Does Clark love Lana?

[redeem147]

Or does Clark love an image of Lana he built up in his own mind when he was a kid watching her from his barn window?

[paolinki25]

If you call obsession love, then yeah.

[JeLLy123]

no I think he loves her this isnt the first time shes made a mistake they love each other and i think were going to see that in the next few episodes

[Runestone]

He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.

[katt12]

Yeah, I think he's just in love with the perfect girl he's made Lana out to be in his mind, who is obviously not Lana.

[HalJordan4184]

Like others have said, Clark loves the idea of Lana he has built up in his head. Even Lana has recognized this, and both Lana and Chloe called him on it in this episode. Een confronted with the evidence of what Lana was doing, Clark was trying to exonerate her i his mind, and find some way he could shift the blame to anything else. Unfortunately, he does this with everything concerned with Lana, and after finally getting a real look at her tonight, he has his doubts. Will he try to continue something, of course. I wouldn't expect Clark to just drop her. However, will it be more cautious, and eventually lead him to discover his feelings aren't what he though? I would hope so.

[Coyote]

He thinks he loves her, but has Lionel, Lex, and Lana herself tried to tell him, he's delusional when it comes to who and what Lana really is.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Runestone
He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.

I agree. He loves the "perfect, sweet, never capable of hurting people" Lana.

[luvinChlark]

If he truly loved her, he would have said yes in the last scene. So no, Clark doesn't love her like he USED to...He just won't except until she does something terrible...or hopefully in the next couple of episodes. :)

[aqgalaxy]

He's waking up... seeing past the obsession... The girl of his dreams never existed and now he has to think... did he love Lana for Lana, or the fantasy image of Lana...

He's waking up IMO

[CLanaF23]

No i think he truly does love lana..hes just shocked at her choices and he has never seen this side of her..well she aint perfect and if he really loves her he gotta forgive her...

[Coyote]

Yes Clark loves Lana. But she has good enough taste to not love him. She still wants her Lex.

[Guidron]

I think he loves his idea of Lana. However, I think he's finally starting to see that his idea of her and who she really is doesn't line up.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Runestone
He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.

I agree, and you know, that was a really great line. It reminded me of early on when Lana told Clark that she was afraid that Clark would see who she really was...and that he would see that she wasn't as strong, or as good as he thought she was.

This episode had great continuity.

[HalJordan4184]

Originally posted by CLanaF23
No i think he truly does love lana..hes just shocked at her choices and he has never seen this side of her..well she aint perfect and if he really loves her he gotta forgive her...

If Clark is just seeing these new sides of her, and by extension then, doesn't really know her, how can he be truly in love with her?

[theotherJane]

In some way, Lana is to Clark what Daisy Buchanan is to Jay Gatsby from the Great Gatsby....a generalized ideal or an American dream if you will, and this episode is where Clark finally sees the disintegration of that dream.

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
He's waking up... seeing past the obsession... The girl of his dreams never existed and now he has to think... did he love Lana for Lana, or the fantasy image of Lana...

He's waking up IMO

I'd agree to your comment, Clark hesitated at the end, so he's thinking alot now...reality check Clark! C'mon!

[Khyla]

Originally posted by Runestone
He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.
It's not the first time she's told him either :\
But i hope you're right



Originally posted by Coyote
He thinks he loves her, but has Lionel, Lex, and Lana herself tried to tell him, he's delusional when it comes to who and what Lana really is.
Agree. :(



Originally posted by aqgalaxy
He's waking up... seeing past the obsession... The girl of his dreams never existed and now he has to think... did he love Lana for Lana, or the fantasy image of Lana...

He's waking up IMO

yeah... he did that once before in"LABYRINTH" but then he fell back asleep again :\

At least he didn't respond this time when she said she needed him to love her no matter what.
:)

[spidey001]

Originally posted by Runestone
He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.

HIT THE HEAD ON THE NAIL... that is all lol

[Scribe]

He fell in love with her without before he even got to know her.

[HalJordan4184]

Which means he never really fell in love WITH HER, just the idea he made up of her.

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

He did ..with the sweet , innocent lana...but now..he's trying to hold on to an old feeling that is withering away ..especially when getting to know the new and different Lana .......its about to be be sooo over

[HalJordan4184]

Except, as Lana herself has said, that was never her. That was CLark's idea of her. Even as early as season one, Lana was doing things that even Clark said he thought were out of character for her, and Lana was telling him that's because he doesn't know her. All of this time, Clark has excused any behavior that was contrary to his image of Lana, whether it was actually in character or not for her to be that way. He fell in love with his own idea of what Lana should be, and not what Lana is.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Like others have said, Clark loves the idea of Lana he has built up in his head. Even Lana has recognized this, and both Lana and Chloe called him on it in this episode. Een confronted with the evidence of what Lana was doing, Clark was trying to exonerate her i his mind, and find some way he could shift the blame to anything else. Unfortunately, he does this with everything concerned with Lana, and after finally getting a real look at her tonight, he has his doubts. Will he try to continue something, of course. I wouldn't expect Clark to just drop her. However, will it be more cautious, and eventually lead him to discover his feelings aren't what he though? I would hope so.
Agreed,after tonight I think he'll have doubts because he's startin to see she's not who he thought.I jus hope he doesnt take the blame like he tried tonight in the loft :rolleyes:

[dvg89]

He loves parts of her lol just like we all do

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Khyla
At least he didn't respond this time when she said she needed him to love her no matter what.
:)
yea that scene sort of reminded me of the end of cyborg,how he tells her he'll always luv her no matter what.And we jus knew they were comin to an end soon,except this time he didnt say a word.I think its the beginnin of clana's downfall,where it'll end who knows.But he's definitely startin to view her diff after tonight,which is a good sign

[AndiGirl]

He loves the old Lana that doesn't exist anymore.

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

woulnd't it be a real TWIST if he Actually realized that Lana was not his real love..but chloe instead..I mean that would be some WTF? stuff ...and of course they would have to end up getting rid of chloe at that point because he can't have a happy , normal , romantic realtionship.

[AndiGirl]

Well...Chloe is definitely better for him then Lana! haha. At this point at least. But..I really think Clark needs to lay off of women for a bit and focus on his destiny. But...if he had to be with someone, Chloe's a good choice!! ;)

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
Well...Chloe is definitely better for him then Lana! haha. At this point at least. But..I really think Clark needs to lay off of women for a bit and focus on his destiny. But...if he had to be with someone, Chloe's a good choice!! ;)
Agreed,but so does lana...She needs to be single more so than clark,he was single all last season.Plus Jor-el has clark doin his trainin now,so all clark has to do is get more proactive again.But I agree,if he had to be wit sumone now I'd say chloe 2 :p :)

[Mello Penelo]

He doesn't love her. He's abnormally obsessed. He's the male version of Alicia.

[AndiGirl]

I wish he didn't have to train right away. Couldn't he dump Lana...and we can have Chlark for a bit? Then he can train?! haha. ;) Yea, Lana needs to be alone badly....I'm not sure she even knows how to be alone...she may not even be stable enough to be alone. who knows! But Chloe will get Clark going in the right direction. :)

[cma5ft11]

Originally posted by Runestone
He loves the perfect idea that he has of Lana, she said so herself. I think in the next few episodes we'll see him come to his senses and see who she really is.

Man I hope so, poor guy. All she's doing is dragging him down.

[LexLuv180]

I think he really does - and always will - love her, but is getting the sense they aren't right for eachother still.

[paolinki25]

I think Clark is incapable of truly hating someone (at least, I'd like to believe he isn't), but I also think he is just blinded by the perfect image and love he has for Lana. Once those blinders come off, I think he will see that Lana is not THE one, and although I don't expect Clark to just hate her, he will see she's not the girl he envisioned her to be.

[BadToad]

I think Clark thinks he loves her. I believe he'll come to better understand what love really is later in this life. She's his first love, and its an unrealistic, immature love. Later on, he'll find the right love. At least thats what I tell myself :p

Personally, the question I find myself wondering more about is "Does Lana love Clark?"

In this episode, aside from wanting to hump him, I didn't even get the impression she LIKED him, much less loved him.

[paolinki25]

I agree. I've always questioned how much does Lana really love Clark?

[darkkrypton81]

For six years straight the answer would be yes.

But now..., only time will tell.

[chantal]

Originally posted by theotherJane
In some way, Lana is to Clark what Daisy Buchanan is to Jay Gatsby from the Great Gatsby....a generalized ideal or an American dream if you will, and this episode is where Clark finally sees the disintegration of that dream.

Or what Ashley was to Scarlett O'Hara:

"He never really existed at all, except in my imagination. I loved something I made up... I made a pretty suit of clothes and fell in love with it. And when Ashley came riding along, so handsome, so different, I put that suit on him and made him wear it whether it fitted him or not. And I wouldn't see what he really was. I kept on loving the pretty clothes--and not him at all."

Only, in Clark's case, it's the pretty face.

In a way, it also describes how Lana fell in love with Lex, until she got to know the real Lex. Isn't it odd that no one blames Lana when she failed to go on loving Lex no matter what, but they would blame Clark? And Lana did claim to love Lex.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by chantal
In a way, it also describes how Lana fell in love with Lex, until she got to know the real Lex. Isn't it odd that no one blames Lana when she failed to go on loving Lex no matter what, but they would blame Clark? And Lana did claim to love Lex.

See, but that's the thing. Lana claimed to love Whitney. Lana claimed to love Jason. Lana claimed to love Lex. Lana claimed to love Clark. It just makes you wonder if she's confusing "love" with "I need a guy by my side, because I'm just afraid of being alone" feeling.

[KryptoKnight]

You know, the illusion always seems to fade once you have participated in rockin' barn romps. Loves Lana?...no.

[Dyanara]

Originally posted by paolinki25
See, but that's the thing. Lana claimed to love Whitney. Lana claimed to love Jason. Lana claimed to love Lex. Lana claimed to love Clark. It just makes you wonder if she's confusing "love" with "I need a guy by my side, because I'm just afraid of being alone" feeling.

I say lana meets some hott, intelligent, feisty chick and then realizes she doesnt need a guy by her side.;)

[supergirl28]

Clark does love Lana, but now that she has all these issues he is trying to understand why. Clark treats Lana like a godess, and Lana knows that, but she is taking advantage of that. If she keeps doing that she will lose Clark forever.

[Billy Jor-El]

As many have said, he has only been in love with his own vision of Lana, not the real person. He wants to think Lex is totally evil when he tries to point out Lana's darker side, but Lionel made an impression on him. Still it was probably Lex's comment of seeing it in Clark's eyes that help him to face himself and know that Lana ain't who he pictures her as. His obsession rivals that of Lex. In love with Lana? Yes, in his own twisted way (what did Bizarro say about knowing Clark's twisted thoughts?), but I don't think he sees her in the same way after "Wrath." It won't be long before even Clark can admit he USED to love her and be done with it all.....

[Bigx07]

No the same way he used too. I think he is having second thoughts about her.

[Superbeard]

He loves the picture perfect image he painted of her in his head seven years ago that hasn't gone away. Pete called 'em "Lana blinders" way back in Season One, and not a thing has changed from Clark's perspective.

Clark, you gotta start manning up, boy. The biggest reason I like it when Kara is around is because Clark actually starts to act like Superman keeping her in line. Lana just keeps making him melt into a sissy all over again.

Glad he was finally enlightened by... Lana, of all people.

[vikingjedi]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Like others have said, Clark loves the idea of Lana he has built up in his head. Even Lana has recognized this, and both Lana and Chloe called him on it in this episode. Een confronted with the evidence of what Lana was doing, Clark was trying to exonerate her i his mind, and find some way he could shift the blame to anything else. Unfortunately, he does this with everything concerned with Lana, and after finally getting a real look at her tonight, he has his doubts. Will he try to continue something, of course. I wouldn't expect Clark to just drop her. However, will it be more cautious, and eventually lead him to discover his feelings aren't what he though? I would hope so.

Well said. Clark has to make this choice on his own...and he will

[petewillreturn]

I think he lovers her and always will. They just are not good as a couple.

[xaosthry]

Clark loved her for what he thought she was. Now that he is beginning to see her he will start seeing the truth.
Plus, maybe its just me, but Lex's words about obsession overpowering love might have alot to do with it. He may start to see his obsession with Lana was blinding him from real love.

[Bigx07]

he should have saw who she was a long time ago.

[Dustmite]

I think Clark's realising that the woman he thought he loved never existed except in his mind.

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by Dustmite
I think Clark's realising that the woman he thought he loved never existed except in his mind.

:) I agree, he just idealized her, but after this episode i hope he realizes that his inocent and harmless princess is not the perfect girl he thought she was.:)

[All about Clark]

I think Clark really loved Lana before Lex got a hold on her.

He said to Chloe that she is darker, so no, I don't think he loves her since returning, but I think he hopes she will return to being the girl he loved.

[HalJordan4184]

She never was the "girl he loved", and even Lana keeps telling him that. He never got to know Lana before deciding he was in love with her. He is in love with the ideal Lana he created in his head, and anything that happened in the real world, that was contrary to his image of Lana, was excused, or blamed on someone else, lest Lana not be perfect to him anymore.

[Clarkgirl8]

No, but he thinks he loves her... well it's more like a bad habit...

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by Dustmite
I think Clark's realising that the woman he thought he loved never existed except in his mind.

We always say the same things... god bella you must be my English sister or something hehe

I agree 100%

Problem is... he never was around Lana... they never got to know one another so he had these fantasies of what she would be like to hang out with and such... her favorite shampoo... all he knows is what she looks like.. on top of that.. there relationships never last long in terms of getting to know one another... there's no foundation thus why they are always doom to failure...


He never loved her... it's just some fantasy he doesn't want to Let go of.. and it's pitiful. This episode was like a child finding out Santa Clause isn't real.

[LoisJoanneKent]

He is in love with the idea of her. Now that he sees how foul and disgusting she is, "He'll get over it"!

[svtwamedfan05]

He only loves the image and the idea of pink princess Lana.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Except, as Lana herself has said, that was never her. That was CLark's idea of her. Even as early as season one, Lana was doing things that even Clark said he thought were out of character for her, and Lana was telling him that's because he doesn't know her. All of this time, Clark has excused any behavior that was contrary to his image of Lana, whether it was actually in character or not for her to be that way. He fell in love with his own idea of what Lana should be, and not what Lana is.

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
... and anything that happened in the real world, that was contrary to his image of Lana, was excused, or blamed on someone else, lest Lana not be perfect to him anymore.

Thank you!

You've explained it perfectly!

Hopefully ppl will stop saying that this Lana is so out of character, that this is a "different Lana", that she must be a clone or something. .... I'm getting really sick and tired of ppl looking at her thru Clark's eyes, instead of the way she's been presented by the writers all along!


Originally posted by aqgalaxy
...
He never loved her... it's just some fantasy he doesn't want to Let go of.. and it's pitiful. This episode was like a child finding out Santa Clause isn't real.

:lol: good way to put it! Only it's more like he was told Santa wasn't real, but refuses to believe it, thinks it must be that he was a bad boy, that he did something wrong, and that's why Santa is gone. :\

[operadiva]

i still don't think Clark gets it..Oh boy...mama mia..Maybe Lara can give him a kick in the ass..

[smallvillefreak24]

Do you think this goes back to the conversation they had at the end of accelerate...

[Khyla]

yes, i and several other posters have brought that up before.

When Lana tells Clark in ACCELERATE, that she's afraid that one day he'll see she isn't the perfect picture he has in his mind of her, and that it will change the way he feels about her, he replies, "Nothing could ever do that."

It looks like he just might wake up from his self-induced Lana dream though :)

[*#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*]

oh man there isnt a doubt in my mind that they are always going to love each other. clark needs to wipe off the facade of the never hurting anyone lana, and he will in the next few episodes. but Clana is going to have romance in the entire season 7, Al/Miles said there doing an entire season of clana which they have never done before.

and whomever said that the people named Lex and Lionel trying to get clark to see who lana really is, is just a push towards reality. they are trying to see if Calrk actually LOVES and is IN LOVE with Lana. and of course loving someone for roughly 7-8 years isnt going to change their feelings because lana made a mistake.

so this is just a throwback

[LoisJoanneKent]

Originally posted by *#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*
oh man there isnt a doubt in my mind that they are always going to love each other. clark needs to wipe off the facade of the never hurting anyone lana, and he will in the next few episodes. but Clana is going to have romance in the entire season 7, Al/Miles said there doing an entire season of clana which they have never done before.

and whomever said that the people named Lex and Lionel trying to get clark to see who lana really is, is just a push towards reality. they are trying to see if Calrk actually LOVES and is IN LOVE with Lana. and of course loving someone for roughly 7-8 years isnt going to change their feelings because lana made a mistake.

so this is just a throwback

Umm, you do know that eventually Clark HAS to leave Lana, and that he marries Lois in the future right? So, eventually Clana will end, and AlMiles did hint that Clark would begin to fall for Lois by the end of the season...

[free_emily]

Originally posted by LoisJoanneKent
Umm, you do know that eventually Clark HAS to leave Lana, and that he marries Lois in the future right? So, eventually Clana will end, and AlMiles did hint that Clark would begin to fall for Lois by the end of the season...
How does any of that preclude Clark from continuing to love Lana? Love isn't static. It changes with time. It also doesn't have to be linear. It could travel on in one dimension for a time and then change planes, among other things. It's not impossible for Clark to marry Lois while still loving Lana. And it wouldn't diminish Clark or Lois or Lana or Clark's love for Lois or Clark's love for Lana. The heart can be complicated. People have the capacity for more than one loving relationship. It happens and it's ok.

[Sweetie]

Just the last scene of tonight episode said it the best.Clark is beginning to see Lana for who she really is...and what she's capable of.The perfect image that he had of her just broke.Now will he really love the girl bellow the surface?I think he won't accept it that easilly...He even mentionned that she sounds just like Lex.He compared her as his future ennemi...Ouch!!!That doesn't sound very good to me.He will need time to ajust to that new reality.At the end,they will agree to stay friends but,they will never be lovers again.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by Sweetie
Just the last scene of tonight episode said it the best.Clark is beginning to see Lana for who she really is...and what she's capable of.The perfect image that he had of her just broke.Now will he really love the girl bellow the surface?I think he won't accept it that easilly...He even mentionned that she sounds just like Lex.He compared her as his future ennemi...Ouch!!!That doesn't sound very good to me.He will need time to ajust to that new reality.At the end,they will agree to stay friends but,they will never be lovers again.
I agree!

When Clark told Lana she sounds like Lex, and she responded. "I sound like you ... You can't tell me you haven't crossed the moral line in order to save some one."

the look he responds with as he raises his eyebrows is NOT one of guilt or remorse or even acceptance, or acknowledgment. It's more of a wary look, as he replies "These last few weeks have been so great with you i just.... i didn't want to look below the surface. .... It's never been a part of our relationship."

When she said she just needs to know that he loves her... no matter what. He just looks at her, and it's rather ambiguous, and almost like a parent disappointed in a disobedient child though the song playing says "you eyes don't lie"

of course you can't blame clark for being a little confused, and hesitant to reply to that. You'd be confused too if you had recently experienced earth-shaking, mind-blowing (er.....rather.... barn roof blowing) super-sex. :lol: