can they please give chloe something to do!? [Archive]

Jory

11-01-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by red_cape_7
first, chloe was getting crapped on. now, she's just playing a part in someone else's storyline (e.g., researching for clark). she really needs some more arc to her story right now. i love her character and hate to see her get pushed to the backburner! :(

Couldn't agree more.

I thought TPTB were going to explore her power, what it is, if it can be controlled etc, but with Kara on the show I guess they decided not to. It's pretty idiotic to introduce something and not explore it. They should never have given her powers if nothings going to come of it.

What happened to Chloe's interview in "Action"?They introduced that and never followed through.

Now you have Jimmy (who obviously was never that much in love with her) eyeing kara when he was still with Chloe, and now is in love with Kara. Guess he didn't have too deep of feelings for Chloe since he got over her fast.

TPTB have to make sure they make it be known that Chloe is,not only, ugly but also undesireable (Jimmy's "whoa" after Kara kissed him), in their opinions.

Is it any wonder that Allison is ,probably, leaving after the season is over? TPTB must feel that she is also ugly and undesireable, if they are trying to say that about the character she plays. Jerks.

I'm really getting tired of them kicking Chloe while she's down.

red_cape_7

11-01-2007, 10:49 PM

Totally the Kara show. Chloe's just gonna hang out and cry about it. She needs her own mission.

harryandginnyfanatic

11-01-2007, 10:52 PM

Her arc is her power. And unfortunately her inability to be honest with Jimmy about her power is the reason for the Chloe/Jimmy/Kara triangle this season.

Coyote

11-01-2007, 10:55 PM

Chloe is going to be Psycho Lana's new girlfriend. That would be hot.

Atomic girl

11-01-2007, 10:56 PM

I thought the whole ISIS foundation discovery was the start of a story arc for her. I guess we'll see. Even though Lana told her not to say anything to Clark, I believe she'll still do research....

xrayvision

11-01-2007, 10:58 PM

Chloe is probably going to be involved with the Lana Lang plot. She's already onto her. Though Lois is also onto Lana.

red_cape_7

11-01-2007, 10:58 PM

TPTB are slow moving on the Kryptonite power arc. ISIS foundation investigation would definitely be good for her.

Jory

11-01-2007, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
Her arc is her power. And unfortunately her inability to be honest with Jimmy about her power is the reason for the Chloe/Jimmy/Kara triangle this season.

What power arc? They haven't dealt with it. What is her power, can the power be controlled, will it manifest in a way other than tears, will she die/ be incapacitated every time she uses it? Tptb aren't exploring it,nobody seems to know anything about it. Are they ever going to use it again? Why introduce something if it's not going to be delved into?

As for the Chloe/Jimmy/Kara "triangle". That (imo) was introduced so that everyone will "know" how ugly and undesireable Chloe is, in TPTB's minds. After all, Al did say it would be hard for Jimmy to walk away from Kara. To translate that: It's easy for Jimmy to walk away from Chloe because she's "ugly",but Kara's just oh so hot.

Mello Penelo

11-01-2007, 11:10 PM

I'm not trying to boot Chloe off the show because she's one of the very few redeeming elements, but she's pretty much run her course.

It was obvious TPTB had nothing else in mind for her when they made her a freak. She needs to go somewhere where she can be appreciated. She needs to move to Gotham and live her life.

LexLuv180

11-01-2007, 11:10 PM

I wish they'd explore her power more, too.

Jory

11-01-2007, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I'm not trying to boot Chloe off the show because she's one of the very few redeeming elements, but she's pretty much run her course.

It was obvious TPTB had nothing else in mind for her when they made her a freak. She needs to go somewhere where she can be appreciated. She needs to move to Gotham and live her life.

Well, this is Allison's (possibly)last season on the show (according to those in the know), so you'll get your wish. It would've been nice if she had a better send off, instead of the usual "Chloe is ugly blah blah" standard. Jerks.

citizenlen

11-01-2007, 11:27 PM

I hope Chloe tells Lana about her powers and both will become partners in the Isis Foundation. Then they'll team up to bring down LuthorCorp and help other meteor infected incl. her mom.

Both can recruit and provide a haven for the meteor infected. I think this will be a good arc for both.

Delovely

11-01-2007, 11:29 PM

Hasn't Chloe always been 'researching for Clark'?

Come on.

She's a plot device. That's all.

And when she joins the 'JLA' she'll be 'researching' for them as well.

chantal

11-01-2007, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Jory
What power arc? They haven't dealt with it. What is her power, can the power be controlled, will it manifest in a way other than tears, will she die/ be incapacitated every time she uses it? Tptb aren't exploring it,nobody seems to know anything about it. Are they ever going to use it again? Why introduce something if it's not going to be delved into?

As for the Chloe/Jimmy/Kara "triangle". That (imo) was introduced so that everyone will "know" how ugly and undesireable Chloe is, in TPTB's minds. After all, Al did say it would be hard for Jimmy to walk away from Kara. To translate that: It's easy for Jimmy to walk away from Chloe because she's "ugly",but Kara's just oh so hot.

You know, they have had a lot of other stuff to deal with! They touched on it in Cure, and again tonight. Chloe wasn't at ISIS for research, she was there to get help, until she saw Lana and had to cover up. Don't want to give away spoilers, but people are always getting injured/near death in Smallville! That's why they have a permanent hospital set. So Chloe's ability will get put to use at some point in the future. It's just a question of whom she will cry over.

Did you notice how Jimmy is becoming Kara's Chloe? And Chloe knows how dangerous that role can be! But since Jimmy doesn't know, he will think Chloe is just jealous and spiteful. Thus a triangle even though Chloe doesn't want Jimmy back.

citizenlen

11-01-2007, 11:47 PM

Not only does Chloe knows how dangerous it can be, but with how Clark lied to Lana all those years while confessing his love will probably be the same way with Jimmy and Kara. Chloe doesn't want to see Jimmy hurt physically and emotionally. For once, Chloe has a friend in Jimmy and he isn't high maintenance like Clark. I guess there's a sense of normalcy with him.

But they're moving her away from him and eventually from Clark so that it will be close to the mythos.

Yep, Chloe was definitely there for help and I'm sure Lana will find out and both will tag team on Lex.

D.M.A.

11-01-2007, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
Chloe is probably going to be involved with the Lana Lang plot. She's already onto her. Though Lois is also onto Lana.
I dont think lois is onto lana,maybe lex but not lana...As for chloe probably bein tied into lana I think so,atleast for the next epi or 2.The more we find out about ISIS I think we will

Originally posted by chantal
You know, they have had a lot of other stuff to deal with! They touched on it in Cure, and again tonight. Chloe wasn't at ISIS for research, she was there to get help, until she saw Lana and had to cover up. Don't want to give away spoilers, but people are always getting injured/near death in Smallville! That's why they have a permanent hospital set. So Chloe's ability will get put to use at some point in the future. It's just a question of whom she will cry over.

