Chloe vs. Lana: The Chlana Confrontation [Archive] - KSiteTV Television & Movie Forums

D.M.A.

11-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
Chloe didn't win that fight. Lana probably would've killed Chloe had Adam not come in and blocked her attempt at killing Chloe with that axe.
actually we dont kno that,chloe avoided it thruout the fight and I doubt she wouldnt have continued.The fight ended tho because chloe kicked her and made her bump her head.But that fight was clearly even except for certain parts,but I still say chloe would win :p

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Chloe didn't take round 1, Adam knocked Lana out with the underkick to trip her.
actually that was chloe would kicked her,adam jus distracted lana enough to give chloe the chance.

SecretzNLyz15

11-07-2007, 10:12 PM

Therefore it was cheating. Two on one. Doesn't mean that Chloe took the round.

God, we sound like we're fighting about a boxing match..lol.

D.M.A.

11-07-2007, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Therefore it was cheating. Two on one. Doesn't mean that Chloe took the round.

God, we sound like we're fighting about a boxing match..lol.
:lol: yea we do,but still it would be nice to see a rematch of the 2 :p

isagill chlark fan

11-07-2007, 10:26 PM

chloe is the best

myankskent

11-07-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
actually we dont kno that,chloe avoided it thruout the fight and I doubt she wouldnt have continued.

I thought that Chloe was cooked in that scene, which is why Adam had to be there to stop Lana. Either way, I don't think that we'll be seeing a rematch.

D.M.A.

11-07-2007, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
I thought that Chloe was cooked in that scene, which is why Adam had to be there to stop Lana. Either way, I don't think that we'll be seeing a rematch.
I honestly thought it was evenly match,and adam jus had to step in cause lana brainwash wouldnt stop til she completed the task.As for not seein a rematch,I agree I doubt we see one.But d@mn it sure would be good if we did :p

aqgalaxy

11-07-2007, 11:46 PM

The Chlana confrontation:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7OY66YZm9k

tariksam

11-08-2007, 12:06 AM

what a boring scene...I almost feel sleep.....

I voted Shelby..

Big showdown!!!!! :rolleyes:

Chloe has character mehh!!!!!:rolleyes:

She scared me!!!! :rolleyes:

She has the same freaking (pun not intended) reaction always.....:rolleyes:

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 02:39 AM

Chloe could so take Lana physically and intellectually. Remember in Progency Moira told her to get out of the holding facility and Chloe took the guard and his gun and looked totally badass. Def Chloe

AndrewVDk

11-08-2007, 05:12 AM

Chloe would win!!!

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
The Chlana confrontation:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7OY66YZm9k

Chloe looks so hot!!! :D

Dustmite

11-08-2007, 05:53 AM

Chloe: "I didn't realise Big Sister was watching."
Lana: "I guess Lex cut me off."
Chloe: "It wasn't Lex."
Lana (taken back): "After everything he's done, I have a right to protect myself."
Chloe: "It would have been nice to know about the operation you're running."
Lana: "I'm sorry that I lied. I didn't think that you would understand if you saw the whole picture."
Chloe: "Well, it's in crystal clear HD now... ISIS seemed to make a lot of sense when I thought you were just set to help people. In textbook talk, Isis is the Godess of Love and Life and Healing. She even marched to the ends of the Earth to help jumpstart the man she loved. I want Clark to have that kind of loyalty in his life. But I'm just not sure it's from you...
Lana: "I would do anything for Clark."
Chloe: "Even kill. What a lucky guy."
Chloe: "What the textbook left out is that Isis is also the Godess of the Underworld. She's responsible for bringing the great God Ra to his knees."
Lana: "You believe that I would do that to Clark."
Chloe: "Not intentionally... But I realise now that you're capable of it."
Lana seems to look defiantly at Chloe?
Chloe: "You should just know that I'm not going to let that happen."

Both AM and KK were brilliant in this scene and I loved that whilst Chloe still cares for Lana, she made it clear that her loyalties lie firmly with Clark.

ShelbyKent

11-08-2007, 06:09 AM

Lana.... she's been displaying killer instincts lately

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 06:35 AM

I loved this scene.

Hopefulsuicide

11-08-2007, 06:56 AM

Chloe would win in the end... Lana has always pretended to be better than she is.

Real question is, who would Clark try and save and who would he stop... and who would he side with?

Of course if he took Lana's side Chloe wouldn't wanna fight for him anymore

bobowayney

11-08-2007, 07:06 AM

Chloe vs Lana. hmmmm but Chloe will only go after Lana IF Lana were trying to hurt Clark - AND if that were the case, Lana would have a bigger worry : KARA !, Chloe and Kara would take Lana down, trust me

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 07:38 AM

The whole scene showed a lot to me. First of all that the so called friendship between the two is one-sided at best. If it even deserves to be called friendship. Seems to me they are only friends when the scene calls for it. But not beyond that.

Chloe had no business taking down the feed. Lana was not hurting anyone with watching Lex. Maybe herself but that wasn't a danger to Clark. Only to herself. And it wasn't Chloe's decision to make. If Chloe is a friend to Lana she would have made serveral different decisions last Season. Yet with Clark she has to go drastic measures right off the bat.

Also I think she made a big mistake by cutting Lana off. Mainly because that survailance might have come in handy in the future. The Chloe I have known over the years wouldn't have done that. Keeping an eye on Lex is exactly what everyone needs right now. If it wasn't for that Clark would have never known in last week's episode that Kara was abducted from the mansion. Hell in this episode we learned that Lex is out to 'protect' the world from the aliens. And last I checked that puts Clark and Kara in danger. Isn't that what Chloe is trying to do too? Protecting Clark? So why cut off the source? Frankly that was pretty stupid. And Chloe isn't stupid. She should have gone about this differently. Without going that drastic. I don't mind them having a discussion about the situation. But I'm pretty sure that wasn't a very smart move on Chloe's part.

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 07:57 AM

Lana would win. Hands down.

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 09:05 AM

If you don't think what Lana was doing was wrong then why was Clark shocked and the first thing he did was ask Chloe;

" tell me you didn't know anything about this" as if it's Chloe's life mission to guard Lana like he does.

You talk about friendship? why is it that Lana didn't tell Clark or Chloe about what she is doing? Could it be because it's wrong and against the law and not even Clark would approve?

And you think Chloe cut her off? Did you miss the part that maybe Clark asked Chloe to do it because the big farm boy wouldn't know how?

Stop making excuses for Lana we still have no idea what she is really up to.

Kreukie

11-08-2007, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Stop making excuses for Lana we still have no idea what she is really up to.

Likewise with stop faulting her for everything, because we really don't know what she's up to.

Chloe didn't even get the Isis/Ra reference right, at the end Isis ends up saving Ra from himself. :p

amberdawn

11-08-2007, 09:09 AM

Go Chloe!

I can't wait to see it.

Alexander III

11-08-2007, 09:10 AM

I sense catfight in that scene. I really wish them settle this once and for all in a mud wrestle match. :lol:

Tottally ~ Free

11-08-2007, 09:16 AM

CHLOE.

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
If you don't think what Lana was doing was wrong then why was Clark shocked and the first thing he did was ask Chloe;

" tell me you didn't know anything about this" as if it's Chloe's life mission to guard Lana like he does.

You talk about friendship? why is it that Lana didn't tell Clark or Chloe about what she is doing? Could it be because it's wrong and against the law and not even Clark would approve?

Stop making excuses for Lana we still have no idea what she is really up to.

Chloe has first hand experience what happens when you go off the deep end for the wrong reasons. Or do I really need to remind you of her past mistakes? So just for that she should come down from her moral high. She should rather talk about her own experiences with it about Lana before taking action herself. It wasn't her place.

Second Lana keeping tabs on Lex through his survailance is illegal. But part of that is to protect Clark and therefor Kara. And herself. Or did Lex not send out enough signals already that aliens are his next target. Hell he just admitted in this episode he wants to 'protect' the world from aliens. So that makes Clark and Kara a target. And keeping an eye on Lex might not be a bad idea.

Chloe breaks the law every time she hacks into a database/computer/server. But she is doing it to help and protect people. Clark does the same when he breaks into houses/companies/facilities. Same reasons. It's still against the law. Neither of them are different from Lana in that aspect.

The only reason Clark is not doing anything against Lex is because he still likes to believe there is good in every person. And Chloe is not doing anything against the Luthors because she is scared. Sorry but that's just what I see. Lex has her since that thread in Progeny. She knows what it will cost her should Lex find out she is doing anything to expose him.

If Lana wants to go more dratic measures there is nothing wrong with that. Of course torturing Lionel was bad. I'm excusing that. Why should I? Everyone saw it.

And most importantly. It's not Chloe's decision to make who is worthy of being a part of Clark's life and who isn't. Excuse me? Last I checked that is Clark's decision alone.

I would love for people to stop applying double-standarts. Keeping watch over someone is no different from hacking or breaking in.

All 3 ladies in Smallville have reason to go after Lex and bring him down. Yet the only ones I see who are interested in doing that are Lana and Lois.

And you think Chloe cut her off? Did you miss the part that maybe Clark asked Chloe to do it because the big farm boy wouldn't know how?
Frankly I haven't seen the whole episode. And if Clark asked her to do that it makes it just as bad. So it means both decided what was best without consulting Lana. Still doesn't chnage the facts.

tariksam

11-08-2007, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw
And most importantly. It's not Chloe's decision to make who is worthy of being a part of Clark's life and who isn't. Excuse me? Last I checked that is Clark's decision alone.

Give her a break she doesn't have a boyfriend nor work to do apprently so she has to stick her nose in others people relationships...next week, is Lois' turn to have someone with her nose in her life.

Originally posted by jr23tw
All 3 ladies in Smallville have reason to go after Lex and bring him down. Yet the only ones I see who are interested in doing that are Lana and Lois.

And yet Chloe is the only one who has the rights to expose Lex.... cauise "she has been working on that since forever"

TRhe funny thing is that Chloe is going to end with the bread burned in the oven while the other two are actually moving their butts to expose lex.....

Not sitting in front of a PC moping and thinking they have ther right to say in others people lifes

kate_lang

11-08-2007, 09:47 AM

Lana! KK was so funny! She is perfect in comedy and drama!

Twitch

11-08-2007, 09:51 AM

Ah what a fantastic scene that was, both AM and KK were great!

And I was just wondering, if Chloe hadn't pulled the plug on Lana's little operation, do you think Lex would have? He knows she's been watching him now right? I got the feeling that Lex knew in this epsiode and liked that she was obsessed with him and watching him, from his comment to Clark in their last scene.

theotherJane

11-08-2007, 10:00 AM

After watching that scene, I have to say that I'm disappointed.
They call that a confrontation?

I was seriously expecting a verbal beatdown.

Lauren17

11-08-2007, 10:08 AM

I voted for Chloe. Under tough circumstances and if people she cares about are in trouble, she can hold her own. She has proven that many of times. Chloe's uncle is General Sam Lane. I am pretty sure Lois, Lucy and Chloe have spent some time together as children. Lois's army training could have rubbed off on Chloe--even if it is just a little.

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 10:12 AM

The big difference is that Clark and Chloe do illegal things for the greater good to help others and Lana is doing it for her own revenge.

Clark doesn't do revenge.

Lex is loving all the attention Lana is giving him. she is obsessed and as he told Clark obsession out lasts anything even love.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
The big difference is that Clark and Chloe do illegal things for the greater good to help others and Lana is doing it for her own revenge.

Clark doesn't do revenge.

Lex is loving all the attention Lana is giving him. she is obsessed and as he told Clark obsession out lasts anything even love.
Agreed,plus lana tells chloe after all lex has done she has a right to protect herself.But lex wasnt after her while she was lookin over him,she wasnt protectin clark at all.She was tryin to seek revenge and thats why chloe cut the feed and clark compared her actions to lex.

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 10:33 AM

Then we just have to agree to disagree. Love how people forget their loved characters went through the same thing at least once in this show.

Chloe was obsessed with finding out Clark's secret for years. Even going of the deep end and against any good morals to find out. Same as Lex.

But it's Lana. I get it.

AndrewVDk

11-08-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw

Chloe had no business taking down the feed. Lana was not hurting anyone with watching Lex. Maybe herself but that wasn't a danger to Clark. Only to herself. And it wasn't Chloe's decision to make.

Also I think she made a big mistake by cutting Lana off. Mainly because that surveillance might have come in handy in the future.

As much as I love Chloe, I have to agree with you on this!! Chloe had no business taking down the feed.
I feel sorry for Lana!! No one likes her!!

Timester

11-08-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw
Then we just have to agree to disagree. Love how people forget their loved characters went through the same thing at least once in this show.

Chloe was obsessed with finding out Clark's secret for years. Even going of the deep end and against any good morals to find out. Same as Lex.

But it's Lana. I get it.

Forget that it's Lana. Would you say the same thing if it was someone else. Do you really think that Chloe wouldn't do the exact same to stop Lex being killed? Every single person that tried a revenge against Lex ended up in Belle Reeve. But I guess since it is Lana, she can kill people...

Chloe did a great favor to Lana, it's not Chloe's fault that Lana decided to ignore it.

Mello Penelo

11-08-2007, 10:55 AM

I haven't even seen the episode yet, but from just reading that, I knew this scene would be watered down. No one is allowed to really give Lana a piece of their mind. :\

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw

But it's Lana. I get it.

Exactly :rotfl: :rotfl:

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Timester
Forget that it's Lana. Would you say the same thing if it was someone else. Do you really think that Chloe wouldn't do the exact same to stop Lex being killed? Every single person that tried a revenge against Lex ended up in Belle Reeve. But I guess since it is Lana, she can kill people...

Chloe did a great favor to Lana, it's not Chloe's fault that Lana decided to ignore it.
I don't understand your post one bit to be honest. Are you saying if it was someone else doing the feed and someone stopped it I wouldn't have a problem with it? Because then you are wrong. Deciding over someone's head with so much as talking to the person is always the wrong thing to do no matter who. So if Lana was the one stopping Chloe from keeping watch on Lex I would have a problem with it too.

Also the killing Lex thing I don't get. Can you kill someone with survailance? Because that's all I'm talking about here. They way other people decided to go behind Lana's back to decide what's good for her. And how certain people who did shady things in their past are suddenly the moral compass and get to decide who is worth being part of someone's life and who isn't.

If Chloe actually went to Lana to talk to her. Telling her how doing what she is doing could possibly cost her more than just her own morals. It could cost her Clark. Because she can relate to that. It almost happened to her back in the days. And Lana decided of her own to take the feed down. Then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But making that decision without ever consulting Lana (whether it was Chloe or Clark or both). That I have a problem with.

theotherJane

11-08-2007, 11:35 AM

What confrontation?
I was yawning in the middle of watching that scene, and the only threatening word that came out of it was the last thing Chloe said "you should just know that I'm not going to let that happen."

Oh please and here I was expecting a real verbal beatdown, not some informational Isis 101 session. Lame.

Poyntz

11-08-2007, 11:36 AM

Did Chloe actually say she took down the live feeds? I remember her saying it wasnt lex. It could of been Clark. She never said who actaully did. Unless i missed a line. Maybe she implyed it was her.. I dont know. I have to watch it again. I personally loved the scene. I thought Both KK and AM did amazing.

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by theotherJane
Oh please and here I was expecting a real verbal beatdown, not some informational Isis 101 session. Lame.
And Chloe obviously didn't complete her research. There was more about Isis than what she mentioned. Way more important things too. But oh well.

I guess they ditched the whole Lana/Kara thing for this. To rekindle an already dead triangle. It's a shame. Because SDK said the Lana/Kara was the coolest thing he knew about the Season before it started. Oh well.

theotherJane

11-08-2007, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw

I guess they ditched the whole Lana/Kara thing for this. To rekindle an already dead triangle. It's a shame. Because SDK said the Lana/Kara was the coolest thing he knew about the Season before it started. Oh well.

You're right, forgot about that. Oh well, wouldn't be the first time. :\

kate_lang

11-08-2007, 12:13 PM

Also the killing Lex thing I don't get. Can you kill someone with survailance? Because that's all I'm talking about here. They way other people decided to go behind Lana's back to decide what's good for her. And how certain people who did shady things in their past are suddenly the moral compass and get to decide who is worth being part of someone's life and who isn't.

If Chloe actually went to Lana to talk to her. Telling her how doing what she is doing could possibly cost her more than just her own morals. It could cost her Clark. Because she can relate to that. It almost happened to her back in the days. And Lana decided of her own to take the feed down. Then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But making that decision without ever consulting Lana (whether it was Chloe or Clark or both). That I have a problem with.
Agree 100%!
I think Chloe and even Clark not have right judge Lana's action because they make wrongs thing in the past too. Clark wanted revenge so many times in the past... he almost kill lionel because his father death, he almost kill the guy that stole his father watch.
And Chloe sold her soul for lionel in the past.. because what? Jealousy of lana and clark.:rolleyes: Again nobody is saint.

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by jr23tw
And Chloe obviously didn't complete her research. There was more about Isis than what she mentioned. Way more important things too. But oh well.

Was there? Chloe should have done more research?
Care to explain to us what that is? Did we miss something? Lana says it's to help meteor infected people and their families but so far it's only words.

Honey45

11-08-2007, 12:16 PM

I read the spoilers for this, and I thought it was going to be pretty good.
But for some reason when Chloe was confronting Lana, it didn't seem like it was because she was Clark's friend.

I was thinking the whole time "He doesn't want you, Chloe. He never will. Get over it" .. even though she never mentioned wanting to date Clark.

I don't know. It was weird. That's how it seemed to me though.

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Was there? Chloe should have done more research?
Care to explain to us what that is? Did we miss something? Lana says it's to help meteor infected people and their families but so far it's only words.

I think that person was talking in terms of the Greek Goddess Isis, not Lana's foundation.

Originally posted by Poyntz
Did Chloe actually say she took down the live feeds? I remember her saying it wasnt lex. It could of been Clark. She never said who actaully did. Unless i missed a line. Maybe she implyed it was her.. I dont know. I have to watch it again. I personally loved the scene. I thought Both KK and AM did amazing.

I didn't think Chloe took them down.
I think Lana said "I guess Lex cut me off" and Chloe said "I didn't know big sister was watching" (or vice versa).

I don't remember Chloe saying it was or wasn't Lex.

BadToad

11-08-2007, 12:20 PM

I guess my question would be what difference does it make about the feeds? From dialogue in the episode, Lex makes it clear that he's aware Lana is watching him. And he LIKES it. So, its not like Lana is going to catch him doing something he doesn't want her to see.

At least that was my impression reading some of the dialogue. Maybe that will change when I see the episode.

As for Chloe's warnings to Lana about Clark, I liked it. I don't believe that Lana is considering how her actions effect Clark right now. And as a Clark fan, I really appreciate that he's got such a good friend in Chloe. Lana is in a weird place, and I think Chloe was being pretty gentle in reminding her how her actions could end up hurting Clark very badly. Because honestly, I'm not seeing that as a big priority with Lana right now. IMO

Honey45

11-08-2007, 12:21 PM

We've never seen Chloe fight, have we?

Lana kicked Chloe's ass in Delete.
And I think Lana beat up some guy once.

I'm gonna have to go with Lana.

Ilovebeinglost

11-08-2007, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by HeddyH

I was thinking the whole time "He doesn't want you, Chloe. He never will. Get over it" .. even though she never mentioned wanting to date Clark.

I didn't think Chloe took them down.
I think Lana said "I guess Lex cut me off" and Chloe said "I didn't know big sister was watching" (or vice versa).

If you read the first post you see the exact words. She said " it wasn't Lex"

And no the confrontation isn't aabout Chloe wanting Clark.

ana and and finally friggin Lana is with Clark why can't she just be happy with that?

That's because she doesn't love him like he loves her.

myankskent

11-08-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by HeddyH
I read the spoilers for this, and I thought it was going to be pretty good.
But for some reason when Chloe was confronting Lana, it didn't seem like it was because she was Clark's friend.

I was thinking the whole time "He doesn't want you, Chloe. He never will. Get over it" .. even though she never mentioned wanting to date Clark.

I don't know. It was weird. That's how it seemed to me though.

I didn't really take the scene that way, but the one thing that I will say is that Chloe needs to back off a bit when it comes to Clana. I understand that she is trying to protect Clark, but Clark knows the truth about what Lana has done and he is a big boy. I think that Chloe needs to let Clark deal with the situation because in reality, it's none of her business what goes on between Clark and Lana. I'm all for her giving Clark advice, but putting herself right in the middle of Clana's problems won't do her character any favors, IMO, as past seasons have shown. JMHO.

Honey45

11-08-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
I didn't really take the scene that way, but the one thing that I will say is that Chloe needs to back off a bit when it comes to Clana. I understand that she is trying to protect Clark, but Clark knows the truth about what Lana has done and he is a big boy. I think that Chloe needs to let Clark deal with the situation because in reality, it's none of her business what goes on between Clark and Lana. I'm all for her giving Clark advice, but putting herself right in the middle of Clana's problems won't do her character any favors, IMO, as past seasons have shown. JMHO.

That's true. If I had problems with my boyfriend, I wouldn't want a [mutual-but-more-loyal-to-me] friend confronting him, even if they were looking out for me.

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
If you read the first post you see the exact words. She said " it wasn't Lex"

And no the confrontation isn't aabout Chloe wanting Clark.

I know the confrontation wasn't about Chloe wanting Clark, I said that's just how I felt while watching the scene.

Timester

11-08-2007, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by jr23tw
I don't understand your post one bit to be honest. Are you saying if it was someone else doing the feed and someone stopped it I wouldn't have a problem with it? Because then you are wrong. Deciding over someone's head with so much as talking to the person is always the wrong thing to do no matter who. So if Lana was the one stopping Chloe from keeping watch on Lex I would have a problem with it too.

Did you ignored the part where I said everyone that did the same thing on the past ended up dead or Belle Reeve on purpose?

Originally posted by jr23tw
Also the killing Lex thing I don't get. Can you kill someone with survailance? Because that's all I'm talking about here. They way other people decided to go behind Lana's back to decide what's good for her. And how certain people who did shady things in their past are suddenly the moral compass and get to decide who is worth being part of someone's life and who isn't.

Perhaps precisely because what Chloe suffered in the past she does have the moral ground to warn Lana? Ever thought of that?

Originally posted by jr23tw
If Chloe actually went to Lana to talk to her. Telling her how doing what she is doing could possibly cost her more than just her own morals. It could cost her Clark. Because she can relate to that. It almost happened to her back in the days. And Lana decided of her own to take the feed down. Then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But making that decision without ever consulting Lana (whether it was Chloe or Clark or both). That I have a problem with.

...

Since when it's normal to spy someone, especially when that someone is Lex? Of course Chloe was troubled with it, because she knew that what effects Lana, effects Clark.

Understand one thing, this is all about Clark.

jr23tw

11-08-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Timester
Perhaps precisely because what Chloe suffered in the past she does have the moral ground to warn Lana? Ever thought of that?
Yes. Which is why I said talking first. Then actions. Not the other way around. Which is exactly what Chloe did.

Timester

11-08-2007, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by jr23tw
Yes. Which is why I said talking first. Then actions. Not the other way around. Which is exactly what Chloe did.

Quoting myself:

...

Since when it's normal to spy someone, especially when that someone is Lex? Of course Chloe was troubled with it, because she knew that what effects Lana, effects Clark.

Understand one thing, this is all about Clark.

myankskent

11-08-2007, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by HeddyH
That's true. If I had problems with my boyfriend, I wouldn't want a [mutual-but-more-loyal-to-me] friend confronting him, even if they were looking out for me.

Well, especially since Clark knew about what Lana was doing. I can understand Chloe going to Lana or even Clark if he was in the dark about what she was doing. IMO, all Chloe did there was create an unnecessary rivalry between herself and Lana that could potentially cause more problems for Clark in the long run. If Chloe truly felt that Lana was unstable, then going to her and giving her a warning is only going to add fuel to the fire. I would've rather seen her go to Clark and warn him rather than going to Lana.

operadiva

11-08-2007, 01:46 PM

Lana better stand again outside with Clark so lightening can strike ..so she an get Clark's powers again..Before Chloe rips her a new one..I hoping that When Chloe does is in slow motion..

JeLLy123

11-08-2007, 02:01 PM

IMO i dont like the idea of Lana and Chloe being at odds with each other....I like when there friends....remeber in Freak the only thing Lana wanted was to spend time with her best friend Chloe....those are the times that I liked...I hope they are still friends after this episode

operadiva

11-08-2007, 02:05 PM

They were never friends..true friends..they only have one thing in common Clark...
if it weren't for Clark..Chloe wouldn't care..too much about her..

redraven

11-08-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
The Chlana confrontation:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7OY66YZm9k

Ugh I hate that scene. Who died and made Chloe pope? :rolleyes: Seriously, who is she to decide what's right and wrong for Clark with out even knowing the whole story? She illegally hacks into databases all the time but when Lana has security cameras in Lex's mansion it's wrong? (Well, it's wrong for both of them to do that stuff but still, not my point.) /rant.

Anyway...like I said before Lana would win.

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by theotherJane
After watching that scene, I have to say that I'm disappointed.
They call that a confrontation?

I was seriously expecting a verbal beatdown.

This is true, but I have a feeling this is just the beginning of it all.
Chloe is being nice right now, Lana really hasn't done anything to Clark yet. If she should, then all hell is going to break lose.

citizenlen

11-08-2007, 02:56 PM

I like the Chlana confrontation. Lana really needed a wake up call after being in the deep end. Chloe let her have it that if she really loves Clark she needs to be careful of her actions. It seems harsh but it's a lesson learned. Although, I wouldn't mind if she kicked Lex in the balls. The SOB really deserved the beating.

Anyway, Chloe was also in the same predicament in Truth. She went to an extent of getting information that the teacher went to prison and her son tried killing Chloe. She pretty much let the cat out of the bag from everyone, but I don't hate her for it. She was excited about her new found powers and abused it like Lana.

I'm actually more upset at Clark when a friend needed understanding he looked at Lana all disgusted. But when he was getting his freak on with HypnoHo, Lana forgave him. Or the numerous times he lied to her and made her feel inferior and unworthy of his trust. She continued to be his friend and listened to his drama.

Just wanted to add that everyone made good points. Yes, Lana's action can have a ripple effect on Clark because their together. So I understand Chloe being protective of Clark. I also concur that IF Chloe was the one who took down the feed, she shouldn't have. Chloe could have approach this matter by telling Lana she's opening a can of worms by having illegal surveillance and then let Lana decide for herself whether to take it down or not. Why? If she took it down herself, she is learning from her own mistakes and can redeem herself but if Chloe decides for her we don't know if Lana will continue to spy on Lex or how her moral values is.

Krypton935

11-08-2007, 03:31 PM

Chloe would kick Lana's ass!!!!! She is fricking awesome!!!!!

Krypton935

11-08-2007, 03:35 PM

It sounds awesome!!! I can't wait to see it tonight!!

redraven

11-08-2007, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by jr23tw
The whole scene showed a lot to me. First of all that the so called friendship between the two is one-sided at best. If it even deserves to be called friendship. Seems to me they are only friends when the scene calls for it. But not beyond that.

Chloe had no business taking down the feed. Lana was not hurting anyone with watching Lex. Maybe herself but that wasn't a danger to Clark. Only to herself. And it wasn't Chloe's decision to make. If Chloe is a friend to Lana she would have made serveral different decisions last Season. Yet with Clark she has to go drastic measures right off the bat.

Also I think she made a big mistake by cutting Lana off. Mainly because that survailance might have come in handy in the future. The Chloe I have known over the years wouldn't have done that. Keeping an eye on Lex is exactly what everyone needs right now. If it wasn't for that Clark would have never known in last week's episode that Kara was abducted from the mansion. Hell in this episode we learned that Lex is out to 'protect' the world from the aliens. And last I checked that puts Clark and Kara in danger. Isn't that what Chloe is trying to do too? Protecting Clark? So why cut off the source? Frankly that was pretty stupid. And Chloe isn't stupid. She should have gone about this differently. Without going that drastic. I don't mind them having a discussion about the situation. But I'm pretty sure that wasn't a very smart move on Chloe's part.

I totally agree.

JeLLy123

11-08-2007, 04:05 PM

I like to see them as friends and I believe they are....

boingo

11-08-2007, 05:24 PM

Lana

operadiva

11-08-2007, 05:24 PM

If Chloe used her powers on Lana now that she has none .she would be dog food..Can we say where the heck is Shelby?...
Here Shelby here is your dinner!

operadiva

11-08-2007, 05:26 PM

Nope...that is a dream

lilkoolmaria

11-08-2007, 06:17 PM

You're all crazy...

Shelby would totally win! :D

Kal-ed

11-08-2007, 06:30 PM

Altough I agree completely with Chloe I do think that considering Truth, Chloe should be more forgiving, I would have at least liked Chloe mentioning her past experience in the matter.

miks

11-08-2007, 06:53 PM

I honestly thought in delete Chloe was holding back because it was Lana, she knew Lana didn't want to hurt her so she held back

And she decides because she's Clark's best friend, and hacking into databases to help the future superman and spying on Lex Luthor to get revenge is completely different! You're trying too hard to defend her wrong doings

pharaoh8

11-08-2007, 07:01 PM

chloe

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 07:02 PM

No matter what Chloe and Clark have done in the past (affected by powers, spells, ulterior motives) it doesn't compare to

Lana sleeping with Lex.

Clark's enemy. C'mon. She chose to sleep with him, notice I am not using the wedding as evidence. She slept with Lex repeatedly. Of course they are both wary of her.

I think KK was awesome in this scene, the look at Chloe at the end made me think that Chloe's going to have some issues. People cannot keep defending the Lana character, she keeps making a strong of bad choices and they are now rolling down a hill collecting evil moss and will eventually mow down Chloe, Clark, Lex and the whole kaboodle.

I am hoping the Fever letter makes reappearance with Lana the one behind it. Totally mocking Chloe and her feelings and breaking the Chlark friendship up. I want some tension.

Mello Penelo

11-08-2007, 07:04 PM

Wah wah wah. That was so watered down Chloe could have just stood there and not said a word and it wouldn't have made a difference.

I know this will never happen, but I wish someone would just curse the hell out of her for being such a terrible, black-hearted person.

SolShine7

11-08-2007, 07:11 PM

That scene was so good!!! I always knew that their friendship would unravel one day. And that Clark would be the reason.

legolazzz04

11-08-2007, 07:12 PM

I would say Lana...did you see the way she made a Bruce Lee kick on Lois. That was cool!

lana kent 04

11-08-2007, 07:13 PM

wolverine316

11-08-2007, 07:13 PM

For the first time in years, I love Chloe. The way she told Lana off and will stop her from hurting Clark.

Guidron

11-08-2007, 07:15 PM

Gotta go with Chloe. It seems to me that her hearts in a better place than Lana's right now.

kp1984

11-08-2007, 07:15 PM

They actuallly fight before a few years back. It took both Adam kinght and Chole to take her out. I belive Lana dose have better fighting skill.

lana kent 04

11-08-2007, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by wolverine316
For the first time in years, I love Chloe. The way she told Lana off and will stop her from hurting Clark.

whatever, it's just her butting into to someone else's business again.

myankskent

11-08-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by lana kent 04

and correct if i'm wrong, but wasn't chloe the one who was trying to bring lex down last season? he kidnapped her and her mom and she just wants to walk away? disgusting.

and also, when is it chloe's decision who is best for clark? clark's a big boy and he can make his decision on his own. chloe, for once, mind your own frackin business.

Yup, I'm afraid that I am going to have to rain on the "Let's go Chloe" parade here. I have absolutely no problem with her not agreeing with what Lana did, but the fact is, it's between Lana and Clark. One of the things that has bothered me with Chloe's character in this series is that she is constantly thrown right in the middle of this Clana drama and in this case, it wasn't an accident. She created a potential rivalry between herself and Lana and I can't imagine how that is a positive as far as Clark's concerned.

Also, erasing the feed? I can perhaps live with Chloe warning Lana, but how she is not more interested in what Lana has uncovered? Does she care at all about taking down Lex?

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by lana kent 04
whatever, it's just her butting into to someone else's business again.

Protecting your best friend is now butting in???
I think Chloe had every right to do what she did. Chloe knows the destiny Clark has.
It's not that Lana don't trust Clark or Chloe to tell them what she was up to. Lana KNEW what they would say about. Going after Lex and trying to stop him is one thing, if done legally. What Lana was doing was wrong.

JeLLy123

11-08-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by operadiva
Nope...that is a dream

no i really believe they are....i hope they can get over this whole thing and just get along

lana kent 04

11-08-2007, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
Yup, I'm afraid that I am going to have to rain on the "Let's go Chloe" parade here. I have absolutely no problem with her not agreeing with what Lana did, but the fact is, it's between Lana and Clark. One of the things that has bothered me with Chloe's character in this series is that she is constantly thrown right in the middle of this Clana drama and in this case, it wasn't an accident. She created a potential rivalry between herself and Lana and I can't imagine how that is a positive as far as Clark's concerned.

Also, erasing the feed? I can perhaps live with Chloe warning Lana, but how she is not more interested in what Lana has uncovered? Does she care at all about taking down Lex?

exactly. she's supposed to be trying to get her career back in order and she's just turning something like this down? she could have everything she needs from lana and now she's created this rift. stupid move on her part.

SmallFarmGirl

11-08-2007, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by lana kent 04
whatever, it's just her butting into to someone else's business again.

No way, man. I would do the same thing for my friends. I mean, people have to live and learn and get hurt for their own good to a certain point, but Clark was so friggin' blind (and probably still will be after all that) and Chloe knows it. She's defending him.

lana kent 04

11-08-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
Protecting your best friend is now butting in???
I think Chloe had every right to do what she did. Chloe knows the destiny Clark has.
It's not that Lana don't trust Clark or Chloe to tell them what she was up to. Lana KNEW what they would say about. Going after Lex and trying to stop him is one thing, if done legally. What Lana was doing was wrong.

she's not protecting him! you protect people from danger, not from girlfriends, are you kidding me? yes, it is completely butting in. she has no right to try to delegate his personal life.

she sounds like a stalker ex-girlfriend. oh, wait...she was never his girlfriend!

Runestone

11-08-2007, 07:29 PM

I know there's a "Chloe vs. Lana" thread already, but I didn't see one for their actual conversation.

What did you think? Was Chloe right to say what she did to Lana? Was she right to tell her to tread lightly or suffer the repurcussions of hurting Clark? What do you think will happen in the future?

.... And I just saw a similar thread, so ignore this people... *Blushes* :\

myankskent

11-08-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
Going after Lex and trying to stop him is one thing, if done legally. What Lana was doing was wrong.

And how is what Chloe does right? Hacking into computer systems to get information...that's legal? I can see Chloe getting crazy about the kidnapping but Lex's video feed? I don't understand that and I certainly don't understand why she wouldn't be more interested in what Lana has uncovered about Lex, especially since she is supposed to be trying to take him down as well. To me, that's what the scene should've been about as far as Chloe was concerned.

citizenlen

11-08-2007, 07:35 PM

I know who would be more interested- Lois. Then its goodbye Chloe in the DP. It seems like Chloe lost her balls babysitting BDA. She was gung ho bringing down Lionel Luthor. Did she forget her mom was tested on along with her by Lex?

Polomontana

11-08-2007, 07:38 PM

I loved that part. That was a tense scene. Chloe was AWESOME in that scene.

Deana

11-08-2007, 07:39 PM

Lana will use her care bear/Puss-in-boots stare to subdue Chloe. Chloe will be put under Lana's spell. No one can stand against the stare.

Shelby with his mind saving bark, shows up and barks Chloe out of the spell.

Lois, who was Shelby's ride to the ring, jumps in and takes Lana out with the same kick she used on her in this episode. Lana tried to use the stare on her, but it doesn't work on cynical people she has kicked in the face.

Lois: Payback's a b*tch! B*tch!

Shelby and Chloe poses for the crowd. Shelby wins!

Randy G.

11-08-2007, 07:39 PM

Fantastic scene! It actually made me talk outloud to the tv screen. :lol:

SmallFarmGirl

11-08-2007, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by lana kent 04
she's not protecting him! you protect people from danger, not from girlfriends, are you kidding me?

And Lana is not dangerous ?

CLanaF23

11-08-2007, 07:42 PM

Lana....shes just tougher than chloe....

jazzylg

11-08-2007, 07:42 PM

chloe ruled, and that scene helped save the episode.

paolinki25

11-08-2007, 07:46 PM

Great scene. Chloe was amazing, and I love how loyal she is to Clark. She's a true friend to him.

CLanaF23

11-08-2007, 07:48 PM

i think that its good that chloe is showing loyalty to clark...but who is she to play cop to lana....i mean hows chloe to say..clark cant really trust lana and is lana loyal to clark? i think lana has total loyalty to clark and her spying on lex was not bein dis loyal to clark or hurting clark...i mean lana shouldnt have lied...but i think lana can be trusted..truthfully she really let her hate and want of revenge take over her..and it made her a lil too obsessed with takin lex down..even though i completely understand why she is that way..lex is a jerk..and chloe needs to be a better friend to lana instead of actin like lana is some bad person that doesnt really care about clark...im sorry wasnt lana the one that screwed up her life and married lex FOR clark?? chloe needs to chill....

LoveHurts38

11-08-2007, 07:49 PM

Best part of the show!!!

sdogg1m

11-08-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by lana kent 04
i 100% agree with you. i'm sick of chloe lovers acting like she never does anything wrong. i'm willing to admit mistakes on lana's part but chloe contributes in the "mistakes" category, too.

and correct if i'm wrong, but wasn't chloe the one who was trying to bring lex down last season? he kidnapped her and her mom and she just wants to walk away? disgusting.

and also, when is it chloe's decision who is best for clark? clark's a big boy and he can make his decision on his own. chloe, for once, mind your own frackin business.

Chloe never does anything wrong.

That is all

Kriminal

11-08-2007, 07:50 PM

she was too lenient with lana, she should of added some more threatening words in there

OH-IO Fan

11-08-2007, 07:51 PM

I have to agree, I loved that scene as well.

Chloe Rocks!!!

I also agree with jazzylg it helped save the episode!!

spideyfan

11-08-2007, 07:52 PM

by far the scene of the episode...

Superman's Princess

11-08-2007, 07:53 PM

I loved it. My favorite scene in the episode.

luvinChlark

11-08-2007, 07:54 PM

Could someone please explain to me what Chloe was saying to Lana? I didn't hear anything threatening.

ClarksGal

11-08-2007, 07:54 PM

^^I believe she basically told Lana that she would not allow her to hurt her friend.

Alexander III

11-08-2007, 07:56 PM

Chloe's protecting her male best frd from the female best frd.

NoSupeForYou

11-08-2007, 07:56 PM

Chloe. Lana-fu is as random as a lightning strike so...
Never mind.

Coyote

11-08-2007, 07:59 PM

Lana. A trained fighter will always beat an untrained one if they're anywhere close to the same size.

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 08:00 PM

I'm not saying Chloe never does anything wrong. She has made her fair share of f*ups. That is where she knows what obsession can drive someone to.
But there is a fine line between hacking into a system to get information, and obsessively spying on someone. Lana is about 3 steps away from going off the deep end. I understand her need to protect Clark, but kidnapping and almost killing Lex. I have to applaud Lana for having the balls to go after Lex, however there are other ways to handle the situation.

I still fall back to her protecting Clark, if not from Lana from himself. He is a BDA that has to have everything spelled out for him, unfortunately. Lana is not the girl from HS, she has changed.

wolverine316

11-08-2007, 08:11 PM

I was so proud of Chloe.

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 08:13 PM

That was just the beginning of the Chlana war.

luvinChlark

11-08-2007, 08:14 PM

What can Chloe do to Lana, though?

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 08:15 PM

Trained or not, it all comes down to heart and who has the most.

ClanaDestinyObsession

11-08-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Randy G.
Fantastic scene! It actually made me talk outloud to the tv screen. :lol:

so???:rolleyes: i do that ALL the time!! lol :rotfl: :D ;) ....but with CLana...

redraven

11-08-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by miks

And she decides because she's Clark's best friend,

Because that makes it perfectly okay for Chloe to decide she has the moral highground over Lana. :rolleyes:

and hacking into databases to help the future superman and spying on Lex Luthor to get revenge is completely different! You're trying too hard to defend her wrong doings

You're trying too hard to defend Chloe. I'm not trying to defend Lana's 'wrong doings', I'm expressing how I feel it's a double standard with Chloe and Lana. And besides, Lana did help Clark with those cameras, like when she helped Kara in (I think) Fierce by telling Clark she was at the Luthor mansion.

Honey45

11-08-2007, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
Trained or not, it all comes down to heart and who has the most.

Not necessarily..
Chloe could have all the heart in the world, but if Lana had been trained in Ass Kicking Classes for the past 15 years, she would beat Chloe down.

AndiGirl

11-08-2007, 08:24 PM

As Much as I love Chloe.....and her efforts, I wasn't really feeling her confrontation tonight. I mean...of course, her heart is in the right place...it always is. And I completely understand and support her wanting to look out for Clark. But as Lana's friend I would think she would be concerned for her as well...not just threaten her. I Dont know...something about that seemed very unlike chloe. Then....shutting down lana's spying system. I mean, it really isnt Chloe's business if she spies on Lex...granted its illegal...but it still wasnt Chloe's place to do that.

So...I do love that someone told Lana off...but it should have been Clark and not Chloe.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
That was just the beginning of the Chlana war.
Agreed,I figure we would once lana got mad when she heard chlark talkin about watchin her.Plus all epi chlark both were tryin to convince themselves that lana is harmless.By the end tho,this convo was no suprise.Great scene tho :)

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by AndiGirl
As Much as I love Chloe.....and her efforts, I wasn't really feeling her confrontation tonight. I mean...of course, her heart is in the right place...it always is. And I completely understand and support her wanting to look out for Clark. But as Lana's friend I would think she would be concerned for her as well...not just threaten her. I Dont know...something about that seemed very unlike chloe. Then....shutting down lana's spying system. I mean, it really isnt Chloe's business if she spies on Lex...granted its illegal...but it still wasnt Chloe's place to do that.

So...I do love that someone told Lana off...but it should have been Clark and not Chloe.
ya see thats the thing,she was nice to lana she didnt jus say stay away from clark.She jus warn her that her obsession could bring down clark in the process,and chloe isnt goin to let that happen.

As for bein concern wit clark more than lana,thats no suprise.I've never seen chlana as friends,espcially compared to chlark.And lana was bein wreckless wit his powers,yea they could lie to lois about the transfer but its puttin lex on clark's a$$.

Everyone the whole epi tried to warn clark about lana except chloe,she actually defended her til the end.And even then she tried to show pity,she says she doesnt think lana would hurt clark intentionally.

I think its great chloe gave lana the heads up,and threw in a warmin.Its jus her admittin(after denyin it all epi)that lana is capable of evil deeds,so she's sayin if it comes down 2 it her loyality is wit clark.Which it should...

tho I do agree clark should have had a more stern talk wit lana,clana's convo/clark's doubt is a start.I saw nothin wrong wit chloe's actions

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
Agreed,I figure we would once lana got mad when she heard chlark talkin about watchin her.Plus all epi chlark both were tryin to convince themselves that lana is harmless.By the end tho,this convo was no suprise.Great scene tho :)

I have a feeling it was more Clark trying to convince himself. Everyone else saw it coming.

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 08:48 PM

If anything people should be pleased that Chloe didn't run to Clark and dob on Lana. She confronted her, rather than doing the normal sneak-behind-the-back standard TV move. And let's face it, the producers want her in the middle of this. They cut to her during the sex earthquake for quite awhile and I think that knowing that a quake was caused by your friends having sex is right up there with hearing you parents have sex. Eww.

Chloe and Lana have never been friends. Lana has always used Chloe as a way to try and get info on Clark or stay in Smallville or have 'a' friend. Chloe has demonstrated what friends do with her immense loyalty to Clark, have we ever seen that kind of friendship with Lana? She's been friends with Lana for god knows what reason but it was never real on either side. Lana didn't want Chloe knowing she was alive and Chloe's called her on her Den of Inequity. Should Chloe have cut the cord? Well it saved Clark from doing it so maybe. In some ways maybe she is protecting the Clana relationship. Calling a reality check on Lana and getting her back on the path. Just another perspective. Chloe knows that Clark is set on Lana (hello its been 6 years) and nothing she can say will make an impact on him. She's trying to get Lana be what Clark needs her to be. Maybe she really is a great best friend!

SteveS

11-08-2007, 08:49 PM

I am really enjoying this season and as always, Chloe is a big part of that. With Smallville, there is really only one super character all the time and it is Chloe, what a superb girl she is.

I could care less about 'mythos', with any thinking at all, once he leaves Lana, ClarkMan should open his super eyes and realize the tremendous quality of young woman Chloe is. TnA can never compete.

MrZeppo

11-08-2007, 08:52 PM

As always, I love Chloe. Seriously, she's a great character. She could tell from the get go that Lana had less than noble intentions when she got Clark's power. Like Wolverine said, I am really proud of Chloe.

xaosthry

11-08-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by MrZeppo
As always, I love Chloe. Seriously, she's a great character. She could tell from the get go that Lana had less than noble intentions when she got Clark's power. Like Wolverine said, I am really proud of Chloe.

She had the feeling that Lana had bad intentions from the last episode. The right angle comment. Chloe was onto her from day one.

xrayvision

11-08-2007, 08:55 PM

I wonder if Lana will kill Chloe. It seems like bad things happening to Chloe are what wake up Clark to reality. It was true in Labyrinth, in Bizarro, in Cure, in Dichotic, and in several other episodes. I think Chloe's death by Lana is what will finally make Clark realize what Lana truly is. And it would be truly disgraceful that all these lives (starting with Jonathan) had to be lost for him to start his training.

AndiGirl

11-08-2007, 08:58 PM

You know what it is...I couldn't figure out what exactly bothered me about the confrontation...and I think it's the way Chloe said it. If you watch it...Chloe has this condescending tone the entire time she talks to Lana. It sounds like she's trying to be nice...but there is the underlying tone thats screaming "I will hunt you down if you hurt Clark....why dont you just leave already?" It's almost like she's sinking to Lana's level....just a tiny bit, and i dont like that. She's no where near the same playing field as Lana, but it wasnt like Chloe either.

I understand that she cares about Clark....a lot, but if he doesnt want to see lana for what she really is...thats his fault. Chloe cant play cop and shut down Lana's system.

Bottom line...the only person that really needed to be telling Lana off this episode was Clark...and of course he didn't. Well..maybe Lois and Grant too! haha. I just think Chloe was basically threatening Lana...and not warning her at all...which means Chloe is in one way or another stooping to a level thats beneath her.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
I have a feeling it was more Clark trying to convince himself. Everyone else saw it coming.
I think chloe tried convincin him 2 at first,remember her comments about clark givin in so quick.I cant remember her exact words,but it was obvious that both were in denial.Intil they found the hidden cameras at ISIS,at that point I think both stopped.But I agree clark was tryin to convince his self,and I think chloe was 2.They r both fool by the image of lana :rolleyes:

Originally posted by SteveS
I am really enjoying this season and as always, Chloe is a big part of that. With Smallville, there is really only one super character all the time and it is Chloe, what a superb girl she is.

I could care less about 'mythos', with any thinking at all, once he leaves Lana, ClarkMan should open his super eyes and realize the tremendous quality of young woman Chloe is. TnA can never compete.
well hey even chloe tonight didnt think clark will find that happiness wit lana,so who knows :D .But naw I agree,chloe was great tonight

CLanaF23

11-08-2007, 09:14 PM

who the hell is chloe to say.." i dont think your loyal to clark" ? are you serious..lana is soo loyal to clark she would never betray him and she made some mistakes and now she cant be trusted and chloe and clark wanna crucify her?..now chloe cant talk she betrayed clark before and lana never has..lana loves clark....chloe needs to stop playin cop...i thouhgt chloe was lana's friend? she should have a little bit more faith in lana than that..i think chloe was waiting for suttin like this to happen with lana so she could step in and show clark she is the ""supposed"" loyal one when lana aint done nothing to clark....yea she lied and that wasnt right..but she can be trusted..

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 09:16 PM

Okay to summarise buttinski trumps obsessive whore?

svtwamedfan05

11-08-2007, 09:19 PM

I love Chloe in this episode. She has definitely impressed me in this episode and she has got my respect back higher. However, I'm afraid if Clark doesn't wake up soon and Chloe ends up getting in between Lana and Clark, something might happen to her. I really hope nothing mad does happen but Lana is capable of anything now and we all know now that Lana has a serious problem. I hope Good trimphs over evil but remember this Smallville.

Lostfan588

11-08-2007, 09:19 PM

Mello Penelo

11-08-2007, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by sdogg1m
Chloe never does anything wrong.

That is all

Whatever. Chloe tried to sell out Clark to Lionel Luthor.

anisette

11-08-2007, 09:23 PM

I personally loved the confrontation between them. I don't think it was wrong for Chloe to do what she did. If you're truly someone's friend, you'll tell them off when they're doing something wrong, and try to stop them from doing it. That's exactly what Chloe did. She knew what Lana was doing wasn't right so she stopped it. Perhaps it wasn't any of her business, but if she didn't do it, Lana could still be obsessively spying on Lex and with how she was, she could have killed him easily.

I also loved the scene because it showed just how far both were willing to go for Clark. Both of them really love him, and want the best for him.

And for the people who think they are not true friends, watch the whole show again and focus on every single Chloe and Lana scene.

I'll give you a few examples.

1. Season 2- Chloe shows Lana her family tree and put Lana under "sister"

2. Everytime Chloe's in the hospital, Lana always goes to see her, and likewise.

3. Season 4- When Chloe was thought to be dead, Lana wanted to help find her.

4. Chloe is always there for support with Lana, including Lana's pregnancy and marriage.

5. For Lana's bachelorette party, the only person she wanted to hang out with was Chloe.

6. When Lana was thought to be dead, Chloe was stricken with grief.

If these aren't proof that these two are the best of friends, I don't know what is. Both view each other as the sister they never had.

svtwamedfan05

11-08-2007, 09:23 PM

I have a feeling when someone gets in Chloe's crosshairs, Chloe will stop at nothing to bring them down. Especially now if its Lana. GO CHLOE!!!!

Khyla

11-08-2007, 09:23 PM

way to go Chloe!

stand by your man! (er.. best friend ;))

Chloe and Clark stand for truth and justice, not foul play.

Deana

11-08-2007, 09:26 PM

I wonder why Chloe didn't even mention the fact that Lana almost killed Lois. I am thinking her doing this to Lois helped Chloe realize that trying to be sympathetic to Lana is pointless...

It's just a shame she has to protect someone who does not want to be protected. Just like she let Lana dig her on grave(Lexana) last season, she should let Clark with his Lana blinders do the same.

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by anisette
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4. Chloe is always there for support with Lana, including Lana's pregnancy and marriage.

I think Chloe questioned Lana about all this and Lana brushed aside her concerns. How come Chloe is a friend in this scenario but not in the Wrath one?

5. For Lana's bachelorette party, the only person she wanted to hang out with was Chloe.

That's b/c Chloe is all she has, a sometimes friend.

6. When Lana was thought to be dead, Chloe was stricken with grief.

I maintain Chloe was disappointed that she didn't get to witness it or she had footage of the blonde wig (and couldn't believe how stupid it looked and was laugh/crying).

Sorry I am being a sarcastic biatch now. There is evidence that they are friends but I think we can all agree that it usually is a plot device and when an ep needs something to lengthen it. The beginning of this season with the stall on revealing Lana being alive and the off screen reunion demonstrates this.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by CLanaF23
who the hell is chloe to say.." i dont think your loyal to clark" ? are you serious..lana is soo loyal to clark she would never betray him and she made some mistakes and now she cant be trusted and chloe and clark wanna crucify her?..now chloe cant talk she betrayed clark before and lana never has..lana loves clark....chloe needs to stop playin cop...i thouhgt chloe was lana's friend? she should have a little bit more faith in lana than that..i think chloe was waiting for suttin like this to happen with lana so she could step in and show clark she is the ""supposed"" loyal one when lana aint done nothing to clark....yea she lied and that wasnt right..but she can be trusted..
I think ur missin the point,chloe never said lana wasnt loyal to clark.She jus question if lana's obsession maybe more than her luv for clark.

She even tells lana she doesnt think lana would hurt clark intentionally,but her actions tonight show that she is capable of it.So as a friend chloe came to warn her,she was nice imo to lana compared to what I imagine.

But thats cause she is lana's friend,but she also gave her a warnin that if she has changed/plan to bring clark down she'll have a prob.

Both clark/chloe's response to lana's actions tonight were dead on,and I'm glad they didnt jus brush it off wit "The powers made her that way".Both were in denial of lana's intentions all epi but at the end had doubt,nothin wrong wit bein cautious.

Mello Penelo

11-08-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by anisette
6. When Lana was thought to be dead, Chloe was stricken with grief.

I bet she cried when Old Yeller died too.

Lostfan588

11-08-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by AndiGirl
Bottom line...the only person that really needed to be telling Lana off this episode was Clark...and of course he didn't. Well..maybe Lois and Grant too! haha. I just think Chloe was basically threatening Lana...and not warning her at all...which means Chloe is in one way or another stooping to a level thats beneath her.

Well, of course its a bummer that Clark didnt have the guts to tell off Lana- but why would Lois or Grant have nething to do with this? Chloe's Lana and Clark's mutual friend so if Clark wont stand up for himself, who better to freak her out than Chloe?

I thought Chloe kicked squirrel tail tonight!!

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by svtwamedfan05
I have a feeling when someone gets in Chloe's crosshairs, Chloe will stop at nothing to bring them down. Especially now if its Lana. GO CHLOE!!!!
I agree,thats why I'm hopin tonight was a setup of more to come.Imo chlana were only friends thru their luv for clark,but were never truly friends.And now I think chloe is open her eyez to see that lana isnt as perfect has her/clark build her up 2 be.Also lana's anger in the beginnin overhearin chlark talkin,and the triangle shot they setup wit the 3.I'm hopin they r settin up chloe/lana for a later showdown,would be nice.

litew8

11-08-2007, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by seacrystal
I just love the look on Lana's face when she realized it was Chloe who cut off the video feed. Yea, that was GREAT. HAHA :rotfl: Chloe was like, you're messing with the wrong person hun.

LexLuv180

11-08-2007, 09:36 PM

Physically it would Lanafu, but intellectually Chloe.

AndiGirl

11-08-2007, 09:37 PM

No..I meant Clark wasnt the only person who had the right to tell Lana off in this episode. Lois and Grant had some room for complaining as well! :)

anisette

11-08-2007, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by LexLuv180
Physically it would Lanafu, but intellectually Chloe.

I agree. I think in a physical fight, Lana would win. But when it comes to personal intelligence, Chloe wins, hands down.

LexLuv180

11-08-2007, 09:38 PM

I agree Chloe had no right taking down the feed. WHy should she care if Lana watches Lex? She hates him as well, and it's not her place.

Their scene was great besides all that though.

BadToad

11-08-2007, 09:39 PM

I liked that scene myself. Maybe Chloe did overstep by shutting down Lana's survelliance (which was likely to be useless anyway, since Lex was aware of it), but I think Chloe said some things to Lana that needed to be said. I don't believe Lana is showing any loyalty to Clark right now, outside of keeping quiet about his secret. I also don't think she's doing any of this to protect him. If that was the case, she wouldn't be living in Clark's house, but instead trying to put distance between her and Clark so she could continue her crusade against Lex without dragging Clark into the fallout.

And yes, Chloe has done disloyal things in the past, for which she has shown much remorse. So, I do believe she might know of what she speaks. I wasn't getting any sense of remorse off Lana for what she did at all. Not at all.

Chloe was upfront to Lana, honest, and laid her cards on the table. She also gave her the heads-up so that maybe Lana might change her ways before its too late.

No, Chloe can't protect Clark from his Lana blindness, but I do like that she's got his back. She's a good friend to him.

chantal

11-08-2007, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
I didn't really take the scene that way, but the one thing that I will say is that Chloe needs to back off a bit when it comes to Clana. I understand that she is trying to protect Clark, but Clark knows the truth about what Lana has done and he is a big boy. I think that Chloe needs to let Clark deal with the situation because in reality, it's none of her business what goes on between Clark and Lana. I'm all for her giving Clark advice, but putting herself right in the middle of Clana's problems won't do her character any favors, IMO, as past seasons have shown. JMHO.

Lana put Chloe in the middle when she asked Chloe to lie for her to Clark. And since Lana was even lying about the lie she wanted covered up, Chloe sure does have the right to call Lana on it. It wasn't because of Clark worrying about Lana being in danger that Lana didn't want Clark to know about the ISIS foundation, it was because she knew if he came there he would find her control center, just like he did. That's why she asked Chloe to lie.

Why do you think Chloe stopped the feed? Clark was there and Clark was pissed off. Isn't it much more likely he would just smash or heat vision something and shut it off right then? Since Lana is constantly going on about all the crimes she has committed to keep Clark safe, she can't really complain if he shuts down something that will put her in danger. After all, he is better able to protect himself than she can protect herself.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by anisette
I personally loved the confrontation between them. I don't think it was wrong for Chloe to do what she did. If you're truly someone's friend, you'll tell them off when they're doing something wrong, and try to stop them from doing it. That's exactly what Chloe did. She knew what Lana was doing wasn't right so she stopped it. Perhaps it wasn't any of her business, but if she didn't do it, Lana could still be obsessively spying on Lex and with how she was, she could have killed him easily.

I also loved the scene because it showed just how far both were willing to go for Clark. Both of them really love him, and want the best for him.

And for the people who think they are not true friends, watch the whole show again and focus on every single Chloe and Lana scene.

I'll give you a few examples.

1. Season 2- Chloe shows Lana her family tree and put Lana under "sister"

2. Everytime Chloe's in the hospital, Lana always goes to see her, and likewise.

3. Season 4- When Chloe was thought to be dead, Lana wanted to help find her.

4. Chloe is always there for support with Lana, including Lana's pregnancy and marriage.

5. For Lana's bachelorette party, the only person she wanted to hang out with was Chloe.

6. When Lana was thought to be dead, Chloe was stricken with grief.

If these aren't proof that these two are the best of friends, I don't know what is. Both view each other as the sister they never had.
I agree wit the first part,but the 2nd part I disagree.I think it shows that chloe is a better friend to lana,I've never bought that lana was a true friend to chloe.I think chloe is jus the only friend she has left,which explains the bachelorette duo party etc...Lana isnt close to lois but chloe has always made an effort to be by lana's side.So I think ppl doubt their friendship cause its more one sided than equal

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 09:50 PM

BadToad I completely agree to you. Chloe made some mistakes earlier but has proved since she's discovered the truth that she's loyal to Clark and will protect him. Lana continues to make mistakes and shows no sign of trying to fix them. She's dealing with the Lex problem by getting down and dirty. Clark's method is denial. How well does Lana really know Clark if she's questioned his morality with his powers, never crossing the line.

Another question - is having his powers a worthy reason for her choices while possessing the powers?

Clark doesn't see Lana clearly, she even called him on it in the barn. CHloe is the reality check, she doesn't want to believe it either but gives Lana the chance to rectify the situation. From the look in KK/Lana's eyes at the end of the confrontation scene, things don't bode well for Chloe.

Was Chloe a buttinski? Sure. She had good intentions and is trying to bring Lana back from the edge (Clark and CHloe realised she's closer than they ever thought).

Both girls have sacrificed for Clark - Lana married Lex (while clearly attracted to him despite his foibles) and Chloe broke up with Jimmy (despite her attraction to Clark). Both have reasons other than Clark for doing things.

Let's just congratulate the two actresses on an awesome scene.

Also wondering. Chloe and Clark discovered the room together. Chloe never stated that is was her or her alone that cut the feed. Maybe Clark asked her to as he knows nothing about technology or perhaps he did and she covered for him. Hmm

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by BlueJay
If anything people should be pleased that Chloe didn't run to Clark and dob on Lana. She confronted her, rather than doing the normal sneak-behind-the-back standard TV move. And let's face it, the producers want her in the middle of this. They cut to her during the sex earthquake for quite awhile and I think that knowing that a quake was caused by your friends having sex is right up there with hearing you parents have sex. Eww.

Chloe and Lana have never been friends. Lana has always used Chloe as a way to try and get info on Clark or stay in Smallville or have 'a' friend. Chloe has demonstrated what friends do with her immense loyalty to Clark, have we ever seen that kind of friendship with Lana? She's been friends with Lana for god knows what reason but it was never real on either side. Lana didn't want Chloe knowing she was alive and Chloe's called her on her Den of Inequity. Should Chloe have cut the cord? Well it saved Clark from doing it so maybe. In some ways maybe she is protecting the Clana relationship. Calling a reality check on Lana and getting her back on the path. Just another perspective. Chloe knows that Clark is set on Lana (hello its been 6 years) and nothing she can say will make an impact on him. She's trying to get Lana be what Clark needs her to be. Maybe she really is a great best friend!
I agree,I think chloe has built up a friendship in her mind for so long that she's tryin to be nice.She also believes that clark may never get over lana(tho she's hoped)so she accepts that lana might be it for him.

She was tryin to warn lana to be careful cause she has clark yet is pushin it,she's close to losin him.And imo tonight what chloe realize was that maybe her image of lana(bein the 1 for clark/bein a good friend/person)maybe as screwed as clark's.

She's tryin to be a friend to both,but her warnin was necessary.She trust lana to do the right thing,if not she's warnin her that she'll have to step in.

litew8

11-08-2007, 09:52 PM

Yea, CHLOE was GREAT!
She told LANA where to go!
She even called LANA out on the fact that she's capable of killing!
Then CHLOE was like - DON'T EVEN!
DO IT AND PAY LANA!
- - - - - -
CHLOE'S powers are going to be revealed more soon I think!

chantal

11-08-2007, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by BadToad
I guess my question would be what difference does it make about the feeds? From dialogue in the episode, Lex makes it clear that he's aware Lana is watching him. And he LIKES it. So, its not like Lana is going to catch him doing something he doesn't want her to see.

At least that was my impression reading some of the dialogue. Maybe that will change when I see the episode.

Lex knew Lana was watching him after she broke into the safe and stole the Scion material. So she did catch him doing something he didn't want her to see. He didn't want her to know about Scion.

Of course, after he did know, he probably would have put it to use somehow, but we'll never know.

MrZeppo

11-08-2007, 09:52 PM

I think Chloe didn't cut the feed to be nosey or to be a stalker. I don't even think she cared about the legal issue. I don't even feel this was about jealousy. This was 100% about protecting Clark. And of anyone, Chloe is probably the only person besides Clark who can really confront Lana and actually get through to her. And personally, I think she really did hit a chord with Lana.

I'm sure Lana wants to protect Clark, that's true. But that's not what this is about. This was about vengence, pure and simple. Lana wanted justice on her terms. And you heard Chloe, she doesn't think Lana would intentionally hurt Clark, but she realizes Lana is heading down a dangerous road and cut her off to not only protect Clark from getting hurt. But also to protect Lana from herself because she knows if it were still around Lana would probably continue spying on Lex and lying to Clark. She knows Lana is heading down a dark path and she might drag Clark down with her. Chloe understands obsession as we all know, she knows that it can be like a poison, it nearly destroyed her friendship with Clark.

What Lana was doing and what Clark and Chloe have done are completely different. Clark and Chloe have stopped Lex's schemes without having a 24/7 obsession with him because they were concerned with justice or protecting lives. And as much as I do like Lana now, what she's doing is unhealthy and motived by revenge more than anything else.

And I didn't see Chloe tell Lana to stay out of Clark's life. I think Chloe was checking Lana into place. That she can't be with Clark and not respect the code of ethics he lives by not killing. Now Lana knows there is someone who sees who she is and isn't fooled or blinded and that she won't let Lana go down that road. That Chloe will be watching her.

If Chloe did confront Lana beforehand, Lana would probably put on the sweet and humble act, but lied and hidden it. I mean really, if Lana wanted to, she probably hook everything up again to spy on Lex again. This way Chloe is making more of a dramatic gesture to reach Lana.

Honestly, I think Chloe did Lana a favor.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by BadToad
I liked that scene myself. Maybe Chloe did overstep by shutting down Lana's survelliance (which was likely to be useless anyway, since Lex was aware of it), but I think Chloe said some things to Lana that needed to be said. I don't believe Lana is showing any loyalty to Clark right now, outside of keeping quiet about his secret. I also don't think she's doing any of this to protect him. If that was the case, she wouldn't be living in Clark's house, but instead trying to put distance between her and Clark so she could continue her crusade against Lex without dragging Clark into the fallout.

And yes, Chloe has done disloyal things in the past, for which she has shown much remorse. So, I do believe she might know of what she speaks. I wasn't getting any sense of remorse off Lana for what she did at all. Not at all.

Chloe was upfront to Lana, honest, and laid her cards on the table. She also gave her the heads-up so that maybe Lana might change her ways before its too late.

No, Chloe can't protect Clark from his Lana blindness, but I do like that she's got his back. She's a good friend to him.
Agreed

Originally posted by chantal
Lana put Chloe in the middle when she asked Chloe to lie for her to Clark. And since Lana was even lying about the lie she wanted covered up, Chloe sure does have the right to call Lana on it. It wasn't because of Clark worrying about Lana being in danger that Lana didn't want Clark to know about the ISIS foundation, it was because she knew if he came there he would find her control center, just like he did. That's why she asked Chloe to lie.

Why do you think Chloe stopped the feed? Clark was there and Clark was pissed off. Isn't it much more likely he would just smash or heat vision something and shut it off right then? Since Lana is constantly going on about all the crimes she has committed to keep Clark safe, she can't really complain if he shuts down something that will put her in danger. After all, he is better able to protect himself than she can protect herself.
Agreed,thats why I found no prob in chloe/lana's confrontation tonight.Clark saw the feed and was upset,we kno lex didnt shut it down.So I assume it was chloe/clark or maybe jus chloe doin it after seein clark's reaction.Either way it needed to be stopped,cause it wasnt helpin clark like lana claim.She's out for her own revenge not to protect clark,even clark didnt buy it(wit the lionel kidnap).

Coyote

11-08-2007, 09:55 PM

There's nothing Chloe could really do to Lana. She needs to quit wasting people's time with silly empty threats, mind her own business, and get a life. Before Psycho Lana wacks her in the face with a shovel and sticks her hand in a bear trap.

paolinki25

11-08-2007, 10:08 PM

See? Scenes like these where they show Chloe's incredible loyalty and love for Clark are what reinforce my opinion that Lana can't never become Clark's confidant (like the role she has in the comics). It was just given to Chloe, and it's too freaking late to have Lana be that now. It's just too late.

svsabbiesv

11-08-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Randy G.
Fantastic scene! It actually made me talk outloud to the tv screen. :lol:
\haha randy. i was talkin to the tv the whole time..there were so many good scenes between all characters. but the part with lana and chloe was perfect..all the times fighting for clark's attention..who really has clark's back lol

litew8

11-08-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Coyote
There's nothing Chloe could really do to Lana. She needs to quit wasting people's time with silly empty threats, mind her own business, and get a life. Before Psycho Lana wacks her in the face with a shovel and sticks her hand in a bear trap. Oh yea? When Chloe decides to get mad enough - she's going to bring the SMACK DOWN to Lana that'll maker her wish she'd never attempted to mess with the Hall of Justice. I have a feeling that CHLOE'S powers are going to be realative towards her feelings. When she gets ANGRY, Lana is gonna be SORRY!

Billy Jor-El

11-08-2007, 10:18 PM

Chloe rocks! The look Lana gave after Chloe left just gives thought that there will be a showdown. Sweeeet.

If Clark knew what Chloe is doing for him, and since he's already becoming aware of Lana's emerging colors, he just might think he's really blown it by not being more to Chloe than just a "friend." I still don't think he derserves her, though, not as anything more than a friend. Super powers or not, let's not forget that Kara pointed out he is from a dysfunctional family :)

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 10:21 PM

I agree with the theory that it wasn't just Chloe who shut down the feed. If it was her, Clark knew she did and was hiding behind her skirts. CLark knew either way and was behind the move as far as I am concerned.

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Coyote
There's nothing Chloe could really do to Lana. She needs to quit wasting people's time with silly empty threats, mind her own business, and get a life. Before Psycho Lana wacks her in the face with a shovel and sticks her hand in a bear trap.

hahahahahahahaha!!! That was very funny. Lana may be capable of doing bad things but she couldn't take Chloe. Chloe backs down from no one and she was just trying to be a good friend unlike Lana. If you ask me there friendship is one sided anyways. lana doesn't care about Chloe all that much. She only cares about herself. She could never bring down Chloe Sullivan.:mad: :mad: :mad:

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
If you read the first post you see the exact words. She said " it wasn't Lex"

And no the confrontation isn't aabout Chloe wanting Clark.

ana and and finally friggin Lana is with Clark why can't she just be happy with that?

That's because she doesn't love him like he loves her.

^^^ I totally agree with the last part. I think she still loves lex.

Originally posted by JeLLy123
IMO i dont like the idea of Lana and Chloe being at odds with each other....I like when there friends....remeber in Freak the only thing Lana wanted was to spend time with her best friend Chloe....those are the times that I liked...I hope they are still friends after this episode

they were never really friends. Chloe considered her a friend but Lana didn't. In the past Lana said she couldn't trust her. Even all the good things Chloe did for her. Lana doesnt deserve her friendship.

Originally posted by operadiva
They were never friends..true friends..they only have one thing in common Clark...
if it weren't for Clark..Chloe wouldn't care..too much about her..

Yeah I agree, But throughout the series Chloe considered her a friend but Lana didn't. It was always a one sided friendship.

jposey

11-08-2007, 10:41 PM

The lecture was earned but coming from Chloe it was a little hypocritical. I really hope this doesn't hurt their friendship.

Anyway, great job to KK and AM.

Dyanara

11-08-2007, 10:41 PM

Chloe had every right to shut down Lana's project and she was right to do it. Actually she would have been right in calling the cops on Lana but she didnt she let her walk away with a warning. Lana is acting like a psycho bit** and Chloe warned her just by stating she knows she is dangerous and unhinged and she wont allow her to hurt any more of her friends and clark is #1 on that list. Actually in that scene I really believed Chloe no longer had feelings for Clark, she was just standing up for what she knew was right. I thought the Isis history was very interesting as well the same with Lionel's Deliliah comments. During horrible things and convincing yourself its to protect someone is over the line. Although this movie was stupid, the same scenario occurred in Star Wars Ep. 3 only I believe Anakin believed he was helping Padme more than Lana thinks she is helping Clark, Lana cares more about revenge than anything else.

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by CLanaF23
i think that its good that chloe is showing loyalty to clark...but who is she to play cop to lana....i mean hows chloe to say..clark cant really trust lana and is lana loyal to clark? i think lana has total loyalty to clark and her spying on lex was not bein dis loyal to clark or hurting clark...i mean lana shouldnt have lied...but i think lana can be trusted..truthfully she really let her hate and want of revenge take over her..and it made her a lil too obsessed with takin lex down..even though i completely understand why she is that way..lex is a jerk..and chloe needs to be a better friend to lana instead of actin like lana is some bad person that doesnt really care about clark...im sorry wasnt lana the one that screwed up her life and married lex FOR clark?? chloe needs to chill....

I disagree. Chloe needs to be a better friend to Lana... Are you sure we're watching the same show... Lana has never been a friend to Chloe. Chloe was just looking out for Clark... I think that deep down inside that Clark really doesnt trust her like he never had. He never trusted and now you know why...

I think that the reason why Chloe stepped up to Lana was because she knows that he is not capable of doing. All the bad things Lana has done in the past Clark never really had the balls to tell her anything. Chloe was just looking out for her bestfriend and Lana needs to chill before she gets into deep and cannot get out. The luthors got her once and she barely got out. But if they get her again she might not get out.

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 10:56 PM

Ultimately Clark is Chloe's best friend. Her loyalty will always lie with him! BFF trumps occasional F. Why does Chloe need to be a better friend to Lana, when Lana didn't even want Chloe to know she was alive initially?

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 10:57 PM

^^^ I agree.

Lana will never be a good friend to Chloe

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:00 PM

Cheers Bigx07.

When do you think Lana will be the complete Goddess of the Underworld? Or is she there already?

Brizzle

11-08-2007, 11:00 PM

It's funny in that all three girl characters on this show have the balls to do what Clark will never do which is try to bring down Lex. Tonite Lana made clark look like a pussy. Lois and Chloe have also done this too.

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:02 PM

It is the Castration of Clark not Smallville.

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 11:03 PM

He just doesnt want to put himself out there. He doesnt want Lex to suspect anything about him but it is a little too late for that. Imagine what Lex would do to Clark if he fully found out his secret. That is why Clark steers clear of Lex. He has a lot to loose so of course he would act like a pussy.

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:07 PM

For me its what Ollie has said to him, to reach out and help others more. He hasn't, I know the show's called Smallville but I wish he'd do his training and stop procrastinating. Although after the sexquake he's going to have to repair the barn and the tractor (again). :)

Brizzle

11-08-2007, 11:09 PM

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 11:10 PM

he helps out when he cans. Lana is holding him back.

Poyntz

11-08-2007, 11:12 PM

I'm still trying to figure out where people get that Chloe took down the live feed of lex? All she said was lex didn't do it. It could of been Clark for all we know. She never said she did it.
I think both KK and AM did a great job in that scene i loved it.

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 11:13 PM

I know I think that Clark did it though. I liked the way Chloe stood up for Clark.

jposey

11-08-2007, 11:14 PM

It was implied, and if anyone could do it Chloe could and I'm assuming she did it while Clark was stopping Lana.

MrZeppo

11-08-2007, 11:15 PM

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:21 PM

There are a few options with the feed as Chloe and Clark discovered the room together:

1. Chark and Chloe dismantled it together
2. Chloe dismantled it with Clark watching as he has no tech knowledge
3. Chloe dismantled it (with Clark knowing) after he left
4. Clark dismantled it with Chloe watching
5. Chloe dismantled it with Clark suspecting she'd do it
6. Chloe dismantled without Clark's knowledge aka Clark in denial and ignoring situation leaving Chloe to deal with it - high unlikely.

He did it, she did it or she did it with his knowledge and acceptance.

C'mon bugger the couch and the floor (and Lana) we all know that that tractor is the true love of any male with the last name Kent :D

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by BlueJay
I agree with the theory that it wasn't just Chloe who shut down the feed. If it was her, Clark knew she did and was hiding behind her skirts. CLark knew either way and was behind the move as far as I am concerned.
Seein as clark went to the mansion,I'm guessin him.The way lana made it sound the feed was cut at the mansion not ISIS buildin.Either way I agree,whether it was chloe/clark or both clark was there.He knew about the cameras and didnt agree wit them neither did chloe,and actions were taken :p

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 11:27 PM

Chloe didn't do it.

Bonita_LovesSuperman

11-08-2007, 11:29 PM

WOW! Was the CHlana scene just perfection, the tension together.. AM and KK did it so well, the tension WAS SO GOOD WOW. I don't how AM and KK did it so PERFECT... Chlana TENSION WAS FRUTING GOOD.. WOW I was so pumped after watching that scene.

Bigx07

11-08-2007, 11:31 PM

it was great. I wonder whats in store for them in the future.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by BlueJay
For me its what Ollie has said to him, to reach out and help others more. He hasn't, I know the show's called Smallville but I wish he'd do his training and stop procrastinating. Although after the sexquake he's going to have to repair the barn and the tractor (again). :)
Well techinically clark is trainin now,remember Jor-el sent him back in Kara and told him his trainin has begun.But I do agree clark needs to do more,ollie is tryin to do right but his wayz r not far off from lex imo.Thats why clark doesnt agree wit his methods even if he knows ollie is tryin to help.What ollie did point out tho was clark needs to help more,and not jus when friends/fam gets in danger.Imo clark was more proactive in s6 then he has this season so far.Its been about babysittin kara and(as lana pointed out)stayin on the farm,even his comments tonight implied he's tryin to live a normal life.He's doin the exact opposite of what he was doin last yr,he needs to get back out there

Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman
WOW! Was the CHlana scene just perfection, the tension together.. AM and KK did it so well, the tension WAS SO GOOD WOW. I don't how AM and KK did it so PERFECT... Chlana TENSION WAS FRUTING GOOD.. WOW I was so pumped after watching that scene.
agreed bonita,it was a great scene.very tellin imo :)

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:35 PM

You could feel the tension bubbling furiously beneath the surface. I totally agree Bonita

Bonita_LovesSuperman

11-08-2007, 11:39 PM

Far out:lol: Lana knew she was doing something wrong and Chloe told her off about it.... AM & KK deserve a pat on a back for that, just looking at both of them was like WOW:eek: It was sexy and so GREAT:lol:

Yeah Jay, their tension was bubbling.. AND very furiously.

D.M.A.

11-08-2007, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman
Far out:lol: Lana knew she was doing something wrong and Chloe told her off about it.... AM & KK deserve a pat on a back for that, just looking at both of them was like WOW:eek: It was sexy and so GREAT:lol:

Yeah Jay, their tension was bubbling.. AND very furiously.
it was great,KK/Lana had that soft innocent look the whole time like lana from s1.And AM/Chloe looked so calm yet pissed :lol: .Tha tension there was great,hopefully tptb r settin up for a future showdown.Its long overdue :)

BlueJay

11-08-2007, 11:56 PM

I think the kicker was the look KK threw in at the end. It was all in the eyes 'you are going down Sullivan'. I guess we'll see where Clark's allegiance lies in the next few eps

Poetic Chaos

11-08-2007, 11:59 PM

That was some major Chlownage.

CrazyforKal

11-09-2007, 12:02 AM

Great scene. Very intense. I'll be curious to see what happens to that friendship. Especially once Clana ends.

Bigx07

11-09-2007, 12:05 AM

IMO there is no friendship between Chloe and Lana.

Bigx07

11-09-2007, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by redraven
Ugh I hate that scene. Who died and made Chloe pope? :rolleyes: Seriously, who is she to decide what's right and wrong for Clark with out even knowing the whole story? She illegally hacks into databases all the time but when Lana has security cameras in Lex's mansion it's wrong? (Well, it's wrong for both of them to do that stuff but still, not my point.) /rant.

Anyway...like I said before Lana would win.

Long time no see redraven... but you know me and I am all for Chloe. And besides Lana wont beat Chloe. Hands down Chloe would take her down.

SweetOne

11-09-2007, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Poyntz
I'm still trying to figure out where people get that Chloe took down the live feed of lex? All she said was lex didn't do it. It could of been Clark for all we know. She never said she did it.

I actually am surprised that everyone jumped to the conclusion that it was Chloe. I did not get that impression AT ALL from the scene. I immediately thought she meant that Clark did it!

It never occured to me that she was talking about herself. I dunno....could be..I guess....but I still got the impression that Clark did it. Regardless, I think it was the right thing to do. Somebody needs to keep vengeful corrupted Lana in check.

Originally posted by Khyla
way to go Chloe!

stand by your man! (er.. best friend ;))

Chloe and Clark stand for truth and justice, not foul play.

AMEN!!!!

BlueJay

11-09-2007, 12:14 AM

I just felt like Chloe didn't feel the need to tell Lana who did do it as probably she and Clark discussed what to do after they cut from the room. I felt like they decided to cut the feed together and that was that.

STFanatic

11-09-2007, 12:21 AM

If Lex had cameras and microphones watching Lana's every move, that would be OK?
Spying on an ex-spouse is wrong no matter who it is.
If Chloe does die in the series, Lana will may be the one who does it.
I wonder if Lois will press charges? Nothing else, Lana should pay the ER & Doctor bills.

BlueJay

11-09-2007, 12:27 AM

Lana could even buy the Smallville Medical Centre - I think this is just the beginning. Lana's gonna be the Big Bad of this season.

ginnyfan

11-09-2007, 01:51 AM

Chloe's words to Lana in protection of Clark reminded me so much of Chloe's comments to Lex in the past, in protection of Lana. Hmm...

DarkChilde

11-09-2007, 01:59 AM

I so wanted to see the cat fight, then I wanted to here them both grovel to Clark about the other...

But at this moment Clark would probably trust Chloe a little more.

jr23tw

11-09-2007, 03:27 AM

Kinda funny that no one here sees the total hypocrisy displayed by both Chloe and Clark. But I guess since it's because of Lana that makes all the difference.

Chloe called Lana demented, disturbed and evil? LMAO.

What did Oliver and his JL fellows do to Lex? They spied on him, broke into his mansion, stole data from various computers and blew up a whole facility. And both Chloe and Clark helped them. Heck Clark wants to join them and Chloe supports them.

So where the hell do they think they get off on cutting Lana's feed off? She knows first hand what Lex is capable of. She knows more than anyone else about his projects and the people killed or murdered because of them.

There is no difference between Lana and Oliver in that aspect. Oliver also had Lex totured. So where is the difference between Oliver and Lana that it's ok when Oliver does those things but not Lana?

And don't someone say because it's Lana. Or because Oliver is the GA. That is hypocrisy too.

CallMeClark

11-09-2007, 04:27 AM

That was the best part of the episode. GO CHLOE!

samanta

11-09-2007, 06:41 AM

It was the best part of Wrath. Chloe's warning reminds me of Chlex in season 5. Lana's look in the end was great.
I loved AM and KK acting in this scene.
I think Chloe has the right to have this speech with Lana. She could have killed Lois after all.
Chloe has reason why to be afraid of what could Lana do next while trying to bring Lex down.

NoSupeForYou

11-09-2007, 06:52 AM

Ollie acts in the name of others, Lana is out for personal revenge and nothing more.

Timester

11-09-2007, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw
Kinda funny that no one here sees the total hypocrisy displayed by both Chloe and Clark. But I guess since it's because of Lana that makes all the difference.

Chloe called Lana demented, disturbed and evil? LMAO.

What did Oliver and his JL fellows do to Lex? They spied on him, broke into his mansion, stole data from various computers and blew up a whole facility. And both Chloe and Clark helped them. Heck Clark wants to join them and Chloe supports them.

So where the hell do they think they get off on cutting Lana's feed off? She knows first hand what Lex is capable of. She knows more than anyone else about his projects and the people killed or murdered because of them.

There is no difference between Lana and Oliver in that aspect. Oliver also had Lex totured. So where is the difference between Oliver and Lana that it's ok when Oliver does those things but not Lana?

And don't someone say because it's Lana. Or because Oliver is the GA. That is hypocrisy too.

One, Ollie is not Clark's boyfriend, nor does live under Clark's roof. Two, there is no official connection between JLA and Clark. Three, JLA was stopping the 33.1 army building, Lana was after revenge.

Hypocrisy would be if Lana was indeed try to help the meteor freaks like she said. She was not.

Chloestheone

11-09-2007, 07:12 AM

All Chloe has to do is look over Lana's shoulder and say "Clark?". Lana will look and Chloe will deck her. Lana's not the brightest bulb...not her fault...she's been knocked out too too many times.

jr23tw

11-09-2007, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Timester One, Ollie is not Clark's boyfriend, nor does live under Clark's roof. Two, there is no official connection between JLA and Clark. Three, JLA was stopping the 33.1 army building, Lana was after revenge.
What makes that different? Oliver used the same methods and neither Clark nor Chloe had problems with it. They went along with it. Same thing to me. Realtionship status play no factor in this. We were talking methods. As that seemed to be the problem both Chloe and Clark had with what Lana was doing.

Hypocrisy would be if Lana was indeed try to help the meteor freaks like she said. She was not.
How do you know she didn't? Please prove that to me. As the foundation existed for months and the only scenes of Lana we have been getting was in her spy room. Except in Cure where Chloe walked in. There was a receptionist and people sitting waiting the background. Whose to say that wasn't all real? Of course all those people could be paid to be a cover. But seriously no one can prove whether Lana actually helped people or not. Because nothing was said or shown.

Kinda assuming there aren't you?

Perlenoire7

11-09-2007, 08:34 AM

I think Chloe was right to talk to Lana - they are friends - I don't think she should have gone to Clark first - and there is no mention that Chloe took the feed down - She only stated that it wasn't Lex who cut her off. Chloe only told her that she sees her in a different light now and that her loyalties in their triangle is with Clark. I think the whole speech was more to let Lana know that is she has to make her choice of protecting one of her friends it will be Clark even it means that she will have to do it from Lana - and it is so like Chloe to do that. I say go Chloe - and btw I think Clark and Chloe took down the feed while they were there earlier. I don't think it was a Chloe only initiative otherwise she would have said so and not left it at a vague "it wasn't Lex"

theWatcher

11-09-2007, 08:58 AM

Lana better watch herself or the catfight is on!!! I want to watch!

Coyote

11-09-2007, 09:09 AM

Chloe was her usual pathetic self, following Clark like a dog. Stupid Clark has spent 7 years leaving his size 14 bootprint in Chloe's face as he tramples her to get to Lana, and Chloe just can't get enough of it. The girl has no self respect at all.

Chloe's idle threats against Lana came off as silly, since there's not much she can really do. If she gets to be too much nuisance, Psycho Lana will just whap her in the face with a shovel and stick her hand in a bear trap.

Bigx07

11-09-2007, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Chloestheone
All Chloe has to do is look over Lana's shoulder and say "Clark?". Lana will look and Chloe will deck her. Lana's not the brightest bulb...not her fault...she's been knocked out too too many times.

hahahahaha!!! LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

NoSupeForYou

11-09-2007, 09:22 AM

With all the abuse Chloe has been taking this season I think she has a lot of pent up rage as well. She would unleash it on the girl who stole Clark from her.

Dew_drops

11-09-2007, 09:28 AM

Lana - Lex taught her how to fight.

samwinchestermustdie

11-09-2007, 09:31 AM

chloe would win hands down. all lana or clana or whatever would do is make a mean face like shes been doing all this season.

xaosthry

11-09-2007, 09:32 AM

BTW-- correct me if I'm wrong here, but Chloe had Lana's ass in Delete until Lana brought out the ax. Still Chloe held her own.

NoSupeForYou

11-09-2007, 09:38 AM

Lana got her but kicked by a comic book nerd this season. My money would be on Chloe. Besides, Lana would lose on purpose because she would rather have Clark's pity and knows Clark would blame Chloe.

Bigx07

11-09-2007, 09:43 AM

probably so. I wondered when did Lana learn martial arts???

samanta

11-09-2007, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Bigx07
probably so. I wondered when did Lana learn martial arts??? It was during season 1-3. I'm not sure in which one. Lex taught her it.

Demne

11-09-2007, 10:28 AM

Lana would win with her high heels to Chloe's face. "Owww my eye"

Timester

11-09-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by jr23tw
What makes that different? Oliver used the same methods and neither Clark nor Chloe had problems with it. They went along with it. Same thing to me. Realtionship status play no factor in this. We were talking methods. As that seemed to be the problem both Chloe and Clark had with what Lana was doing.

No, we are talking about purposes here. Lana's purpose was pure revenge.

Originally posted by jr23tw
How do you know she didn't? Please prove that to me. As the foundation existed for months and the only scenes of Lana we have been getting was in her spy room. Except in Cure where Chloe walked in. There was a receptionist and people sitting waiting the background. Whose to say that wasn't all real? Of course all those people could be paid to be a cover. But seriously no one can prove whether Lana actually helped people or not. Because nothing was said or shown.

Kinda assuming there aren't you?

It is you that are assuming, not me. There is nothing on screen showing that Lana was indeed helping the meteor freaks, nothing at all. The "foundation" wasn't even working on Cure. It was on Lara that Chloe found out. Fanwanking is not facts.