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Zooks
11-01-2007, 07:10 PM
i know it is consistent with STAS, but we got smallville confirmation that Jor-El created Brainiac, the BrainInteractive Construct to save krypton... i assume that we be explained further at one point.... since no backstory to brainiac was given in season 5...

Ardiem3
11-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Yea, that kind of confused me. Mabye it was created to go against Zod or something like that but Zod manipulated it for his own purpose so it, as well, turned against Jor-El.

redeem147
11-01-2007, 07:22 PM
It makes me wonder if Braniac is necessarily a villain all the time. Perhaps he's morally neutral depending on who is pulling the strings.

We shall not discuss, at this point, my personal interest in pulling James' strings.

iheartCK4eva
11-01-2007, 07:23 PM
i didnt even know this i missed the first 15 minutes...how do you guys know he created braniac

xrayvision
11-01-2007, 07:25 PM
The Visual Guide said the same thing. Now we finally have proof.

Mello Penelo
11-01-2007, 07:25 PM
It wasn't in the first 15 minutes. It was in the flashback. And Jor-El created Braniac. Not just on Smallville, but always. Lara said he did.

iheartCK4eva
11-01-2007, 07:26 PM
i must not have been paying attention when he said that

alienkinfolk
11-01-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Zooks
i know it is consistent with STAS, but we got smallville confirmation that Jor-El created Brainiac, the BrainInteractive Construct to save krypton... i assume that we be explained further at one point.... since no backstory to brainiac was given in season 5...

since they did some Kara back story it would only be fair that tptb do some brainiac back story,,(and i'm going to go on a limb and say this) ..siince that's a backstory that SV fans will actually care about.at least i will.

aqgalaxy
11-01-2007, 07:33 PM
We have to think for a second... my guess

Jor-El really did create Brainiac, however that system was corrupted by Zod's minion (Also by Zor-El too I dunno)

superspider02
11-01-2007, 07:34 PM
yea i thought in season 5 they said zod took control of brainic. I guess jor-el could have made it and then zod before he was traped in the phantom zone took control of it.

Mello Penelo
11-01-2007, 07:35 PM
Well, historically, Jor-El always created Braniac, but somewhere along the way, the programming gets messed up by some reason or another. Smallville's interpretation is Zod did it.

ClarksGal
11-01-2007, 07:50 PM
I hope they explain all that further, because this is a great storyline!!!!!

Bruce Knight
11-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
Yea, that kind of confused me. Mabye it was created to go against Zod or something like that but Zod manipulated it for his own purpose so it, as well, turned against Jor-El. yeah thats what i think happend since zod was jor -el's main nemisis, im guess zod wanted to use jor -els program as a weapon to most likly recreate krypton as he saw fit wich probaly started the civil war wich intern destroyed krypton

mistaguitarmasta
11-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Well, historically, Jor-El always created Braniac, but somewhere along the way, the programming gets messed up by some reason or another. Smallville's interpretation is Zod did it.

oh yeah! i remember that now! i saw it in Superman:TAS, now that you mention it

faz
11-01-2007, 08:35 PM
I also remember them mentioning a few seasons ago that they wanted to explore the whole Jor-El/Zod backstory at some point, because apparently it was supposed to parallel Clark and Lex's story, so if they do decide to go that route I'm sure they will explain at least part of the Brainiac story there.

Cychotec
11-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Well, historically, Jor-El always created Braniac, but somewhere along the way, the programming gets messed up by some reason or another. Smallville's interpretation is Zod did it.

Actually, historically, Brainiac is an Android from a planet called Colu. And his only link to Krypton at all was that he shrunk and stole Kandor for his collection shortly before Krypton exploded. His Kryptonian back story actually originated with STAS. I prefer the krptonian computer story myself, makes it more personal than just some random robot collecting hot wheels ;)

Bruce Knight
11-01-2007, 09:09 PM
plus he used to be green skinned too didnt he lol i also prefer the artifical intellagence story better

Zooks
11-01-2007, 09:18 PM
i feel that the story they will go with is the STAS version in that Brainiac became self-aware and was not concerned about krypton. zod may have corrupted some of it, but i do not expect the next brainiac we see to continue trying to free zod as that task was completed. this episode had a few nice nods to continuity, with the brainiac nod, mentioning the events of Relic, short discussion of Summerholt, etc.

Odysseus
11-01-2007, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Zooks
i feel that the story they will go with is the STAS version in that Brainiac became self-aware and was not concerned about krypton. zod may have corrupted some of it, but i do not expect the next brainiac we see to continue trying to free zod as that task was completed. this episode had a few nice nods to continuity, with the brainiac nod, mentioning the events of Relic, short discussion of Summerholt, etc.

Yeah definitely. I like the STAS version of Brainiac's origin a lot. I'm guessing the Smallville spin on it is that Zod had something to do with Brainiac going against Jor-El

Bruce Knight
11-01-2007, 09:30 PM
didnt they say a while back that clark and lex will have to team up to stop an old enemy could brainiac be it?

Cychotec
11-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Zooks
i feel that the story they will go with is the STAS version in that Brainiac became self-aware and was not concerned about krypton. zod may have corrupted some of it, but i do not expect the next brainiac we see to continue trying to free zod as that task was completed. this episode had a few nice nods to continuity, with the brainiac nod, mentioning the events of Relic, short discussion of Summerholt, etc.

Perhaps, but why would Brainiac be concerned with Zod and his goals? If he did become self aware what would be in it for him? Zod must have had some administrative control over him other wise why wouldn't Fine just kill Clark and Zods disciples leave Zod in the PZ and take Earth for his own?

LexLuv180
11-02-2007, 02:54 PM
I thought in the first movie that's the way it was shown too? I know I've read it in comics.

UpandAtom
11-02-2007, 03:29 PM
If Jor-El created Brianiac, then in a way Brianiac is his son, so he and Clark would be brothers almost.

Cychotec
11-02-2007, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by LexLuv180
I thought in the first movie that's the way it was shown too? I know I've read it in comics.

you are referring to Brainiac? Brainiac hasn't been in any of the movies.


Originally posted by UpandAtom
If Jor-El created Brianiac, then in a way Brianiac is his son, so he and Clark would be brothers almost.

Hey hey, nice call, that'd be cool if they acknowledge that fact.