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xrayvision
11-09-2007, 01:23 AM
Vote for who you consider your least favorite character in Wrath.

Demne
11-09-2007, 01:33 AM
Chloe, she is always getting involved in Clarks relationships. She needs to stay the hell out!

ginnyfan
11-09-2007, 01:40 AM
I actually enjoyed everyone... :)

xrayvision
11-09-2007, 02:04 AM
My least favorite was Lana. She was a total scumbag in this one, much worse than in any other season 7 episode.

jr23tw
11-09-2007, 04:06 AM
Chloe.

BeldarofRemulak
11-09-2007, 05:00 AM
lana....her character has become unbelieveable/unlikable to me

LoisKent2006
11-09-2007, 05:06 AM
Lana! What an evil b***h!
She is the reason that makes Clark look like a completely fool!:mad: She has retarded him from growth for too long!
Wake up, Clark! How long do you plan to disappoint me?:mad:

LunaItaliana
11-09-2007, 05:06 AM
Definitely Shelby for not eating the script ;) and Clark too

daughter of the child
11-09-2007, 06:21 AM
clark has to protect himself, lana is no longer lana, and he has to let her go- she has fallen to the darkness, evil, lex, has consumed her

samanta
11-09-2007, 06:26 AM
It's Lois for me this episode.
Kissing her boss :mad:

kryptonaidxh
11-09-2007, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by LoisKent2006
Lana! What an evil b***h!
She is the reason that makes Clark look like a completely fool!:mad: She has retarded him from growth for too long!
Wake up, Clark! How long do you plan to disappoint me?:mad:

;) :p the same for me: the evil b**ch Lana!, oh I really disliked her a lot.:p :(

harryandginnyfanatic
11-09-2007, 07:34 AM
Grant.

Lois deserves better than him.

petewillreturn
11-09-2007, 08:22 AM
Jimmy and Supergirl.

BadToad
11-09-2007, 08:29 AM
Lana was the character I liked the least. Not that she isn't more interesting in her craziness and evilness. But I can't really like her.

shadow4486
11-09-2007, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Demne
Chloe, she is always getting involved in Clarks relationships. She needs to stay the hell out!

Bite your tongue! Chloe brought it this week. And sometimes Clark needs someone to bring his Super-A** down to earth.

Alexander III
11-09-2007, 08:53 AM
I hate Grant, hate him, HATE HIM!

Twitch
11-09-2007, 10:05 AM
I liked everyone in this episode, but if I had to choose it would have to be Lana, there were some lines she said that I really didn't agree with.

Mello Penelo
11-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Hated Lana. But I give Miss Congeniaity to BDA for being such a BDA.


Originally posted by shadow4486
Bite your tongue! Chloe brought it this week. And sometimes Clark needs someone to bring his Super-A** down to earth.

Don't tell him to bite his tongue. He has just as much right to hate Chloe as anyone you hate.

paolinki25
11-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Lana, of course.

margroks
11-09-2007, 12:28 PM
Clark should have known better. He came off as an insenstitive selfish jerk to have sex with a girl he knew wasn't right and to ignore the danger to her having his abilities or to Smallville (the earthquakes-gross and disgusting and stupid), to ignore Chloe's calls when she was worried for him (heroing is a 24/7 gig; you don;t get to ignore calls no matter what you're doing; it's like being a doctor), making her drive three hours to see if he was okay when he could have taken two seconds to call back.

And he was a jerk and an idiot afterward to make excuses for Lana, going to Lex to try to get her off the hook when she did the harm and she should have gone herself. Also, he should have thrown her ass out after learning she had kidnapped and tortured Lionel. Hell, he should have sent her packing to begin with since Lana has money from Nell, had money form selling the Talon and embezzeled ten million dollars from Lex which he had been told. SHe doesn't need to stay with Clark and sponge off him. She needs to get out and pay for her many crimes and Clark looked really bad trying to again get her off the hook from paying the consequences. Clark's the hero; he should do the right thing not the wrong one and this was all clearly wrong from the beginning and he knew it. He is an idiot not a hero.

Poweranimals
11-09-2007, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Demne
Chloe, she is always getting involved in Clarks relationships. She needs to stay the hell out! Amen. Chloe's just jealous. I was so waiting for Lana to call her out on it. I hope she does in the future.

MetroGirl06
11-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Lana for being a a vengeance freak. Clark for justifying her actions and not getting angry at her. Grant for being annoying as hell.

Odysseus
11-09-2007, 01:56 PM
I HATE Grant with a passion. He needs to just go away and never come back. He's so annoying.

Coyote
11-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Chloe bugged me. She really should get her own life.

darkone
11-09-2007, 03:23 PM
Chloe she's getting on my nerves.Get a life!

lilkoolmaria
11-09-2007, 03:25 PM
Lana.

