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galatians221
11-08-2007, 07:39 PM
No doubt in my mind that Lois is playing Grant to get the goods on Lex. When Grant killed her story she said something like "I get it" and then came on to him. He's probably playing her also, kissing her while he's erasing Lex's incriminating evidence but Lois will catch on and this could be a catalyst for bringing Lois and Clark closer together. Chloe also will probably team with Lois to uncover the goods. Gabriel will get fired and perhaps that will lead to Perry White getting the call.

aqgalaxy
11-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Yet she was all excited when she kissed him Twice... I doubt Lois knows anything.

thehenry89
11-08-2007, 07:40 PM
god i hope you're right...

double L
11-08-2007, 07:41 PM
That would be better, but I doubt it. It sucks having to watch Lois french this guy.

myankskent
11-08-2007, 07:42 PM
I don't know. I'd rather not comment on this storyline right now. The positive, for me, is that Grant is still not publishing Lois' articles so it's not like Lois is getting that handed to her because of her relationship with Grant.

Guidron
11-08-2007, 07:42 PM
I hope your right, and that she's working him to try and break the story about it.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-08-2007, 07:43 PM
It makes a lot of sense.

Kriminal
11-08-2007, 07:49 PM
lois is an airhead she hasn't got a clue.

paolinki25
11-08-2007, 07:49 PM
I hope she is, cause otherwise, she would come off looking like an idiot. God, I truly hate they kind of stuff they're doing to this great character.

thehenry89
11-08-2007, 07:50 PM
I hate what they're doing to all the charachters. the only person who didn't dissapoint me tonight was lionel.

Kriminal
11-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
I hate what they're doing to all the charachters. the only person who didn't dissapoint me tonight was lionel.

when does lionel disappoint? he is the MB after all.

myankskent
11-08-2007, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
I hate what they're doing to all the charachters. the only person who didn't dissapoint me tonight was lionel.

Except for that Martha conversation.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-08-2007, 07:58 PM
It's so obvious that Lois is playing Grant to get to Lex. It's just the kind of thing you'd expect from her character.

CLanaF23
11-08-2007, 08:08 PM
did lois not see the hardrive on his desk??? she is retarted...omg...soo obvious.... Grant is definitly working for lex..

galatians221
11-08-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by CLanaF23
did lois not see the hardrive on his desk??? she is retarted...omg...soo obvious.... Grant is definitly working for lex..

She may be retarted but I'll bet she already downloaded that information and wanted Grant to think he was getting away with something. This is the emerging Lois Lane. He called her his "star reporter". Not star retart.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
god i hope you're right...

Let's hope that that's all there is to it.

SteveS
11-08-2007, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Kriminal
lois is an airhead she hasn't got a clue.

This is excellent, there are a number of posters recognizing lois for what she is and you have it exactly right. What a great episode.

svtwamedfan05
11-08-2007, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by galatians221
No doubt in my mind that Lois is playing Grant to get the goods on Lex. When Grant killed her story she said something like "I get it" and then came on to him. He's probably playing her also, kissing her while he's erasing Lex's incriminating evidence but Lois will catch on and this could be a catalyst for bringing Lois and Clark closer together. Chloe also will probably team with Lois to uncover the goods. Gabriel will get fired and perhaps that will lead to Perry White getting the call.

I think you took the thoughts right out of may head Galatians. I truly, truly hope so

harryandginnyfanatic
11-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by galatians221
No doubt in my mind that Lois is playing Grant to get the goods on Lex. When Grant killed her story she said something like "I get it" and then came on to him. He's probably playing her also, kissing her while he's erasing Lex's incriminating evidence but Lois will catch on and this could be a catalyst for bringing Lois and Clark closer together. Chloe also will probably team with Lois to uncover the goods. Gabriel will get fired and perhaps that will lead to Perry White getting the call.

I can't imagine it playing out any other way.

Deana
11-08-2007, 09:36 PM
I would like to think that Lois is playing Grant, but when it comes to romance, the writers destroy characters to make a relationship work, by any means necessary.

I don't know if they will make Lois immune. I can only hope that they do.

Don't get your hopes up.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Deana
I would like to think that Lois is playing Grant, but when it comes to romance, the writers destroy characters to make a relationship work, by any means necessary.

I don't know if they will make Lois immune. I can only hope that they do.

Don't get your hopes up.

It's different with comic canon characters.

Non comic characters like Adam and Jason are fair game. We all know what happend to them.

Deana
11-08-2007, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
It's different with comic canon characters.

Non comic characters like Adam and Jason are fair game. We all know what happend to them. I was talking about what they have been doing with Clark and reference to his love for Lana. If the writers can destroy the "great one," Lois Lane isn't immune to their brand of romance.

It would be great for Lois to know the truth but I do not put anything pass the writers.

Lostfan588
11-08-2007, 09:42 PM
I dont know about this...

I would have hoped Lois was just going to play him, but the look on her face seemed pretty genuine to me that she likes the guy.

And macking on him while the hard drive was being deleting right in front of her?

And then why wouldn't Lois tell Chloe about their boss then possibly working with Lex? Why will Chloe be warning Lois against seeing Grant...:confused:

So I don't know. If Lois really is playing Grant it would have looked better for her had they shown a concrete sign Lois knows what he's up to. But she doesn't seem to have a clue sadly.

The affection between them seems purely genuine. Even if he is a Lex minion I think Grant has a thing for her.

galatians221
11-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
I dont know about this...

I would have hoped Lois was just going to play him, but the look on her face seemed pretty genuine to me that she likes the guy.

And macking on him while the hard drive was being deleting right in front of her?

And then why wouldn't Lois tell Chloe about their boss then possibly working with Lex? Why will Chloe be warning Lois against seeing Grant...:confused:

So I don't know. If Lois really is playing Grant it would have looked better for her had they shown a concrete sign Lois knows what he's up to. But she doesn't seem to have a clue sadly.

The affection between them seems purely genuine. Even if he is a Lex minion I think Grant has a thing for her.

She and Chloe compete for stories so that would explain why she wouldn't let Chloe in on what's going on.

Lostfan588
11-08-2007, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by galatians221
She and Chloe compete for stories so that would explain why she wouldn't let Chloe in on what's going on.

The problem with that idea that Lois want to make this a story for herself is that "Grant" himself can't be a story for either of Chlo-Lo bc he's pretty much off limits as he's the boss, so if Lois want to keep her job and thinks he's a minion she best not be seen going around macking on him. But I would think since Chlois are cousins, if Lois thought Grant might be dangerous that she would warn Chloe and be like- hey something's up. But instead it looks like Grois is going to become so much an issue that Lex and Chloe find out about it on their own- and Grants like may even get put at stake for it...

I think they genuinely like each other. I think Lois WILL catch on to Grants secret. Eventually. But not yet.

D.M.A.
11-08-2007, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
The problem with that idea that Lois want to make this a story for herself is that "Grant" himself can't be a story for either of Chlo-Lo bc he's pretty much off limits as he's the boss, so if Lois want to keep her job and thinks he's a minion she best not be seen going around macking on him. But I would think since Chlois are cousins, if Lois thought Grant might be dangerous that she would warn Chloe and be like- hey something's up. But instead it looks like Grois is going to become so much an issue that Lex and Chloe find out about it on their own- and Grants like may even get put at stake for it...

I think they genuinely like each other. I think Lois WILL catch on to Grants secret. Eventually. But not yet.
Agreed,i think lois will catch on later but right now she is genuinely fascinated by grant.Imo her bringin up their moment in the elevator proves it,she didnt have to mention it or kiss him back.But she did,so I think as of right now she liked him,but maybe later she'll find out the truth.

galatians221
11-08-2007, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Agreed,i think lois will catch on later but right now she is genuinely fascinated by grant.Imo her bringin up their moment in the elevator proves it,she didnt have to mention it or kiss him back.But she did,so I think as of right now she liked him,but maybe later she'll find out the truth.

I'm going to rewatch it tomorrow but I'm pretty sure there's an "AHA" moment for Lois before she wants to discuss their event on the elevator. She comes on to him for a reason and he's too vain to see that she's going to bring him down. That's my hope anyway, there isn't much of a story line if that isn't it. We know now that he is on Lex's payroll and now Lois is in his arms. She will find out for sure but I think she has already figured it out by his killing of the Luthor story.

Brizzle
11-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Dude she can' even spell good so I doubt she knows about grant but it could be a possibility.

galatians221
11-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Deana
I would like to think that Lois is playing Grant, but when it comes to romance, the writers destroy characters to make a relationship work, by any means necessary.

I don't know if they will make Lois immune. I can only hope that they do.

Don't get your hopes up.

Well, here's what we know. Lois is upset that Grant killed her story on Lex. She suddenly shifts her focus to wanting some sugar from her boss. She actually sets him up so he has to make the first move. She then reels him in. He's no good as he works for Lex and is erasing the hard drive but Lois is investigating Lex and we know she won't stop. In other words Logrant is doomed

FULLMETALMARTA
11-10-2007, 02:17 AM
What if he was working for the General????

keeping an eye on Lois and looking into Lex's projects?

Also, Lois is naive when it comes to men that are interested in her...
She even knows it...remember what she said to Martha in season five..."Trust me...you don't want to see my track record."

harryandginnyfanatic
11-10-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm sure there'll be a twist or revelation later to explain everything.

Mello Penelo
11-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Brizzle
Dude she can' even spell good so I doubt she knows about grant but it could be a possibility.

Which was a bad shout-out to Margot Kidder from the movies.

If Lois was written properly, she'd be like the all-time national spelling bee champion.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-10-2007, 11:46 PM
There have been other versions of Lois who have sometimes had an ulterior motive for kissing a guy.

In the new Superman Doomsday movie she makes out with Lex Luthor, right before knocking him out.

I just think there's more to Lois's kissing and flirtng with Grant. She wouldn't just reject him all those times and suddenly have a change of heart.

Radioflyer
11-11-2007, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Brizzle
Dude she can' even spell good so I doubt she knows about grant but it could be a possibility. She can't even spell very well. And I'm willing to bet that you're not dumb.


And neither is Lois. She's wise to him. Plus the deleted files are in the recycle bin.

galatians221
11-11-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Radioflyer
She can't even spell very well. And I'm willing to bet that you're not dumb.


And neither is Lois. She's wise to him. Plus the deleted files are in the recycle bin.

Agreed. I'll bet Lois saw him deleting the files on the server and went in there to distract him while Chloe was backing up the files elsewhere.

LoveHurts38
11-11-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by galatians221
Agreed. I'll bet Lois saw him deleting the files on the server and went in there to distract him while Chloe was backing up the files elsewhere.

I second that:D

xrayvision
11-11-2007, 03:25 PM
I wonder if Lois, like Chloe, will be fired after getting hired at the Daily Planet because a Luthor was behind it and Perry will be the one to bring him back, just like Pauline Cahn did with Chloe.

rej@ne
11-11-2007, 05:25 PM
Hey I hope youīre right! and I think thai if Lois doesnīt knpw anything now sheīs at least thinking something is not right

CountryGirl84
11-11-2007, 06:47 PM
I really hope its true that Lois is just doing some good undercover work... no pun intended :) I hated that they have her going after her boss. I liked it so much more in the elevator when she turned him down. I don't think sleeping with the boss is a very positive role model image. Superman is supposed to be the most moral of superheroes. How can they continue to keep pairing him up with women who have no morals...

Lostfan588
11-11-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I really hope its true that Lois is just doing some good undercover work... no pun intended :) I hated that they have her going after her boss. I liked it so much more in the elevator when she turned him down. I don't think sleeping with the boss is a very positive role model image. Superman is supposed to be the most moral of superheroes. How can they continue to keep pairing him up with women who have no morals...

I was just looking at the spoilers, and "Blue" is the ep when Chloe and Lex warn Grois to stay away from one another, so I also don't think there is alot of time to have Grois sleeping w each other or nething like that, unless Lois doesn't heed Chloe's advice.

I don't think Lois is on to Grant though bc, she didnt even seem to notice the files being deleted while they were macking away at each other. I also have a forlorning feeling Grant-while a minion- is going to betray Lex somehow bc of his feelings for Lois, resulting in his death. Or...then again...maybe he will stay evol, which is cooler imo.

But I do strongly wonder how this will affect Lois' career at the Planet when the new editor takes over, if the truth comes out about Grant and their little affair. And also, since Lois has been there, Grant hasn't been willing to print much of her stories bc of the grammar and sources like the last few eps, so...I don't know what her new boss will think...

CountryGirl84
11-11-2007, 07:39 PM
Well at least there is that Lostfan. Still though even being involved with the boss seems wrong.

Khyla
11-11-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
And also, since Lois has been there, Grant hasn't been willing to print much of her stories ...

has it been mentioned anywhere if the DP has printed anything of hers?

It would be kinda cool if we find out that she has been playin him in order to find out what his real agenda is. I mean it would only makes sense that she'd be a little suspicious of him calling her his star reporter if he hasn't printed anything of hers.

But the way the script went they're not giving us any indication of that. They're just showing her acting like her normal typical clueless self. They seem to be writing her character in much the same way they write Jimmy; smart about some things, naive about others. So it's really hard to know right now.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-11-2007, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I wonder if Lois, like Chloe, will be fired after getting hired at the Daily Planet because a Luthor was behind it and Perry will be the one to bring her back, just like Pauline Cahn did with Chloe.

Probably not.

Gough said that Lois would be joining the DP full time this season. So whatever happens with Grant, I doubt it'll cause Lois to lose her job.

FULLMETALMARTA
11-12-2007, 07:37 AM
I was thinking about Grant and realized...he call her lane...not Lois or Ms Lane...that right there is a military trait...every calls each other by there last name in the military, I am wondering if maybe he is doing a double spy thing for the government, and became interested in Lois because of her article on the space ship...he showed up at the same time the space ship appeared. He might be working for a branch of the Government...CIA...FBI...that is undercover and investigating the whole thing. The fact she saw it would make him want to know what she saw...Thus asking her to write the article. I have a feeling even if she had a picture, he wouldn't have printed it....the report was for whoever he is working for.

the way he acts makes me believe that even if he is communicating with Lex, he is really working for the government.

I think Lois finds out about something, ( He's meeting/working with Lex) and then breaks up with him. Then when he gets shot, she learns the truth about him, which will probably make her sad for his death.

This is the way I see this being played out

harryandginnyfanatic
11-12-2007, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by FULLMETALMARTA
I was thinking about Grant and realized...he call her lane...not Lois or Ms Lane...that right there is a military trait...every calls each other by there last name in the military, I am wondering if maybe he is doing a double spy thing for the government, and became interested in Lois because of her article on the space ship...he showed up at the same time the space ship appeared. He might be working for a branch of the Government...CIA...FBI...that is undercover and investigating the whole thing. The fact she saw it would make him want to know what she saw...Thus asking her to write the article. I have a feeling even if she had a picture, he wouldn't have printed it....the report was for whoever he is working for.

the way he acts makes me believe that even if he is communicating with Lex, he is really working for the government.

I think Lois finds out about something, ( He's meeting/working with Lex) and then breaks up with him. Then when he gets shot, she learns the truth about him, which will probably make her sad for his death.

This is the way I see this being played out

That would kinda make sense, considering Lex's new obsession with aliens.

Maybe Grant is only pretending to work for Lex and is really working for the government.

galatians221
11-12-2007, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
That would kinda make sense, considering Lex's new obsession with aliens.

Maybe Grant is only pretending to work for Lex and is really working for the government.

I doubt it but I predict that Lois will bring Grant down and expose Lex by the end of this season (if the writers stop the strike) and we will see Lex going to prison and then Michael Rosenbloom will be written off the show if it continues. Grant will bite the dust and clear the way for Perry White and that story will propel Lois to the top tier of reporters in the nation. Kind of like Woodward and Bernstein. Lois will be reckoned as the reporter who put the richest man in the world behind bars and exposed her own newspaper as a vessel of Luthor Industries.

kryptonaidxh
11-12-2007, 11:54 AM
:\ I donīt think she knows.
she wouldnīt dated Grant, Lois doesnīt date bad guys like Lana, I donīt hink she has a clue, I hope she gets to know soon:( , she deserves a good guy, she deserves her Superman.:D

galatians221
11-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by kryptonaidxh
:\ I donīt think she knows.
she wouldnīt dated Grant, Lois doesnīt date bad guys like Lana, I donīt hink she has a clue, I hope she gets to know soon:( , she deserves a good guy, she deserves her Superman.:D

Think about it; she has her story rejected by Grant and she wants to make out with him? I don't think so. She's on to him and will charm him to get to Lex and expose them both.

Radioflyer
11-12-2007, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by galatians221
Agreed. I'll bet Lois saw him deleting the files on the server and went in there to distract him while Chloe was backing up the files elsewhere. That's entirely plausible. We'll just have to wait and see.


Originally posted by CountryGirl84
Well at least there is that Lostfan. Still though even being involved with the boss seems wrong. If it turned out to be just a sting to expose a corrupt editor then it shouldn't hurt her, (Lois) unless the new editor ( Perry White or whoever) a real jerk. Remember Grant started this. He began by deminishing Chloe's work ( journalism scholar ) and putting amateurish reporter Lois on a pedestal, now he's critiquing Lois's work. The guy is a fraud for sure.

SuperVille =) CK
11-12-2007, 03:10 PM
i don't think he is working for lex, maybe it's more complicated than it looks.

galatians221
11-12-2007, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by SuperVille =) CK
i don't think he is working for lex, maybe it's more complicated than it looks.

He told her to stop investigating Luthor Industries. That's a pretty good tip as to where his bread is buttered. Lana gave him a smoking gun and he didn't even want to see it much less print it and then he erased all of the information. It's pretty clear to me that he's evil and working for Lex. Lois knows and she and Chloe are going to bring him down.

FULLMETALMARTA
11-12-2007, 05:59 PM
why would lex ask him to erase it? lex locked it up in a safe...he would more likely ask him to bring it back. band as a matter of fact, because it was stolen from lex...he could give it back to lex and not raise any eyebrows...so i tend to think there is a double plot going on here.

galatians221
11-12-2007, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by FULLMETALMARTA
why would lex ask him to erase it? lex locked it up in a safe...he would more likely ask him to bring it back. band as a matter of fact, because it was stolen from lex...he could give it back to lex and not raise any eyebrows...so i tend to think there is a double plot going on here.

The scene opened with Grant on the phone saying "yes sir" and then he hit the delete button and hung up the phone. It's possible that it wasn't Lex. It could be Lionel or it could be someone else but my money is on Lex.

marka58091
11-12-2007, 07:11 PM
You are way off Lois doesn't have a clue and it will not matter cuz Grant will be dead in a couple of episodes

galatians221
11-12-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by marka58091
You are way off Lois doesn't have a clue and it will not matter cuz Grant will be dead in a couple of episodes

So, Grant tells Lois to stop investigating the Luthors and kills her article and Lois just decides to plant a big one on him out of gratitude? Maybe rejection turns her on.

jazel
11-12-2007, 08:50 PM
actually, he's not going to be around that much longer. think he may have 3 or 4 epi's left. pretty safe bet, Lo will "expose" him.lol

Theshadow129x
11-12-2007, 10:34 PM
^ good get rid of him i hated his character from the moment i first laid eyes ion him before a word came out of his mouth.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-12-2007, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by jazel
actually, he's not going to be around that much longer.

I sure as hell won't miss him.

FULLMETALMARTA
11-13-2007, 07:06 AM
Me either!
He's a distraction from Clois! TPTB need to get off there Ashes and write some Clois!

I am so tired of waiting!:mad:

Odysseus
11-13-2007, 03:50 PM
Oh God, I REALLY hope Lois is playing Grant to find out what he knows. Because I can't honestly believe that she would be attracted to him. He's such a jerk, and extremely unprofessional.

Not to mention, dating the boss is a very Un-Lois-like thing to do. It goes against her character. So yeah, she better be playing Grant for info. For the sake of her character.

If it turns out that she really is interested in dating Grant, I will seriously throw something at the screen.

galatians221
11-13-2007, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Odysseus
Oh God, I REALLY hope Lois is playing Grant to find out what he knows. Because I can't honestly believe that she would be attracted to him. He's such a jerk, and extremely unprofessional.

Not to mention, dating the boss is a very Un-Lois-like thing to do. It goes against her character. So yeah, she better be playing Grant for info. For the sake of her character.

If it turns out that she really is interested in dating Grant, I will seriously throw something at the screen.

I think Lois is totally in love with journalism and is obsessed with exposing the Luthors as opposed to Lana who wants to kill Lex.

kentfamily
11-21-2007, 01:01 AM
In the Lois and Grant kissing scene, Grant is talking on the phone before Lois right before walks in.
He says something like

"Dont worry, Sir, its been taken care of, I give you my word".

I get the feeling Grant is neither talking to Lionel nor Lex. It has to be someone else. Why would Grant call Lex, "sir" when they are supposed to be brothers?

I think its someone else that grant was talking to.
Anybody?