View Full Version : Lex and Lana kiss: Passion or something else
Cogito17
11-08-2007, 08:44 PM
What was up with that?
Everything that Lana is saying and doing seems to point to her hating Lex and being devoted to Clark. Maybe it was just my imagination, but that kiss seemed to stretch on longer than it should have and it seemed like Lana was reciprocating. Its not like she needed the kiss to catch him off guard and gain the upper hand, she had Clark's powers.
Afterward, Lex doesn't really make mention of it and only talks about her hatred for him. It seems like everything surrounding Lex/Lana points towards Lana hating Lex, but it seemed like Lana was into the kiss from Lex which contradicts everything she says/does. The kiss itself seems completely unnecessary if they are painting the Lex/Lana relationship as one of animosity. Was it just me? Or was there something more going on with that kiss than everything Lana is saying/doing points to?
paolinki25
11-08-2007, 08:47 PM
I don't know. I'd like to believe Lex is just messing with everybody's heads. I'd like to believe Lex is just manipulating her.
ClanaDestinyObsession
11-08-2007, 08:48 PM
i think it was just a stupid script intended to make me gag.
(and it worked!)
supergirl945
11-08-2007, 08:49 PM
idk, but, EWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! didn't we have enough of that last season?!
myankskent
11-08-2007, 08:51 PM
It's hard for me to take that scene seriously when one second Lana is wearing her jacket, and then as soon as Lex goes to kiss her, her jacket is suddenly gone. The filming of that scene was a mess.
I mean, iI think it's pretty obvious that she still loves Lex. When I saw her kissing back, my mouth was agape and the only thing I could say is, "what is a b1tch!"
It's sad that Clark's love had to turn out like this, but her heart is clearly with Lex.
OH-IO Fan
11-08-2007, 08:52 PM
she did seem to be more into the kiss with Lex than with Clark. But that whole scene was ruined for me when they panned out and she did not have her jacket on and he was holding her arm. How does that get missed in the edit room??? WOW!!!!
paolinki25
11-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
It's hard for me to take that scene seriously when one second Lana is wearing her jacket, and then as soon as Lex goes to kiss her, her jacket is suddenly gone. The filming of that scene was a mess.
:lol: I noticed that too. I guess the director kinda felt asleep while shooting this scene.
MRluvr
11-08-2007, 10:56 PM
I think it was a mainly a ploy used by Lex to try to get Lana not to kill him---but when it happened I seriously said out loud "you've got to be kidding me." Who expected that? I thought it was a little dumb, but hey, it added some twist (Lana still has feelings for Lex? What? there is something wrong with her head) but we all now that Lex still loves Lana
jposey
11-08-2007, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by paolinki25
I don't know. I'd like to believe Lex is just messing with everybody's heads. I'd like to believe Lex is just manipulating her.
Me too...
Bigx07
11-08-2007, 10:58 PM
Lex is still head over heels for Lana and now he thinks Lana may still have feelings for him . May lex and lana will get back together and team up to bring down Clark Kent.
MRluvr
11-08-2007, 11:03 PM
didn't Lex fall in love with Lana originally because as he put it : she was refreshing? all day he dealt with manipulative business men and she was exactly the opposite: honest, pure, morally sound? Lex changed all that when he was with her, making her into a complicated, dishonest mess, and yet he still loves her.
Bigx07
11-08-2007, 11:06 PM
of course he still loves her.
GhostRaider
11-08-2007, 11:07 PM
When I saw the kiss I was like WTH not a startup to Lexanna again.
But alas my fears were put to rest when Lana put Lex in a choke hold, tosses him across the room and then proceeds to wipe her mouth like she had just been kissed by a diseased monkey lol and even still goes on to rant to Clark how the world would be so much better with Lex Luthor dead.
But as far as any feelings for Lex I will agree she has feelings for the man, but it isn't love. It is hatred in its purest form.
Heck even Lex said as much when he said Lana still has feelings for him and that her hatred for him was more important to her than her love for Clark to the point that it has now become an obsession.
MRluvr
11-08-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by GhostRaider
diseased monkey
HAHA:rotfl:
ginnyfan
11-09-2007, 02:00 AM
The Lexana kiss was HAWT. Hotter than Clana sex... but I've said that about so many things. LOL!
Polomontana
11-09-2007, 03:46 AM
Lana kissed Lex for along time so it couldn't have been a mistake.
Lex also told Clark that he knows Lana still has feelings for him. Those feelings have turned into an obsession.
If it wasn't passion what was that?
TampaVille
11-09-2007, 04:48 AM
Partly, I think Lex kissed her to save his own life. He could have been thinking something along the lines of, "Hmm... Lana is going to kill me. What can I do to keep her from killing me. Well, if she's kissing me, she's not killing me. She might kiss me. Let's give that theory a try." ;)
Actually, I was pretty shocked when that happened. Maybe it's part of her general obsession with him. She might not know how she feels, could be all confused, etc.
DestinyAw8s
11-09-2007, 06:16 AM
Since when do you have to rip somebody's shirt open to electrocute them?:confused:
ShelbyKent
11-09-2007, 06:30 AM
Since when do you have to rip somebody's shirt open to electrocute them?:confused: :lol: She wanted to cop a feel before she fries him? What can I say? She's a disturbed young woman. :lol:
Guidron
11-09-2007, 06:32 AM
It looked to me like there was more behind that kiss than distraction. From either of them.
MozartRequiem
11-09-2007, 07:19 AM
Maybe it was just a moment of enraged confusion. Her hatred was overpowering, and then the kiss happened, and she was trying to distract him, and was feeling, "If I make this kiss seem real, then it'll hurt Lex that much more when it's not!" but then was feeling confused by how perhaps it made her think of the Lex from years ago, a kinder Lex, and made her wonder, "Is he really changing?" Those are some theories. :)
DestinyAw8s
11-09-2007, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
:lol: She wanted to cop a feel before she fries him? What can I say? She's a disturbed young woman. :lol:
Evidently:)
jimmyolsenblues
11-09-2007, 07:32 AM
i think the writers are intentionally writing lana so that we hate her.
i mean if she loves clark so much, she hates lex so much, why not superspeed pull away when he kisses her.
i think the writers sit down and say, "How can we infuriate the viewers this week?"
closetclana
11-09-2007, 08:08 AM
Love and hate are very close emotions. I think Lex was right about Lana in that she feels a lot more passionate about him than Clark.
However, It didn't look to me like Lana was much into kissing Lex. Perhaps for a small moment it made her remember the good times they had together and how a part of her would always love him because of that (abusive relationships can be so complicated) but for the most part I think she was thinking "How can I get Lex to tell me what I want to know" or "I'm really excited to finally kill Lex."
As for me the viewer - I though it was awesome.
BadToad
11-09-2007, 08:26 AM
I'd say it was Passion *and* Something Else. Lex and Lana really seem like 2 peas in a pod right now.
svfan50
11-09-2007, 08:27 AM
Hey guys..!! Why can't anybody think that Lex might be a pretty good kisser!!!! And Clark..not so much....hehe..!!!
chlo-el
11-09-2007, 08:29 AM
I think it was played out beautifully Lana knows that her and Lex are the same. And Lex sees her for exactly who she is and doesn't put her on a pedestal. I think she wants Clark to see her the same way that Lex sees her.
petewillreturn
11-09-2007, 08:30 AM
I’d say passion. I hope, because I like the story line: Lana trying to fight her feelings of desire for Lex.
kal-el_Girl
11-09-2007, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by svfan50
Hey guys..!! Why can't anybody think that Lex might be a pretty good kisser!!!! And Clark..not so much....hehe..!!!
clark not a good kisser? :confused:
IMPOSSIBLE!!!