Oh, and Shelby for not eating the script. :D

Dyanara
11-09-2007, 03:46 PM
Chloe is the only person who seemed to have any sense in this episode. She's the only one who isnt seen people through blinders and I thought it was hella cool how she warned Lana against hurting Clark although I thought it would have made more sense if she had jumped on her butt for hurting Lois.
I chose Grant because he is getting on my nerves! His only purpose was to hire Lois so she could become the star reporter in about 5years. Now he just needs to disappear and I do not want to see lois end up dating him!

Pimson
11-09-2007, 04:36 PM
Lana. She was too evil and cruel in this episode, and we haven't really seen a lot of that side of her before season 7. I'm waiting for them to break up, so Clark can finally get along with Lois sometime.

xrayvision
11-09-2007, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Poweranimals
Amen. Chloe's just jealous. I was so waiting for Lana to call her out on it. I hope she does in the future.

No Chloe wasn't jealous. In the past she was, but not in Wrath. She realized a crazy, evil, messed up girl who Clark can not fault for anything. She saw the next Lex Luthor, someone who claimed to be helping meteor infected people (which she is one of) and who really had a room spying on Lex. Not only that, but she attacked Chloe's cousin and sent her to the hospital. And she did not tell Clark about Isis, and Chloe found out why. If I remember correctly, Clark did not see that room with all those monitors (I have to go back to watch & make sure).

Chloe saw Lana for what she is. There was no jealousy there. She called her for it because she cares about Clark, and she did the same to Lex in Fragile when she saw the predator that Lex is approaching Lana, who she cared for greatly as a friend.

CLanaF23
11-09-2007, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by LoisKent2006
Lana! What an evil b***h!
She is the reason that makes Clark look like a completely fool!:mad: She has retarded him from growth for too long!
Wake up, Clark! How long do you plan to disappoint me?:mad:

how the hell is she a evil bi***?? she aint done nothing to clark....all she tried to do is give lex wat he deserved yea she shouldnt have lied...but she aint evil..she just has let her hate and want of revenge take over her...and chloe was the worst in this episode...who the hell is she to tell lana she dont noe if shes gonna be loyal to clark? of course lana is...chloe is the one that betrayed him before...and i really dont like grant..

xrayvision
11-09-2007, 04:59 PM
^^Well, let's see. She attacked Clark, sent Lois to the hospital, abused Clark's powers to nearly kill Lex, and forced her will on Grant. A good person doesn't do those things.

Letting hate and revenge take over your life makes you become evil. Lionel said it right in Action.

LiveForever
11-09-2007, 05:51 PM
Least favorite was Chloe, and just when I was fianlly starting to like her.

Poweranimals
11-09-2007, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
No Chloe wasn't jealous. In the past she was, but not in Wrath. She realized a crazy, evil, messed up girl who Clark can not fault for anything. She saw the next Lex Luthor, someone who claimed to be helping meteor infected people (which she is one of) and who really had a room spying on Lex. Not only that, but she attacked Chloe's cousin and sent her to the hospital. And she did not tell Clark about Isis, and Chloe found out why. If I remember correctly, Clark did not see that room with all those monitors (I have to go back to watch & make sure).

Chloe saw Lana for what she is. There was no jealousy there. She called her for it because she cares about Clark, and she did the same to Lex in Fragile when she saw the predator that Lex is approaching Lana, who she cared for greatly as a friend. Oh please! She is so jealous. Clark even called her out on it last season as did Jimmy. Lana didn't do anything to hurt Clark. She was trying to protect him. Not the best of methods, but she still only wanted to stop Lex; who let's face it; is only going to go on and kill more people..

BadToad
11-09-2007, 06:35 PM
I don't believe Lana was about protecting Clark at all. She was all about her own personal revenge. I thought Chloe was right on the money about how Lana might drag Clark down by pulling him into her own vendetta against Lex. Go Chloe!!

Theshadow129x
11-09-2007, 07:03 PM
lana because of everything she has been doing. she was just vile and evil in this episode. more evil than lex has been so far

CK4eva
11-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Definitely Grant. He is really not that good for Lois. He is definitely up to something.

xrayvision
11-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Poweranimals
Oh please! She is so jealous. Clark even called her out on it last season as did Jimmy. Lana didn't do anything to hurt Clark. She was trying to protect him. Not the best of methods, but she still only wanted to stop Lex; who let's face it; is only going to go on and kill more people..

Once again, Chloe's statement to Lana specifically in this episode had nothing to do with jealousy. It was a statement made after a summation of what she has seen Lana do as of late. What Jimmy said about Chloe wasn't jealousy, but more like her pining for Clark. Jealousy would mean that Clark would have had a girlfriend last season and Chloe would have been jealous of her. Clark had no girlfriend in season 6, so she was no jealous last season. She hasn't been jealous this season either, but rather heartbroken because of her inability to tell Jimmy the truth.

