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xrayvision
11-01-2007, 06:16 PM
Lionel said he kept the feds off Clark after the 2nd meteor shower yet moments before, he lied to Lionel about Kara. I don't know what to think about that scene between Clark & Lionel. There was a very dark tone, like Lionel couldn't be trusted.

Clark was also acting like Lex with his "tell me everything you know" statement.

Ardiem3
11-01-2007, 07:09 PM
Although hes friends and close to Lionel in ways, he still cant trust him 100% I suppose for he is still the father of Lex and something may slip out.

Randy G.
11-01-2007, 07:10 PM
Well, it appears to me that the cat is out of the bag now, since Lionel came in & rescued Clark & Kara. :\

lastsonfan
11-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Clark really should trust Lionel now. Lionel has helped him so much in the last 2 seasons. So much bad history that Clark just can't ever fully trust him. Plus, Lionel may know when Clark is lying about something Kryptonian because of his connection to Jor-El. Clark could have been honest about Kara being Kryptonian and just not say anything about the crystal.

redeem147
11-01-2007, 07:25 PM
I wouldn't trust Lionel further than I can throw him. Which, considering I'm 5'2", isn't very far.

I wouldn't hug him, either. Ick.

Krypton935
11-01-2007, 07:28 PM
I wouldn't trust him with everything but the fact that Kara is from Krypton shouldn't be hidden from him. IDK ck just doesn't want to trust him.

xrayvision
11-01-2007, 08:46 PM
I wanted for them to have a scene between Clark and Lionel at the end showing Lionel's reaction to Clark's lie earlier on.

Alexander III
11-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Lionel can't be TRUSTED, it's soo damn hard to read that guy, he's the MASTER of disguise! I wanna see him on the world poker tournament table. W/ his insane game face he'll prolly win the table.

Coyote
11-01-2007, 09:21 PM
It doesn't matter if Clark tries to lie to Lionel. Lionel is so much smarter than Clark that he would easily know Clark was lying and figure out what was going on anyway. Lionel probably already knows more about Kara than Clark does.

D.M.A.
11-01-2007, 09:51 PM
yea it doesnt matter now since he prob figure it out,but lionel knew the moment clark lied.Thats why he asked if it was his adopted or biological father side

Rafael122
11-01-2007, 09:54 PM
When Clark said adopted, I cringed. Why lie when it's so obvious she's not from Earth?

chantal
11-01-2007, 09:55 PM
I think Clark was lying to Lionel to keep information about Kara's actions from getting to MM, since Lionel seems able to summon MM like Jor El could. Maybe Clark was regretting that he seemed to side so quickly with MM against Kara.

SV'S_immortal_hero
11-02-2007, 09:39 AM
im watching the scene just now

lionel mentioned that a family member of the kent family turned up, clark said it was his cousin kara

lionel then asked which side of the family kara came from clark said his fathers (2 to choose from)

lionel then asked which father, there was a moment of silence so it wasnt clarks fault for saying his adoptive father in response lionel was acting as though he didnt remember anything about kryptonians with all that knowledge jor-el gave him

thehenry89
11-02-2007, 09:41 AM
i was alittle confused at Clark's distrust of lionel. the man just had a bear trap strapped to his hand for god knows how long, he knows everything about Clark already and he protected Clarks secret for two years.

All about Clark
11-02-2007, 10:23 AM
I don't blame Clark for lying to the MB, however, he did it so poorly Lionel knew it was a lie. And obviously he knows now that it was a lie and really I don't think he blames Clark for that. I really think Lionel understands.

spidey001
11-02-2007, 10:55 AM
so true... he should trust him. i think lionel proved his loyalty. especialy on the topic of interest lionel is already knowledgable.
if he doesn't trust anyone how can they help him.

CLSmith
11-02-2007, 10:56 AM
Well Clark's had more than enough trouble with the various Kryptonian artifacts as is.

The spaceship key dealie for nearly 2 seasons on and off.

Then there's the stones from season four.

Then let's not forget the Brainiac ship in season five..etc etc etc.

The less folks know about the Lara DNA crystal the better.

-cs™

Theshadow129x
11-02-2007, 10:57 AM
I think Clark doesnt have the right to lie to the luthor's i mean i would trust them. especially lex! all he has done it try to protect Kara and Clark!

BadToad
11-02-2007, 11:01 AM
Yes, I think Clark has every single right in the world to keep things from Lionel. Just as I'm sure Lionel is continuing to keep things from Clark (or did I miss the scene where Lionel told Clark about Lana holding him hostage in the woods?)

Whatever Lionel appears to be right now, the fact remains that he has an extremely dark and shady past. Not that long ago, Clark was finding out that Lionel was issuing death threats towards him to get Lana to do what he wants.

I think Clark is in an uneasy alliance with Lionel out of necessity (mostly caused by Jor-El using Lionel as an oracle). But I much prefer to see Clark using caution when dealing with Lionel.

There's no doubt Lionel has been a big help. He's also been the very face of evil. Thats a pretty tricky combination to deal with, and Clark needs to walk a fine line.

Coyote
11-02-2007, 11:08 AM
Lionel is Clark's real daddy. Now that we know Lara was on Earth back in the 80s it's obvious that Lionel was hitting it. Maybe Lionel has been the real Jor-El all along and that weirdo Clark has been talking to is actually Zor-El.

hansioux
11-02-2007, 11:11 AM
Lionel knew anyway. I think Clark can just give up on lying to Lionel. If he wanted bad things for Clark, he already knew enough to tear him apart.

Now that memory device can be used on Lionel by someone, and that is pretty dangerous.

Superbeard
11-02-2007, 11:17 AM
At first I thought Clark was telling Lionel the truth about Kara. The way he said "my adoptive father" almost seemed to have a little wink-wink tone to it. He nodded and smirked to him when he said it, and I thought he was implying he was talking about Lionel, being an emissary for Jor-El, being his "adoptive father." It seemed way too casual for Clark to be lying. Heh, you can always tell when Clark is lying. When we can't tell, well in a show as predictable as Smallville, that's just damn confusing.

Before that, I was amused because it sounded like Clark and Lionel were exchanging small talk about some of Clark's alien extended family being in town. "Oh hey, I hear your cousin's in town!"

theWatcher
11-02-2007, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by lastsonfan
Clark really should trust Lionel now. Lionel has helped him so much in the last 2 seasons. So much bad history that Clark just can't ever fully trust him. Plus, Lionel may know when Clark is lying about something Kryptonian because of his connection to Jor-El. Clark could have been honest about Kara being Kryptonian and just not say anything about the crystal. Clark does seem a little protective when it comes to Kara and that is sweet but he should have a little more faith in Lionel. Lionel has been like a dad here of late and has shown he can be trusted when it comes to the really important situations. Here's a thought could Clark be testing Lionel, seeing what he knows?

quietone
11-02-2007, 11:58 AM
Just because Lionel is being helpful doesn't mean he can be trusted. Thankfully, Clark seems to know this and is treading carefully where Lionel is concerned.

LunaItaliana
11-02-2007, 12:39 PM
I think Clark has every right to be careful with Lionel, but the guy knows his secret and Kara is not that simple to hide if you already know what to search. IMO that lie was unnecessary, Lionel is Jor- el's emissary and he could've known about her. What I really don't understand is why that hug? They've never been "close" in that way, a handshake would've been more realistic.

neo0721
11-02-2007, 04:47 PM
they were in the luthercorp building maybe he was worried about cameras and lex or his men stumbling across the conversation. they way he looked at him made it seem that he was hinting the truth to him but was being discreet about it

All about Clark
11-02-2007, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by LunaItaliana
What I really don't understand is why that hug? They've never been "close" in that way, a handshake would've been more realistic.

Wouldn't you have just died if you saw Lex witnessing the hug. Lex doesn't even hug his father.