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REebee52
11-01-2007, 07:11 PM
Let me get this straight. Actually let me get THESE straight....
1. Clark can be around ample amounts of kryptonite and me okay...
2. Kara can have it injected into her bloodstream and be okay as long as Clark pounds her chest...
3. Kryptonians knew there planet was being destroyed, had a portal to earth that apparently not too hard to get through, and STILL they got TWO ships off. How hard is it to notice and/or change that little fact? Even if only the ELs knew they would have just sent everybody through.... The whole point was that the destruction was a surprise that only Jor El knew about....
4. Jor El made Brainiac?! That's kind of cool actually....

superhippie2000
11-01-2007, 07:15 PM
ya well clark is getting stronger and can deal with it better but still makes him weak.

yup.


they said it was the last portal so they could go back once it was closed.


yup. but i guess brainiac backfired.

Sub Snake
11-01-2007, 07:18 PM
Spec:
Brainiac probably went haywire.
Idk wtf the hell chest pounding this was about. Maybe "Super Krpytonian CPR" lol.
Maybe Jor El knew not all kryptonians could be trusted and it would only destroy earth. so he sent his son.

erikamichelle614
11-01-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by superhippie2000
ya well clark is getting stronger and can deal with it better but still makes him weak.


yea, he does get stronger over time..

like in the Superman Returns movie, superman only sweat when he was near it, it did make him weaker, but he could tolerate before he was stabbed.

and in MEMORIA, clark was submerged and it had the same effect as it did to Kara. the memory thing and clark didn't die. the stuff in kara's blood was only partially kryptonite (i think)

Ardiem3
11-01-2007, 07:32 PM
1. Clark can be around ample amounts of kryptonite and me okay...

> Hes becoming more and more tolerate around it, thats why he was able to still have some strength to push Agent Carter instead of just lying there.

2. Kara can have it injected into her bloodstream and be okay as long as Clark pounds her chest...

> She flatlined actually and was only brought back due to Clark punching her chest to revive her.

3. Kryptonians knew there planet was being destroyed, had a portal to earth that apparently not too hard to get through, and STILL they got TWO ships off. How hard is it to notice and/or change that little fact? Even if only the ELs knew they would have just sent everybody through.... The whole point was that the destruction was a surprise that only Jor El knew about....

>They went through the portal because of the war and that they thought the planet would be destroyed, they didnt know that it was actually going to, just being cautious. Most of the Kryptonians were kind of stubborn and didnt want to believe Jor-El and thought that the war would resolve and that the planet would be ok in the long run.

4. Jor El made Brainiac?! That's kind of cool actually....

> Im not sure about this one but it will probably play out later this season after Brainiac returns.

MidgardDragon
11-01-2007, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by REebee52
Let me get this straight. Actually let me get THESE straight....
1. Clark can be around ample amounts of kryptonite and me okay...
2. Kara can have it injected into her bloodstream and be okay as long as Clark pounds her chest...

Same explanation as usual, not sure why people can't get this one straight. In the comics, TV shows, and movies, even within their own internal universes, Kryptonite has affected Superman differently on different occasions. Basically, GreenK effects him however much the story calls for, as long as it always effects him in some way. You can see different instances in Lois and Clark where he was effected differently buy it. In one instance he was around one piece and it just took away his powers. In another instance he was shot with a kryptonite bullet but managed to survive after being rescued (I believe by Lois). In the movies with the loose continuity between 1+2 and Returns we have Superman nearly dying in the pool with a piece tied around his neck, and mustering all his strength (to the point that it nearly kills him) to life an island filled with the stuff into outer space. In the comics, well, we don't even need to go into all the different times it's been stronger or weaker with no real explanation as to why, because it is what it is, the story dictates the strength of it just like it always has.

Superman86
11-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Well how can Clark be tolerant to a room full of kryptonite but in Fierce, he was stopped by a couple of pieces?

Mello Penelo
11-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Don't worry, even in the comics Kryptonite is suited to the situation. Sometimes it absolutely cripples Kryptonians. Other times they just get a headache.

Kal EL2380
11-01-2007, 09:11 PM
Probably different degrees of Radioactivity. Some pieces are more radioactive then others. It also explains why some people get powers while others don't.

jazzylg
11-01-2007, 09:14 PM
It was diluted, and wasn't full strenght.

legolazzz04
11-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Superman86
Well how can Clark be tolerant to a room full of kryptonite but in Fierce, he was stopped by a couple of pieces?

Maybe the kryptonite in Fierce was more "organic/natural" then the kryptonite in Lara. Anyways the kryptonite in Lara was in liquid form and they probably mixed it with other substances.

Thats my opinion why he was able to fight back a little compared to how he basically did nothing in Fierce.

Randy G.
11-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Don't worry, even in the comics Kryptonite is suited to the situation. Sometimes it absolutely cripples Kryptonians. Other times they just get a headache.

Yup! My thoughts exactly. :D
The Comics/ TV universes, are rather pliable. This way the rules/ facts can be shaped to fit the current storyline.

REebee52
11-01-2007, 09:50 PM
I know it affects him differently depending on the story. I just find that weird...
And I know it was supposed to be a cautionary device that Jor El set up in case the planet exploded. The story is: Jor El knows, makes a rocket in case he's right, sends rocket when it's almost too late. In Smallville its: Jor El sets up rocket in case planet explodes. Lara and Kara take different rocket and 'portal' to earth. And yet when Krypton does explode they only have time to send Kal El? My point is if they could get to earth easily, and had actually been on earth before, there should not have been a problem saving Kal El's whole family...
And don't mention that episode where Tom played Jor El on Earth. That wasn't necessissarily his plan in case his planet exploded, more like "I was in the neighborhood."

RedKalEL
11-02-2007, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by REebee52
Let me get this straight. Actually let me get THESE straight....
1. Clark can be around ample amounts of kryptonite and me okay...
2. Kara can have it injected into her bloodstream and be okay as long as Clark pounds her chest...
3. Kryptonians knew there planet was being destroyed, had a portal to earth that apparently not too hard to get through, and STILL they got TWO ships off. How hard is it to notice and/or change that little fact? Even if only the ELs knew they would have just sent everybody through.... The whole point was that the destruction was a surprise that only Jor El knew about....
4. Jor El made Brainiac?! That's kind of cool actually....

yea jor el made brianiac like the animated series. that's my favorite brianiac orgin it's cool and simple

Superman86
11-02-2007, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by RedKalEL
yea jor el made brianiac like the animated series. that's my favorite brianiac orgin it's cool and simple

I thought Jor-El was just trying to stop Brianiac in the animated series? I thought the governing body of Krypton created Brainiac to run the whole planet and they were too blind to see that it destroyed them?

Billy Jor-El
11-02-2007, 09:27 AM
Brainiac went psycho because he's pissed Shelby is being ignored....

thehenry89
11-02-2007, 09:30 AM
I have a queston, and maybe it's already been addressed. I'm curious as to how Clark could pound Kara's chest without making a gaping wound in her torso. she had Kryptonite in her blood stream I.V's were sticking out of her arms (which meant her skin was vunerable to pentration) and clark smacked her hard enough for the producers to spend money on the FX, so why is Kara still alive?

nightshadz
11-02-2007, 09:42 AM
It seems to me that while Clark really was affected by the Kryptonite in the lab, he faked his level of submissiveness. This is how Clark was able to get the Agent to confidently approach him and when the Agent was close enough, Clark took him out.

I could be wrong, but I would like to give Clark a little credit in his maturation from BDA to Superman.

Dor el
11-02-2007, 09:56 AM
Well, while we're asking questions, how come Jorel in the FOS has a strong British accent, yet the Jorel in Relic did not? Neither does Lara, Kara, and I didn't notice one with Zorel either (although I could have dozed off). How come only Jorel? I would think that members of the same family might have similar accents esp. the same guy in two different settings (Jorel).

ClarksNextGF
11-02-2007, 10:31 AM
Can someone re-please. I thought Zor-El made Braniac. not Jor-El, but maybe I heard it wrong in the episode last night.

And when I heard it (or thought I did) it made sence with Jor-El saying that Zor-El was the bad guy...

last man of krypton
11-02-2007, 10:43 AM
*sigh* I long for the days when Kryptonite used to mean something...

hansioux
11-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by REebee52
Let me get this straight. Actually let me get THESE straight....
1. Clark can be around ample amounts of kryptonite and me okay...
2. Kara can have it injected into her bloodstream and be okay as long as Clark pounds her chest...
3. Kryptonians knew there planet was being destroyed, had a portal to earth that apparently not too hard to get through, and STILL they got TWO ships off. How hard is it to notice and/or change that little fact? Even if only the ELs knew they would have just sent everybody through.... The whole point was that the destruction was a surprise that only Jor El knew about....
4. Jor El made Brainiac?! That's kind of cool actually....

1 and 2 oh well... i mean we can accept Lana's neck being tougher than steel, why can't we accept this?

3, they thought they could defeat ZOD. They certainly were winning, they closed down the portals so he wouldn't escape. But obviously ZOD'd rather destroy the entire planet than to accept defeat.

4. ZOD probably hacked BRAINIAC.