But that had nothing to do with what happened in Wrath. You're saying Lana isn't doing evil things. Yet Lex 2-3 seasons ago didn't think he was doing evil things either by pursuing Lionel and getting revenge on him by taking Luthorcorp. Look what happened to Lex thereafter. His additional power led to things like 33.1, investigating a spaceship, hiding a dead body to cover up his quest for alien stones, getting possessed by Zod, setting up a hostage situation to see if his former best friend had powers, and more. Lana is headed down that same road. And Chloe picked up on it. If Clark wasn't being written like a moron (which he is just to prolong this Clana crap), he'd realize it too. Lex certainly has and so has Lionel. Are Lex & Lionel jealous too?

Sending Lois to the hospital was not something she did to Clark, but it's something that showed Chloe Lana's true character. And her true character affects anyone she interacts with...even Clark.

How many times has Lex wanted to get back at Lionel only for it to hurt others? Let me create a great parallel. Lex in Insurgence after finding the bugs that Lionel had planted in the mansion and lost out on a multi-million dollar contract paid Kern, Pine, and company to plant bugs so he can get revenge. And what happened? A hostage situation where the life of not only the target of Lex's revenge (Lionel) was jeopardized, but also that of Martha Kent, someone Lex cared a lot of. Does the situation in that episode seem familiar?

I will predict from now, not knowing what will happen, that there will be an episode where Lana in her pursuit for revenge against Lex will also put Clark's life (and maybe Chloe's & Lois' lives too) in danger. I'm certain there will be such an episode and it will directly parallel with Insurgence.

LoisJoanneKent
11-09-2007, 09:20 PM
What a massive surprise that the pink princess is winning this poll!!!

By the way, did anyone else think the Lana, Lois thrust kick was kind of fake and wimpy...Guess that's the only way Lana could ever dream of beating Lois...with Clark's powers.

theotherJane
11-09-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm gonna have to go with Grant, and probably because every time I look at the guy, I think of Zach from The O.C., and here we are how many episodes later and I'm still having trouble buying into the whole tough editor persona.

LoveHurts38
11-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Lana that is my final answer.


Originally posted by LoisJoanneKent
What a massive surprise that the pink princess is winning this poll!!!

By the way, did anyone else think the Lana, Lois thrust kick was kind of fake and wimpy...Guess that's the only way Lana could ever dream of beating Lois...with Clark's powers.

So true its only because of the powers:lol:

svtwamedfan05
11-09-2007, 11:42 PM
Ding, Ding, Ding Big surprise here LANA LANG


Originally posted by BadToad
I don't believe Lana was about protecting Clark at all. She was all about her own personal revenge. I thought Chloe was right on the money about how Lana might drag Clark down by pulling him into her own vendetta against Lex. Go Chloe!!

I totally agree 100%


Originally posted by LoisJoanneKent
What a massive surprise that the pink princess is winning this poll!!!

By the way, did anyone else think the Lana, Lois thrust kick was kind of fake and wimpy...Guess that's the only way Lana could ever dream of beating Lois...with Clark's powers.


lol so true

Estro-gen X
11-10-2007, 07:43 AM
clark. He finally hears the truth from lana's mouth and he passes it off as an effect of her powers! idiot!

xrayvision
11-10-2007, 09:42 AM
^^Well, he is an idiot. What I wish he would have done is gone to the FOS and asked Jor-El to send him back to the day of the tornados and instead of saving her, he would let that ungrateful dirtbag eat those words of hers and perish so that he would have been trained by now & JK would still be alive.

svtwamedfan05
11-10-2007, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by xrayvision
^^Well, he is an idiot. What I wish he would have done is gone to the FOS and asked Jor-El to send him back to the day of the tornados and instead of saving her, he would let that ungrateful dirtbag eat those words of hers and perish so that he would have been trained by now & JK would still be alive.

nicely said

miks
11-10-2007, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by CLanaF23
how the hell is she a evil bi***?? she aint done nothing to clark....all she tried to do is give lex wat he deserved yea she shouldnt have lied...but she aint evil..she just has let her hate and want of revenge take over her...and chloe was the worst in this episode...who the hell is she to tell lana she dont noe if shes gonna be loyal to clark? of course lana is...chloe is the one that betrayed him before...and i really dont like grant..

She's an evil biatch because she tried to KILL lex, yeah he's evil and done some horrible things, but what sense does it made to try and kill him?! So she could wind up in jail? She didn't just lie, evil doesn't come from lying, it comes from trying to kill someone! Trying so hard to get your revenge that you're blinded by anything else.

