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Dpyro
11-06-2007, 07:29 AM
well we already heard his motive saying that as long as i live you will suffer to hiro killing someones father is very sufferable... but one thing i dont understand is that if he did push him off the building and got back up and ran off how come the detectives didnt find two traces of blood kaito and adam's
Sweetie
11-06-2007, 08:01 AM
Good question...
Didn't he fell on Kaito Nakamura?I guess Hiro's father absorbed the schock of the fall for him.Adam didn't bleed at all.
closetclana
11-06-2007, 08:19 AM
I'm not convinced that the hooded man was Adam. Kaito said right before he was killed something like "Of all the people I would have never thought it would be you." Figuring Adam was being held by the company because he was dangerous, he would be an obvious choice as the killer. Kaito was surprized by who it was (undoubtably one of Adam's minions who has not yet reveiled himself).
slayer
11-06-2007, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by closetclana
I'm not convinced that the hooded man was Adam. Kaito said right before he was killed something like "Of all the people I would have never thought it would be you." Figuring Adam was being held by the company because he was dangerous, he would be an obvious choice as the killer. Kaito was surprized by who it was (undoubtably one of Adam's minions who has not yet reveiled himself).
hmm, this is true. but i still think it's adam :lol:
pycer
11-06-2007, 08:24 AM
Or he was shocked because Adam was supposed to be locked far away...but your theory is certainly possible.
As far as no blood from Adam, I am starting to think his powers are a little different than claires. If you note when Peter zapped him, the scorching on his hand went away almost immediately. I don't recall seeing Claire regenerate that quickly before.
Sweetie
11-06-2007, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by pycer
Or he was shocked because Adam was supposed to be locked far away...but your theory is certainly possible.
As far as no blood from Adam, I am starting to think his powers are a little different than claires. If you note when Peter zapped him, the scorching on his hand went away almost immediately. I don't recall seeing Claire regenerate that quickly before.
Yes,Claire can regenerated that quickly.Remember last season with the exploding man at her house.She could go near him and could immediatly regenarated while when he was exploding.
pycer
11-06-2007, 08:39 AM
Did ya not see her when she came out? She was burned almost down to the bone and it took a little while for her to regen from that.
Sweetie
11-06-2007, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by pycer
Did ya not see her when she came out? She was burned almost down to the bone and it took a little while for her to regen from that.
That was the same among of time that she healed too.Peter burned Adam just once,he had time to heal quickly.But,the guy kept exploding infront of her and she kept regenerated at the same rate.
Remember that Adam is like 400 years old and Claire is 17...I think Claire will be exactly like him.
vinslikewhoa
11-06-2007, 10:32 AM
so wait, is adam one of the original 12? because didnt we see everyones face in the photo, besides mr petrellis?
zAndrew
11-06-2007, 11:28 AM
I have a feeling that it was Adam that knocked Kaito off the roof.
Bob said Adam was a "visionary" so maybe Kaito didnt think Adam would go as far as to kill the original group.
HOWEVER, if it was a follower of Adam that did it, maybe it was the one who can turn into something like a COCKROACH??
Afterall, we still don't know the mystery behind the cockroach
its possible.......
Mello Penelo
11-06-2007, 11:30 AM
The cockroach isn't a mystery. It was well-established the cockroach is the pinnacle of evolution because it can survive without a head, not eat for a year and can live through an ice age and a nuclear winter.
The show is about evolution. That's why the cockroach keeps appearing.
zAndrew
11-06-2007, 11:40 AM
So nothing is stopping a cockroach from a 30 story fall off the Devoux building...prolly didnt spell that right
It could be a power, or something else
With this show, anything seems as likely as it is unlikely
STFanatic
11-06-2007, 12:43 PM
Adam did bleed quite profusely when the arrows pierced him.
Zeth Duuron
11-06-2007, 01:32 PM
I'm hoping I'm not being spoilerific, but after last night's episode, seeing as how they're apparently in cohoots, why wouldn't people think Adam put Peter up to it?
Seeing how powerful Parkman's Dad is.... My guess is the person that killed Kaito isn't anyone but Parkman's dad using his powers. If Ando was there he probably would have not seen the image like how Suresh didn't see who Niki was talking to.
flying_girl
11-06-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Zeth Duuron
I'm hoping I'm not being spoilerific, but after last night's episode, seeing as how they're apparently in cohoots, why wouldn't people think Adam put Peter up to it?
you mean could peter of killed kaito? no, he was in ireland w/o and memory at the time that kaito was killed
Dpyro
11-06-2007, 09:57 PM
yeah it wouldnt make anysense to the plot anyway
Yggdrasill
11-07-2007, 01:23 AM
The hooded man disappeared, so it's possible he had the ability to fly. Maybe it was West? :O
S. T. Scorpion
11-07-2007, 04:54 AM
Always three there are - when it comes to murder suspects. Then we narrow it down to one.
I don't think it was Adam because of the lack of a body/blood, and just doesn't seem his style. And why would he encourage the group to get together in the 1st place only to kill them all off one by one? I think he is the visionary because Peter (unseen as yet, time travel???) or Hiro gave him information regarding the future at some point in the past regarding the group and/or the (Legacy) virus.
West is in the frame - if he is Adam's relative/protege as people beleive.
Peter - can fly/teleport, but then why just a push off of the ledge, with all his other powers which takes us back to West...
Or even Hiro - Kaito's shock - the fact that there was a hood concealing his identity from Ando, and the prophecy that Kinsei would have to slay the dragon that taught him the way of the sword. (that could be interpreted as ripping his own heart out).
Your thoughts please.
pycer
11-07-2007, 08:59 AM
They said why Kensei would have motive, Bob said they locked him up and threw away the key...for a very long time...revenge is as powerful a motive as one can get, plus we saw 400 yrs ago that Kensei aint quite sane to begin with. Couple that with 400 yrs of anger and hate, plus being locked away for a long time by those you thought you trusted...and you get one messed up old dude.
shadow4486
11-07-2007, 09:07 AM
I mentioned this in another post. Claire and Adam have the same power but Adam, having lived with it for 400+ years, has evolved it to rapid healing and immortality. It's just like Matt's dad's powers evolving to where he can control everything the mind can do.
So it could have been Adam as the hooded man because he could heal fast enough to not bleed at all, or even be hurt by the fall.
Zeth Duuron
11-07-2007, 12:13 PM
I bow down to S. T. Scorpion. Hiro being Kaito's murderer is something I have never thought of. Not to say I believe it, but boy, that would seriously be a curve ball. About my Peter theory, I was kinda thinking somebody was controlling Peter to do whatever led up to us finding him in a shipping container. Four Months Ago is definitely the key...
hansioux
11-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by flying_girl
you mean could peter of killed kaito? no, he was in ireland w/o and memory at the time that kaito was killed
uh... he can travel through time? I don't think that's a problem. He can come from the future and kill Kaito. If Peter believes that the company is evil, and told Kaito is the head of the company, he could very possibly try to kill Kaito.
Maybe Peter'd ask "but why do i have to kill Kaito in the past?"
Than answers Adam, because that's the only way to stop the virus to spread, you must kill Kaito before he releases the virus.
Barogrei
11-07-2007, 12:42 PM
This brings in to question, how potent actually is Hiro's power to change the past. Hiro has expressed the belief that his ability to change the past is actually quite limited, and that many important events are fixed. For Peter to be able to go back in time and kill Kaito Nakamura, the power he absorbed from Hiro would have to be capable of actually changing the past in this significant a way. If Hiro can't change the past (which I actually believe he can), than Petter cannot.
PatientZero218
11-07-2007, 08:51 PM
I still think it is Adam, because what he said to Hiro about making him suffer, Because you would think the first one to die would be Hiro's dad if it was Adam, because he knows Hiro's dad has a power because he is part of the group and he would make the connection and everything like Hiro actually being from the future, so killing his father personally and not having Murry doing it would make Hiro suffer indeed, and when Hiro starts his adventure to find the man who killed his father Adam can make him suffer more by basically saying I told you I'de make you suffer.
But i do have to say that the West theory is pretty convincing.
henrik01
11-07-2007, 10:18 PM
The latest Beeman blog said that it was Adam. He was even then played by David Anders.
S. T. Scorpion
11-08-2007, 07:35 AM
Dang. My money would have been on Peter.
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