Good ep, but lots of loose ends.

[MR F]

I'd say that this ep was one of the more exciting episodes in season 7, but it is not without its mysteries. Some of these are already being talked about, but I figured I'd just get these ??? off my chest.

1. Kara wearing a pink polo and tight jeans...not only was it unusual, but non-existent in 1986, her fashion outlook was more 2002+.

2. The silver CRT TV in 1986 was well...too modern as TVs back in the day were still fairly big and bulky with small screens and had wood accent finishes, TV is about 1994+.

3. How did Kara know that the camera was a camera on the spot? Lucky guess, study Earth before, or Kryptonians also had Polaroids?

4. How did Clark find the crystal?

5. Does Kara know about Clark's possession of the crystal?

6. Why didn't Clark question how Lana knew that Kara was in the Luthor mansion?

7. What happened to agent Carter? Most will say he died, but wouldn't the government look into his death?

8. The government lab equipment was totalled, another Luthor hair brain scheme to cover up, seems hard to me, even for a rich guy if it is a secret high priority government lab?

9. When Kara barged into the lab, I'm pretty sure for such a secret and important lab that there would be cameras to watch her, unless she disabled them.

10. What happened to the lab tech guy? Did he also get silenced? Or just turn a blind eye to Kara, his destroyed lab, and missing boss?

11. This isn't really specific to this episode, but all the characters just assume that Clark and Kara sneaked out quickly and silently while in conversation...in under a second, umm...

12. Lex saw Kara broke into his mansion, then got arrested in K-cuffs while in pain, is he just going to assume she got winded, or is there something to her and her *possible* abilities?

13. How does hammering your fist into someone's chest bring them back to life? Usually it requires some electricity or other matter to start the nervous system, circulatory system, etc. It's like hammering your TV when it isn't working and hopefully it will work again.

[HouseOfEl]

Dude you're getting alittle too analytical. I do agree with the crystal though. It will be interesting to see how he got it and if Kara finds out.

[CLSmith]

You think when Jonathan and Martha came home from church they wondered what happened to the front door?

So that picture sat behind Martha's picture in the frame for 18 years!? Even after the second meteor shower 2 years back? Which destroyed the Kent's home!

-cs™

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by HouseOfEl
Dude you're getting alittle too analytical. I do agree with the crystal though. It will be interesting to see how he got it and if Kara finds out.

NO he isnt, as viewers we have the right to question how the story is being presented to us. Suspence of belief is one thing, abusing it and having stuff happen without any logical explanation is just lazy. I mean even Superman is explained with some suspence of belief logic, like the fact that he´s molecular structure is diferent, etc. but the show being a sci fi show, does not give them the right to overlook everything.

[HouseOfEl]

You can't expect the writers to fulfill EVERY SINGLE DETAIL that everyone wants to see. Plotholes are part of any story you just have to deal with them and focus on the main story arc.

[Alexander III]

How did Agent Carter know she's in Lex's mansion...it's just gay! And once again, where's Shelby?

[tfkfan44]

he believed that lex and kara was working together, so he assumed kara would be in the mansion.

Or he was just looking for the crytsal he thought lex stole and carried the handcuffs just in case

[Azurewrath]

Originally posted by MR F
I'd say that this ep was one of the more exciting episodes in season 7, but it is not without its mysteries. Some of these are already being talked about, but I figured I'd just get these ??? off my chest.

1. Kara wearing a pink polo and tight jeans...not only was it unusual, but non-existent in 1986, her fashion outlook was more 2002+.

2. The silver CRT TV in 1986 was well...too modern as TVs back in the day were still fairly big and bulky with small screens and had wood accent finishes, TV is about 1994+.

3. How did Kara know that the camera was a camera on the spot? Lucky guess, study Earth before, or Kryptonians also had Polaroids?

4. How did Clark find the crystal?

5. Does Kara know about Clark's possession of the crystal?

6. Why didn't Clark question how Lana knew that Kara was in the Luthor mansion?

7. What happened to agent Carter? Most will say he died, but wouldn't the government look into his death?

8. The government lab equipment was totalled, another Luthor hair brain scheme to cover up, seems hard to me, even for a rich guy if it is a secret high priority government lab?

9. When Kara barged into the lab, I'm pretty sure for such a secret and important lab that there would be cameras to watch her, unless she disabled them.

10. What happened to the lab tech guy? Did he also get silenced? Or just turn a blind eye to Kara, his destroyed lab, and missing boss?

11. This isn't really specific to this episode, but all the characters just assume that Clark and Kara sneaked out quickly and silently while in conversation...in under a second, umm...

12. Lex saw Kara broke into his mansion, then got arrested in K-cuffs while in pain, is he just going to assume she got winded, or is there something to her and her *possible* abilities?

13. How does hammering your fist into someone's chest bring them back to life? Usually it requires some electricity or other matter to start the nervous system, circulatory system, etc. It's like hammering your TV when it isn't working and hopefully it will work again.


4: Jimmy told him and Chloe what Kara told him not to tell, which led him to it.
5: No.
6: he was in a hurry to save his cousin?
7: Wait for next episode.
8: How is this a loose end? YOU don't think the Luthors can fix something up, so it must be wrong?
9: Maybe it's confidential, aka no cameras or video footage allowed in?
10: Think of it for him. Some sketchy girl stole his wallet and got info out of him, came back, asked more questions, he's freaked the hell out and doesn't want to lose his job, he thinks she got someone to break in and take it.
11: It's kind of a superman joke, Clark randomly leaving. If you don't get it, maybe it's time to stop watching.
12: I can't read Lex's mind, but Lex thinks she has a secret too, and does he go around telling the camera everything about Clark? No, Lex is going to keep quiet and find more evidence. Once again, stop nitpicking stupid crap.
13: Her ribcage is strong enough that a train wouldn't scratch her, Clark would have to put pressure on her to make her heart beat, I'm guessing?

I honestly think you're looking way too much into stuff, remember, it's a TV show for entertainment, not something you have to study every detail trying to find something wrong with, get over it, watch the show, or stop watching it if you hate everything so much.

Edit: Most of your recent posts are about ejaculating, so i can honestly just say you're a troll.

[StealthyMakoto]

Well for #13... ever seen CPR? You know, the chest compressions? For her, it'd take a super-strength version to start her heart again, so... there you go.

[MR F]

Well who said I hated the show? If I hated it, I would have stopped watching it long ago and wouldn't be in this discussion. I find an aspect of my entertainment is finding the flaws in shows, so what if I'm a critic? Who can honestly say that they haven't had their doubts about the shows/movies they like? Even die hard fans of a film franchise still go to a movie, and despite complaints they enjoy the product, simply because they were entertained, whether it be the storyline, SFX, or whatever floats their boat.

This is afterall, a forum where people can discuss the happenings and topics related to the show, whether it be flaws, praise, or just jokes. I have my way of trying to catch errors while following the episode, while you just watch the show for what it presents itself as, if you think that everyone needs to ignore what's on the sideline and just see something black and white; otherwise calling them a hater, then you are a shallow person.

If someone said something like "Hey, I didn't like how Clark did this, it doesn't make sense", would you hound them and believe that they were out to get the show specifically? In short, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, including you and I.

I started this topic to see the different thoughts and answers from people, to get different views and compare them with my own, because these plotholes probably wouldn't be explained otherwise, so it's better to get some answers than nothing at all.

As for my posts, like I said, everyone is free to voice their own thoughts, and I added those comments as harmless jokes to diversify this community. But if you've been eyeing them and interpreting them as show-bashing offensive statements, then I would say you have to be more open to others, rather than being fixated with the narrow thinking that if someone criticizes or disagrees with what's presented that they are trolls.

[LexLuv180]

Originally posted by MR F


6. Why didn't Clark question how Lana knew that Kara was in the Luthor mansion?


12. Lex saw Kara broke into his mansion, then got arrested in K-cuffs while in pain, is he just going to assume she got winded, or is there something to her and her *possible* abilities?


They answered six. Clark was telling her at the end he was glad she still had her connections at the mansion. Therefore, she just lied on how. As for 12, he never saw her handcuffs, she was facing toward him in pain

[MR F]

Originally posted by StealthyMakoto
Well for #13... ever seen CPR? You know, the chest compressions? For her, it'd take a super-strength version to start her heart again, so... there you go.

Ahah, stupid me, I forgot about chest compressions and the whole mouth-to-mouth thing, I've been watching House too much, where every person going under is dealt with defibs, :p

Come to think of it, I bet the doctors in House don't do basic CPR for fear of receiving any possible unknown illnesses, since every ep is about catching a mystery condition.

[Azurewrath]

Originally posted by MR F
Well who said I hated the show? If I hated it, I would have stopped watching it long ago and wouldn't be in this discussion. I find an aspect of my entertainment is finding the flaws in shows, so what if I'm a critic? Who can honestly say that they haven't had their doubts about the shows/movies they like? Even die hard fans of a film franchise still go to a movie, and despite complaints they enjoy the product, simply because they were entertained, whether it be the storyline, SFX, or whatever floats their boat.

This is afterall, a forum where people can discuss the happenings and topics related to the show, whether it be flaws, praise, or just jokes. I have my way of trying to catch errors while following the episode, while you just watch the show for what it presents itself as, if you think that everyone needs to ignore what's on the sideline and just see something black and white; otherwise calling them a hater, then you are a shallow person.

If someone said something like "Hey, I didn't like how Clark did this, it doesn't make sense", would you hound them and believe that they were out to get the show specifically? In short, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, including you and I.

I started this topic to see the different thoughts and answers from people, to get different views and compare them with my own, because these plotholes probably wouldn't be explained otherwise, so it's better to get some answers than nothing at all.

As for my posts, like I said, everyone is free to voice their own thoughts, and I added those comments as harmless jokes to diversify this community. But if you've been eyeing them and interpreting them as show-bashing offensive statements, then I would say you have to be more open to others, rather than being fixated with the narrow thinking that if someone criticizes or disagrees with what's presented that they are trolls.

I think it's one thing to point out things that happened you don't like, but pointing out each and every inconsistancy is another.

I understood "loose ends" as that there was no way of explaining them, but every single one could be explained except the ones from the past flashback.

I have no idea how you enjoy shows by watching them and pointing out everything you don't think is right, I think you should watch the show for other reasons, it's much more satisfying than pointing out it's flaws, but that's just me.

Also, you can't post a bunch of stuff about creaming yourself or whatever and not expect people to think you're serious here.

Edit: For 13, I'm sure Kara didn't have Lupus anyways.

House joke ._.

[red_cape_7]

im gonna go with this is a television show set in a fictional universe so we just overlook most things. there were a few big ones but take the hour that smallville is on to escape from thinking too much!

[chantal]

Originally posted by MR F
Ahah, stupid me, I forgot about chest compressions and the whole mouth-to-mouth thing, I've been watching House too much, where every person going under is dealt with defibs, :p


You must not watch Lost. How outrageous was it for Dr. Jack to revive recently hanged Charlie by just hammering on his chest?

Maybe a Kryptonian thump on the chest includes some Kryptonian energy transference?

[MR F]

To put in a general example into this, many comic/franchise fans hang on and study every scene and bit of detail in their desired publications, the faults they find they go to other like-minded people and debate, it's one of the things they do. Such examples would be the typical Star Wars fan, they watch the movie, learn more about the storyline, then discuss the pros and cons about the movie, as stereotypical as it may be, it's true and many find entertainment in this. While I don't consider myself as fanatical as that, it is one of my characteristics to find flaws while watching whatever it is I'm watching, like you said yourself, "that's just me", I observe these things whether you find them pointless or not.

While everyone could assume and piece together explanations to the uncertain, the point of this is to see what other people thought up of and compare or enlighten to your own thoughts. Another would be to get plausible answers if one doesn't immediately come to mind, like how I completely forgot about the CPR option in my previous post. I don't assume that if I thought of an explanation, that everyone else was thinking the same thing.

Well from the way I see it, in the 2000's (even since the 70's and before), most of the time if someone comments with some dirty comment, it is regarded as a joke or shrugged off, from TV series to movies like American Pie and what not. I find that the general public grown accustomed to this way of thinking and merely blocks it off, think of all the advertisements you see on TV with scantily clad women or buff men, going so far as to directly advertise ****** and other gadgets in the middle of the day. Unless you've been raised in a highly conservative family or have been living under a rock for decades, then only few would actually take my comments for their original and direct meanings. This is supposed to be a casual discussion forum to lay back and chat, not a classroom with dictation and orders to follow.


Originally posted by chantal
You must not watch Lost. How outrageous was it for Dr. Jack to revive recently hanged Charlie by just hammering on his chest?

Maybe a Kryptonian thump on the chest includes some Kryptonian energy transference?

Yeah, you're right, I don't watch Lost (well not anymore). My friends criticize me about it since they all do, I just find that being lost on an island for season after season is kind of funny (if you're going to bash me about this too and failure to overlook things, then do as you will, ;) ). When are they going to be found?!

I guess the K-energy transfer could be very much plausible, these Kryptonians can do whatever and always seem to have an endless bag of tricks in the series, like how Clark could see into Kara's vision just by touching one of the nodes, while Kara had to be chained and fully hooked up :cool: .

[Silent Kal]

Sorry gang, I have to side with Mr. F on this, in general if not specifically.

I watch the show for entertainment. I love it, it's my favorite. but I don't shut off my brain when I do. I'll accept a lot of things, but if the show is internally inconsistent, it starts to bug me, because I think, someone should have caught that earlier. That's why there are teams of writers, directors, editors, etc. Because when you're telling a story in which a character does something, moves from A to B, you need to at least try to explain why. Just throwing your hands up and saying it's just a TV show is not good enough.

What's next, guys? "Next week, Clark meets Guppy, the talking Kryptofish, who helps him fight giant krypto-gorillas escaped from Lex's private zoo. Clark can fight them off using Yellow Kryptonite, which turns him into a SUPER GORILLA too!!! SHHHHH--don't question it, fans, it's just a TV show!!!"

I criticize because I believe in what this show CAN be. And just like Clark, I keep waiting for it to step up and reach that level of awesome potential. And right now, like Clark, it's just treading water.