Chloe is Clark and Lana's best friend. If she sees either of her friends in trouble she's going to try her hardest to prevent it, wouldn't you do the same? You're right she betrayed him, everyone makes mistakes, she realized that mistake, and Clark made her pay for what she did. But now that Lana is making 2 million mistakes its okay for him to look the other way? Come on now that's being hypocritical

msleggie
11-10-2007, 02:37 PM
Clark all the way, he is such a moron, he really pissed me off this episode!

margroks
11-10-2007, 02:40 PM
They went to great lengths to make clear Chloe was standing up for Clark as any good friend would. It's absurd to call her jealous; that was very pointedly not the case. There is no evidence whatsoever to indicate Chloe was jealous.

Not that Clark deserves such a good firend because he was a nasty jerk, too. Some viewers don't seem to remember that Jonathan DIED as a result of having Clark's powers for only a little while. That alone was why Clark should have taken them back immediately. It was shameful that Clark couldn't resist his base impulses and screwed this nasty girl with no regard for the harm that would befall her. He ever TOLD her that and then, he screwed her anyway because Lana wanted to have his abilities so she could seduce him then hurt people she hated, which in the end, became Clark as well as Lex.

He also knew Eric Summers became crazy and dangerous when he got Clark's powers (and the transfer should have been complete; that was total BS, the most contrived plot ever, just so they could trash Clark's character once more time by having him act like a complete moron, ignore what he knew would happen and screw Lana Lang again. ONce wasn't enough; they had to do it again.

It's ridiculous to blame Chloe for doing the right thing and absolve Lana and Clark from doing the absolute wrong thing. The writers are screaming at us that Lana is BAD and Clark is stupid and blind to not see it and still want such an awful girl. Most people have known this from the beginning, especially comic fans who know how horrible Lana is there but it was repugnant to have Clark sleep with this girl who muders, kidnaps and tortures other people because she's a lying, vengeful person incapable of caring for another human being.

Lana has always loved only the girl she sees in the morror and she has always manipulated everyone around her to suit herself, getting maximum sympathy over her parents deaths in the meteor shower. Clark has always looked pathetic that he lets himself be taken in by this girl. He looked really bad the first timewhen he had sex with her right after she killed her BF's mother and had the Luthors cover it up for her. Now, he looks doubly bad to screw her again when the writers show the audience how she lies and plots to hurt people and knows she can pull the wool over Clark's eyes by claiming other people are out to get her and making up stories about her when, in fact, it's all true and she is nothing but a nasty little witch.

Decent human beings do not condone people who kill, kidnap, torture and embezzle and those people shouldn't get away with it. Heroes are supposed to see past the pretty facades and see the evil inside. THere is no excuse for people who do these things no matter what extenuating circumstances they claim; they are evil and wrong and the hero is supposed to bring them to justice. Real heroes aren't taken in by their lies. Real heroes aren't taken in so easily as Clark has been. Sadly, Clark has failed his test of being the hero twice now just so he could have sex with this disgusting girl; it was his business to see through her and he didn't even try.

The only real hero in this episode was Chloe, who saw through the facade at last and called the evildoer on her crap. It is the hero's business to do what CHloe did and since the Clark is a hero no longer, she had to step in. Heroes right wrongs and put the badguys on notice. Heroes sacrifice their personal lives and accept their destinies in order to help others. Chloe did that with flying colors while Clark failed miserably.

Dew_drops
11-10-2007, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by margroks
It was shameful that Clark couldn't resist his base impulses and screwed this nasty girl with no regard for the harm that would befall her. He ever TOLD her that and then, he screwed her anyway because Lana wanted to have his abilities so she could seduce him then hurt people she hated, which in the end, became Clark as well as Lex.

I don't even know where to begin in trying to make sense of that. Lana seduced her boyfriend to get his abilities so she could get revenge on his enemies?what?!


Originally posted by margroks
Most people have known this from the beginning, especially comic fans who know how horrible Lana is there but it was repugnant to have Clark sleep with this girl who muders, kidnaps and tortures other people because she's a lying, vengeful person incapable of caring for another human being.

:lol:


Originally posted by margroks
Heroes are supposed to see past the pretty facades and see the evil inside. they claim; they are evil and wrong and the hero is supposed to bring them to justice. Real heroes aren't taken in by their lies. Real heroes aren't taken in so easily as Clark has been. Sadly, Clark has failed his test of being the hero twice now just so he could have sex with this disgusting girl; it was his business to see through her and he didn't even try.


No, heroes (IMO) are supposed to look for the good people. Clark always tried to see the good in Lex eventhough his parents warned him. Heroes are heroes because they dont look for the bad in people - they try to save everyone. even the ones we deem are beyond redemption.

borednow
11-10-2007, 09:09 PM
Clark, because I expect more from him than this... come on he got it from the horses mouth and he still doesn't believe it. :mad: Wake up already! The only thing that makes me not want to chalk it up and start believing the Jimmy Olsen is the real Superman theory is that Clark didn't say that he loved her unconditionally at the end. Maybe just maybe he is starting to get it.

smallvillerocks45
11-10-2007, 09:42 PM
Lois got on my nerves this time around. Blasphemous, I know, but come on, what was she thinking? Lana is pushing Grant up against the wall and literally lifting him off the ground, and Lois thinks she can just jump in and over power her? It was dumb of her...and I'm not saying it's right, but she had that toss through the window coming. Lana was in crazy mode, and Lois just jumps in like she owns the situation. What was she thinking? Ugh, I know she's supposed to be miss tough girl and all, but sometimes you have to know when to pick your battles...

