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inperfectmemory
11-01-2007, 07:27 PM
After Lionel and Lana's last encounter... why did he stand up for her to Lex? Ideas?

Coyote
11-01-2007, 07:31 PM
Lionel likes Lana. He thinks she is a real Luthor and still part of the family.

Bruce Knight
11-01-2007, 07:36 PM
he likes her obviously thats why he warned her at the end of action not to slip into darkness

,and i see lionel has gone back too being the good guy wonder how long that will last, i like how lex said i learn it from you dad throwing how bad a husband he was back into his face,dont get me wrong i liked lionel when i thought he really wanted to be good at the end of season 5 and most of season 6 but what he did in action just set me off track i just dont feel the same way

Alexander III
11-01-2007, 07:37 PM
He'd rather have Lana as his son, oops, I mean his daughter...ah wutever Lana's weird. So is Lionel.

ChlarkMe
11-01-2007, 07:38 PM
I don't think he was sticking up for Lana. He despises her, but he does know the part Lex paid in driving her over the edge. Lionel loves to play with Lex and that was what he was doing.

I think Lionel would like to see Lana put away after what she did. Keeping in mind the fact that Lionel beat that woman to death and Lana's role in it I can't see him having any sympathy whatsoever for her. He might even like a little revenge and I expect when she is no longer with Clark he will have it.

D.M.A.
11-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by ChlarkMe
I don't think he was sticking up for Lana. He despises her, but he does know the part Lex paid in driving her over the edge. Lionel loves to play with Lex and that was what he was doing.

I think Lionel would like to see Lana put away after what she did. Keeping in mind the fact that Lionel beat that woman to death and Lana's role in it I can't see him having any sympathy whatsoever for her. He might even like a little revenge and I expect when she is no longer with Clark he will have it.
Agreed,lionel will get his revenge when she's no longer wit clark.But he was definitely toyin wit lex,even when good he's still the MB.

xrayvision
11-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Like I said last week, Lionel is starting to become her father figure.

Coyote
11-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Lionel is probably Lana's real daddy instead of Henry Small.

xrayvision
11-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Hahaha. No wonder she is so deranged.

kentfamily
11-01-2007, 09:10 PM
I dont think lionel ever despised her. not one in any episodes. i think lionel became good after his recovery from liver disease. when clark was in his body and it healed him. remember that episode? lionel was jail and the doctor told him he recovered 100%. plus, jor el took over his body at one point,too. lionel saw the light. but, that doesnt mean he will harm clark or lana. what really bothers lionel is that lana still have her luthor instincts.
i think lex will try to kill lana one day. he did kill all his wives after they deceived him.
lionel will try to protect lana from that.

and lionel sort of helped lana cover up the kidnapping incident. lionel had to kill marilyn because lex would probably had marilyn kept in his lab and tortured her and made a super soldier out of her after he gets all the information she knew about lana's intentions on destroying lex......

LoisJoanneKent
11-01-2007, 09:10 PM
Well, the writers need someone to stick up for pinky..I mean Lana! Haven't you guys noticed that everyone wants her dead, permanently? Even Tom Welling seems to be bored with her character!!

Jephael
11-01-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by kentfamily
jor el took over his body at one point,too. lionel saw the light.

Something tells me Jor-El never stopped controlling Lionel's body. However, there are those moments where the "real" Lionel breaks out of the shell, hence the moment he killed Marylin.

Nunn
11-01-2007, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by kentfamily
i think lex will try to kill lana one day. he did kill all his wives after they deceived him.
lionel will try to protect lana from that.

Lex never killed either of his first two wives. Desiree, tried to kill him and was stopped by Clark. We can presume she was taken away to Belle Reeve or some other instituion after that. Helen, he confronted, after she tried and almost suceeded killing him, and she pulled a gun on him, tried to kill him again, then willngly parachuted out of the nose diving plane. So he has no dead wives on his slate. The way things are going, if he does kill Lana, it will probably be self-defense.

and lionel sort of helped lana cover up the kidnapping incident. lionel had to kill marilyn because lex would probably had marilyn kept in his lab and tortured her and made a super soldier out of her after he gets all the information she knew about lana's intentions on destroying lex...... [/QUOTE]

Lionel wasn't in his right mind when he bludgeoned Marilyn to death. He'd been imprisoned and tortured for what we can only assume to be weeks and he snapped in the heat of the moment. Add that she was about to shoot his son and you can understand the overreaction. Lex had no interest in Marilyn. Does he put people in 33.1 for extensive pot growing skills? Is that a meteor ability?

Even though Lionel is working against Lex, he still has paternal instincts. Even if they're entirely screwed up ones.

He was pushing Lex's buttons by mentioning Lana and he was doing a good job of it. He knows Lana is scheming. He probably suspected she had something up her sleeve before her faux-death. Remember it was his pro-active planning that got Lex off the hook for her murder, with the man he'd paid to take the wrap.

chantal
11-01-2007, 09:42 PM
Lionel could also have been worried that Lex will go down the same dark revenge path that Lana is on, and wants to steer him off it. And, for the moment, protecting Lana is protecting Clark.

Besides, it's another source of conflict between Lex and Lionel, which looks like being the new theme, or, rather, a new variation on an old theme.

uhhuhhim
11-01-2007, 10:02 PM
Lana has never really interfered or caused trouble in Lionel's life...The question is why wouldn't he stick up for her?

chantal
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
Lana has never really interfered or caused trouble in Lionel's life...The question is why wouldn't he stick up for her?

SAY WHAT?!?!?!?!? Lana just kidnapped and basically tried to kill Lionel! Isn't that just a little bit troublesome? She also tried to get Lionel's son executed for a crime he didn't commit. How much more trouble could someone cause?

Karafan
11-01-2007, 10:49 PM
It is so out of character for Lionel to take Lana's side over Lex. Despite all the heated words between them they still care fo each other. I am tired of Lana playing the victim. Nobody forced Lana to have sex with Lex. She seemed to enjoy it. I know Lex did some wrong things to keep her but she is not innocent in all this and I hate that she is lying to Clark. I wish she would go away!

Atomic girl
11-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Maybe Lionel feels some guilt over blackmailing her to marry Lex, and then using her as a spy?

Brizzle
11-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Atomic girl
Maybe Lionel feels some guilt over blackmailing her to marry Lex, and then using her as a spy?

I think Lionel feels a little bit responsible for Lana's deeds. I mean just think if he would have let her just not marry Lex then she wouldn't have doubts about him that she now has becuz he blackmailed her. Eventually she still would find out about the baby, but maybe things would of turned out differently. Either way she would still want revenge against Lex, but now she is messing with both Luthors which is very dangerous.

mrsmallfan
11-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by inperfectmemory
After Lionel and Lana's last encounter... why did he stand up for her to Lex? Ideas? I think Lionel is stirring up the pot. He may like Lana, but uses her to keep Lex in check. Lionel is just now learning how dangerous Lana could be.

paolinki25
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
I'd like to believe Lionel is just fooling everyone, and once again, his inner Luthor will come out. *crosses fingers*

Kriminal
11-02-2007, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by inperfectmemory
After Lionel and Lana's last encounter... why did he stand up for her to Lex? Ideas?

i dont see where he stood up for her. This is just lionel messing with lex like he always does.

CLanaF23
11-02-2007, 01:33 AM
cause he knows how bad lex and him messed up lana..he knows lana is a good person who is just lettin her hate get the best of her...

ginnyfan
11-02-2007, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by inperfectmemory
After Lionel and Lana's last encounter... why did he stand up for her to Lex? Ideas?

Did he. Seemed to me he stood against Lex's behavior. He did b*tch slap Lex last season for faking Lana's pregnancy and murdering her doctor. LOL!

DestinyAw8s
11-02-2007, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
Did he. Seemed to me he stood against Lex's behavior. He did b*tch slap Lex last season for faking Lana's pregnancy and murdering her doctor. LOL!

The "slap", IMO, was Lionel's way of chastising Lex regarding his shoddy handling of the crime scene and the disposal of the doctor's body. This ineptitude forced Lionel to, once again, step in and clean up his son's mess for him and, in effect, enforced Lionel's low opinion of how Lex handles his affairs.

As we all know, Lionel is Mr. Efficient at covering his tracks and leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else at manipulating people. He simply wants his son to get a grip on the way it's done. Come on, Lex.

I don't believe for a minute that Lionel cares a thing about Lana or what Lex did to her. Lionel is just pi**ed that he had to (in his view) fix Lex's mess once again by achieving what Lex was, apparently, unable to do on his own, ie, getting Lana to go through with the marriage. I doubt Lionel will waste much more time on Lana. He knows he only has to give her rope and she will hang herself with it.

I think Lionel is molding Lex into what he wants him to eventually be, and a big part of this is by "projecting" to Lex that he is way below par as he stands now. But there are subtle little hints that Lex might be on the right track, like when Lionel told him that he was becoming "expert" at hiding his projects. I think this was actually praise. And I think that Lex got that feeling, as well. I mean, I'm watching this whole convo with Lionel bashing Lex about his shortcomings, then, just bam!, right smack in the middle of his tirade, a compliment (of sorts)? Wow! No wonder Lex is so messed up. And I have no doubt that Lionel meant to play it that way too.

My hope is that Lionel will be the one to play the major role of conforming Lex Luthor into the maniacal menace that he is in the future. More than anyone else, Lionel is the key.

Anyway, that's my take on the MB of Smallville.

I just love JG's portrayal!

ShelbyKent
11-02-2007, 05:10 PM
Lionel sees how Lex's obssessions is driving him towards darkness. Perhaps he wants Lana to avoid the same fate?

I think in the end, Lionel is all about protecting Clark and his secret. Well that's what it seems like for now....

DarkChilde
11-02-2007, 06:22 PM
Remeber these words...

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

He warned Lana last episode. That being the equal to strike one.

xrayvision
11-02-2007, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
Lionel sees how Lex's obssessions is driving him towards darkness. Perhaps he wants Lana to avoid the same fate?

I think in the end, Lionel is all about protecting Clark and his secret. Well that's what it seems like for now....

I think Lionel feels guilty for Lana's current state since he forced Lana to marry Lex, which is what really accelerated Lana's arrival to the point she's at now. So he will become a parent figure to her and give her something she hasn't had since she was 3 years old---a father. Maybe that's why she always goes with the wrong men (the ones who aren't right for her) in her life. She had Nell for a good part of her life as a mother figure, but not a father figure. She had Henry Small for a little while, but that didn't last.

ginnyfan
11-02-2007, 06:40 PM
^That's very interesting xrayvision. I kinda hope that's what happens.

xrayvision
11-02-2007, 06:48 PM
It wouldn't surprise me. Lex seeing his father protecting his former best friend and ex-wife will not sit well with him.

LKent113
11-02-2007, 09:48 PM
I think Lionel sees Lana as a worthy opponent and he is impressed by it. He hides behind his tough eterior but as we saw in the Last episode, he better watch his back, she knows what she is doing. I think he is intrigued by what lana is doing, but even so he obviously will stick up for lex anyway since he is blood, no matter how much he dislikes him at the time.