Chloe vs. Lana: The Chlana Confrontation [Archive] - Page 2

Honey45

11-09-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Timester
One, Ollie is not Clark's boyfriend, nor does live under Clark's roof. Two, there is no official connection between JLA and Clark. Three, JLA was stopping the 33.1 army building, Lana was after revenge.

Hypocrisy would be if Lana was indeed try to help the meteor freaks like she said. She was not.

I don't want to start a debate or anything, so I'm just going to say this.

You could say Lana is no different than Oliver in this aspect. Oliver was helping meteor freaks, and it seems like Lana is helping anyone who might come into contact with Lex.

I don't know. If it was me, and a guy had done to me all the things Lex did to Lana (fake pregnancy, fake miscarriage, hit her, etc.), I would like to think I would do anything in my power to stop him from hurting anyone else the same way.

Originally posted by Odysseus
Exactly, Lana and Chloe fought in Delete and Chloe demonstrated her great brawling skills in that scene. She had the upper hand until Lana was lucky enough to land next to the box where that axe was.

I'd honestly love for Chloe and Lana to fight again before the season ends. Chloe would pwn Lana

Did I miss something?
Other than Chloe hitting Lana down the stairs, I remember that whole scene about Lana kicking Chloe's ass.

NoSupeForYou

11-09-2007, 02:08 PM

Have we actually seen Lana help any freaks out?

I think Chloe is going to end up exposing Isis as a complete fraud. Maybe Lana is gathering her own army.

Dannyblue1

11-09-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by HeddyH
You could say Lana is no different than Oliver in this aspect. Oliver was helping meteor freaks, and it seems like Lana is helping anyone who might come into contact with Lex.

Actually, it doesn't look like Lana was actually helping the meteor infected. Even if she was doing a little something that be qualified as help, it was only a front, and a tiny fraction of what her real operation was.

Villains in the comics often hide their nefarious doing behind good deeds. In fact, comic Lex (and L&C Lex) does it all the time.

I don't know. If it was me, and a guy had done to me all the things Lex did to Lana (fake pregnancy, fake miscarriage, hit her, etc.), I would like to think I would do anything in my power to stop him from hurting anyone else the same way.

One of the big morals in comic books is that true heroes never stoop to the villain's level. And, if they do, it is acknowledged that they are wrong. Heck, that's why Superman and Batman sometimes don't get along. Superman thinks Batman skirts a little too close to the line of acting like the villains their supposed to be fighting against. And (unless you're talking about some of Batman's more graphic phases) even he never crossed the lines Lana has been crossing.

There are ways for Lana to go about stopping Lex that wouldn't involve crossing any moral lines. But she's chosen to act like a villain in her pursuit of supposed justice. And she's more interested in hurting Lex than in helping anybody else. That, "I'm protecting other people," line is just something she can tell herself to justify her actions.

kris10

11-09-2007, 02:36 PM

chloe! remember in progeny people she kicked that guys ass

lana kent 04

11-09-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by xaosthry
BTW-- correct me if I'm wrong here, but Chloe had Lana's ass in Delete until Lana brought out the ax. Still Chloe held her own.

uh, you are wrong. lana was totally kicking her butt!

NoSupeForYou

11-09-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Dannyblue1

One of the big morals in comic books is that true heroes never stoop to the villain's level. And, if they do, it is acknowledged that they are wrong. Heck, that's why Superman and Batman sometimes don't get along. Superman thinks Batman skirts a little too close to the line of acting like the villains their supposed to be fighting against. And (unless you're talking about some of Batman's more graphic phases) even he never crossed the lines Lana has been crossing.

Great point. That's exactly what makes Batman such an interesting character. He doesn't have superpowers like Superman and he struggles and balances on that edge like a normal person. Superman on the other hand has the powers that place him above the average person, so he cannot act like a normal person. It seems like TPTB are trying to make Clark into Batman.

kris10

11-09-2007, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by jr23tw
Then we just have to agree to disagree. Love how people forget their loved characters went through the same thing at least once in this show.

Chloe was obsessed with finding out Clark's secret for years. Even going of the deep end and against any good morals to find out. Same as Lex.

But it's Lana. I get it.

she didnt go all out she found out about his adoption and when oh yes with Lionel she never gave him anything. Oh yea when Clark and chloe mended fences she OWNED up to the fact that she was wrong for digging and kept the promise to not dig anymore(season 3 I believe) all this crap about Chloe "bending"rules. She faces what she does and takes responsibility for that.