TKFlash
11-10-2007, 10:13 PM
Lana, she is half paast crazy and can't control her emotions.

Bonita_LovesSuperman
11-10-2007, 10:22 PM
Lana basher's again.. smallvillerocks45, I agree with you, Lois shouldn't have jumped in, it was funny getting her tossed through the window..

Yes Clark SCREWED LANA. They both needed to release all the stress out of their bodies, Lana was so crazy she just needed a screw, now she's as happy as a pig in mud.

POWER TO THE SEXQUAKE

margroks
11-11-2007, 09:42 AM
No, I did not sya Lana seduced him to get his powers; she had his powers and seduced him in order to keep him from doing what he knew, deep down, was the right thing and that was to take them back immediately so neither Lana or anyone else would be harmed by having them. I think I made that clear.

Lana is a nasty evil witch; the writers are making that crystal clear. She used sex to delay Clark from doing the right thing. Period. Clark was the very worst character because he KNEW it was wrong to allow her to keep the powers yet he allowed it so he could take advantage of her condition. That makes Clark not a hero; he was a bastard to have no care for Lana's well being so he could screw her. Lana was right beside him because she manipulated him into allowing her to keep the powers so she could hurt the people she hated.

ANyone who can honestly say a girl who kills, kidnaps, tortures and embezzles is all sweetness and light can feel free to explain how breaking laws that all civilized societies would consider immoral and, in fact, criminal, don't apply to Lana Lang. Feel free to explain why it was okay for Clark, the supposed hero of this story, to ignore his clear knowledge that physical harm AND psychotic behavior is the result of a human gaining his abilities through the Kryptonite transfer so he can screw Lana.

Further, explain why CHloe, the girl who actually stood up to Lana after fully discovering Lana's underhandied and violent behavior, who called her on her crap, taking the hero's place while he was off making excuses for Lana instead of repenting for his own deplorable behavior, should have anything to to be sorry for.

And no, the hero's job is NOT to ONLY see the good in people and newsflash: there IS no good in Lana Lang. SHe has always been the same self-centered, manipulative little witch she is now but for some reason people, Clark the worst among them, refuse to see it. THe hero's place is to root out evil and make those who follow Evil's path pay for their crimes. It's completely outrageous to make Lana Lang exempt from paying for crimes the rest of us would go to prison for. That's just crap. THe hero is supposed to see through the sweet facade evil often presents to the ansty black heart that beats inside. If the hero can't do that then he's too stupid to be the hero. Over six years is way too long.

Clark should have seen through Lana back when she killed a woman and had Lex cover it up. That was his an irrideemable mistake and again, he never questions Lana because he wants to have sex with her. Now he's compounded that one with another, even more egregious blunder and more people have gotten hurt as a result. WHat if precious, Lana dies of a heart attack now just like his father? Of course, since Lana deliberately distracted Clark from what he knew was his rightful duty to take the powers back then she'd deserve that as her just punishment and Clark will have to live with that for the rest of his long life. What if Lana had permenantly injured or killed Nois or Lex or even CHloe? That would have been his fault, too, as it is his fault they got injured anyway. Heroes always go for the greater good and Clark failed miserably this time.

It's ridiculous to claim people are hating or bashing Lana when the writers are making her this nasty. It's all right there on the screen; we don';t have to interpret it, we just have to watch and see it plain as day. It's what the producers have been saying they were going to do with Lana for years now. They've said they were going to make her clearly EVIL and they have.

Lana is evil and Clark is a failure because he ignores it. He's never looked worse.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-11-2007, 09:45 AM
Lana's not really that bad. She's probably just in a bad mood. People get like that sometimes.


this girl who muders

Technically, her clone was never alive. So it's not murder.

Goobs
11-11-2007, 09:54 AM
lana has murdered many times on this show. Though often in defense. Sort of like the other Luthors on this show.

wolverine316
11-11-2007, 10:42 AM
I chose Lois. Instead of going on the path to becoming an iconic reporter. She settles for being a ho.

Sweetie
11-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by margroks
They went to great lengths to make clear Chloe was standing up for Clark as any good friend would. It's absurd to call her jealous; that was very pointedly not the case. There is no evidence whatsoever to indicate Chloe was jealous.