Did you notice how Jimmy is becoming Kara's Chloe? And Chloe knows how dangerous that role can be! But since Jimmy doesn't know, he will think Chloe is just jealous and spiteful. Thus a triangle even though Chloe doesn't want Jimmy back.
I didnt even think of that but ur right,jimmy is sort of becomin kara's chloe.They seem to be paired off alot,and in jimmy's mind he'll have these 2 girls after him when that doesnt seem like the case.As for her gettin help I agree,instead of a cure this time she was goin to do research on the foundation to see how they help.We kno only Knox has the cure,so she's obviously jus lookin for help instead of gettin rid of the power.So I can see chloe doin more research and possibly stumblin on what lana is really up 2 soon

Originally posted by citizenlen
Not only does Chloe knows how dangerous it can be, but with how Clark lied to Lana all those years while confessing his love will probably be the same way with Jimmy and Kara. Chloe doesn't want to see Jimmy hurt physically and emotionally. For once, Chloe has a friend in Jimmy and he isn't high maintenance like Clark. I guess there's a sense of normalcy with him.

But they're moving her away from him and eventually from Clark so that it will be close to the mythos.

Yep, Chloe was definitely there for help and I'm sure Lana will find out and both will tag team on Lex.
I doubt they tag to go against lex,since chloe prob wont agree wit lana's methods.Lana is out for revenge not justice unlike chloe,so tho the idea may sound good I doubt it'll happen

Kriminal

11-02-2007, 12:22 AM

citizenlen

11-02-2007, 12:38 AM

I'm hoping with the upcoming episodes that Lana will eventually let go of what Lex did but continue in her new found venture with the Isis Foundation. And if the writers are smart (heckles), they'll have Chloe and Lana run Isis. Helping those affected by the meteor while exposing Lex. Chloe can run the Isis Gazette. She can have her column like The Torch, but this time its a self-help newspaper or magazine that discusses the lives affected and bring understanding to their condition. The newspaper will also expose government cover up and Isis can provide witness protection and anonymity and maybe Oliver Queen can be their main funder. Hey, I can dream can't I?:)

litew8

11-02-2007, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by LexLuv180
I wish they'd explore her power more, too. I made an avatar for their reminder - in case they forget.

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 01:46 AM

Yeah, I wanted to see Chloe's headline about frozen corn princess... and I wanted to see Chloe interview the star of the Warrior Angel TV show. *sigh*

Maybe there will be a spin off of Smallville called Offscreenville. What else would be in Offscreenville? Chloe's first support group meeting at the Isis Foundation? Hmm... I have a feeling she won't be joining now that she knows Lana is heading it up.

Ah well...

Yeah... I still don't get Chloe's power... they need to explain it.

Demne

11-02-2007, 02:40 AM

Lara should get cloned, and kill Chloe. Then, after she dies.. Lara clones Alicia back and Clark dumps Lana and Marrys Alicia.. great ending to the show.. He flys off with Alicia in his arms in Las Vegas!

harryandginnyfanatic

11-02-2007, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by Jory
Is it any wonder that Allison is ,probably, leaving after the season is over? TPTB must feel that she is also ugly and undesireable, if they are trying to say that about the character she plays. Jerks.

Originally posted by Jory
To translate that: It's easy for Jimmy to walk away from Chloe because she's "ugly",but Kara's just oh so hot.

Jory, where would you get this idea from?

Chloe is not ugly. And TPTB certainly don't think she's ugly either.

litew8

11-02-2007, 03:12 AM

yOU're starting to make my avatar cry. :lol:
harryandginnyfanatic is right. Chloe isn't ugly. She's a hottie.

TheANIMAL (marcus)

11-02-2007, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by LexLuv180
I wish they'd explore her power more, too.

I wish i could explore Chloe.

CallMeClark

11-02-2007, 04:43 AM

Chloe is taking a backseat right now due to the intro of Kara and her issues. I'm sure we'll have plenty of her after we explore some of the mythos.

savingpeoplething

11-02-2007, 06:07 AM

I'm actually pretty pumped about Chloe learning about what the heck Lana is doing (which I'm pretty sure is not good).

Jory

11-02-2007, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
Jory, where would you get this idea from?

Chloe is not ugly. And TPTB certainly don't think she's ugly either.

Based on Al's comments.

During season 2 Al made a comment about people not forgiving Lana because she's so beautiful, yet they forgive Chloe. Then all you ever hear from Al and Miles are how beautiful Kristin, Erica , and Laura are. Then Al did a recent interview (I think with a comic website) where he said it would be hard for Jimmy to walk away from Kara.

To me Al's comments mean, 1) People forgive Chloe because she's ugly. 2) Allison is ugly. 3) Jimmy can easily walk away from Chloe, because she's ugly, but he can't walk away from Kara because she's "hot".

Add to this Jimmy says "whoa" after Kara kisses him and the fact that he got over Chloe so quickly, come on it's pretty obvious TPTB are going out of their way to imply that Chloe's a nothing. I doubt it'll get any better the rest of the season.

What's funny is that Kara's going to be lying to Jimmy, yet since she's "hot", Jimmy will look the other way.

As a Chimmy fan, I'm very disappointed. I thought they both cared for each other, but this episode proved (imo) that it was Chloe whio had the most emotional invovlment in the relationship, and it was Jimmy that didn't.

I think the treatment of Chloe (and Allison) stinks, especially if this is her last season. What a "nice" send off she's getting.

jimmyolsenblues

11-02-2007, 07:48 AM

The writers have shown Chloe to be a very sympathetic character that constants gets the short end of the stick.
Everything she tries blows up in her face.
I like Chloe a lot , she a great friend to Clark.
But for 7 seasons she is the writer's punching bag, its getting old.
If the writers don't want chloe to be happy , productive , enjoying her job. Fine.
But I would rather see chloe happy.
Chloe's plot like is more like a tragedy than winner. And that is unfortunate.

LoveHurts38

11-02-2007, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by Jory
Well, this is Allison's (possibly)last season on the show (according to those in the know), so you'll get your wish. It would've been nice if she had a better send off, instead of the usual "Chloe is ugly blah blah" standard. Jerks.

Please don't say AM is ugly because her physical self is playing Chloe she is not here to defend herself.....Love U AM you do a great job in your acting!!

Minela

11-02-2007, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by citizenlen
I hope Chloe tells Lana about her powers and both will become partners in the Isis Foundation. Then they'll team up to bring down LuthorCorp and help other meteor infected incl. her mom.

Both can recruit and provide a haven for the meteor infected. I think this will be a good arc for both.

Have you been paying attantion? Lana is disturbed. The ISIS foundation is her own little crusade against Lex. Why would Chloe be involved in that? Plus Chloe is onto Lana, she knows there is something shady going on. Did you notice how disturbed Chloe looked after Lana gave her the "nice-philantrophy-girl" smile and fed her the lies. Divorce settlement? Right. Try Embezlement. "Oh, and don't tell Clark about this", coming from the Queen of secrets and lies.

No. Chloe does not need to be involved in that arc, unless it is to expose Lana the new villain.

Plus. I don't know what the problem is here with Chloe's arc? They mention her ability in every episode, it is not being put on the back burner. I'm glad they aren't rushing through it. She is not a FOTW. First they need to deal with her emotional difficultie with the power and how if affects her relationships. Than they will tap into the possibilities for her power. Just give it time.

As far as the Chimmara triangle goes, I see no evidence TPTB think Chloe is "ugly" or "undesirable". It is just mythos that Jimmy and Kara have a thing for eachother. TPTB love triangles. Just because Chimmy is over for now, doesn't mean they won't bring it back. It was completley obvious that Jimmy was head over heals in love with Chloe.

Jory

11-02-2007, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Minela
Have you been paying attantion? Lana is disturbed. The ISIS foundation is her own little crusade against Lex. Why would Chloe be involved in that? Plus Chloe is onto Lana, she knows there is something shady going on. Did you notice how disturbed Chloe looked after Lana gave her the "nice-philantrophy-girl" smile and fed her the lies. Divorce settlement? Right. Try Embezlement. "Oh, and don't tell Clark about this", coming from the Queen of secrets and lies.

No. Chloe does not need to be involved in that arc, unless it is to expose Lana the new villain.

Plus. I don't know what the problem is here with Chloe's arc? They mention her ability in every episode, it is not being put on the back burner. I'm glad they aren't rushing through it. She is not a FOTW. First they need to deal with her emotional difficultie with the power and how if affects her relationships. Than they will tap into the possibilities for her power. Just give it time.

As far as the Chimmara triangle goes, I see no evidence TPTB think Chloe is "ugly" or "undesirable". It is just mythos that Jimmy and Kara have a thing for eachother. TPTB love triangles. Just because Chimmy is over for now, doesn't mean they won't bring it back. It was completley obvious that Jimmy was head over heals in love with Chloe.

I doubt they will delve into Chloe's power, with Kara , and some more superheroes showing up.

If Jimmy was head over heels in love with Chloe, he certainly got over her fast. He couldn't have been too in love with her, imo.

J

friday

11-02-2007, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Minela
Have you been paying attantion? Lana is disturbed.

That's according to Lionel in the trailer for Wrath. And if you take the time to analyze the lengths Lionel went to protect Clark last season, I would say he's also disturbed. Making Lana marry Lex while knowing that he drugged Lana to believe she was pregnant all in the name of protecting Clark is disturbing.

Lex called Lois a "muffin peddler". Does Lex calling her that make it true? ;)

ShelbyKent

11-02-2007, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
The writers have shown Chloe to be a very sympathetic character that constants gets the short end of the stick.
Everything she tries blows up in her face.
I like Chloe a lot , she a great friend to Clark.
But for 7 seasons she is the writer's punching bag, its getting old.
If the writers don't want chloe to be happy , productive , enjoying her job. Fine.
But I would rather see chloe happy.
Chloe's plot like is more like a tragedy than winner. And that is unfortunate.

If you replace all the "Chloe" with the name "Clark", your paragraph sort of works, too. Especially the tragedy part :/

*goes to read about Operation Save Clark Kent*

That's according to Lionel in the trailer for Wrath. And if you take the time to analyze the lengths Lionel went to protect Clark last season, I would say he's also disturbed. Making Lana marry Lex while knowing that he drugged Lana to believe she was pregnant all in the name of protecting Clark is disturbing. It takes one to know one, I guess

Jaded Wolf

11-02-2007, 08:32 AM

Rhoda123

11-02-2007, 09:43 AM

Chloe's a fighter and a survivor.. this thing with Jimmy and Kara took her by surprise but its okay. She'll recover and be stronger than ever. I do agree that TPTB need to use her as more than a Clark search engine.. Clark just uses her and she doesn't call him on it. I'm ready for her to call him on it.. she needs to stand up and be like, "Look alien boy, do it yourself.." I love Clark but he isn't always the smartest stack of hay, if you get my drift..

I'm looking forward to the JL coming back. I think they'll use Chloe more then.. at least they should.. what a big mistake if they don't.

Demne

11-02-2007, 10:18 AM

Lol, my favorite part of that episode last night was when Jimmy left with Kara and Chloe had that sad little face like she was going to cry. LOVED IT! Good! She deserves it for what she did to him anyways.

Jory

11-02-2007, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Demne
Lol, my favorite part of that episode last night was when Jimmy left with Kara and Chloe had that sad little face like she was going to cry. LOVED IT! Good! She deserves it for what she did to him anyways.

What was obvious to me, was that Jimmy didn't love Chloe at all. So your glee is misplaced. Jimmy wasn't invested in the relationship to feel upset, since (not only) did he get over Chloe fast, he was also checking Kara out in "Kara" and "Cure". That doesn't sound like Jimmy cared for Chloe, if he ever did.

What I think is funny is that Kara's going to be lying to Jimmy, and running out on him too. Wonder if he'll break up with her and say their relationship was a "fluke"?

Demne

11-02-2007, 11:15 AM

He didn't get over her fast, she spent 2 months treating him worse and worse till he finally said enough! I would too and find someone who appreciates what you do for them. Chloe did nothing for Jimmy, and Jimmy did everything for Chloe. Good for Jimmy for trying it out with Kara. '

Not to mention, Kara is really hot and just because Jimmy was kinda put off guard by her in the beginning, he still pressed that Chloe was his girl until she gave him the door to walk out of. Jimmy should be doing exactly what he is doing, moving on and finding someone new. He should not be pining over Chloe when it was her fault.

Jory

11-02-2007, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Demne
He didn't get over her fast, she spent 2 months treating him worse and worse till he finally said enough! I would too and find someone who appreciates what you do for them. Chloe did nothing for Jimmy, and Jimmy did everything for Chloe. Good for Jimmy for trying it out with Kara. '

Not to mention, Kara is really hot and just because Jimmy was kinda put off guard by her in the beginning, he still pressed that Chloe was his girl until she gave him the door to walk out of. Jimmy should be doing exactly what he is doing, moving on and finding someone new. He should not be pining over Chloe when it was her fault.

I remember Chloe saying that Clark was "no Jimmy Olsen" and that Clark couldn't "hold a candle to the infuriator". Telling Jimmy that he was going to be a "great photographer one day". How proud she was of him in 'Noir' with the front page article on him, in fact she said "there's my hero". Looking upset that he was gone in "Prototype". Being happy to see him in "Fallout" her quote was "the wayward boyfriend returns". She wrote JIMMY a letter in "Cure" to remind her why they belong together. Considering she didn't (seem to) care that she'd forget Clark, the fact that she wrote to Jimmy and wanted him to remind her of things tells me that she did care a lot for Jimmy.

Then she sees him checking Kara out in "Kara", and flirting with Kara in "Cure". Not to mention he was acting all guilty, then Jimmy says their relationship was a "fluke", personally I wouldn't have put up much of a fight if my boyfriend implied that our relationship was a "fluke". Jimmy wanted out because he wanted Kara. To me that means he didn't care at all for Chloe.

As a Chimmy fan, I was hoping they'd get back together, but now I'm not sure. It's obvious that Jimmy cares NOTHING about Chloe. I hope TPTB don't have her pining, but they love to treat her like crap.

I'm tired of TPTB and the writers implying that Chloe is an ugly dog. They can go **** themselves.

Demne

11-02-2007, 11:58 AM

Lol ok, name all the things Jimmy has done for Chloe. Lets see, he helps her on every case if she needs him to do something, they had a whole episode about how he created this cinema room to spend quality time with her. He bought her tickets to go out which he spend a LOT of money on and she turned him down. I could go on and on, on the things Jimmy does for her.

Chloe did not leave Jimmy for Kara, she left him because she was a meteor freak and she did not want to tell him. That is all it is. Chloe goes around talking all day about how to trust people you care about to Clark, and the first guy who gives her the light of day.. she won't spill anything to him.

Sorry but you have no case what so ever that Jimmy did anything poorly to Chloe and I think you need to watch the episodes again. The whole Jimmy Chloe relationship is exactly how a lot of relationships work out.. The girl not noticing that the guy is spilling out his soul and doing everything for her emotionally, financially, and intellectually, and she does not even care. Jimmy would be with her right now if she did not blow him off because of her meteor freakness which really pisses me off because its not like she has some huge powers, all she can do is cry heal.

Chloe is the problem, not Jimmy. Jimmy even told her that he wanted to be hers and that Kara was just a friend, but Chloe so selfish, pushed him away and guess what.. GO JIMMY.. go after Kara and see what happens.. Atleast she will go places with Jimmy. Chloe is more worried about her selfishness than other people.

Jory

11-02-2007, 12:07 PM

samwinchestermustdie

11-02-2007, 12:10 PM

i'm putting a bet on clana killing chloe. the way they are dumping on her somethings bad is going to happen.

Demne

11-02-2007, 12:15 PM

Lol I see people flirt with people all the time in social enviroments and still be in a relationship and never once act. If Chloe had trust issues she should have taken it up with Jimmy and told him instead of assuming. Jimmy would have respected her more for it and yea their relationship was a fluke. Jimmy cared about Chloe but Chloe was to busy for Jimmy.

If Jimmy was dating Chloe at the same time, I would agree but Jimmy would never have gone after Kara like that when he was in a committed relationship.

Chloe wanted to get rid of 6 years of her life, forget Clark, forget Jimmy, and all her friends. WHY? Because Chloe is a little selfish girl who needs to realize not everything is about her, or her career at the Daily Planet.

supergirl28

11-02-2007, 12:54 PM

Its not the end of the world for Chloe. she has to accept the fact that she has powers now. Theres no use in dening the truth from the world.

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Lol ok, name all the things Jimmy has done for Chloe. Lets see, he helps her on every case if she needs him to do something, they had a whole episode about how he created this cinema room to spend quality time with her. He bought her tickets to go out which he spend a LOT of money on and she turned him down. I could go on and on, on the things Jimmy does for her.

Chloe did not leave Jimmy for Kara, she left him because she was a meteor freak and she did not want to tell him. That is all it is. Chloe goes around talking all day about how to trust people you care about to Clark, and the first guy who gives her the light of day.. she won't spill anything to him.

Sorry but you have no case what so ever that Jimmy did anything poorly to Chloe and I think you need to watch the episodes again. The whole Jimmy Chloe relationship is exactly how a lot of relationships work out.. The girl not noticing that the guy is spilling out his soul and doing everything for her emotionally, financially, and intellectually, and she does not even care. Jimmy would be with her right now if she did not blow him off because of her meteor freakness which really pisses me off because its not like she has some huge powers, all she can do is cry heal.

Chloe is the problem, not Jimmy. Jimmy even told her that he wanted to be hers and that Kara was just a friend, but Chloe so selfish, pushed him away and guess what.. GO JIMMY.. go after Kara and see what happens.. Atleast she will go places with Jimmy. Chloe is more worried about her selfishness than other people.

*standing ovation*

Thank you for that wonderful post. Jimmy would be with Chloe right now if she were honest with him. The real test for me if a guy really loves his girlfriend is that he compulsively mentions her when he's with a hot girl. When Jimmy was eating Chinese with the girl he supposedly was so rudely checking out in front of Chloe... who does he mention with un-containable excitement? CHLOE SULLIVAN.

Though I do sympathize with Chloe. I think sometimes that's the way it is. You can quote wise sayings to people all day about keeping secrets... especially when they are keeping a secret you want to know. LOL! But when push comes to shove and you have a difficult secret it really is hard to risk it all. Particularly when you don't fully understand it.

I'm so glad that Chloe wants to be friends with Jimmy. I hope she doesn't give up just because Kara's moving in for the kill. LOL! So to speak. I think at the end of the episode Chloe is truly concerned for Jimmy. It really is a case of out of the frying pan into the fire. She breaks up with Jimmy b/c she's a meteor victim... (*giggle*) and he embarks on a relationship with an ALIEN whom the government considers a national security risk. LOL!

Minela

11-02-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by friday
That's according to Lionel in the trailer for Wrath. And if you take the time to analyze the lengths Lionel went to protect Clark last season, I would say he's also disturbed. Making Lana marry Lex while knowing that he drugged Lana to believe she was pregnant all in the name of protecting Clark is disturbing.

Lex called Lois a "muffin peddler". Does Lex calling her that make it true? ;)

No honey, I don't think Lana is disturbed because Lionel said it. I think Lana is disturbed because she faked her death, embazled $10 million, kidnapped and tortured a man, hit him over the head with a shovel, set up a secret spying office to keep an eye on her ex-husband, all the while lying through her teeth with a fake smile to everybody around her about it. That is disturbing.

Lionel saying it, does not sway my oppinion one way or another. :rolleyes:

Dustmite

11-02-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Chloe wanted to get rid of 6 years of her life, forget Clark, forget Jimmy, and all her friends. WHY?

Because she doesn't want to die or go crazy. Having already died once, I'm guessing she'e not eager to relive the experience. After all it can't be pleasant. But of course Chloe shouldn't think or care about herself, it's all about Jimmy and Clark. Clark who's been happily ignoring her problems for the last few episodes and Jimmy who is so completely hearbroken that he's kissing another girl.

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Minela
No honey, I don't think Lana is disturbed because Lionel said it. I think Lana is disturbed because she faked her death, embazled $10 million, kidnapped and tortured a man, hit him over the head with a shovel, set up a secret spying office to keep an eye on her ex-husband, all the while lying through her teeth with a fake smile to everybody around her about it. That is disturbing.

Lionel saying it, does not sway my oppinion one way or another. :rolleyes:

HA! Don't forget that she put his ARM in a bear-trap! Coo coo coo coo coo coo for cocoa puffs!

Originally posted by Minela
Have you been paying attantion? Lana is disturbed. The ISIS foundation is her own little crusade against Lex. Why would Chloe be involved in that? Plus Chloe is onto Lana, she knows there is something shady going on. Did you notice how disturbed Chloe looked after Lana gave her the "nice-philantrophy-girl" smile and fed her the lies. Divorce settlement? Right. Try Embezlement. "Oh, and don't tell Clark about this", coming from the Queen of secrets and lies.

No. Chloe does not need to be involved in that arc, unless it is to expose Lana the new villain.

Plus. I don't know what the problem is here with Chloe's arc? They mention her ability in every episode, it is not being put on the back burner. I'm glad they aren't rushing through it. She is not a FOTW. First they need to deal with her emotional difficultie with the power and how if affects her relationships. Than they will tap into the possibilities for her power. Just give it time.

As far as the Chimmara triangle goes, I see no evidence TPTB think Chloe is "ugly" or "undesirable". It is just mythos that Jimmy and Kara have a thing for eachother. TPTB love triangles. Just because Chimmy is over for now, doesn't mean they won't bring it back. It was completley obvious that Jimmy was head over heals in love with Chloe.

Oh this is a great post. Makes me feel so much better about Chloe's story arc. Still wish Clark would put a comforting arm around her shoulders or something. Yeah I do! I don't care that certain fans would say that means they are getting married. It's what a good friend would do.

*sigh*

I guess Chloe and Clark have had a heart to heart in offscreenville. Or Clark tried to have a heart to heart and she pushed him away... like she did in Bizarro...

:(

eas

11-02-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Lol ok, name all the things Jimmy has done for Chloe. Lets see, he helps her on every case if she needs him to do something, they had a whole episode about how he created this cinema room to spend quality time with her. He bought her tickets to go out which he spend a LOT of money on and she turned him down. I could go on and on, on the things Jimmy does for her.

Chloe did not leave Jimmy for Kara, she left him because she was a meteor freak and she did not want to tell him. That is all it is. Chloe goes around talking all day about how to trust people you care about to Clark, and the first guy who gives her the light of day.. she won't spill anything to him.

Sorry but you have no case what so ever that Jimmy did anything poorly to Chloe and I think you need to watch the episodes again. The whole Jimmy Chloe relationship is exactly how a lot of relationships work out.. The girl not noticing that the guy is spilling out his soul and doing everything for her emotionally, financially, and intellectually, and she does not even care. Jimmy would be with her right now if she did not blow him off because of her meteor freakness which really pisses me off because its not like she has some huge powers, all she can do is cry heal.

Chloe is the problem, not Jimmy. Jimmy even told her that he wanted to be hers and that Kara was just a friend, but Chloe so selfish, pushed him away and guess what.. GO JIMMY.. go after Kara and see what happens.. Atleast she will go places with Jimmy. Chloe is more worried about her selfishness than other people.

Agree 100%.

This was actually touched upon in this episode. When Kara comes back and apologizes to Jimmy for running out on him, she admits that she wouldn't have had a lead if it wasn't for his help. He responds with saying, "Oh, you noticed that?" And it's clear that he's happily surprised because of all the times that CHLOE didn't realize that or care enough to give him fair share of credit.

We've seen Jimmy, again and again, put Chloe first & Chloe shoot him down because she's had to either (1) chase after something for Clark or (2) figure something out about her meteor power.

There were also a lot of times where she was downright mean and patronizing to him in front of Clark.

So Jimmy took a second to recognize that Kara is hot (while he was with Chloe). So Jimmy decided to eat Chinese food with Kara while he was with Chloe. So what? Guys do stuff like that all the time even if they're madly in love with the girl they're with.

I think that the break-up scene in "Cure" pretty much told us how important Chloe was to Jimmy. The man was practically in tears when they broke up and I think he was fully entitled to go, "I can't do this anymore...." That makes him a man to be respected. And as far as moving on Kara so quickly? They went out for lunch. Kara initiated the kiss - not Jimmy. And if being with Kara makes him happy, I don't blame Jimmy for it. Good for him because he realizes that a girl can actually like him for who is and respect him at the same time. Chloe treated him badly a lot of the time and it's not Jimmy's job to pine after her.

Demne

11-02-2007, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Dustmite
Because she doesn't want to die or go crazy. Having already died once, I'm guessing she'e not eager to relive the experience. After all it can't be pleasant. But of course Chloe shouldn't think or care about herself, it's all about Jimmy and Clark. Clark who's been happily ignoring her problems for the last few episodes and Jimmy who is so completely hearbroken that he's kissing another girl.

Clark died multiple times, you see him whining about not using his powers again? Chloe is doing basically what a teenager does when they go off on their own and forget about their family who actually cares about them because Chloe is uber selfish and just thinking about what she wants and not including her family and friends in it.

And btw, Jimmy's relationship was not just weeks, and neither was their breakup. If you consider it.. 2 months went by while Jimmy and Chloe were having issues and it has been another monthish since now he hooked up with Kara. I really feel that the Jimmy/Ch relationship was pretty short in length and good for Jimmy for not dorking around feeling sorry for himself. He is confident and Kara likes him, so if Chloe is going to whine about him now after months that he is kissing another girl, even if she is a Kryponian, who cares what Chloe thinks. I sure wouldn't.

eas

11-02-2007, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Jory
Jimmy's a saint. Checking out another girl and flirting with her while dating someone else. Let's not forget he never called Chloe back after their first time together. I remember Jimmy calling his and Chloe's relationship a "fluke", that sounds he was "hers". He should have told her that he'd be there for her no matter what. How did he know she didn't ahave a brain issue (her forgetting him). Has Jimmy ever been there emotionally for Chloe?

Yeah, I think he has been there for her. A lot of the time, she hasn't allowed him to be there for her -- not because he doesn't want to, but because she didn't trust him enough.

I enjoyed the Chimmy ship a few times -- but for the most part, I do think that it was written in a very weird way. And not because of Jimmy. The weirdness mostly came from Chloe's side. She would dump him to go with Clark last season. This season, she dealt with her meteor freak issues. These were all things that Jimmy couldn't understand because he can't read her mind. If she doesn't let him in, emotionally, he can't be expected to be there for her emotionally.

Also, he called their relationship a fluke because they were breaking up. He (very clearly) was hurting and saying that he must have been wrong. That box that he put together to help her remember him showed how deeply he felt about her much more than any words could have. And once she said she remembered him, he was ready to move on & it was Chloe that said that she could never tell him that things would be normal. And he realized that he couldn't be with a girl like that... and he was right to think that.

And as far as Kara is concerned -- I don't think that this has anything to do with them thinking that Chloe is ugly. I mean, c'mon Allison is gorgeous. They'd have to be blind to think that Chloe is ugly. Look at the way they handle the scenes with Bart and Chloe. Bart is massively crushing on Chloe and totally wants her. (Personally, I can't wait until he comes back and Chloe is single this time -- I totally ship them.)

And look at Lois -- if it was all about girls being hot, then why is Clark so NOT in love with Lois (even though canon has Lois and Clark together). By that factor, we'd have to conclude that Lois is ugly and that's why Clark can't get that he should be with her.

Nope, I think that this "twist" is just because AlMiles love their little triangles. And Kara/Jimmy have had a relationship in many other versions of Superman... so it makes sense that they'd play this angle in "SV".

Dustmite

11-02-2007, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Clark died multiple times, you see him whining about not using his powers again? Chloe is doing basically what a teenager does when they go off on their own and forget about their family who actually cares about them because Chloe is uber selfish and just thinking about what she wants and not including her family and friends in it.

Clark died once and he has constantly whined about not being normal. He did not die, however as a result of using his powers. He died as a result of not having them.

Chloe's power is reactive, not something that she can control and she died the first time she used it. She's entitled to be scared. She feels she has a death sentence hanging over her and people don't act normally in those situations.

Why is she uber selfish for wanting to be cured?

As for her family and friends, if Jimmy had stopped harping on about how evil MFs were, maybe she would have told him. As for Clark, in this episode, he didn't seem to consider her problems very much.

Jimmy hooked up with Kara pretty damn quickly after their break up so he can't be as hearbroken as some are claiming.

The man was practically in tears when they broke up

And Chloe was dancing for joy!!!

eas

11-02-2007, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Dustmite
And Chloe was dancing for joy!!!

Well, I didn't say that Chloe was dancing for joy -- nor did I imply that she wasn't affected or hurt by the break up. Clearly, she's quite affected because she mentions Jimmy quite a few times in "Action" (and Clark ignores her) and she clearly still wants to be friends with Jimmy in "Kara".

However -- the fact that Jimmy is not fending off Kara's advances doesn't make Jimmy a bad guy or detract from how he felt about Chloe. It's been a couple of months (I think) since Chloe/Jimmy broke up & let's face it -- Kara is a hot, smart, funny, and interesting girl who is clearly enamored by Jimmy and respects him a lot. WHY wouldn't he go ahead and pursue something with her? He has no reason not to. I, personally, respect him more for having enough self-confidence to see that Kara could be good for him and moving forward with his life, as opposed to taking the route that Clark would -- obsessing and pining for an eternity.

It's sad, but I feel like Jimmy is acting more like a mature man here than Clark ever has.

Demne

11-02-2007, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Dustmite
Clark died once and he has constantly whined about not being normal. He did not die, however as a result of using his powers. He died as a result of not having them.

Chloe's power is reactive, not something that she can control and she died the first time she used it. She's entitled to be scared. She feels she has a death sentence hanging over her and people don't act normally in those situations.

Why is she uber selfish for wanting to be cured?

As for her family and friends, if Jimmy had stopped harping on about how evil MFs were, maybe she would have told him. As for Clark, in this episode, he didn't seem to consider her problems very much.

Jimmy hooked up with Kara pretty damn quickly after their break up so he can't be as hearbroken as some are claiming.

And Chloe was dancing for joy!!!

Didn't Chloe harp on Clark for years about meteor freaks till she found out about his abilities? Same thing right here, except now she is doing exactly what she told Clark not to do. Double standard if you ask me. Jimmy loved Chloe and he would have supported her. Sorry but this case does not make sense what so ever. Jimmy did not hook up with Kara, he had dinner with her, and just last episode she gave him a peck kiss and she invited him to chinese dinner.

Great for him! Chloe won't give him the time of day and why should he waste an opportunity with a woman who is one of the hottest girls in Smallville, for Chloe who wont even go out with him after he paid for everything.

Chloe can care all she wants about getting cured, I don't care about that.. But she is doing it behind everyones back and she lies consistantly to everyone. Chloe is the problem and always was.

eas

11-02-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Dustmite
Why is she uber selfish for wanting to be cured?

As for her family and friends, if Jimmy had stopped harping on about how evil MFs were, maybe she would have told him.

Hhmm... I don't think that Chloe is uber-selfish for wanting to be cured. It makes sense -- given the same situation, I would probably just as freaked out and scared as she is.

However, I don't think it's Jimmy's fault about the whole meteor freak comments he's made. He told her that he had always felt that CHLOE was mean to people who were infected and after going through so many things, he's realizing that she was right. He was just agreeing with her.

It's just ironic that he came around to her way of thinking around the same time that she had completely altered her own opinion due to the fact that she had become of the people she used to write about. It's flipped around -- she used to write about this subject and now she is the subject. So, suddenly, using the word "freak" is wrong and you have to say "meteor challenged". Well, she wasn't being politcally correct before, was she? Only after SHE found out she one of "them" did she bother to look at them as human beings.

So why is it that Jimmy is now suddenly to be hated because he feels the same way Chloe used to for years?

Also, we can't use Jimmy's comments as an excuse for why Chloe can't be honest with him. Isn't this the same scenario that Chloe was on Clark's case for years about??? He was afraid that Lana wouldn't understand and Chloe told him he should be honest, no matter what?? Now, when it's her turn, she doesn't give Jimmy the same due that she expected Clark to give Lana. So, she's a hypocrite.

Demne

11-02-2007, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by eas
Well, I didn't say that Chloe was dancing for joy -- nor did I imply that she wasn't affected or hurt by the break up. Clearly, she's quite affected because she mentions Jimmy quite a few times in "Action" (and Clark ignores her) and she clearly still wants to be friends with Jimmy in "Kara".

However -- the fact that Jimmy is not fending off Kara's advances doesn't make Jimmy a bad guy or detract from how he felt about Chloe. It's been a couple of months (I think) since Chloe/Jimmy broke up & let's face it -- Kara is a hot, smart, funny, and interesting girl who is clearly enamored by Jimmy and respects him a lot. WHY wouldn't he go ahead and pursue something with her? He has no reason not to. I, personally, respect him more for having enough self-confidence to see that Kara could be good for him and moving forward with his life, as opposed to taking the route that Clark would -- obsessing and pining for an eternity.

It's sad, but I feel like Jimmy is acting more like a mature man here than Clark ever has.

Only problem I see in that is that Clark has powers and his secret to hide, and Jimmy doesn't. Clark has to think really hard about being in a relationship and if it is going to work, while Jimmy has nothing to worry about along those same lines. Clark has it rough. Cyborg was in love with that one girl, and she threw him away because of his abilities. Same thing happens to Clark.

eas

11-02-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Only problem I see in that is that Clark has powers and his secret to hide, and Jimmy doesn't. Clark has to think really hard about being in a relationship and if it is going to work, while Jimmy has nothing to worry about along those same lines. Clark has it rough. Cyborg was in love with that one girl, and she threw him away because of his abilities. Same thing happens to Clark.

Yes, that's true. However, that doesn't mean that Clark needs to pine after Lana for 7 years. That doesn't excuse Clark's immaturity when it comes to how he deals with Lana. He should have moved on by now.

In this case, with Jimmy, you're right -- he has NO reason not to date Kara. So what if he just broke up with Chloe? A lot of people start going out with new people a few weeks after breaking up with someone. No need to mope and pine for years.

Demne

11-02-2007, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by eas
Yes, that's true. However, that doesn't mean that Clark needs to pine after Lana for 7 years. That doesn't excuse Clark's immaturity when it comes to how he deals with Lana. He should have moved on by now.

Because the Smallville years are about Clark and Lana. Lana was his Smallville sweetheart. He meets up with her in Superman 3 to rekindle a little bit of their youth. Kinda hard for her not to be an important part of his life throughout the years.

litew8

11-02-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by samwinchestermustdie
i'm putting a bet on clana killing chloe. the way they are dumping on her somethings bad is going to happen. I was thinking the same thing.
But then I thought - Chloe is invincible.
Lana might try to kill her, but it won't be successfull.
Chloe's powers will beat all odds and shine soon - is what I think.

Dustmite

11-02-2007, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Didn't Chloe harp on Clark for years about meteor freaks till she found out about his abilities?

Yes and it's pretty obvious that she is scared of what she is now capable of and has no idea in which direction this 'ability' will take her.

Same thing right here, except now she is doing exactly what she told Clark not to do.

Yep and I don't like it much either but more people blame Lana then they blame Clark. Why the double standard when it come to Chloe?

Jimmy loved Chloe and he would have supported her

How can you say that with such certainty? We have no idea how Jimmy would have reacted. I think he'd have been pretty damn freaked out.

Jimmy did not hook up with Kara, he had dinner with her, and just last episode she gave him a peck kiss and she invited him to chinese dinner.

It's totally platonic then. Sorry my mistake.

Great for him! Chloe won't give him the time of day and why should he waste an opportunity with a woman who is one of the hottest girls in Smallville

Chloe and Jimmy went out for a year. She gave him plenty of time. And when did I say he shouldn't go out with Kara. I said he doesn't seem too heartbroken over his break up with Chloe.

for Chloe who wont even go out with him after he paid for everything.

That happened once.

But she is doing it behind everyones back and she lies consistantly to everyone.

Should she announce it in the newspaper so she can be taken apart in some lab. She lied to Jimmy and now she doesn't have to because they are no longer together.

Chloe is the problem and always was.

I don't understand that statement. Is that in reference to the Chlimmy relationship. If so, no no one has to worry about Chloe being the problem anymore because Jimmy is with Kara now who will never ever lie to him and will at all times be completely open and honest.

eas

11-02-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Demne
Because the Smallville years are about Clark and Lana. Lana was his Smallville sweetheart. He meets up with her in Superman 3 to rekindle a little bit of their youth. Kinda hard for her not to be an important part of his life throughout the years.

Yes, but he's not in high school anymore. I think that it worked for the first few years. But, as he grew older, it has become very redundant and has impacted his character negatively.

And, yes, "Superman III" did focus on the Clark and Lana relationship a bit, but it was not exactly a good movie. In fact, it's widely considered to be one of the worst versions of Superman out there. (Although I did think that Annette O'Toole was very sweet in that movie.)

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 02:18 PM

I'm sure it would be possible to write seven years of Clana well. But that is not the case with this show. Clana seems to me to be holding everything back. For no good reason. Just my opinion. I fully realize that there are viewers who find the past seven years of Clana on Smallville fun and interesting. I'm just not one of them.

I did enjoy it in Superman 3 though as a whole that move really sucked. And Lois was cut out and replaced by Lana for political reasons and not creative ones.

Demne

11-02-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by eas
Yes, but he's not in high school anymore. I think that it worked for the first few years. But, as he grew older, it has become very redundant and has impacted his character negatively.

And, yes, "Superman III" did focus on the Clark and Lana relationship a bit, but it was not exactly a good movie. In fact, it's widely considered to be one of the worst versions of Superman out there. (Although I did think that Annette O'Toole was very sweet in that movie.)

Don't get me wrong, the director did a horrible job. But even in Superman: The Movie Clark had the hots for Lana. Superman 3, he still had the hots for Lana. Its his Highschool crush and if Lois was not such a big part of his life.. He probably would have married Lana Lang instead. If you went back to your high school reunion and you saw the girl that you had a crush on and she was still as beautiful as she was then and single.. I would probably be interested in her as well. Lana certainly was interested in Clark that is for sure.

Jory

11-02-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Dustmite
Yes and it's pretty obvious that she is scared of what she is now capable of and has no idea in which direction this 'ability' will take her.

Yep and I don't like it much either but more people blame Lana then they blame Clark. Why the double standard when it come to Chloe?

How can you say that with such certainty? We have no idea how Jimmy would have reacted. I think he'd have been pretty damn freaked out.

It's totally platonic then. Sorry my mistake.

Chloe and Jimmy went out for a year. She gave him plenty of time. And when did I say he shouldn't go out with Kara. I said he doesn't seem too heartbroken over his break up with Chloe.

That happened once.

Should she announce it in the newspaper so she can be taken apart in some lab. She lied to Jimmy and now she doesn't have to because they are no longer together.

I don't understand that statement. Is that in reference to the Chlimmy relationship. If so, no no one has to worry about Chloe being the problem anymore because Jimmy is with Kara now who will never ever lie to him and will at all times be completely open and honest.

I agree with everything you said. People saying how horrible Chloe was for lying to Jimmy, will be in for a surprise when Kara does the same thing. If Chloe's awful for keeping her secret, then Kara is too.

Kara's going to be lying, and running off on Jimmy also, then give him a lame excuse for it. So much for Kara "trusting him".

owensj1

11-02-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Jory
Couldn't agree more.

I thought TPTB were going to explore her power, what it is, if it can be controlled etc, but with Kara on the show I guess they decided not to. It's pretty idiotic to introduce something and not explore it. They should never have given her powers if nothings going to come of it.

What happened to Chloe's interview in "Action"?They introduced that and never followed through.

Now you have Jimmy (who obviously was never that much in love with her) eyeing kara when he was still with Chloe, and now is in love with Kara. Guess he didn't have too deep of feelings for Chloe since he got over her fast.

TPTB have to make sure they make it be known that Chloe is,not only, ugly but also undesireable (Jimmy's "whoa" after Kara kissed him), in their opinions.

Is it any wonder that Allison is ,probably, leaving after the season is over? TPTB must feel that she is also ugly and undesireable, if they are trying to say that about the character she plays. Jerks.

I'm really getting tired of them kicking Chloe while she's down.

I think you are probably right and I find it so depressing. Chloe is such a wonderful character and Allison is so good! I have been fighting this conclusion for many years because I just couldn't admit it to myself and I think that Allison is so pretty.
For me Clark's "choosing" Lana over Chloe was his personal choice and not some blanket statement of Lana being pretty and Chloe being undesirable. I never had a problem with this because, as expressed by TW, he was clearly move in love with Lana -- personal choice. But now with the Kara / Jimmy storyline TPTB do seem to me moving back to Chloe is to ugly to love and never worth choosing.

It is very hard to know what someone is truly thinking but I wonder sometimes if Al/Miles resent AM because she is such a better actress the any of the younger cast members. When she has a good story line she is simply on fire and even though it was very hard to experience, the Chimmy break up scene was wonderfully acted by both AA and AM. Really John Glover is the only one on the show with the same kind of acting chops. God I wish they would have more scenes together.
What I find so surprising is that Chloe is Al/Miles most unique creation on Smallville and so much of what Chloe has become is due to AM. They do no seem to appreciate her very much.

For me I think that 7 years is enough time for Allison to be playing Chloe and it might be a good thing if she moved on. She really belongs in feature films.

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 05:08 PM

Well I'll speak for myself and say that initially Clark was to blame for the failure of Clana. Lana said they could never be together if he didn't tell her the truth, he didn't tell her the truth, they weren't together. THEN unlike Jimmy, who said he couldn't take it and left. Lana continued to come back to Clark. She continually went back on her resolve to not be with Clark with out knowing his secret only to rake him over the coals for not telling her.

*SNORE*

I'm sorry but it just doesn't make sense to me that they would resent AM for being talented. LOL! Lots of people only watch the show because of AM. So seems like they'd be patting themselves on the back for their great casting choices.

If the Smallville creators think that people hate Lana because she's pretty... that would explain why they continue to make the same old mistakes in writing her. I wonder why they LOVE Lana. Maybe they were quick to jump to the conclusion that people hate Lana b/c she's pretty b/c they love Lana for that reason. LOL!

I think Chloe has a lot to do... most of it unfortunately seems to happen in Offscreenville while we watch Lana Lang Luthor torture people.

Jory

11-02-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by owensj1
I think you are probably right and I find it so depressing. Chloe is such a wonderful character and Allison is so good! I have been fighting this conclusion for many years because I just couldn't admit it to myself and I think that Allison is so pretty.
For me Clark's "choosing" Lana over Chloe was his personal choice and not some blanket statement of Lana being pretty and Chloe being undesirable. I never had a problem with this because, as expressed by TW, he was clearly move in love with Lana -- personal choice. But now with the Kara / Jimmy storyline TPTB do seem to me moving back to Chloe is to ugly to love and never worth choosing.

It is very hard to know what someone is truly thinking but I wonder sometimes if Al/Miles resent AM because she is such a better actress the any of the younger cast members. When she has a good story line she is simply on fire and even though it was very hard to experience, the Chimmy break up scene was wonderfully acted by both AA and AM. Really John Glover is the only one on the show with the same kind of acting chops. God I wish they would have more scenes together.
What I find so surprising is that Chloe is Al/Miles most unique creation on Smallville and so much of what Chloe has become is due to AM. They do no seem to appreciate her very much.

For me I think that 7 years is enough time for Allison to be playing Chloe and it might be a good thing if she moved on. She really belongs in feature films.

I agree. I had hoped that TPTB thinking that about Chloe wasn't true; however, the Kara/Jimmy thing confirmed it to me. After reading older interviews with Al and Miles, it really is sad to think that they believe that about Chloe (and by extension Allison).

All you ever hear/read is how beautiful Lana is. And the actresses of Kristin,Erica and Laura in interviews by Al and Miles. They NEVER compliment Allison. Now Al says how it would be so hard for Jimmy to walk away from Kara(the "hot" one). Implying that it's easy to walk away from Chloe(the "ugly"one), it's sickening really. What a jerk.

I also thought TPTB would be excited that Chloe was popular for the reasons you state,but that clearly isn't the case.

Hopefully Allison will end up where she and her talents are appreciated, because it's obvious that isn't on Smallville. She's treated like pond scum.

harryandginnyfanatic

11-02-2007, 06:58 PM

When did TPTB ever use the word 'ugly' to describe AM or Chloe?

ginnyfan

11-02-2007, 07:16 PM

Really. They'd have to be blind to think that.

I think the real problem is that due to the way they write Lana if anyone else dated Lex and/or Clark... her character would become purposeless...

Khyla

11-29-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Jory
I remember Chloe saying that Clark was "no Jimmy Olsen" and that Clark couldn't "hold a candle to the infuriator". Telling Jimmy that he was going to be a "great photographer one day". How proud she was of him in 'Noir' with the front page article on him, in fact she said "there's my hero". Looking upset that he was gone in "Prototype". Being happy to see him in "Fallout" her quote was "the wayward boyfriend returns". She wrote JIMMY a letter in "Cure" to remind her why they belong together. Considering she didn't (seem to) care that she'd forget Clark, the fact that she wrote to Jimmy and wanted him to remind her of things tells me that she did care a lot for Jimmy. ...

What the characters SAY and what they DO, HOW THEY ACT AND REACT are often two different things. Chloe said a lot to and about Jimmy, But none of it was really that convincing, just like their relationship :\