more when i finally finish watching it all. I'm taking my time so i don't get too anxious waiting for the new season lol.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Hey, Xanderman! I just found out that my PS3 will hold the spot on my SV Blu-Rays. I watched an episode, my brother took the disc out and played a PS3 game, shut the system down, then I came back later and put the disc in, and it picked up right where I left off. It's a really nice feature, and I have no clue why it didn't do it before.

[Dizagaox]

It's really not fair for those who pay to see the deleted scenes to have them uploaded to the Internet where anyone can see them for free. :\
Nobody pays to see deleted scenes. They're officially online anyway, for free (look at WB's page on YouTube), so it doesn't really matter.

[shark87]

Some more deleted scenes http://www.youtube.com/user/DivineInterventionSV

[yaseen101]

from what I've heard, that was part of the original script, where Clark "tries" to fly to catch up with Kara and Brainiac only to land back into the Daily Planet's Globe no less.

Did they film that scene or did they just leave it in the script?

[Dizagaox]

I heard the ultimate deleted scene is being put in the Season 8 premiere: how Clark got out of the collapsing Fortress.

[scifigirl]

At least he would have tried to fly :\

With all of the build up in the episode, I think that it was really damaging that Clark didn't attempt to fly. I would have been ok with him trying an failing and falling back down. If that scene existed, I think they should have kept it in.

[christian_kryptonian]

Ok me and my dad were seriously like, "Why did he look up at the sky like he was about to fly and then NOT fly?" Now it makes sense cause he was supposed to. That scene just felt wrong cause he did not try to fly. That would have made it ten times better. This disappoints me that they did not do that.

[alejandrita439]

thank for the links :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Nobody pays to see deleted scenes.

People pay for the DVDs, which is where the deleted scenes are from. Ergo, people pay to see the deleted scenes.


They're officially online anyway, for free (look at WB's page on YouTube), so it doesn't really matter.

WHV only posted a couple of them, not every single one.

[Dizagaox]

The only bonus feature that would have been worth paying for is the original 90 minute version of Veritas, and if scenes that were only cut because of time constraints were put back into their episodes (like they are on the Desperate Housewives, The Office, The Simpsons and Battlestar Galactica DVDs).

[ClarkyBoy14]

The only bonus feature that would have been worth paying for is the original 90 minute version of Veritas, and if scenes that were only cut because of time constraints were put back into their episodes (like they are on the Desperate Housewives, The Office, The Simpsons and Battlestar Galactica DVDs).

That doesn't negate the fact that some of us paid for them, while some get them for free. ;)

It doesn't really matter though, because people are still going to do it regardless, just like illegal music downloading. :p

[superspider02]

On the dvd set do they have the cut clip of lex getting to the fos in the winter coat we saw in trailers but was cut from the episode?

[superhippie2000]

nope :(

[krewsaider]

Are there any deleted scenes from Bizarro? Like more fight scenes?

[superhippie2000]

none in bizarro but there are deleted scenes on a lot of the episodes. a few good ones like karas bracelet info and clark being frozen and lionel trying to kill lana and stuff. those were probably my fav ones. other scenes mostly consisted of talking about whatever was happening.

[Cellist]

Oh man, the deleted scene of Lionel going homicidal on Lana was *awesome*. Classic MB right there.

[moviefan2k4]

The Season 7 DVD set is, by far, one of the best (if not the best) home-video releases "Smallville" has been given to date. The episodes always make much more sense to me when I see them without all the pop-ups and screwy sound (still watching with an antenna, but hopefully not much longer).

As for the extras, my faves are the Supergirl retrospective and the deleted scenes from "Kara". The commentaries were nice to have back, but the one on "Persona" felt a bit lacking, IMO. The "Siren" commentary was interesting, with Justin Hartley's remarks and such. All in all, the set gets a 8.5/10 in my book.

[MBrittan]

Classic MB right there.

Don't you mean JG?
-M-

[minerva73]

The MB = John Glover's character at certain parts of the show *which he does an awesome job with* :D

Just like people would say "classic BDA" when referring to a scene when Clark doesn't act as smart as he should instead of saying "classic Tom Welling" since TW doesn't always make Clark act like a naive alien. Since Lionel isn't always being the MB (like from what we saw in Hero where he was helping out Clark), that moment where he tried to kill Lana was a MB moment.