I must refuse that idea enter my mind :rotfl:
svfan50
11-09-2007, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
clark not a good kisser? :confused:
IMPOSSIBLE!!!
I must refuse that idea enter my mind :rotfl:
haha....I am NOT talking about Tom Welling..!! But its Clark!!!! he is always so intimidated by Lana...he might not be a very good kisser with Lana..!!! and besides...Lana is not the most intelligent person on world......she might find Lex better at kissing..!! We all agree she is a "disturbed young woman"..hehee...
Alexander III
11-09-2007, 08:39 AM
Ewww passionated kiss w/ Lana?? Mann...I'd rather see Lex kissing Kara :lol:
theWatcher
11-09-2007, 08:47 AM
Love is a curious thing, confusing and devious at times. Lana portryaed this very well. However, in my personal opinion, It looked to as if Lana was leading Lex into a false sense of hope. During the kiss she did grab his throat and started to crush it. Odd that it was taking her so long. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely without the wisdom and knowledge that must accompany it.
berniepooh
11-09-2007, 08:48 AM
Last season Lana said "I love both of you." I think that line still holds true for her character. Lana loves Lex and Clark in different ways for different reasons. She has never been a kind, loving or forgiving character. She wants to be, just like Lex wants to be a good person, but neither of them can stop themselves from being overpowered by the dark side of their souls.
Chrisluvstommy
11-09-2007, 08:51 AM
I don't think it was a passionate kiss on Lana's part but I think she does have some feelings for the man she thought Lex was or could have been
STFanatic
11-09-2007, 09:10 AM
You know, back a few years ago I don't think I could have even imagined discussing "A dark side of Lana's soul".
From years of reading and watching Lana in comics (dating back to the early 60's Lois Lane comics and before), I would have never thought it possible.
Amazing how things have turned out.
petewillreturn
11-09-2007, 09:15 AM
I agree. This is now my favorite ship. Well maybe because I know Cloise can’t happen in Smallville. I think that Lex loves her the best way he can, which isn’t healthy, but makes for an interesting story line.
Twitch
11-09-2007, 09:32 AM
100% passion, no doubt about it.
Bigx07
11-09-2007, 10:04 AM
Lana loved it. Pretty soon she will be running right back to him.
Mello Penelo
11-09-2007, 10:04 AM
Lana totally wanted Lex.
Ilovebeinglost
11-09-2007, 10:16 AM
Clark hasn't much experience with kissing but Lois sure loved it. But maybe the bad boy is better at a lot of things. He's had more experience.
I think it's passion and hate all rolled into one. She had superpowers she could have pushed him away but she loved it for a few seconds.:p
Polomontana
11-09-2007, 10:20 AM
Maybe Clark is to vanilla for Lana and Lex opened up a side of her that she actually likes.
I bet the next time Lex gets Lana alone he will go for it.
paolinki25
11-09-2007, 10:37 AM
I don't know. These writers have pulled off so many crazy things, I don't know if Lex was just manipulating her so she won't kill him or if there are residual feelings there.
ginnyfan
11-09-2007, 10:37 AM
Passionate... fill in the blank.
There's a think line between love and hate. Or as borednow would say... Love and Hate are two horns on the same goat. :rotfl:
myankskent
11-09-2007, 10:43 AM
It's so hard to examine this scene. As I've said on another thread, the cutting of the scene was terrible. One minute Lana was wearing a jacket, then the next she wasn't. Therefore, the kiss is kind of tainted from that standpoint because I really don't know what the writers were trying to get across.
IMO, Lex's side of the kiss is very ambiguous. Did he kiss her because he still wants her or was he trying to manipulate Lana? I really have no idea. As far as Lana goes, I think she gave in only to tease Lex. It was sort of like she let him think that she wanted him too and then suddenly, grabbed his neck and threw him away from her. Wiping her mouth was another indication that she wasn't too pleased with the kiss, IMO.
STFanatic
11-09-2007, 11:28 AM
Also, when she ripped open Lex's shirt, he was wearing a tie just seconds before, when she reached up to grab the shirt, it was gone.
Odysseus
11-09-2007, 11:39 AM
There was definitely passion there. Lex was right when he said Lana's hatred of him outweighs her love for Clark. Lana is quite obviously obsessed with Lex.
I'm actually liking this storyline. The idea that Lex and Lana are both twisted and corrupt and bring that out in each other. Lex said something along the lines of "we're the same" to Lana, and I actually think it's true.
Even if Lexana doesn't "officially" get back together I think their mutual obsession with each other will drive them both to be darker.
msleggie
11-09-2007, 01:26 PM
Posted by BadToad: I'd say it was Passion *and* Something Else. Lex and Lana really seem like 2 peas in a pod right now.
I agree, it was a little of both (passion and something else) going on, those two were meant for each other.
Coyote
11-09-2007, 02:07 PM
Lana's real passion has always been for Lex. She has some issues that made her angry with him, but underneath that she still really wants Lex. She has tried to want Clark instead, because she thinks of Clark as "good" and believes that being with Clark would be "the right thing to do." But it's Lex that she's obsessed with, and has strong feelings for, and there are probably more to those feelings than hate alone. Anyone who has had a conflict in a relationship knows that a person can be very angry with their partner over some issue or other, but still continue to love them as well. It doesn't turn off like a light switch.
petewillreturn
11-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
Lana's real passion has always been for Lex. She has some issues that made her angry with him, but underneath that she still really wants Lex. She has tried to want Clark instead, because she thinks of Clark as "good" and believes that being with Clark would be "the right thing to do." But it's Lex that she's obsessed with, and has strong feelings for, and there are probably more to those feelings than hate alone. Anyone who has had a conflict in a relationship knows that a person can be very angry with their partner over some issue or other, but still continue to love them as well. It doesn't turn off like a light switch.
I hope this is the way the writers are thinking. I also believe that Clark saw Lana as “good” and perfect and thinking that she was good for him. On the other hand Clark sees Lois as someone imperfect, so he denies his feelings for her. Maybe now he will open up his eyes.
SaberFireTiger
11-09-2007, 02:35 PM
I think passion. That is in fact what started them off in the first place. I don't deny that there was something else behind it though. Lana was obviously caught off guard by it, that's why she dropped the cord I think. Still some lingering feelings from what once was. Even though she hates him now, she did love him at one point I believe.
lilkoolmaria
11-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Passion, no doubt about it.
All about Clark
11-09-2007, 03:18 PM
Passion/hatred mixed together and combined with both being human/flawed. Lex prayed on her by saying, "Clark is different, you and I are the same." That was a ploy he used to knock her off balance and combined with the forceful kiss, I'd say it worked.
I don't think Lana wants him in any way, it was the heat of the moment kind of thing, and Lana quickly came to her senses. I don't think she wants Lex over Clark. I think she has always wanted Clark. But Lex was always there to give her what she needs.
CLanaF23
11-09-2007, 04:58 PM
i didnt see any passion in that kiss..it was just lex's lips pushing on lana's she wasnt kissing him back...i think lana hates lex and lex just wanted to stop lana..with that nasty kiss..yea lana has become a lil too in to gettin revenge on lex but i dont think she has feelings for him.....she loves clark <33
operadiva
11-09-2007, 06:25 PM
Maybe you didn't and that is ok..but i sure did..i have watched it again..There is no denying that she felt something in that kiss..oops...
Karafan
11-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Lana is in love with Lex and what he can give her power and money. She likes it! Plus Lex does not expect perfection out of her like Clark does. The kiss was definatley passion compared to the kiss she gave Clark. That kiss was lukewarm. Long live evil Lana.
If she act like this in the future I definatley want her with Lex. Two peas in a pod!
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2007, 08:41 PM
Not exactly passion when she uses her hand to wipe off his kiss........After throwing him 20 feet in the air.
GhostRaider
11-09-2007, 10:06 PM
I am gonna have to vote for something else on this on infact this is what I said about it on another thread:
"When I saw the kiss I was like WTH not a startup to Lexanna again.
But alas my fears were put to rest when Lana put Lex in a choke hold, tosses him across the room and then proceeds to wipe her mouth like she had just been kissed by a diseased monkey lol and even still goes on to rant to Clark how the world would be so much better with Lex Luthor dead.
But as far as any feelings for Lex I will agree she has feelings for the man, but it isn't love. It is hatred in its purest form.
Heck even Lex said as much when he said Lana still has feelings for him and that her hatred for him was more important to her than her love for Clark to the point that it has now become an obsession."
To add to that I think the fact that Lana knows that Lex faked her pregnancy by loading her up with hormones she didn't know she was taking, and then killed off her fake baby by convincing her SHE had a miscarriage would kill any shreds of passion and love she had for the man. I mean a woman isn't ever going to forget about something like that. Also lets not forget this isn't the first time she has tried to get rid of our bald villain although I will say that her first choice of action was to be inactive because if I remember correctly she was more than happy to let Spanky die in those collapsing tunnels in Nemesis until she found out Clark was also trapped down in those tunnels as well. Lana has demonstrated going back into late last season that she doesn't have anything but utter hatred and contempt for Lex and thinks the world would be a better place if he was dead even if it meant killing him with her own hands.
LKent113
11-09-2007, 10:59 PM
Lex did it to throw her off, but I don't think there was any passion to it. Lex moved in to kiss lana, but take notice she doesn't move in to him or anything, just slowly sneaks her hand up while he isnt payin attention and then before he realizes it she choes him and throws himacross the room. I don't think there was any more to it. Also Lana wiped her mouth in Disgust after the kiss. No one was looking so she didnt have to cover, she didnt it because she didnt enjoy it. The obsession may be the passionate part, but thats the end of it, nothing more I dont think
svtwamedfan05
11-09-2007, 11:29 PM
Now if there was any Chemistry in this episode it was between Lex and Lana. You can definitely tell Lana still loves Lex.
Mello Penelo
11-09-2007, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
i think the writers sit down and say, "How can we infuriate the viewers this week?"
And hoooooooly crap. I Hulk out when Smallville is over.
smallvillerocks45
11-09-2007, 11:45 PM
I'm not sure if it was a passionate kiss on Lana's behalf, I mean, she did wipe her mouth after she threw him across the room. Since when does that spell passion?
Lex, on the other hand, does "love" her in his own twisted way, but more than that, I think he just loved the fact that he was able to - if even for a moment - tame something that wasn't his, while the was no way Clark could make hear stop without taking away the powers too.
I guess this would qualify a "something else" vote. That kiss was about power, IMO.
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Not exactly passion when she uses her hand to wipe off his kiss........After throwing him 20 feet in the air.
I agree!
kentfamily
11-09-2007, 11:48 PM
I chose other. I sure hope it wasnt passion. That whole Lex and Lana thing gave me the creepy crawlies, heeby jeebies in Season 6. It kind of made my stomach churn when Lex kissed Lana in this episode, the whole bit kind of made me cringe. Maybe, cause I think Lex is a bit ugly and geekish and too skinny. I rather see Lana kiss Martian Manhunter. He's handsome and he has that SEXY voice.
operadiva
11-11-2007, 12:48 AM
After having Clark she has no satisfaction..So she kissed lex..oh well you can't blame the girl..for that..Lex gives it to her... better than Clark..
Dor el
11-12-2007, 03:07 PM
He was trying to establish himself as the alpha male. All dominating. Worked at least a little. She didn't kill him.
Welling_is_pretty
11-12-2007, 05:15 PM
I noticed that Lana kept her mouth closed while Lex seemed to have his open. More like she was tolerating or surprised by the kiss. So no, I don't think it was passion.
Humdinger
11-12-2007, 07:04 PM
There's something going on there, but I don't think it's passion.
Originally posted by issa
Passion from both parts!
I love your avatar :p
SweetOne
11-13-2007, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by DestinyAw8s
Since when do you have to rip somebody's shirt open to electrocute them?:confused:
LOL......I love it! What an astute observation!
Originally posted by Bigx07
Lana loved it. Pretty soon she will be running right back to him.
God...if she doesn't want to...I'll take her place.
Originally posted by operadiva
After having Clark she has no satisfaction..So she kissed lex..oh well you can't blame the girl..for that..Lex gives it to her... better than Clark..
I have no doubts in my mind that Lex gives it to her...better than Clark. She's a lucky girl in that respect.
Like Mello said Lana TOTALLY wanted Lex!
AliciaBaker
11-13-2007, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
It's so hard to examine this scene. As I've said on another thread, the cutting of the scene was terrible. One minute Lana was wearing a jacket, then the next she wasn't. Therefore, the kiss is kind of tainted from that standpoint because I really don't know what the writers were trying to get across.
IMO, Lex's side of the kiss is very ambiguous. Did he kiss her because he still wants her or was he trying to manipulate Lana? I really have no idea. As far as Lana goes, I think she gave in only to tease Lex. It was sort of like she let him think that she wanted him too and then suddenly, grabbed his neck and threw him away from her. Wiping her mouth was another indication that she wasn't too pleased with the kiss, IMO.
i agree.
the editors are trying to find the jacket still! amateur mistake.
All about Clark
11-13-2007, 02:25 PM
After several viewings, it looked to me like Lex was the passionate one with the hope of saving his life and getting Lana to want him. She caved for a second and dropped the wiring, but quickly regained her position of wanting him dead. Almost as if he has some power on her that weakened her for just a second.
kentfamily
11-13-2007, 07:38 PM
It is really hard to understand where Lana's mind is at because in episode 2, where Lex goes to China. Lana had that gun pointed to him and she couldnt kill him. It seemed that she still had feelings for him then. When Lex took the gun away from her, he had this cofused look on him, like the gun was not a real gun. They emphasized on the gun when he was trying to disarm it. So I am still not sure whether she has feelings for Lex or not.
Then, when did Lex find out about her spying on him with the cameras? If he knew that all along, then he is such a PERVERT. Its as though he is getting his jollies knowing someone is watching him. Sick man. EWWWW!
All about Clark
11-14-2007, 11:28 AM
Indeed, he knew Lana was watching him and he liked it because it meant she still had feelings for him, and it didn't matter if those feelings were good or bad as long as they were directed to him, so yes, sick bastard.
I think Lana's ISIS foundation allowed Lana to wallow in her hatred for Lex and let it build. She might not have hated him enough to kill him in Ep#2 but that changed over time of watching him. Because watching him was consuming her. And Chloe knew this, which is why she terminated it. To kill that focus on Lex, and maybe live life and be there for Clark.
Atomic girl
11-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by svfan50
Hey guys..!! Why can't anybody think that Lex might be a pretty good kisser!!!! And Clark..not so much....hehe..!!! Well we know from Lois that he's at least better than Oliver......
I thought Lex really did have more in common with Lana in this episode. She had power available to her that others don't and chose to use them for her own agenda. Lex has access to so much money that he lives above the next man as well and uses that for his own agenda.
I thought Lana participating in the kiss was involuntary at first, then she came to her senses and reacted negatively to it, hence her wiping her mouth.
With the poor editing, I'm wondering what the scene looked like originally.....
abbaspice1
07-03-2008, 08:24 PM
'There i a thin line between love and hate.'
Lana is obsessed with Lex, she claims to hate LEx, wanted nothing ot do with LEx, yet watches him every single minute that she can.
I do believe she protest too much.
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