Not that Clark deserves such a good firend because he was a nasty jerk, too. Some viewers don't seem to remember that Jonathan DIED as a result of having Clark's powers for only a little while. That alone was why Clark should have taken them back immediately. It was shameful that Clark couldn't resist his base impulses and screwed this nasty girl with no regard for the harm that would befall her. He ever TOLD her that and then, he screwed her anyway because Lana wanted to have his abilities so she could seduce him then hurt people she hated, which in the end, became Clark as well as Lex.

He also knew Eric Summers became crazy and dangerous when he got Clark's powers (and the transfer should have been complete; that was total BS, the most contrived plot ever, just so they could trash Clark's character once more time by having him act like a complete moron, ignore what he knew would happen and screw Lana Lang again. ONce wasn't enough; they had to do it again.

It's ridiculous to blame Chloe for doing the right thing and absolve Lana and Clark from doing the absolute wrong thing. The writers are screaming at us that Lana is BAD and Clark is stupid and blind to not see it and still want such an awful girl. Most people have known this from the beginning, especially comic fans who know how horrible Lana is there but it was repugnant to have Clark sleep with this girl who muders, kidnaps and tortures other people because she's a lying, vengeful person incapable of caring for another human being.

Lana has always loved only the girl she sees in the morror and she has always manipulated everyone around her to suit herself, getting maximum sympathy over her parents deaths in the meteor shower. Clark has always looked pathetic that he lets himself be taken in by this girl. He looked really bad the first timewhen he had sex with her right after she killed her BF's mother and had the Luthors cover it up for her. Now, he looks doubly bad to screw her again when the writers show the audience how she lies and plots to hurt people and knows she can pull the wool over Clark's eyes by claiming other people are out to get her and making up stories about her when, in fact, it's all true and she is nothing but a nasty little witch.

Decent human beings do not condone people who kill, kidnap, torture and embezzle and those people shouldn't get away with it. Heroes are supposed to see past the pretty facades and see the evil inside. THere is no excuse for people who do these things no matter what extenuating circumstances they claim; they are evil and wrong and the hero is supposed to bring them to justice. Real heroes aren't taken in by their lies. Real heroes aren't taken in so easily as Clark has been. Sadly, Clark has failed his test of being the hero twice now just so he could have sex with this disgusting girl; it was his business to see through her and he didn't even try.

The only real hero in this episode was Chloe, who saw through the facade at last and called the evildoer on her crap. It is the hero's business to do what CHloe did and since the Clark is a hero no longer, she had to step in. Heroes right wrongs and put the badguys on notice. Heroes sacrifice their personal lives and accept their destinies in order to help others. Chloe did that with flying colors while Clark failed miserably.


Great post :)

Runestone
11-11-2007, 01:47 PM
Definitely Lana. I mean, I'm glad they're finally letting her true colours show and are calling her out for all the bullsh*t she's put everyone through, but she's still being power-hungry and manipulative.

CDLBLUE
11-11-2007, 02:02 PM
Totally agree with MARGROKS, Lana had the opportunity to better understand Clark and Clark's powers, to be able to feel some sense of empathy with him, and all that he has gone through over the years, instead she used his great powers for petty revenge, she does not share his values, ( God knows she does not share his morals ), all of this can only lead to the final and long overdue disintegration of this by now twisted and unsavory relationship.

xrayvision
11-11-2007, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by CDLBLUE
Totally agree with MARGROKS, Lana had the opportunity to better understand Clark and Clark's powers, to be able to feel some sense of empathy with him, and all that he has gone through over the years, instead she used his great powers for petty revenge, she does not share his values, ( God knows she does not share his morals ), all of this can only lead to the final and long overdue disintegration of this by now twisted and unsavory relationship.

See, if they would have made this episode be about Lana being humbled from having Clark's powers and feel empathy for him where she would be diverted from the path of revenge she's on, I would have thought great things about this episode. It was the exact opposite of this, and it was horrible. Clark was further tainted by association with Lana, especially when the 2 had sex and how he knew beforehand that he felt something about her had changed. The worst though was Clark blaming himself.


Originally posted by margroks
No, I did not sya Lana seduced him to get his powers; she had his powers and seduced him in order to keep him from doing what he knew, deep down, was the right thing and that was to take them back immediately so neither Lana or anyone else would be harmed by having them. I think I made that clear.

Lana is a nasty evil witch; the writers are making that crystal clear. She used sex to delay Clark from doing the right thing. Period. Clark was the very worst character because he KNEW it was wrong to allow her to keep the powers yet he allowed it so he could take advantage of her condition. That makes Clark not a hero; he was a bastard to have no care for Lana's well being so he could screw her. Lana was right beside him because she manipulated him into allowing her to keep the powers so she could hurt the people she hated.