I dunno if that's what you were referring to... *knows I probably sounded dumb if it wasn't*

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All of the talk of the DVD sounds great. I know the first thing that I'll do when I get my copy, lol. I'll rip the Lionel/Lana deleted scenes from the episodes onto my computer for some projects, haha.

[MBrittan]

The MB = John Glover's character at certain parts of the show *which he does an awesome job with* :D

Just like people would say "classic BDA" when referring to a scene when Clark doesn't act as smart as he should instead of saying "classic Tom Welling" since TW doesn't always make Clark act like a naive alien. Since Lionel isn't always being the MB (like from what we saw in Hero where he was helping out Clark), that moment where he tried to kill Lana was a MB moment.

I dunno if that's what you were referring to... *knows I probably sounded dumb if it wasn't*

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All of the talk of the DVD sounds great. I know the first thing that I'll do when I get my copy, lol. I'll rip the Lionel/Lana deleted scenes from the episodes onto my computer for some projects, haha.


I assume you mean "manipulative [word meaning "illegitimate child" starting with the letter "B"]"?
-M-

[Cellist]

I've always understood that the M stood for "magnificent", but manipulative works as well. =P

[minerva73]

Yeah, I've always thought that MB meant "Magnificent B****rd"like Cellist. But I also agree that "manipulative" makes a lot of sense too.

[wildenchantress_kt]

Mods, Can you please put up a new poll for this thread. Or at least get rid of the old one. It is very dated.

[RedKalEL]

Hey, Xanderman! I just found out that my PS3 will hold the spot on my SV Blu-Rays. I watched an episode, my brother took the disc out and played a PS3 game, shut the system down, then I came back later and put the disc in, and it picked up right where I left off. It's a really nice feature, and I have no clue why it didn't do it before.


that's a feature from the PS3 it can do that on any dvd even a dvd that you put in the
PS3 and then put it in again a month it will still do that

[Xanderman]

Hey, Xanderman! I just found out that my PS3 will hold the spot on my SV Blu-Rays. I watched an episode, my brother took the disc out and played a PS3 game, shut the system down, then I came back later and put the disc in, and it picked up right where I left off. It's a really nice feature, and I have no clue why it didn't do it before.Cool thanks for letting me know, especially since we've got the same models.:cool: Do you use a special remote or just the game controller? And did you do any online updates since you got it? Maybe one of these things is needed before it works... (btw I'm finding the game controller an annoying remote, I guess I'll have to give in and get that special one eh...)


that's a feature from the PS3 it can do that on any dvd even a dvd that you put in the
PS3 and then put it in again a month it will still do thatWith Heroes S2 on blu though, my system isn't doing that. It goes back to the ps3 main menu when I stop playback during the episode. When I play it again, the disc reboots from the beginning, logos/title screen etc. I have Prison Break S3 on blu now, I'll give the stop/power off thing a try with that tonight...

[Atomic girl]

Cool thanks for letting me know, especially since we've got the same models.:cool: Do you use a special remote or just the game controller? And did you do any online updates since you got it? Maybe one of these things is needed before it works... (btw I'm finding the game controller an annoying remote, I guess I'll have to give in and get that special one eh...)

With Heroes S2 on blu though, my system isn't doing that. It goes back to the ps3 main menu when I stop playback during the episode. When I play it again, the disc reboots from the beginning, logos/title screen etc. I have Prison Break S3 on blu now, I'll give the stop/power off thing a try with that tonight...I hope it works for you :) BTW I love the movie, The Matrix....great avi.....

[Xanderman]

^thanks.:) I have a feeling it has to do with updates... I haven't done any yet.
(and thanks about the avatar, it was made by a past poster named Dark_Valkyrie)

By the way Nat on the subject of bluray PQ, I've seen a few eps of Prison Break S3 so far and there's a surprising amount of grain in that too, but it's mostly in the prison scenes (maybe they're going for the "dirty" look on purpose with those though, not sure). Either way it's annoying....I need to go back to my previous seasons on regular dvd and compare, but I recall the dvd quality being stunning (I have no memories of annoying grain for seasons 1/2). I still haven't done that Heroes blu vs Heroes hd test yet btw, I gotta get on that sometime too...

And I can't remember if you already said but does Smallville S7 look good on blu? Grain?

[Atomic girl]

It still has some grain to it. I can't really figure out what the common factor for it all is. I thought originally it was only dark scenes, but now that I'm trying to "watch" for it I see it more often. My PS3 only got upgraded a week ago, but it was always keeping the spot for me. I'm wondering if the remote has anything to do with it. Clarkyboy needs to post and answer some of this.

[Jephael]

I'm debating whether I should buy season 7 now or to wait for the price to go down. $44 is a lot to pay for that boxset. Then again, maybe I'll get it for a better price at Wal-Mart.

[Atomic girl]

I think it's less than that at Amazon, if you're interested in that. I also found it at Familyvideo.com, they had the best blu ray price, you might check the regular DVDs.

[yoxodo]

^thanks.:) I have a feeling it has to do with updates... I haven't done any yet.
(and thanks about the avatar, it was made by a past poster named Dark_Valkyrie)

By the way Nat on the subject of bluray PQ, I've seen a few eps of Prison Break S3 so far and there's a surprising amount of grain in that too, but it's mostly in the prison scenes (maybe they're going for the "dirty" look on purpose with those though, not sure). Either way it's annoying....I need to go back to my previous seasons on regular dvd and compare, but I recall the dvd quality being stunning (I have no memories of annoying grain for seasons 1/2). I still haven't done that Heroes blu vs Heroes hd test yet btw, I gotta get on that sometime too...

And I can't remember if you already said but does Smallville S7 look good on blu? Grain?

I've been buying a lot of tv and film on blu-ray and I have yet to find any title that doesn't have some amount of grain. It really annoys me too because sometimes my attention is drawn to those staticy areas in the picture.
Some titles are worse than others. Smallville looks great but even in bright scenes there is a little grain. I notice it a lot on peoples faces, or in the background.
For some reason Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects is the worst looking title i've seen on blu-ray. It looks like i'm watching it through a sandstorm.

[RedKalEL]

Cool thanks for letting me know, especially since we've got the same models.:cool: Do you use a special remote or just the game controller? And did you do any online updates since you got it? Maybe one of these things is needed before it works... (btw I'm finding the game controller an annoying remote, I guess I'll have to give in and get that special one eh...)

With Heroes S2 on blu though, my system isn't doing that. It goes back to the ps3 main menu when I stop playback during the episode. When I play it again, the disc reboots from the beginning, logos/title screen etc. I have Prison Break S3 on blu now, I'll give the stop/power off thing a try with that tonight...


well i don't know aobut the blue rays but it does for regualr dvds

[Xanderman]

It still has some grain to it. I can't really figure out what the common factor for it all is. I thought originally it was only dark scenes, but now that I'm trying to "watch" for it I see it more often. My PS3 only got upgraded a week ago, but it was always keeping the spot for me. I'm wondering if the remote has anything to do with it. Clarkyboy needs to post and answer some of this.I exited an episode of Prison Break S3 on blu using the "quit playback" option that takes it back to the ps3 menu, and when I played it again it returned to the same spot. So I guess it depends on the dvd/bd if that function works, as it didn't seem to work with Heroes. Although with Heroes on blu, the Stop button works. The Stop button doesn't work with Prison Break. And as I said, when I press Stop on Heroes, it doesn't return to the same spot. I guess I always need to do the "Exit Playback" thing, then it saves the position? Which is annoying because it's a two-button process---Exit button, then you have to Confirm Yes. And unfortunately the load time to return to the same spot is pretty long, much longer than dvd players take. But at least it does indeed do it on my unit.

As for the PQ of Prison Break S3 on blu on PS3, I compared it with Prison Break S2 on dvd (which I played on my toshiba hd-dvd player, a really great upconverter). There is no grain problem on the dvd, but the picture is softer/less sharp on dvd so that might have something to do with it. Bluray PQ seems to be mixed. Sometimes the grain is very terrible, like bad reception on a tv station, and sometimes the grain is barely visible at all. This might mean they're not giving the proper care and attention to the entire encoding process for blurays? Or are some scenes just not filmed as well and then that translates to the bad scenes on bluray? But dvd quality is consistently of the same good quality so that doesn't really support that... And I don't know how much the PS3's player itself might have to do with the grain thing. if anything. Anyway I'll do that Heroes blu vs Heroes hddvd comparison tonight, I still haven't done that...


I've been buying a lot of tv and film on blu-ray and I have yet to find any title that doesn't have some amount of grain. It really annoys me too because sometimes my attention is drawn to those staticy areas in the picture.
Some titles are worse than others. Smallville looks great but even in bright scenes there is a little grain. I notice it a lot on peoples faces, or in the background.
For some reason Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects is the worst looking title i've seen on blu-ray. It looks like i'm watching it through a sandstorm.Doesn't sound good.... Do you think it's the PS3 to blame? Maybe more highend bluray players produce better images? I've read a lot of Amazon reviews for blu and I often notice people complaining about PQ. Many reviewers say stuff like "great movie, terrible transfer", or "slightly better than dvd quality/not worth the upgrade/stick with dvd" etc. Is the transfer process to blame for all these different movies, or is bluray technology flawed? Or maybe the PS3 is the real problem?


well i don't know aobut the blue rays but it does for regualr dvdsThanks, as I said above I think I figured out how to do it with blurays. Or at least for Prison Break S3 anyway...

[Atomic girl]

I exited an episode of Prison Break S3 on blu using the "quit playback" option that takes it back to the ps3 menu, and when I played it again it returned to the same spot. So I guess it depends on the dvd/bd if that function works, as it didn't seem to work with Heroes. Although with Heroes on blu, the Stop button works. The Stop button doesn't work with Prison Break. And as I said, when I press Stop on Heroes, it doesn't return to the same spot. I guess I always need to do the "Exit Playback" thing, then it saves the position? Which is annoying because it's a two-button process---Exit button, then you have to Confirm Yes. And unfortunately the load time to return to the same spot is pretty long, much longer than dvd players take. But at least it does indeed do it on my unit.You know after your post, I'm thinking it has to do with the controller's interface with the DVD. The remote does not have a quit playback button, just pause and stop. And something I was noticing last night....(I hope this makes sense even without a remote) When I use pop up menu to get to special features, it takes an extra button push or two to get there, but it holds my place in the episode, but if I use the top menu button to get to special features, when I go back to the episode, it always puts me at the beginning of the disc.

So last night I'm watching Gemini and I go to deleted scenes. I'm in a bit of a hurry and want to just watch Gemini's not all, so I go to top Menu so that after it plays the deleted scene I want, it returns to the special features menu with the cursor on the next deleted scene, so I play that, and am now ready to watch Persona. But when I go back to episodes, it goes to the front of the disc. Now if I had gone to pop-up menu, I would have to cursor over to special features, then cursor over to the deleted scene I want, and when it was done, it would start the episode where I left off. So now to see the next deleted scene, I have to start all over from pop-up menu, but it will keep my place in the episode.

So now Xander, are you accessing stuff from the top menu all the time and losing your place? Maybe that's the problem. If you're using a controller I can see why you'd go with fewer steps, I have too, and I have the controller, but it does make a difference apparently.....now I wonder if that is a PS3 thing or all blu ray players......

[Xanderman]

When I use pop up menu to get to special features, it takes an extra button push or two to get there, but it holds my place in the episode, but if I use the top menu button to get to special features, when I go back to the episode, it always puts me at the beginning of the disc.Is this for Smallville? Does it have a top menu? Or just the popup. I guess you're talking about other discs. That's pretty cool, so you can watch a special feature and return to your place in the episode afterward? (My toshiba hd-dvd doesn't do that. It doesn't save stop points either. You have to Pause. You can pull up the popup menu, but if you select an extra/special feature to watch, you lose your place in the episode. So PS3/bd has it beat there for sure...)


are you accessing stuff from the top menu all the time and losing your place? Maybe that's the problem. If you're using a controller I can see why you'd go with fewer steps, I have too, and I have the controller, but it does make a difference apparently.....now I wonder if that is a PS3 thing or all blu ray players......I don't mind if I lose my place if I decide to watch something else (like an extra), I just don't like the whole disc resetting if I stop playback or exit during an episode, and not be able to return instantly.

I'm going by memory here, but this is what the game controller does with Heroes S2/Prison Break S3 on blu during an episode:

x (Heroes)=Stops playback/Resets back to the PS3 main menu. Does not save position. Whole disc restarts upon next play.
x (Prison)=Pause (same as Start button)

o (both shows)=quit playback screen pops up--then you have to confirm Yes or No (I can't remember if this saves the position for Heroes, it does for Prison). Yes takes you back to the ps3 main menu. Playing Prison Break again from there takes you back to where you were.

square(both)=popup menu for disc

triangle(both)=popup menu with more buttons (subtitle, etc) (however choosing Stop from this menu for PrisonBreak does nothing. There doesn't appear to be a "stop" function for prison break...strange)

start(both)=pause

select(both)=disc/playback information display (time,codec, etc)

L1(both)=previous chapter
R1(both)=next chapter
L2(both)=rewind
R2(both)=fast forward

I wonder what it's going to do for Smallville. With my luck "x" will probably be "explode"....:lol:

[DMB_fan]

Hey everyone...a lurker asking for a favor!
My dvd set didn't have the episode guide for some reason, just the comic book, and I'm wondering if there is anywhere online I can get a copy or print a copy, whatever.
Sometimes I hate Best Buy! I would really appreciate some help! =]

[ClarkyBoy14]

It still has some grain to it. I can't really figure out what the common factor for it all is. I thought originally it was only dark scenes, but now that I'm trying to "watch" for it I see it more often. My PS3 only got upgraded a week ago, but it was always keeping the spot for me. I'm wondering if the remote has anything to do with it. Clarkyboy needs to post and answer some of this.

Haha, sorry. I lost power Sunday afternoon and didn't get it back until this evening. :(

It seems like Xanderman has figured it out too, though. Just to answer, I use my game controller. I should have mentioned that I don't press stop either. I just exit the disc by pressing "O." The load time is pretty long, but it's still nice to be able to go back to where I stopped, even after I watch bonus features.

[MBrittan]

Hey everyone...a lurker asking for a favor!
My dvd set didn't have the episode guide for some reason, just the comic book, and I'm wondering if there is anywhere online I can get a copy or print a copy, whatever.
Sometimes I hate Best Buy! I would really appreciate some help! =]

I wish I would have known. I threw mine away. I don't keep em. It gets too clumsy with all that paper crammed in there. I kept the comic, but I put it in with the rest of my comics. The episode guide went right into the trash. Bummer.
:(
-M-

[PacificNWBuckeye]

Hey everyone...a lurker asking for a favor!
My dvd set didn't have the episode guide for some reason, just the comic book, and I'm wondering if there is anywhere online I can get a copy or print a copy, whatever.
Sometimes I hate Best Buy! I would really appreciate some help! =]


You could always take the set back to Best Buy and exchange it. As long as you have the receipt it doesn't matter if it is open since you are getting the same thing.

[Atomic girl]

Is this for Smallville? Does it have a top menu? Or just the popup. I guess you're talking about other discs. That's pretty cool, so you can watch a special feature and return to your place in the episode afterward? (My toshiba hd-dvd doesn't do that. It doesn't save stop points either. You have to Pause. You can pull up the popup menu, but if you select an extra/special feature to watch, you lose your place in the episode. So PS3/bd has it beat there for sure...)

I don't mind if I lose my place if I decide to watch something else (like an extra), I just don't like the whole disc resetting if I stop playback or exit during an episode, and not be able to return instantly.

I'm going by memory here, but this is what the game controller does with Heroes S2/Prison Break S3 on blu during an episode:

x (Heroes)=Stops playback/Resets back to the PS3 main menu. Does not save position. Whole disc restarts upon next play.
x (Prison)=Pause (same as Start button)

o (both shows)=quit playback screen pops up--then you have to confirm Yes or No (I can't remember if this saves the position for Heroes, it does for Prison). Yes takes you back to the ps3 main menu. Playing Prison Break again from there takes you back to where you were.

square(both)=popup menu for disc

triangle(both)=popup menu with more buttons (subtitle, etc) (however choosing Stop from this menu for PrisonBreak does nothing. There doesn't appear to be a "stop" function for prison break...strange)

start(both)=pause

select(both)=disc/playback information display (time,codec, etc)

L1(both)=previous chapter
R1(both)=next chapter
L2(both)=rewind
R2(both)=fast forward

I wonder what it's going to do for Smallville. With my luck "x" will probably be "explode"....:lol:
Yes I was talking about Smallville. And I have never used the controller for DVDs. We bought the remote at the same time as the PS3. We bought it as a Blu ray disc player mostly, since they were running the same amount of money, and thought, why not get a game system as well......

Top Menu on Smallville is the special features menu, same one as you get when you press pop up menu and go to special features. But top menu stops the disc playing, as opposed to pop up menu where the episode is still playing.

[KDP84]

Just a comment to those discussing the grain. Are you referring to grain or noise? they are 2 different things. If its noise, yes thats not good. It could be anything from improper connections to tv setup. Grain on the other hand is not a negative thing. You want to have some grain. Since they show is shot on film stock, there will be grain. If you remove the grain (and make the picture look like speed racer or something), you are getting rid of some of the fine detail in the process.

[Atomic girl]

We are talking about picture quality (PQ) so yes, grain. It reminds me of the grainy photos you get in low light conditions with film.

[skully]

Oh, and Craig if you're reading these I saw your interview on the standard DVD version last night under the Big Fan documentary. Very nicely done.I have S6 on my PC so hadn't bothered to get the S6 DVD set. The wife bought it for me as a surprise recently and I watched the Big Fan feature on Disk 1 last night.

Craig rocks!!!! Not sure if it's been discussed (probably has) but are any of the other fans that appear in that feature K-site regulars?

[Atomic girl]

I pretty sure another one from here was identified, but can't remember which one......but come on, how can you call yourself a Smallville fan without knowing/being a member of this site?....I know I am members of a few of them.....and I'm not nearly as fanatical as most....

[SparkleforSmallville]

I have S6 on my PC so hadn't bothered to get the S6 DVD set. The wife bought it for me as a surprise recently and I watched the Big Fan feature on Disk 1 last night.

Craig rocks!!!! Not sure if it's been discussed (probably has) but are any of the other fans that appear in that feature K-site regulars?

There is a thread about all of the Ksiters who entered and who won, I remember seeing it, can't remember which Forum.:/ Maybe the Mods would know. The girl who kisses the Lex doll, at the end? She is a member.

[Atomic girl]

There is a thread about all of the Ksiters who entered and who won, I remember seeing it, can't remember which Forum.:/ Maybe the Mods would know. The girl who kisses the Lex doll, at the end? She is a member.That's the girl I remember being identified....I'll bump the thread if I find it....

[Xanderman]

Top Menu on Smallville is the special features menu, same one as you get when you press pop up menu and go to special features. But top menu stops the disc playing, as opposed to pop up menu where the episode is still playing.Ah ok I'll wait to get the SV set and see if the controller can access this top menu without too much trouble...so far I'm finding the controller gets the basic job done, but sometimes you have to press multiple buttons to do things, which is a hassle. And it seems that it depends on the show/movie if the stop/return thing works for bluray content. Prison Break on blu allows me to return to where I was after exiting (there is no "stop" ability though with PB, you have to exit completely). Heroes on the other hand resets completely if you exit, stop, or power off. No returning, you have to pause.

So I did the Heroes side by side yesterday. The good news is that Hd-dvd(season1) and Blu-ray(season2) quality are basically the same, very little difference. The bluray has a tiny bit more grain to the image in general I'd say, but it's an extremely minor difference compared to the hddvd and not really an issue. This is good news, as it shows PS3/bd isn't to blame for problem blurays. That said, I did find the Heroes bluray quality to vary. It's usually great and just as good as hd-dvd, but I have come across a few bad looking grainy scenes (usually darker ones). I found this to be the case mainly in the early episodes of Season 2 though. It's almost as if Universal learned as they were going along, and improved their transfering/encoding/whatever process in later episodes. And probably to save themselves money, they didn't bother re-doing the earlier stuff.

The PQ for Prison Break S3 on blu in general is worse than Heroes on blu. Way too many overly-grainy scenes on the Prison Break transfer. Maybe it's the way S3 was filmed, to make certain prison scenes more gritty/dirty looking, I'm not sure. I'll keep an eye out for unnecessarily grainy scenes outside of the prison...