Originally posted by Demne
Lana has millions, she should just assassinate Chloe and we will all be happy. Oh yea, make sure it looked like Lex did it so Clark will go after him.

Maybe thats what happens in Gemini it just so happens Chloe's on the elevator of doom,yea right.

kentfamily

11-09-2007, 03:16 PM

Lana and Chloe should get together and bring Lex down.

CLanaF23

11-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by kentfamily
Lana and Chloe should get together and bring Lex down.

hell yea..i agree on that one...instead of chloe tryna play cop..we all noe she isnt the one to talk..

ms.c.

11-09-2007, 04:38 PM

Chloe would kick her ass.

LiveForever

11-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Lana would definitely win in a smack down.

SmallvilleMan

11-09-2007, 07:32 PM

I thought Chloe was out of line.........So now she's all of a sudden not friends with Lana and making threats out of no where?

kp1984

11-09-2007, 07:52 PM

I don't know Lana handled Adam Knight pretty good. Think Chole could have done that

shlyish

11-09-2007, 08:02 PM

^^Yeah really. Did'nt she give Lex the same speach? And she deffinitely hasnt owned up to that.

I voted for Lana.

Sure Chloe can give a few punches and kicks but in the end she'd loose to Lana.
I think Lana has had more experience with kicking other peoples butt.

Bigx07

11-09-2007, 08:21 PM

If Lois can fight her ass off than so can Chloe.

Mrs.Bizzaro

11-09-2007, 08:28 PM

Lois can fight cause of her father

Chloe actually never fought anyone - she's attacked people with weapons but never fist fought.

.....wait....x that

didnt lana and chloe already fight?

LoveHurts38

11-09-2007, 08:45 PM

Chloe you got the last word from that woman....Now, B$#ch slap her like Delete Please....:D

shlyish

11-09-2007, 09:02 PM

^^Wasnt that the only thing she did and then Lana did the rest and then Adam saved Chloe?.

Dannyblue1

11-09-2007, 09:20 PM

Actually, Chloe fought pretty darn well in "Hydro." And we've definately seen her show some moves in other episodes. So I'd say she's picked up some pointers since "Delete." After all, Lana became a Kung Fu master in one episode. Surely Chloe could learn quite a bit it three years.

As for who would win in a fight between the two it's a ridiculous question. Whoever the writers wanted to win would win.

FULLMETALMARTA

11-10-2007, 12:55 AM

I think she finally saw Lana for the villain she is...and I loved it so much when Chloe told Lana...
"Just so you know...I'm not going to let that happen."

lillie_poo_pod

11-10-2007, 05:32 AM

No. Clark needs to save himself from Lana. I just think Chloe is going to help make sure that Clark's judgement of her does not get clouded again.

You know, if this actually sticks and doesn't get forgotten.

joel_welling93

11-10-2007, 06:20 AM

Lana went through a whole lot more than Chloe.... I love Chloe but come on! Doesn't she have a bit of anger towards Lex?? Lana was tormented physically and mentally.... I think that affected her values.... She was really sad when she had a miscarriage only to find out Lex faked her pregnancy? And Chloe is acting like she hasn't had her share of bad experiences with Lex... Lex captured her mom and her after using them for meteor testing.... Wow, I'm surprised why Chloe doesn't want to bring down Lex along with Lois and Lana.... But Lana also has her own share of mistakes... Hey, no one's a Saint!:\

Kal-El Fan

11-10-2007, 06:42 AM

I thought it was great. It is good to see them actually have interesting stories, instead of being Clark's sidekick or +1. Clana needs to die. I don't hate Lana or the Clana relationship, but in terms of moving the mythology forward, they need to break up for good. I think they are moving in that direction, and this way the relationship will have a definite end and they can both move on.

Originally posted by joel_welling93
Lana went through a whole lot more than Chloe.... I love Chloe but come on! Doesn't she have a bit of anger towards Lex?? Lana was tormented physically and mentally.... I think that affected her values.... She was really sad when she had a miscarriage only to find out Lex faked her pregnancy? And Chloe is acting like she hasn't had her share of bad experiences with Lex... Lex captured her mom and her after using them for meteor testing.... Wow, I'm surprised why Chloe doesn't want to bring down Lex along with Lois and Lana.... But Lana also has her own share of mistakes... Hey, no one's a Saint!:\

I agree for the most part. Lana is definitely a product of her history, and it's nice to finally see her character develop in that way.

FULLMETALMARTA

11-10-2007, 06:50 AM

i have to say...the writers have ruined Lana with everything they have had her do over the last few years!

Kal-El Fan

11-10-2007, 06:55 AM

^ True, but at least now those events are being acknowleged/reflected in her personality.

Dew_drops

11-10-2007, 06:59 AM

Im trying to keep biases aside here. I dont mind that Chloe told Lana off - she has every right to protect Clark. I just didn't like the sweet way she was smiling and talking about the undersorld etc. - it didn't suit her good, straighfowars character and it reminded me of Lex. It was a creepy way of threatening her. I really believe she should have just told Lana in a straighfoward way - 'don't hurt clark'. the way she did it - was very un-Chloe-like and her choice of words rubbed me the wrong way. But just IMHO.

Perhaps Smallville was trying to add drama to the series by doing it that way.

curiosity

11-10-2007, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Dew_drops
Im trying to keep biases aside here. I dont mind that Chloe told Lana off - she has every right to protect Clark. I just didn't like the sweet way she was smiling and talking about the undersorld etc. - it didn't suit her good, straighfowars character and it reminded me of Lex. It was a creepy way of threatening her. I really believe she should have just told Lana in a straighfoward way - 'don't hurt clark'. the way she did it - was very un-Chloe-like and her choice of words rubbed me the wrong way. But just IMHO.

Perhaps Smallville was trying to add drama to the series by doing it that way.

I think the way she did it was perfect. IMO, Chloe was shocked and saddened by her friend's actions. She's always taken up for Lana. Last season she pleaded with Clark to save Lana from Lex.

DarkChilde

11-10-2007, 09:08 AM

I was wanting to see the cat fight, hope it happens soon. Maybe there could be mud or Jell-O involved.

Cogito17

11-10-2007, 09:20 AM

I liked the scene, but I felt like Chloe was a little quick to jump on Lana's case given what she knows.

All Chloe really knows is that Lana spied on Lex and that she went after him while potentially acting strange with Clark's powers. Now, in no way is what Lana did right, but I felt like Chloe was quick to take the stance she did with Lana instead of trying to act more as a friend. Lana hasn't really done anything that would do harm Clark directly. If Chloe is worried about Lana's morals/byproducts of her actions causing trouble, its pretty hypocritical considering Chloe took a job at the Daily Planet from Lionel Luthor in exchange for digging up information on Clark. I would think she would be more understanding/forgiving of Lana's situation, the audience knows a bit more, but Chloe only has this once incident to go off of.

Enjoyed the scene, but felt it was a little harsh from Chloe knowing what she knows. Maybe she is just trying to butt Lana out so she can move in. :p

operadiva

11-10-2007, 10:08 AM

Lana needs a beat down and Chloe is just the one to do it..GO CHloe!!

Honey45

11-10-2007, 10:11 AM

Why does Chloe need to "save" Clark?

Clark knows exactly what's going on with Lana. He's a big boy. He doesn't need Chloe telling Lana to treat him right. He can do that himself.

Chloe is just butting in at this point..

operadiva

11-10-2007, 10:14 AM

I will agree with that because I wanted to see Lana beat Clark's ass again and again..Oops..I really enjoyed her insulting him as well...
Oh...well..

freefall

11-10-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by NoSupeForYou
Great point. That's exactly what makes Batman such an interesting character. He doesn't have superpowers like Superman and he struggles and balances on that edge like a normal person. Superman on the other hand has the powers that place him above the average person, so he cannot act like a normal person. It seems like TPTB are trying to make Clark into Batman.

Clark, Batman? He's not even Spider-Man.

Anyway. This Clark currently got more issues than Batman ever has. Except for Miller's Batman, that one is a psychopath.

Dew_drops

11-10-2007, 10:34 AM

operadiva

11-10-2007, 10:38 AM

hey..the girl see an opportunity..who can blame her..Clark is no prize..and i am sure Lana will be the pink doll that he no longer wants..pretty soon..If it is up to Mr.Gough..

which it pretty much is..he can do what ever he wants..

miks

11-10-2007, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Cogito17
I liked the scene, but I felt like Chloe was a little quick to jump on Lana's case given what she knows.

All Chloe really knows is that Lana spied on Lex and that she went after him while potentially acting strange with Clark's powers. Now, in no way is what Lana did right, but I felt like Chloe was quick to take the stance she did with Lana instead of trying to act more as a friend. Lana hasn't really done anything that would do harm Clark directly. If Chloe is worried about Lana's morals/byproducts of her actions causing trouble, its pretty hypocritical considering Chloe took a job at the Daily Planet from Lionel Luthor in exchange for digging up information on Clark. I would think she would be more understanding/forgiving of Lana's situation, the audience knows a bit more, but Chloe only has this once incident to go off of.

Enjoyed the scene, but felt it was a little harsh from Chloe knowing what she knows. Maybe she is just trying to butt Lana out so she can move in. :p

I think Chloe knew plenty to act the way she did, her best friend is dating a chick who would take advantage of the powers given to her, evil advantage, and try and kill someone. Yes he's done both of them harm, but what good is it for her to kill him?! So she can go to jail? She isn't trying to protect Clark, she's trying to get her revenge, and Clark may think he's wanted to do the same thing, but when it comes down to it if given the chance, he wouldn't kill Lex, he'd put his ass in jail somehow, but not kill. So I think Chloe had every right to stand up to Lana. If that was my best friend I probably would have knocked her ass out!

And honestly, I don't think Chloe is butting in, this is her best friend, Chloe and Clark have been best friends long before Lana and Clark really knew each other, they lived next to each other I know but they were aware of each other they had no idea what each others personalities were like, that's clear because Clark has built this perfect image of Lana that hasn't been true since day 1, so Chloe is defending her best friend because she will take Clark's side before she takes Lana's and I think that is a great friend

Mello Penelo

11-10-2007, 12:07 PM

It was watered down and wasted. Chloe could have been talking to a brick wall. Lana didn't care what Chloe had to say. It was too weak.

I was hoping for a b!tch slap fight.

clanafan2

11-10-2007, 12:36 PM

I think Chloe is the type of friend that everyone hopes to have in their lives. She truly represents all the traits you want in a friend. Trusting, caring, understanding, loving, and sticking up for her friend no matter what. I still remember in Splinter of Season 5, Clark was paranoid and thought that Chloe had betrayed him bt telling Lionel his secret. And she told him that I know things haven't been the same between us lately but you know I would never betray you. I'd die before I ever betray you. That was such a touching scene. When Chloe confronted Lana in the end of Wrath, she showed once again that she will always be there for Clark and let Lana know if she betray Clark, Chloe would kick her butt. She made it clear that she wouldn't let that happen because that is what a friend does, she sticks up for her friends. Clark is truly blessed to be surrounded by such a true friend.

ItsAllAboutChloe

11-10-2007, 12:44 PM

Amen to that! Her loyalty amazes me at times, especially when it seems that Clark isn't always there for her. I find that to be a double compliment from someone whose name is "Clanafan" :)

Clarks Blue Eyed Angel

11-10-2007, 01:51 PM

It appears the thread I was posting this in disappeared as I was hitting reply. Curious... anyway, luckily I copied my post, so since this thread is on the same subject, I'll put it here.

Lana strikes me as one of those annoying girls who jumps on whatever train her current boyfriend is conducting. How quickly some seem to forget how she behaved last year, LONG BEFORE Lex ever faked her pregnancy, or married her, or before they even had sex. She was angry with Clark for dumping her, so she turned to Lex, and was quick to take his side in any argument, and tell Clark (and Chloe) that they didn't know Lex like she did. Even though Clark had been close friends with him for years and witnessed his cross to the dark side, and Lana had only begun being interested in him a short while previously. She was mad at Clark, so suddenly Lex, his arch nemesis, could do no wrong.
Remember when she first got wind of 33.1, and Lex denied it? And she said that *if* it was real, she didn't think it would be a bad thing? Because they should be prepared to protect themselves from the freaks and know what they were up against? But as soon as she and Lex broke up, she starts pretending to be a saint who only wants to help those poor people who were victimized by Lex. Let's not even mention the fact that her "selfless" charity was just a front for her Revenge campaigne.

But let's get back to what this thread is about... Chloe's confrontation. Yes, Chloe has been victimized by the Luthors as much as anyone. Are we forgetting that she was kidnapped and experimented on in 33.1? Anyone else remember the huge needle being jabbed into her stomach? Or that Lionel tried to blow her and her dad up?

The difference is that Chloe realizes that if she were to lose herself in a quest for revenge, to be willing to kill Lex to get back at him, or even to see that he never hurt anyone else... that she would be no better than him. Lana has failed to make that insight and has lept full steam ahead into getting what she wants at any cost, even getting blood on her hands. Her obsession with Lex is scarily becoming much like the obsession he had with Clark/meteor freaks/aliens that led to his downfall.

Chloe has often told Clark that he is not a killer, that he is above that. It's clear that Lana is not above it, and I think Chloe is determined to keep Lana's darkness from touching Clark. She knows how Clark feels about her, and she knows what Lana's self-destruction can do to him. He was already trying to put the blame on himself so as not to taint his image of Lana (smartest thing she's ever said). And a guilt-trip like that could seriously screw with his destiny. Lana is a big girl. She's an adult who makes her own choices, and no matter what she may have suffered being married to Lex, she had a choice on how she would come out of that. She chose to stoop to Lex's level, and she's the only one who can be called on to answer for that. Good for Chloe for making sure that Lana's depravity doesn't damage Clark, and good for Clark for having a friend who cares enough about him, and believes in him enough to put herself in the crossfire like that. Clark is not objective when it comes to Lana, so Chloe will be objective for him.

Let me just also say that the thread I was posting this in was about Chloe's confrontation of Lana, and an argument ensued about whether Lana's behavior was justified given what she had gone through being married to Lex. I'm now realizing that this thread is simply about the confrontation and the fact that Chloe is a stand-up friend, so maybe this wasn't the best place for this post. My apologies if it seems out of place or offensive, but like I said, it was in response to what someone else said about Lana being justified and Chloe being wrong to not understand that.

Randy G.

11-10-2007, 01:57 PM

[Mod Note:] Folks, please remember to look past page 1 for an existing thread,
before starting new ones on the exact same subject. I've merged several into this one thread.

Clarks Blue Eyed Angel

11-10-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Randy G.
[Mod Note:] Folks, please remember to look past page 1 for an existing thread,
before starting new ones on the exact same subject. I've merged several into this one thread.

Hi, thanks for moving my post here! I tried posting it to this thread originally, twice, but both times when I hit post it came up saying that the thread I was looking for was nonexistent. I figured someone had said something to get the thread deleted while I was posting.

miks

11-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by clanafan2
I think Chloe is the type of friend that everyone hopes to have in their lives. She truly represents all the traits you want in a friend. Trusting, caring, understanding, loving, and sticking up for her friend no matter what. I still remember in Splinter of Season 5, Clark was paranoid and thought that Chloe had betrayed him bt telling Lionel his secret. And she told him that I know things haven't been the same between us lately but you know I would never betray you. I'd die before I ever betray you. That was such a touching scene. When Chloe confronted Lana in the end of Wrath, she showed once again that she will always be there for Clark and let Lana know if she betray Clark, Chloe would kick her butt. She made it clear that she wouldn't let that happen because that is what a friend does, she sticks up for her friends. Clark is truly blessed to be surrounded by such a true friend.

I love your comment, especially because you're a Clana fan and can see that Chloe is a true friend :)

Dew_drops

11-10-2007, 02:56 PM

miks, I think clana fans agree that Chloe was right to stick up for her friend. She really was. I just personally had a problem with the WAY she did it, but thats just me. I'm glad there are other fans who see it differently because its nice to have diversity. I dont think we should all jump to the conclusion that all clana fans hate chloe and all Chlark fans hate lana. We need to embrace diversity of opinion. *hugs*

Dannyblue1

11-10-2007, 03:02 PM

I think Chloe was being reasonably pleasant with Lana because they are still friends, and Chloe still cares about her. She doesn't want to go in there on full attack mode. But she does want to let Lana know where things stand. And maybe, in her own way, she's hoping what she said will get through to Lana.

Thing is, as much as Clark had his eyes opened to the real Lana in this episode, so did Chloe. Chloe found out Lana was doing things she never thought her capable of just like Clark did. I think Chloe was hoping that Clark would finally have what he'd always wanted (a relationship with Lana), and he'd be happy. Now she finds out Lana could actually hurt Clark, whether she meant to or not.

If I were in Chloe's position, I would've had a little talk with Lana too. And I would've tried to be just as gentle about it.

kris10

11-10-2007, 05:47 PM

Chloe knows that Lana will do anything for Clark notice how she knocked the **** of Lois-which means that anyones is fair game and Lana did try to kick Clarks ass as well and this ******** about it being the powers-yea right. Lana is crazy. Chloe hacks into stuff cus that is her job last time i checked. She doenst friggin spy on people and then gets powers and goes beats the crap out of someone for revenge. Im sorry Lana fans that's how they are writing her.

Originally posted by clanafan2
I think Chloe is the type of friend that everyone hopes to have in their lives. She truly represents all the traits you want in a friend. Trusting, caring, understanding, loving, and sticking up for her friend no matter what. I still remember in Splinter of Season 5, Clark was paranoid and thought that Chloe had betrayed him bt telling Lionel his secret. And she told him that I know things haven't been the same between us lately but you know I would never betray you. I'd die before I ever betray you. That was such a touching scene. When Chloe confronted Lana in the end of Wrath, she showed once again that she will always be there for Clark and let Lana know if she betray Clark, Chloe would kick her butt. She made it clear that she wouldn't let that happen because that is what a friend does, she sticks up for her friends. Clark is truly blessed to be surrounded by such a true friend.

Wow what a post! i know your a clana fan and all but that is awesome. let's hope the Lana gets through this and comes out ok.

LoisJoanneKent

11-10-2007, 06:03 PM

Chloe could kick that shovel-whacking biatch any day of the week!!!

Bigx07

11-10-2007, 06:12 PM

^^^ I totally agree. I liked the way she knocked out lex and those ordeals in progeny it was awesome.

miks

11-10-2007, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by Dew_drops
miks, I think clana fans agree that Chloe was right to stick up for her friend. She really was. I just personally had a problem with the WAY she did it, but thats just me. I'm glad there are other fans who see it differently because its nice to have diversity. I dont think we should all jump to the conclusion that all clana fans hate chloe and all Chlark fans hate lana. We need to embrace diversity of opinion. *hugs*

Yeah you'd think Clana fans would agree, but I've read a lot of posts from other Clana fans and they think Chloe is butting in, and is jealous of Lana. I don't want everyone to side with me, I love discussing things, but that's just silly :D

Cogito17

11-10-2007, 09:24 PM

I agree 100% that Chloe was being a fantastic friend to Clark. But, she is also friends with Lana, to whom she was not as great a friend. She just seemed (to me) a little quick to turn on Lana given that she doesn't know everything about what Lana has done, Chloe's own experiences with the Luthors, her own moral slip-ups, and the fact that she is also supposed to be Lana's friend. Again, she is a great friend to Clark, but as a friend to Lana, I think she was quick to turn given her own experiences and the circumstances. I thought she would be a little more compassionate and look to help Lana before sort of taking that aggressive stance. Maybe she and Lana just weren't as close as they seemed.

red_cape_7

11-10-2007, 09:30 PM

i think her and lana were plenty close (not as much in recent times but still friends), but chloe recognizes that clark is more important to the world than any friendship she has with other people. it's gotta be hard for chloe to choose sides, but she's willing to lose her friendship with lana to protect clark. it seems selfless, whereas lana seems to be selfish.

Bigx07

11-11-2007, 01:19 PM

Chloe was just being a friend. If Laqna doesnt watch out something bad is going to happen to her.

anisette

11-11-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Cogito17
I agree 100% that Chloe was being a fantastic friend to Clark. But, she is also friends with Lana, to whom she was not as great a friend. She just seemed (to me) a little quick to turn on Lana given that she doesn't know everything about what Lana has done, Chloe's own experiences with the Luthors, her own moral slip-ups, and the fact that she is also supposed to be Lana's friend. Again, she is a great friend to Clark, but as a friend to Lana, I think she was quick to turn given her own experiences and the circumstances. I thought she would be a little more compassionate and look to help Lana before sort of taking that aggressive stance. Maybe she and Lana just weren't as close as they seemed.

While she did have her own problems with the Luthors, Chloe never spied on them, nor did she kidnap them, nor did she try to kill them. That's the difference between Chloe and Lana. Chloe tried to get out of her problems without hurting anyone, whereas Lana wanted to get out at the expense of another person's life.

Plus, Lana's already gotten out of her problems. She's with Clark. Lionel wasn't bothering her, and Lex was out of her life. The only reason she did it was for revenge. Chloe wouldn't do something like that.

Overall, I think it has to do with choosing between Clark and Lana and everyone knows, Clark would always come first in Chloe's life, no matter what.

xrayvision

11-11-2007, 03:16 PM

I think it will turn out that Labyrinth will be proven to be an episode that in a way parallels Lexmas. Lexmas was about Lex and his path that he would choose in life and we saw one result if Lex remained good and got to see what happened when Lex took the path he did in Phantom when he lost Lana. Labyrinth showed Lana to be Clark's dead end who would cause him to have been completely taken over by the Dr. Hudson phantom. In that episode Chloe died and Clark's subconcious realized that Lana was holding him back. Unlike Lex, Clark will follow the right path and may later be proven that his subconcious was right and Lana is a dead end for him & possesses none of the ideals he thought she did.

rej@ne

11-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Lana really sucks and Chloe? she´s awesome!! so, of course Chloe will win any fight against Lana... besides Chloe is not evil like Lana! oh comme on... We saw what Lana is capeble of... Lex and Lionel are right about her. She´s a Luthor now!! just evil as ant of them

anisette

11-11-2007, 04:34 PM

dude... you're just now watching Labyrinth? Wow... that was shown a long time ago in the us. I agree, it was a lot like Lexmas, showing Clark an alternate reality, but I don't think it has as much of an effect like Lexmas did.

xrayvision

11-11-2007, 04:37 PM

No. I saw that last year when it was shown. I was just making a comparison. I think the difference is that Lex will not admit that it would have been better to lead the type of life his mother showed him in Lexmas whereas Clark after remembering the Labyrinth dream would think about it and see the mistakes he made of not realizing what Lana was all about. Not that they would ever show him doing that onscreen, but it would be in his character to do that.

Khyla

11-11-2007, 10:21 PM

I'm so happy that CHloe is finally DONE with giving Lana the benefit of the doubt all the time!

Now she just has to convince Clark of it. (but she's gonna have to be very gentle and delicate about it, and make sure Clark realizes she doesn't have any ulterior motives or plans to benefit from it in any way)

Angelina2809

11-12-2007, 06:22 AM

Both are really good in a fight but I think Lana would win!

owensj1

11-12-2007, 01:38 PM

Lana would win because she is more likely to cheat.

xaosthry

11-12-2007, 02:17 PM

Good point

Welling_is_pretty

11-12-2007, 04:17 PM

Oh Shelby would so kick both their asses!

But, in all seriousness, I think Lana would win because she has the marital arts skills she was taught a while back and would also fight dirty, as Lex taught her too.

Chloe's expertise is computers and Clark.

Lana wins! (unless she fights Shelby, in which case Shelby wins!)

Serynarpc

11-13-2007, 02:13 AM

I'm going with my girl Chloe. Throughout this season while Lana has gotten guilty thrill after guilty thrill, Chloe has gotten crapped on in the worst way.

The best place to funnel all that pent up aggravation is at lil' Pefect Pink Princess Lana and her manipulations of Clark. We've all seen how Chloe handles threats to Clark- very personally.

All that plotty back up- and the fact that Lana could be defeated by the daunting task of eating a sandwich.

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think it will turn out that Labyrinth will be proven to be an episode that in a way parallels Lexmas. Lexmas was about Lex and his path that he would choose in life and we saw one result if Lex remained good and got to see what happened when Lex took the path he did in Phantom when he lost Lana. Labyrinth showed Lana to be Clark's dead end who would cause him to have been completely taken over by the Dr. Hudson phantom. In that episode Chloe died and Clark's subconcious realized that Lana was holding him back. Unlike Lex, Clark will follow the right path and may later be proven that his subconcious was right and Lana is a dead end for him & possesses none of the ideals he thought she did.

*Blink*

That is so - deep. More than that, its right.

kp1984

11-13-2007, 04:37 PM

Why could'nt any of them take Ian out, I mean he was a wuss.

Kalyxx

11-13-2007, 06:39 PM

Someone please explain the Chloe facination.

To me she is a pest , clinging on to whatever will keep next to Clark.

It is partly Clark's fault becuase he lets her do it.

What made her think she had to confront Lana about hurting Clark.

Does she still think she will have a chance with Clark?

Please just explain don't get rude.

xrayvision

11-13-2007, 08:25 PM

She confronted Lana because she is legitimately Clark's friend as she has always been, even before she ever tried to hook up with him. She as the viewers (me anyway) can see Lana's evil and does not want Clark to pay for it. Her own cousin was attacked by Lana as well as Clark, the person Lana is supposedly doing all her crazy sh*t for. She was jealous in the past, but this has nothing to do with that. She would have to be blind to not realize that Lana is currently a very bad person. She knows Lana was the one who always complained about keeping secrets and now knows there was a reason for Lana not telling Clark about Isis. She saw the evidence with all those monitors in that room.

She knows that Lana is after Lex and that she is living with Clark. She, like me, has a problem with someone living with Clark continuously provoking Lex (who is currently leaving her alone) up to the point where he will lash out and not only attack Lana but Clark as well.

litew8

11-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Chloe has room to talk. Given her reputation through the series, she has every right to take offensive measure for the 'good side'. Lana now represents the 'bad side'. She also knows more about Clark than Lana does. Lana doesn't deserve anything. She has to earn the respect - Chloe is just putting her in her place.

CLanaF23

11-13-2007, 08:44 PM

yea Chloe needs to back off and stop playin cop..cause lana is loyal to clark and chloe just wants clark to love her like he loves lana but he doesnt and wont soo she needs to fall back on lana

xrayvision

11-13-2007, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Kalyxx
Someone please explain the Chloe facination.

To me she is a pest , clinging on to whatever will keep next to Clark.

It is partly Clark's fault becuase he lets her do it.

What made her think she had to confront Lana about hurting Clark.

Does she still think she will have a chance with Clark?

Please just explain don't get rude.

Here is a great post that sums up everything:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3443664#post3443664

Originally posted by CLanaF23
yea Chloe needs to back off and stop playin cop..cause lana is loyal to clark and chloe just wants clark to love her like he loves lana but he doesnt and wont soo she needs to fall back on lana

You're forgetting 2 things:

1. Lana attacked Clark in Wrath. Is this a sign of loyalty to him? Lana does not know what's best for Clark. She has no right to decide if someone should live or die because she thinks they are dangerous to him. She has barely known his secret and there are still plenty of things about him she doesn't know. Lana being justified to try to kill Lex is just as absurd as Clark trying to kill anyone who has gone after Lana in the past. The Lana of yesteryear would not want Clark going around committing attempted murder on Tina Greer, Greg Arkin, Ian Randall, etc. That would have made Clark a criminal and the same applies to Lana if she tries it.

2. Even if she continues doing what she thinks will protect Clark, she is provoking Lex and that is very dangerous considering she lives with Clark now. Clark will be put in danger just by association with Lana. She is not thinking about the consequences and how she is a liability to him and his secret.

ClarksGal

11-13-2007, 09:55 PM

Chloe is the best friend that Clark has ever had. She is almost family at this point. I could see JL doing that for Clark. I coudl see Clark doing the same thing for her. She wasn't malicious...she was honest. Just like she was for Lana when Lex started up with her.

Clark is a very special person. Chloe is protecting him, in the only way she probably can. I thought it was awesome of her.

Serynarpc

11-13-2007, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by CLanaF23
yea Chloe needs to back off and stop playin cop..cause lana is loyal to clark and chloe just wants clark to love her like he loves lana but he doesnt and wont soo she needs to fall back on lana

Chloe is not the Morality Police. She is Clark's compass. Through out the years, she has shown Clark the best in humanity- its unconditional love and trust (see episodes 'Justice', 'Zod' 'Promise' 'Labyrinth' and this episode. Even when Chloe herself gets flak for telling Clark when he's taking the easy way out (As she was Clana's advocate in 'Promise' when she thought Clark was too afraid to apply himself) which means she's the one who is Clark's side. Not on Clark's side, but is it.

If anyone - Brainiac, Lex, Lana- tries to harm Clark, Chloe's there to knock them upside the head and remind them while Clark has that farmboy charm we love, Chloe is at his side and she's no fool.