ANyone who can honestly say a girl who kills, kidnaps, tortures and embezzles is all sweetness and light can feel free to explain how breaking laws that all civilized societies would consider immoral and, in fact, criminal, don't apply to Lana Lang. Feel free to explain why it was okay for Clark, the supposed hero of this story, to ignore his clear knowledge that physical harm AND psychotic behavior is the result of a human gaining his abilities through the Kryptonite transfer so he can screw Lana.

Further, explain why CHloe, the girl who actually stood up to Lana after fully discovering Lana's underhandied and violent behavior, who called her on her crap, taking the hero's place while he was off making excuses for Lana instead of repenting for his own deplorable behavior, should have anything to to be sorry for.

And no, the hero's job is NOT to ONLY see the good in people and newsflash: there IS no good in Lana Lang. SHe has always been the same self-centered, manipulative little witch she is now but for some reason people, Clark the worst among them, refuse to see it. THe hero's place is to root out evil and make those who follow Evil's path pay for their crimes. It's completely outrageous to make Lana Lang exempt from paying for crimes the rest of us would go to prison for. That's just crap. THe hero is supposed to see through the sweet facade evil often presents to the ansty black heart that beats inside. If the hero can't do that then he's too stupid to be the hero. Over six years is way too long.

Clark should have seen through Lana back when she killed a woman and had Lex cover it up. That was his an irrideemable mistake and again, he never questions Lana because he wants to have sex with her. Now he's compounded that one with another, even more egregious blunder and more people have gotten hurt as a result. WHat if precious, Lana dies of a heart attack now just like his father? Of course, since Lana deliberately distracted Clark from what he knew was his rightful duty to take the powers back then she'd deserve that as her just punishment and Clark will have to live with that for the rest of his long life. What if Lana had permenantly injured or killed Nois or Lex or even CHloe? That would have been his fault, too, as it is his fault they got injured anyway. Heroes always go for the greater good and Clark failed miserably this time.

It's ridiculous to claim people are hating or bashing Lana when the writers are making her this nasty. It's all right there on the screen; we don';t have to interpret it, we just have to watch and see it plain as day. It's what the producers have been saying they were going to do with Lana for years now. They've said they were going to make her clearly EVIL and they have.

Lana is evil and Clark is a failure because he ignores it. He's never looked worse.

Another great post.

The only thing that I wondered was why Clark went to Lionel to rid Lana of her powers. Clark should know how to take them back. The only thing that makes sense is that he thought it was inhumane to electrocute her. But the alternative (letting her keep the powers while he tried to think of a way to get them back) was worse. And like you said, he only bothered to do that after taking advantage of the situation and had sex with her.

My next question is what's to stop Lana from electrocuting him with kryptonite while he's sleeping to take the powers back, this time fully so Clark remains powerless?

Humdinger
11-11-2007, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by samanta
It's Lois for me this episode.
Kissing her boss :mad:

I voted for Langzilla, but I agree with your post, too. Ugh, what a creepazoid.:eek:

dvg89
11-11-2007, 03:01 PM
Grant but he sucks in every episode

boingo
11-11-2007, 03:09 PM
Chloe....I felt she was out of line with her little "holier than thou speech" to Lana....a friend would want to help Lana or better yet find out why she has it out for the Luthors (I guess she really has lost her reporter edge/At least Lois seems to be on it) and not kick her when she is down....Ouch!

dh1031
11-12-2007, 11:32 AM
At least Lois seems to be on itAll Lois is on is an obsession with Lex, and her fling with Grant. Chloe did what was necessary to protect her friend, Lana has not been what one could call a friend for a long time. Especially since becoming Lana Luthor. :rolleyes:


Least favorite character in WrathI went with Clark for being stupid enough to do what he did after knowing what he does about Lana. :mad:

Welling_is_pretty
11-12-2007, 05:10 PM
I had to go with Grant. He's such a boring character and so unbelievable and so obvious and this episode he was even worse. He's not even remotely interesting as a character to me and I am tempted to mute him every time he comes on the screen.

So yeah, Grant.

margroks
11-13-2007, 08:05 AM
CHloe was not holier than thou; she called Lana on her crap at long last, as Clark should have done long before he ignored what he knew was true. He endangered Lana by screwing her since he knew she could die or go nuts by having his powers. What he did was virtually irredeemable; Clark was no hero in Wrath.

Lana was not friend, either and after a perosn does what Lana has doen, she's no friend and doesn't deserve to be treated like one. Even if the clone was never alive, (which I would question since it had to be living and growing to get to be an exact duplicate of adult Lana Lang right down to the DNA which was collected and was what fooled the coroner) it would be desecration of the dead, also a crime.

As for Lana killing someone-she killed Jason's mother and asked the Luthors to cover it up immediately before the first disgusting Clana sex, the first real trashing of Clark's character. So she has killed and avoided any questions or punishment because she feels she's too good to be treated as any other person would be in similar circumstances. It's all part of the Lana mindset: I'm better than other people and I deserve special treatment. She could have gone to trial and claimed selfdefense but she wanted to avoid any inconvenience.

