Lex's future lobotomy...

[krypt0man]

Uhm... perhaps this has been covered before, but Oh WELL. Here's my question. How in Sam Hill is Lex NOT going to be able to ID Superman as Clark? I mean, SO much junk has happened, so many "almost gotchas", you'd think when he saw Supes he'd just smack his forhead and say "Well CRAP THAT explains it ALL!" Lobotomy or brain damage? Car WrecK? Psychotic break? What will be the cause of his inability to connect the dots after all this buildup and interest in Clark and trying to solve the Mystery of Clark Kent? Or will the Smallville universe never have to deal with this question? Any insights?

[Azurewrath]

Lex licks a poisonous turtle and his memory is wiped.

[xrayvision]

In an interview, they said they will never address that issue because they don't care. They said Clark will not be Superman on the show and since they don't have to deal with the problem (because there will never be Lex vs. Superman), they won't bother to address it.

[faz]

You're forgetting, Clark doesn't have his "forgetfulness kiss" yet, which they will reveal in the series finale titled "Clex". That's the power everyone's been most anticipating, right?

[Alexander III]

In the DC comic it says that Lex did an experiment and unfortunately the result was an explosion that nearly killed him, but it also directly wipes out his memory of Clark and his past. So Lex won't remember who Clark is then.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by faz
You're forgetting, Clark doesn't have his "forgetfulness kiss" yet, which they will reveal in the series finale titled "Clex". That's the power everyone's been most anticipating, right?

The "forgetful kiss" doesn't exist, except in the movie.

[DarkChilde]

He can use The House of El symbol, like Zor-El did.

[krypt0man]

Well if his memory gets wiped and he goes all bad guy regardless, they might as well either let him discover Clarks powers and they can be best buds for the remainder of the series.... or let him find out and really put the hurts on Clark. Either way I hope they GIVE LEX HIS TEETH BACK. I'm tired of mamby pamby Lex. I'm sure Rosenbaum is too...

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by krypt0man
I'm tired of mamby pamby Lex. I'm sure Rosenbaum is too...

I think Rosenbaum is just sick of being Lex, period.

[krypt0man]

Xray - if they really said that in an interview then that's pretty disappointing. Cuz ultimately Superman vs. Lex is what its all about - what it's all leading to, and what they are building shows on. Dumb.

[faz]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
The "forgetful kiss" doesn't exist, except in the movie.

Haha I know man, just throwing in a little sarcasm.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by krypt0man
Xray - if they really said that in an interview then that's pretty disappointing. Cuz ultimately Superman vs. Lex is what its all about - what it's all leading to, and what they are building shows on. Dumb.

It is dumb. I've been saying for a while now that by bringing Kal-El (the one we saw in Crusade) back as a seperate being thanks to black-k seperation and having him in costume, they could explain this and have one hell of a season arc (Clark vs. Kal-El for Clark's training--like my avatar shows) like I am doing in my very own season 7 fanfic episodes that I post on this site.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by krypt0man
Uhm... perhaps this has been covered before, but Oh WELL. Here's my question. How in Sam Hill is Lex NOT going to be able to ID Superman as Clark? I mean, SO much junk has happened, so many "almost gotchas", you'd think when he saw Supes he'd just smack his forhead and say "Well CRAP THAT explains it ALL!" Lobotomy or brain damage? Car WrecK? Psychotic break? What will be the cause of his inability to connect the dots after all this buildup and interest in Clark and trying to solve the Mystery of Clark Kent? Or will the Smallville universe never have to deal with this question? Any insights?

1) The Smallville Universe will not have to deal with the question...

but...

2) What if they decide to let Lex continue knowing the secret? This is a new take on the mythos, we don't know what they're going to do other then Lex being Superman's arch-nemesis while Clark and Lois work at the DP and fall in love.

[Zooks]

lex in the birthright continuity knew right away that clark=superman... not a big deal.

[Jephael]

Originally posted by faz
You're forgetting, Clark doesn't have his "forgetfulness kiss" yet, which they will reveal in the series finale titled "Clex". That's the power everyone's been most anticipating, right?

Dude, my friend and I were talking about that one time last year. We were laughing our butts off thinking about that!

[faz]

Clex is always good for a little comic relief.

[Randy G.]

Actually, the Haitian comes in and wipes Lex's memories of Clark's secret. ;)

[faz]

Ahh, more stunt casting from TPTB. Figures.

[LexLuv180]

If they have Lex forget everything about Smallville at the end, it would be the biggest killer of the show for me. You see him experience and do all this stuff for nothing? They'd better not :(

[krypt0man]

Unfortunately, at the end, it would be too late. The writers / producers would say "So what are you gonna do? Not watch the show? It's OVER. Tuff." Not having to deal with Lex vs. Superman is NOT the way to approach it. Not if they want any fans after the show ends... and if they want anyone in general to watch / read anything they ever write again. If Smallville came to a real crappo ending that disregarded the future and past, I personally would never watch anything they put out again. Why do we watch? Because we have an idea of what's coming and we enjoy watching how it comes to be, and how many twists and turns the story can take along the way and STILL jive with the end we know and expect. We expect certain things to remain constant. Lex vs. Superman is one of those things.

[Humdinger]

Good luck with that. Since when do Al/Miles give a sh*t what fans think!

[Jephael]

Why do I suddenly have this image in my head of Al and Miles hanging out with the South Park guys?

[Cychotec]

I always figured with this show that Lex will eventually find out Clarks secret and the fact that he never was honest with him and won't join him fuels his anger toward him. But he won't reveal his secret to anyone else due to some twisted sense of loyalty Lex has for Clark.

I also see this Superman being more of an urban myth, rumours will start to circlulate of a "Superman" that rescues people in a flash of red and blue. I've thought that for a while, it seems to fit this version of Superman more, I don't see the TW version of Clark dressing up in tights and a silly red cape. People might not like that idea, cause some are dying to see the suit I know, I don't find that the traditional uniform fits this Superman. I feel some thing more like Kon-ELs outfit would be what this Clark would wear.

[JudasAce]

I don't watch this to see Superman. in fact, I hope we NEVER see those lame tights on this show. It was one thing to have funnybooks designed for 10 year olds featuring guys in circus costumes, but those days are over, and the only place those outfits are useful any more is in a gay-pride parade.

Anyhow, as to the topic...Clark disguises himself by wearing glasses...how much logical sense does that make anyhow? Before worrying about "omg they all saw him without the glasses and will know he is Superman" ask yourself...if someone took off their glasses would you suddenly think they were a different person?"

[borednow]

Zor-el's memory wipe crystal was forshadowing :eek:

[krypt0man]

I agree with the tights thing. Remember when Clark said that the ... uh... batgirl woman (think it was angel of something or other...) whatever - it was last season ... when he said to Chloe that her outfit was "a bit much" or "not his style". Can't remember exactly. At the time I thought it was supposed to get a chuckle cuz how much more ridiculous can you get than Supes tights? But now I can't imagine TW in them at all. I agree. BUt flyin? Why not? That'd be cool. They are *still* milking the footage from Crusade in the opening title sequence. Why? Cuz it's just COOL, and everyone dug it.

[JTKB44]

Originally posted by borednow
Zor-el's memory wipe crystal was forshadowing :eek: thats sooooo true bro good one ;) .

[montidatta]

Yeah, on the last or next-to-last episode, somebody's gonna use that Zor-el crystal to wipe Lex's memory clean.

[LexLuv180]

Ugh don't torment me with the thought. I hate the stupid memory wipe cop-outs. Everyone should have their memories intact when they go on to their goodiville or evilness or whatever.

[nightshadz]

Originally posted by faz
You're forgetting, Clark doesn't have his "forgetfulness kiss" yet, which they will reveal in the series finale titled "Clex". That's the power everyone's been most anticipating, right?

Oh man. I can just see how it will play out:

Clark: You know Lex, I never really noticed how beautiful your eyes are...

Lex: I feel a little embarrassed revealing this, but everything I've done - The lying, The betrayal, Marrying Lana, it was all because I love you! I tried fighting it by pushing you away, but I can't deny my destiny any longer! Please tell me you feel the same way?

Clark: You're making me so hot right now!

****KISS****

Lex: Where am ... Who are you?

Clark: :\ :(

[HowardFilms]

Originally posted by Zooks
lex in the birthright continuity knew right away that clark=superman... not a big deal.

No he didn't. Reread it.


Originally posted by JudasAce
I don't watch this to see Superman. in fact, I hope we NEVER see those lame tights on this show. It was one thing to have funnybooks designed for 10 year olds featuring guys in circus costumes, but those days are over, and the only place those outfits are useful any more is in a gay-pride parade.

Blasphemy.

[krypt0man]

ew. (referring to Clex) Yuck. Don't do that again.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Zooks
lex in the birthright continuity knew right away that clark=superman... not a big deal.

No he didn't. The rationale was Lex thought he was the only thing that could ever come out of Smallville. His arrogance is what makes him not realize Clark is Superman.

[Rose etta]

Can't you imagine how pleased Lex would be, to be one of the select few who knew Supes was Clark, enabling him to toy with Clark utilizing just-between-them irony, n such?

I've seen this in lots of fandom fic and it's a pretty cool take on the issue.

[MrZeppo]

The Martian Manhunter fries Lex's brain near the end of the series to protect Clark after Lex finds out the secret. This is all done without Clark's knowledge of course. Don't ask, dont' tell, after all.

[KryptonStones]

That memori wiping scenario is a BAD idea because it negates SEVEN LONG YEARS of character development between Lex and Clark. If AlMiles really piss me off because their disregard for this particular aspect displays their utter disrespect toward the mythos. They say it's not Superman and yet they've brought in Braniac, Zod, the Martian Manhunter, half of the Justice Leagie, KARA! I mean, I have no problem with it, but since they've incorproated so many people that Clark is supposed to face when he's SUPERMAN I'm starting to see this more as Supes without the tights. If they were smart, I'd be satisfied if they used X-ray's idea of Clark vs. Kal-El to clear up this nonsense, or have the MM shapeshift into Clark so Lex can so two Clarks with one using his powers. If they don't do anything to that affect, I'm just gonna assume Lex knows that Clark is Superman in the future.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by KryptonStones
That memori wiping scenario is a BAD idea because it negates SEVEN LONG YEARS of character development between Lex and Clark. If AlMiles really piss me off because their disregard for this particular aspect displays their utter disrespect toward the mythos. They say it's not Superman and yet they've brought in Braniac, Zod, the Martian Manhunter, half of the Justice Leagie, KARA! I mean, I have no problem with it, but since they've incorproated so many people that Clark is supposed to face when he's SUPERMAN I'm starting to see this more as Supes without the tights. If they were smart, I'd be satisfied if they used X-ray's idea of Clark vs. Kal-El to clear up this nonsense, or have the MM shapeshift into Clark so Lex can so two Clarks with one using his powers. If they don't do anything to that affect, I'm just gonna assume Lex knows that Clark is Superman in the future.

Thanks KryptonStones.