Just a comment to those discussing the grain. Are you referring to grain or noise? they are 2 different things. If its noise, yes thats not good. It could be anything from improper connections to tv setup. Grain on the other hand is not a negative thing. You want to have some grain. Since they show is shot on film stock, there will be grain. If you remove the grain (and make the picture look like speed racer or something), you are getting rid of some of the fine detail in the process.There's such a thing as too much grain though, where it becomes visually distracting and annoying. To the point where it almost looks like bad reception on a tv station or noise.

[skully]

Thanks Atomic Girl and Sparkle.

If anyone can remember which thread (Craig, Superhippie??) the fans who appeared in the Big Fan feature on disk 1 of the S6 DVD set were discussed, I'd love a link. :)

[Atomic girl]

It's possible that the discussion was in this thread a year ago.....

[skully]

I checked, Atomic girl. The S6 DVD came out around page 180 (in the 20 posts per page format) and I checked many pages after that. Nada about those who appeared in the feature. Hence my question.

The Big Fan feature is just great. I'm sure many of us can empathize with the fanaticism of those shown in the clip.

What really made me sit up and nearly choke on my coffee was AlMiles and the production staff saying how much they paid attention to the fans' views. Bwahahahahahaha - yeah right.

And I loved the ComicCon coverage of the SV Panel sessions. 5,000 fans (and many turned away) clammering for questions and answers from the cast and crew. Ya gotta love that.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

The Big Fan feature is just great. I'm sure many of us can empathize with the fanaticism of those shown in the clip.

Me being one of them :D I love that part about the fans & the interviews

[Reeve_290]

Just a question, I was hoping someone could answer for me.

I've ordered the S7 box set off Amazon (so I assume it'll be an American set, I'm an Aussie). Just wanted to know, do they show the 'Previously On Smallville...' Montages in either Bizarro, Gemini or Arctic (particularly Bizarro, that montage was fantastic!). Its just the S6 set I got off Amazon didn't - not even at the beginning of Zod.

However, all the earlier seasons, 1-5, which I bought here in Aus did show the montages in finales, mid-way through seasons, in the premieres.

The question is not cos I won't know what's going on - I just love those montages :p

Can someone let me know?

Thanks.

[Atomic girl]

I believe if you go back and check the DVD threadin top section of this area), and scan a few pages back that will be answered for you. I have Blu rays and they do include it, but they did last year too.

[superhippie2000]

only bizarro has the recap.

[ClarkyBoy14]

They cut them from "Gemini," "Persona," and "Arctic." I'm just glad that they kept the "Bizarro" one, though. That one was great.

[Xanderman]

I just saw Bizarro last night (Season 7 bluray). Not the cleanest picture quality overall, similar to Prison Break on blu (quality seems to fluctuate). Heroes on blu is the best tv-on-blu transfer I've seen so far I'd say (it looked similarly great on hd-dvd). So, so far PS3/blu is pretty awesome, love how some blurays (like Prison Break and Smallville) get saved stop points if you exit/power off (Heroes blu doesn't do that though). Also love the wireless bluetooth control. The game controller is basically enough--the only thing I'd really want a bluray remote for is single button subtitles and single button ejecting and powering on/off. Also single button stopping (with position saving) would be nice, if that's what the remote does.

Back to Smallville S7 on blu: There was a scene between Bizarro and Clark where it looked like the video and audio were out of sync while Bizarro was talking, but I checked the original airing and it was there too. (It was when he told Clark that he has all his memories and thoughts...clearly this was a late change/addition in order to give more info to the viewer, otherwise people might be confused about how Bizarro knows so much about everybody during the episode)

[Reeve_290]

They cut them from "Gemini," "Persona," and "Arctic." I'm just glad that they kept the "Bizarro" one, though. That one was great.

Yeah i know it was sooo epic - i get chills whenever i see it and i was so worried they wouldnt include it :D

[Clark/Lois-fan]

I have only watched Bizarro on tv. Tonight will be the first time that I see it on dvd. Last night I finished watching S6- so I can't wait to get off from work :D

[kryptoniankilla]

Does anyone have any news on a replacement disc for disc 1 of season 7???

[MBrittan]

Does anyone have any news on a replacement disc for disc 1 of season 7???

?!!?
Why would we?
-M-

[PacificNWBuckeye]

I think kryptoniankilla is refering to the poor edit of the Clark regeneration scene in Bizzaro, on the regular DVD set the pan around Clark repeats. I haven't heard about a replacment, but it didn't bother me that much.