As I said earlier, there is a limit to how much slack someone deserves. Lana has had more than her share and she deserves her comeuppance. Killing, kidnapping, torturing, ebbezzeling, threatening, being unfaithful over and over again, are all things society condemns. Lana has gone beyond the realm of mistake into the realm of criminally insane and she should be made to pay.

Clark is also to blame for enabling her awful behavior by giving her a pass but he is not responsible for it. Lana chose the path she is on long ago when she first decided to play the princess card everychance she got. This is the inevitable conclusion and Clark must step up, kick her out and work for her punishment if he is ever redeem his disgusting behavior. I'm still not sure he will ever be the kind of Superman he was intended to be as a result of this repugnant behavior. Chloe remains the only character who did the right thing in this ep and she should be lauded for it. Clark is the worst because he knew better and Lana is right beside him becasue she knows she can manipulate Clark into doing things for her benefit. Shame on Clark and Lana both.

And even though EDLois is incompetant and is behaving badly with the boss, her behavior pales in comparison to Clark and Lana.

Angelina2809
11-13-2007, 08:13 AM
Oh that is a hard question!
I enjoyed everyone there.
Well Lois because she kissed her boss.
Lana and Clark because of the super Clana sex - scene and the morning after as Chloe found out why Smallville had earthquakes.

But the most character I enjoyed was Lana - smashing Lex, through him away over the table, shamsh into Lex car window - that was really bad and brilliant!
Lana looked sexy in her black dress!

And she seduced Clark - so sexy!!!
Lucky Clark! Clark had so long no sex.....

meteor_phreak
11-13-2007, 11:28 AM
i completely intended to come here and post my opinion. thanks to three excellent posts by Margoks, i no longer need to. :lol:

10-5-4-9
11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Goobs
lana has murdered many times on this show. Though often in defense. Sort of like the other Luthors on this show.

Ouch!

xrayvision
11-13-2007, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by margroks
CHloe was not holier than thou; she called Lana on her crap at long last, as Clark should have done long before he ignored what he knew was true. He endangered Lana by screwing her since he knew she could die or go nuts by having his powers. What he did was virtually irredeemable; Clark was no hero in Wrath.

Lana was not friend, either and after a perosn does what Lana has doen, she's no friend and doesn't deserve to be treated like one. Even if the clone was never alive, (which I would question since it had to be living and growing to get to be an exact duplicate of adult Lana Lang right down to the DNA which was collected and was what fooled the coroner) it would be desecration of the dead, also a crime.

As for Lana killing someone-she killed Jason's mother and asked the Luthors to cover it up immediately before the first disgusting Clana sex, the first real trashing of Clark's character. So she has killed and avoided any questions or punishment because she feels she's too good to be treated as any other person would be in similar circumstances. It's all part of the Lana mindset: I'm better than other people and I deserve special treatment. She could have gone to trial and claimed selfdefense but she wanted to avoid any inconvenience.

As I said earlier, there is a limit to how much slack someone deserves. Lana has had more than her share and she deserves her comeuppance. Killing, kidnapping, torturing, ebbezzeling, threatening, being unfaithful over and over again, are all things society condemns. Lana has gone beyond the realm of mistake into the realm of criminally insane and she should be made to pay.

Clark is also to blame for enabling her awful behavior by giving her a pass but he is not responsible for it. Lana chose the path she is on long ago when she first decided to play the princess card everychance she got. This is the inevitable conclusion and Clark must step up, kick her out and work for her punishment if he is ever redeem his disgusting behavior. I'm still not sure he will ever be the kind of Superman he was intended to be as a result of this repugnant behavior. Chloe remains the only character who did the right thing in this ep and she should be lauded for it. Clark is the worst because he knew better and Lana is right beside him becasue she knows she can manipulate Clark into doing things for her benefit. Shame on Clark and Lana both.

And even though EDLois is incompetant and is behaving badly with the boss, her behavior pales in comparison to Clark and Lana.

Damn, you're 3/3 with good posts on this subject matter. Nice post again.

kryptonaidxh
11-14-2007, 02:59 PM
:D well, Lana is still the looser, :p she sucks!.
I donīt know what the hell is she doing still in SV if she leads this trheath.

lana 9
07-12-2008, 05:33 PM
lois

alejandrita439
07-12-2008, 05:44 PM
lana

kp1984
07-14-2008, 08:03 AM
I bet Clark wish he let Lana kill Lex now that he can controll him.

BigT
07-09-2009, 05:45 PM
Don't tell him to bite his tongue. He has just as much right to hate Chloe as anyone you hate.

Aw you cram it now! Got that! Cram it!

Ella
07-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Aw you cram it now! Got that! Cram it!
Uh, you do realize that you have responded to a 2 year old comment, right? And that the person you are talking to has been banned since then? :confused: