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xrayvision
10-31-2007, 05:27 PM
Post about the episode's ratings after it airs.

ClarkyBoy14
11-01-2007, 03:41 PM
SV fell to the 3rd most watched show in primetime on CW the first time this season on the week of 10/22-10/28.

1. America's Next Top Model 4.74 million viewers
2. Friday Night SmackDown! 4.69
3. Smallville 4.65
4. Beauty and the Geek 3.25
5. Supernatural 3.18
6 (t). Reaper and The Game 2.61
8. Gossip Girl 2.54
9. Everybody Hates Chris 2.52
10. Aliens in America 2.36
11. Girlfriends 2.21
12. ANTM (R) 1.44
13. Life Is Wild 1.08
14. AIA (R) 0.75
15. CW Now 0.70

--

I was hoping "Lara" would do well, but w/ the way the CW promoted it, IDK.

Has SV received any extra publicity lately for tonight's episode (besides from TV Guide)?

MidgardDragon
11-01-2007, 09:08 PM
Yeah hopefully enough online fans will have spread the word about the mythos-centricness of this episode, and the fact that Helen Slater guest stars, because The CW certainly didn't promote that aspect AT ALL. It really really sucks that they didn't, too, this could've been one of the highest rated episodes of the past couple of years with proper advertising.

legolazzz04
11-01-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Yeah hopefully enough online fans will have spread the word about the mythos-centricness of this episode, and the fact that Helen Slater guest stars, because The CW certainly didn't promote that aspect AT ALL. It really really sucks that they didn't, too, this could've been one of the highest rated episodes of the past couple of years with proper advertising.

I agree. They never advertise the episodes hear in Miami until the day of the episode. I just don't understand why they can't seem to promote earlier in the week.

:confused:

uhhuhhim
11-01-2007, 09:48 PM
Some of us just need to storm their offices an take over the promotion department. I can't believe they're this lazy about an episode like this with the original Supergirl...It blows my mind...

Best Episode - 321
11-02-2007, 07:30 AM
Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.88 million

Jack-El49
11-02-2007, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
Some of us just need to storm their offices an take over the promotion department. I can't believe they're this lazy about an episode like this with the original Supergirl...It blows my mind...

I think the CW views using their promo dollars on Smallville akin to making beds in a burning house. Without the promo dollars, it remains the highest-viewed drama and occasionally, the highest-viewed program on the CW. So why advertise?

I see them promoting their stupid Gossip Girl series all the time - they are trying hard to polish that turd and make it better looking than it is in hopes they'll have something popular to air once Season 8 of Smallville has ended.

Best Episode - 321
11-02-2007, 08:03 AM
The Overnights are in:

Survivor: China (8.2 rating/13 share)

Ugly Betty (7.3/12)

Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (5.5/ 9)

My Name is Earl (4.9/ 8)

Smallville (3.3/ 5)

More detailed Fast National ratings will be out at 12 ET.

JEWCY
11-02-2007, 10:31 AM
since last week was a 3.4/5 and this week was a 3.3/5, people should probably expect a slight decline from last week-still solid imo

LunaItaliana
11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by JEWCY
since last week was a 3.4/5 and this week was a 3.3/5, people should probably expect a slight decline from last week-still solid imo

Well I'd say you're right...

Smallville with a typical 4.31 million viewers and a 1.7/ 5 in the demo.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/21710238

Absentee
11-02-2007, 11:41 AM
CW needs to promote Smallville better.

This was a huge mythology episode and all I saw in the previews were Kara.

paolinki25
11-02-2007, 11:48 AM
One of the lowest, I believe so far? Wonder how "Wrath" will do next week. I get the feeling the numbers will be pretty similar to this one.

SparkleforSmallville
11-02-2007, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the Link. I blame lack of promotion!
The Promos didn't even show H.S./ Lara!:(
It was an AWESOME episode, it gained almost a Mil. viewers at 8:30.
Wonder what that's about?

FiReFTW
11-02-2007, 11:51 AM
WTF this episode can be up with the TOP episodes of smallville season 7 or season 6 combined , and only SO FEW ??? OMFG ... Those ppl are really so ... I won't say what ... CAN'T THEY KNOW HOW TO PROMOTE THEIR SHOW

bball44j
11-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Average ratings for an awesome episode :(

mctor
11-02-2007, 01:04 PM
Lara was an amazing episode, the ratings are very disappointing!!!!!!!!:(

It really seems like the CW is making smallville choose between special effects and promotion this year, when really there should be both. The CW should be promoting the hell out of smallville, it is there responsibility not the shows!!!

Spirit Detective
11-02-2007, 01:13 PM
I'm really disappointed with the CW and the lack of promotion. They obviously care more about advertising Gossip Girl.

Dannyblue1
11-02-2007, 01:24 PM
The CW was sort of counting on Gossip Girl to be their big hit of the season. As much buzz as it was getting before the season started, they really expected it to be doing better than any other series on the network. And they haven't given up on that idea, even though GG hasn't performed nearly as well as they hoped. So they are going to push it, and push it, and make it into a hit. Even if it means not pushing other shows as much as they should.

curiosity
11-02-2007, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.88 million

Well, IMO......the 2 highest rated shows were both Superman/ Clark fighting Superman/ Clark.

The last two episodes were promoted as Lana centered, and then Kara centered. Even though the episodes weren't bad, I guess some people don't like that.

I think next week, even though it seems like a lot of Lana, looks like Clark's included.


Originally posted by LunaItaliana
Well I'd say you're right...

Smallville with a typical 4.31 million viewers and a 1.7/ 5 in the demo.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/21710238

I check this board because I'm hoping for another season, and this is sad. How did it go down so much in 2 episodes?

Best Episode - 321
11-02-2007, 02:17 PM
Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.31 million


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.79 million

_______________________________

Half Hour Breakdown

8:00 SV 3,962,000
8:30 SV 4,659,000

9:00 SN 3,364,000
9:30 SN 3,204,000

dh1031
11-02-2007, 02:25 PM
Does anyone know if they will be releasing adjusted ratings for people that record the show then watch it via Tivo/DVR/etc. ???

ClarkyBoy14
11-02-2007, 03:33 PM
That's unfortunate. SV's numbers should have been in the high 4 millions to low 5 millions for last night's episode. And it would have been if the CW would have known how to promote it.

Dannyblue1
11-02-2007, 06:39 PM
The final rating for "Lara" is 4.38 million viewers, so it went up a bit from fast nationals.

Best Episode - 321
11-02-2007, 07:08 PM
SMALLVILLE, 2.7/4 (HH), 1.8/5, (A 18-49), 4,383,000 million, 2.0/6 (A 18-34)

______________________________

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.80 million

FiReFTW
11-02-2007, 08:03 PM
lmao

MidgardDragon
11-02-2007, 09:14 PM
That's ridiculous. Did we have any pre-emptions or sporting events in major markets? The promos were bad, as in they didn't even show what the episode was about, but everyone in the online fandom pretty much knew it was gonna be awesome. Surely something weird is up here.

ClarkyBoy14
11-02-2007, 10:42 PM
If there were any major pre-emptions, I think we would have seen the final number go down instead of up.

Hopefully, the CW will promote 7.08 properly. Maybe they were thinking that since most of the Zor-El/HS/Lara stuff didn't happen until the 4th act, viewers who tuned in just for that would be disappointed, and the CW would rather save the big promos for 7.08. :\

MidgardDragon
11-02-2007, 10:47 PM
It's just the weirdest decrease I've ever seen. It had a few major things going for it:

1) Action was very well-received by the fans

2) Helen Slater was a former Supergirl, thus important Guest Star

3) It was mythos heavy and delved further into Clark's backstory, which is always popular

4) We saw a full-on Krypton for the first time

Heck, I could go on and on. The only thing against it was the total lack of promotion. That didn't seem to hinder the premiere too much. Heck even Fierce went up in ratings and I don't recall being blown away by those promos. I do wonder why they completely neglected to mention the mythos element or Helen Slater's guest appearance, but even so, there was no reason for the ratings to drop quite that much.

Any major shows just come back on or gain a lot of viewers this past Thursday in the 8 PM slot? It's the only thing I can think of, considering how much this episode had going for it, for why the ratings managed to drop that much.

Poweranimals
11-02-2007, 11:52 PM
The online fandom is the minority. It had to be the promotions. Cause people had no reason to expect that this episode would be an more special than any other episode. I still wouldn't have anticipated a drop though.

CK&CK
11-03-2007, 12:30 AM
If I were being paid by the CW as an independent advisor (or more like a walk in fan who is being paid $50.00 bucks for an honest opinion by the CW big wigs) about how to handle the promotional campaign over their entire line of shows.....beginning with Smallville....here's what I would say with regards to this whole issue of Promotion in order to get RATINGS.

1. In Smallville you have a loyal fan base, that unless you do something STUPID.......actually, let me re-phrase that......unless you do something MONUMENTALLY STUPID.....these fans will continue to watch......and a number of them will still rationalize whatever it is....simply because it's "Superman"

2. Would you rather have several healthy shows as opposed to one borderline successful show?....Borderline when compared to other shows on other networks.....think about it....a show that would probably only do slightly better through promotion......Now, if the advertisment revenue warrants that increase....then by all means DO IT!.......You'll recoup your money and you can promote your other shows which NEED IT MORE. My opinion is that it's not worth it.....especially in light of such inferior writting on this show.....your better apt at this point to just keep the loyal fan base in tow with what your doing.

3. Spend money on getting better, even if not big name (probably better and cheaper that way), writters that will not only follow continuity....but will make it easier for all fans to suspend their belief......instead of having to swallow the absurdity of some of these episodes......especially with regards to character progression......especially Clark....make his progression to this so called destiny more realisitic and believable.....hell, don't listen to my opinion......but at least re-think it.......anything is better than everybody flying before this so called Icon....makes him look slow......like an idiot.......the only scenario dumber than that is the excuse....."He's not Superman yet".....which might still hold up if every Kryptonian wasn't flying before he was.......humm, I can see Krypto flying before Clark......now that would be funny.

4. Don't listen to most of these fans screaming for more promotion, most of them don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes.....which includes myself.....my advice is for you to gage everything and if it makes $ cents....then do it.......and if it doesn't......screw some of these fans......some of them will be the first to turn on you....regardless of whatever financial woes you have....a lot of them care only about themselves......that's not to say however, that you don't owe them something at times.....especially when you do crappy misleading tricks in order to get ratings. And especially for those who do really care about the story.....the story of Superman.....an American Icon.

5. Be careful when deciding what type of Legacy you leave......I can tell you that I haven't bought any of your season 6 DVD's , and I haven't watched your televised episodes for season 7....and I only frequent this board to stay up on how the atrocity is progressing.......prior to that.....I was always clamaring for anything Smallville........now?......, well, gentlemen.....I consider it a joke of a series........all these years of thinking this Clark Kent was a bright and noble boy......what a waste of time.....most of us all know him now for what type of T.V. character he really is........a slow brained hero.....a hero who we keep hearing..... will one day hold the title of greatest hero.....but that's all it will be.....a title.....not the truth of this story....not as you've told it.....the only turth here would be....that he's the most powerful hero.....But definitely NOT GREATEST.......because all this Clark's been capable of is sparking pretentious noble speaches from everyone around him.....most notably his parents......yes, PRETENTIOUS, GRAND, AND GLORIFIED speeches about the man he is becoming......but he only lives up to these speeches in brief little moments here and there...just before he does something stupid in order to erase all the progression.......BUT I DO have to commend you though......with regards to some new viewers and stand alone episodes...... this seems to work....and they'll probably keep coming back (More Ratings Baby!....to cancel out what you're losing!)......but once they become aquainted with the entire series as a whole.....well, besides realizing that Kryptonians are pretty much A$$holes bent on God like status............they'll not only realize that they're better than what this show is offering. but they'll also realize what a far superior race humans are when comparted to these Crazy Kryptonians......that is.......except for a few human that surf on this K-site.....I'll let you decide who.

But to repeat.....legacy is important.....it effects the past, present, and the future......(actually, I remember Lex uttering something similar......one of the better written scenes no doubt......and yet again a scene where someone is explaining important truths to the Kryptonian Moron).

The Past: I can't watch earlier season scenes with Clark....and not keep from uttering "Idiot"........I've tried....sometimes I wish I could erase the future episodes from my mind.....because I used to enjoy watching these scenes over, and over, and over......I used to watch that scene from "Rogue" where Johnathan was talking from behind the prison glass.....and I was so moved by the emotion between the two...not father and son by blood.......but by something far more powerful.......but now...in light of what Clark becomes.......I can't help thinking....."WHAT PRETENTIOUS CRAP". I'm seriously considering selling my DVD's.......I mean I just don't re-watch them anymore! I can't.........not without either getting annoyed......or simply laughing at the Clark Kent Character's expense.

The Present: Just not watching or spending money on it like I used to.......actually spending no money.......now that's a silver lining baby.

The Future: I've said this part before......once it's on film.....it's there 4 ever..........complete with the idiocy,cheesy-ness, and teenage sex just out of high school (okay for any other politically correct teenager in this world.....but not for an iconic Kent with supposed Morals.....not saying it's fair....but hey, look who raised him.....and it is Superman for heavens sake!....You lead by example).....Yeah, this show doesn't really put Supes in a good light......or his race for that matter.


And in parting Gentlemen & Women of the CW, if you make Lana a Clone......just to kill her......so you can re-tro fit the real Lana (where ever she is) back into an "innocent" character just so she can be the one to push Superman into his destiny...that despite everyone and his mother pushing him....and YOU are still able to keep your base of fans. I will not only laugh my Ass off......but being that DC is allowing you to do it.......I will be the first to say "Screw the Superman Legacy!".......I'll invest my money with you guys!.....Because sooner or later....such tenacity will result in real success.......and I'd rather be there when the cash register goes "Ka-Ching"........than when that idiot "Kal-el" finally flies.

MidgardDragon
11-03-2007, 12:41 AM
I'm not reading all that, but let me just say your reasoning is so fundamentaly flawed in the first few paragraphs that I can't even come up with a rational argument. It's like trying to fight against the statement "bananas doobie row boat".

CK&CK
11-03-2007, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I'm not reading all that, but let me just say your reasoning is so fundamentaly flawed in the first few paragraphs that I can't even come up with a rational argument. It's like trying to fight against the statement "bananas doobie row boat".

Ah MidgardDragon.....it's you.....why am I not surprised. It's all good.....I don't care for most of your reasoning & "rationalizing" with regards to this show either.

But it's a free world.........so carry on!

wolverine316
11-03-2007, 06:57 AM
It sucks that alot of fans have given up on this show.

ClarkyBoy14
11-03-2007, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
It's like trying to fight against the statement "bananas doobie row boat". :lol: I DO know it would be senseless to fire the ppl who have kept SV going for the last 6 years. I didn't read much further into the post, but I also know that not even watching the show any more removes one's right to comment on the show's current state and makes their opion meaningless to me.

--

MNIE was a full hour last night, AYSTAFG was back, and ANTM was a

clips show and GG was a repeat the night before, which means lower ratings, which means fewer ppl seeing the advertisements.

Maybe some of those were the reasons. :\

curiosity
11-03-2007, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I'm not reading all that, but let me just say your reasoning is so fundamentaly flawed in the first few paragraphs that I can't even come up with a rational argument. It's like trying to fight against the statement "bananas doobie row boat".

Just an observation:

The 2 highest rated shows were Superman/Clark centered with Superman/Clark fighting criminals who were weren't meteor freaks.

Mello Penelo
11-03-2007, 11:25 AM
Wow. Still less than five million. If Smallville came on either NBC, CBS or ABC, it would have been canceled years ago.


Originally posted by curiosity
Just an observation:

The 2 highest rated shows were Superman/Clark centered with Superman/Clark fighting criminals who were weren't meteor freaks.

Which shows the priorities of Smallville's fans. The largest majority of fans don't care about Superman. Just shipperism.

chantal
11-03-2007, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by dh1031
Does anyone know if they will be releasing adjusted ratings for people that record the show then watch it via Tivo/DVR/etc. ???

It takes about 2 weeks after each episode before those are ready to be released.

MidgardDragon
11-03-2007, 01:18 PM
Also, you promote the shows that are your winners, not shows that you "predict" "might" make money. Smallville was the top show on the network this season for all but, what, the past two weeks? Yeah, not promoting your number 1 is pure stupidity.


Originally posted by curiosity
Just an observation:

The 2 highest rated shows were Superman/Clark centered with Superman/Clark fighting criminals who were weren't meteor freaks.

I think a more accurate observation is that the 2 highest rated episodes were the premiere and one with a big Superman-related Guest Star that was actually promoted somewhere other then online. And Cure was promoted as Chloe and Dean Cain centric, IMO.

TheSupaMan
11-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Wow. Still less than five million. If Smallville came on either NBC, CBS or ABC, it would have been canceled years ago.

If Smallville were only any of those channels, we wouldn't be complaining about ratings.

Mello Penelo
11-03-2007, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
If Smallville were only any of those channels, we wouldn't be complaining about ratings.

Yeah, they would have sacked Al/Miles years ago for good writers.

CK&CK
11-03-2007, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Yeah, they would have sacked Al/Miles years ago for good writers.

This is what I am saying.......but some people think just because a show stays on the air.....that means it's a "great" success.


Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
:lol: I DO know it would be senseless to fire the ppl who have kept SV going for the last 6 years. I didn't read much further into the post,

Got no problem with that.....it's your opinion.....like I said free world. But if you really believed you could make it better....heck not even better.....just eliminate the negative fan divisions that exist with this show......would you do it?


[i]but I also know that not even watching the show any more removes one's right to comment on the show's current state and makes their opion meaningless to me. [/B]

Now this makes me laugh.

Firstly, I didn't know that you made the rules.

Secondly, I watched the first 5 and most of the 6th seasons....not to mention buying the first 5 Seasons on DVD.....that pretty much cements my ticket as far as I'm concerned.

Third, about the only logical thing one can't do is comment on the acting.....but the storyline is fair game.......that is.....unless your saying every single person on this board is Lying about what's happening? Are you saying that?

Fourth, even if you never watch this show, but have followed Superman in every incarnation (Comics, TV shows, or Movies)......And you care about it's legacy as a fan......My belief is that you have a right to be here. Again, it's not your call......ClarkyBoy.

Fifth and last, if the opinion is "meaningless" to you....hey, fine....hit the [IGNORE] button........but then again, you did take the time to respond.....so whether negative or positive......it must mean something to you..... : )

jimmyolsenblues
11-03-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
SMALLVILLE, 2.7/4 (HH), 1.8/5, (A 18-49), 4,383,000 million, 2.0/6 (A 18-34)

______________________________

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*
Lara................4.38 million*


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.80 million


This is a decline that I am not happy about, I don't want to go lower than 4.3 million

Mello Penelo
11-03-2007, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by CK&CK
This is what I am saying.......but some people think just because a show stays on the air.....that means it's a "great" success.

There are soap operas that have been on for 50+ years and aren't any good. They're on because they're cheap and easy to film and fill the programming holes during the day when there's no one home to watch.

ClarkyBoy14
11-04-2007, 02:40 PM
SV isn't cheap and easy to film...

LegendaryU2K
11-06-2007, 10:05 AM
Ratings are not super high, because as always, lack of promotion, and my guess alot of folks have to work, and might not have time to watch or record it.

So they need to:

#1 Promote the show better
#2 Keep the storyline together, episode kara was really stupid and out of place
#3 Make sure everyone is able to watch the show, everywhere
#4 If some cant watch on thursday, show it again durning the weekend.

#3 Is very important.

Besides all of that, i'm a hardcore smallville fan, so if i cant watch it, i record it.

peace

anisette
11-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by LegendaryU2K
Ratings are not super high, because as always, lack of promotion, and my guess alot of folks have to work, and might not have time to watch or record it.

So they need to:

#1 Promote the show better
#2 Keep the storyline together, episode kara was really stupid and out of place
#3 Make sure everyone is able to watch the show, everywhere
#4 If some cant watch on thursday, show it again durning the weekend.

#3 Is very important.

Besides all of that, i'm a hardcore smallville fan, so if i cant watch it, i record it.


peace


I basically agree with what you just said... except Kara wasn't a stupid episode. Fierce was.

But yes, I agree. They should have Smallville on a network that allows everyone to see the show. I live in D.C. and the only way I can watch the new episodes is when people so kindly post them on the internet. We don't get the CW here, which sucks!

I do think they need to promote the show better and I think they need to have the CW be seen by every cable company. Hell, I have 3 HBO channels, but no CW? that's messed up.


Originally posted by CK&CK
If I were being paid by the CW as an independent advisor (or more like a walk in fan who is being paid $50.00 bucks for an honest opinion by the CW big wigs) about how to handle the promotional campaign over their entire line of shows.....beginning with Smallville....here's what I would say with regards to this whole issue of Promotion in order to get RATINGS.

1. In Smallville you have a loyal fan base, that unless you do something STUPID.......actually, let me re-phrase that......unless you do something MONUMENTALLY STUPID.....these fans will continue to watch......and a number of them will still rationalize whatever it is....simply because it's "Superman"

2. Would you rather have several healthy shows as opposed to one borderline successful show?....Borderline when compared to other shows on other networks.....think about it....a show that would probably only do slightly better through promotion......Now, if the advertisment revenue warrants that increase....then by all means DO IT!.......You'll recoup your money and you can promote your other shows which NEED IT MORE. My opinion is that it's not worth it.....especially in light of such inferior writting on this show.....your better apt at this point to just keep the loyal fan base in tow with what your doing.

3. Spend money on getting better, even if not big name (probably better and cheaper that way), writters that will not only follow continuity....but will make it easier for all fans to suspend their belief......instead of having to swallow the absurdity of some of these episodes......especially with regards to character progression......especially Clark....make his progression to this so called destiny more realisitic and believable.....hell, don't listen to my opinion......but at least re-think it.......anything is better than everybody flying before this so called Icon....makes him look slow......like an idiot.......the only scenario dumber than that is the excuse....."He's not Superman yet".....which might still hold up if every Kryptonian wasn't flying before he was.......humm, I can see Krypto flying before Clark......now that would be funny.

4. Don't listen to most of these fans screaming for more promotion, most of them don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes.....which includes myself.....my advice is for you to gage everything and if it makes $ cents....then do it.......and if it doesn't......screw some of these fans......some of them will be the first to turn on you....regardless of whatever financial woes you have....a lot of them care only about themselves......that's not to say however, that you don't owe them something at times.....especially when you do crappy misleading tricks in order to get ratings. And especially for those who do really care about the story.....the story of Superman.....an American Icon.

5. Be careful when deciding what type of Legacy you leave......I can tell you that I haven't bought any of your season 6 DVD's , and I haven't watched your televised episodes for season 7....and I only frequent this board to stay up on how the atrocity is progressing.......prior to that.....I was always clamaring for anything Smallville........now?......, well, gentlemen.....I consider it a joke of a series........all these years of thinking this Clark Kent was a bright and noble boy......what a waste of time.....most of us all know him now for what type of T.V. character he really is........a slow brained hero.....a hero who we keep hearing..... will one day hold the title of greatest hero.....but that's all it will be.....a title.....not the truth of this story....not as you've told it.....the only turth here would be....that he's the most powerful hero.....But definitely NOT GREATEST.......because all this Clark's been capable of is sparking pretentious noble speaches from everyone around him.....most notably his parents......yes, PRETENTIOUS, GRAND, AND GLORIFIED speeches about the man he is becoming......but he only lives up to these speeches in brief little moments here and there...just before he does something stupid in order to erase all the progression.......BUT I DO have to commend you though......with regards to some new viewers and stand alone episodes...... this seems to work....and they'll probably keep coming back (More Ratings Baby!....to cancel out what you're losing!)......but once they become aquainted with the entire series as a whole.....well, besides realizing that Kryptonians are pretty much A$$holes bent on God like status............they'll not only realize that they're better than what this show is offering. but they'll also realize what a far superior race humans are when comparted to these Crazy Kryptonians......that is.......except for a few human that surf on this K-site.....I'll let you decide who.

But to repeat.....legacy is important.....it effects the past, present, and the future......(actually, I remember Lex uttering something similar......one of the better written scenes no doubt......and yet again a scene where someone is explaining important truths to the Kryptonian Moron).

The Past: I can't watch earlier season scenes with Clark....and not keep from uttering "Idiot"........I've tried....sometimes I wish I could erase the future episodes from my mind.....because I used to enjoy watching these scenes over, and over, and over......I used to watch that scene from "Rogue" where Johnathan was talking from behind the prison glass.....and I was so moved by the emotion between the two...not father and son by blood.......but by something far more powerful.......but now...in light of what Clark becomes.......I can't help thinking....."WHAT PRETENTIOUS CRAP". I'm seriously considering selling my DVD's.......I mean I just don't re-watch them anymore! I can't.........not without either getting annoyed......or simply laughing at the Clark Kent Character's expense.

The Present: Just not watching or spending money on it like I used to.......actually spending no money.......now that's a silver lining baby.

The Future: I've said this part before......once it's on film.....it's there 4 ever..........complete with the idiocy,cheesy-ness, and teenage sex just out of high school (okay for any other politically correct teenager in this world.....but not for an iconic Kent with supposed Morals.....not saying it's fair....but hey, look who raised him.....and it is Superman for heavens sake!....You lead by example).....Yeah, this show doesn't really put Supes in a good light......or his race for that matter.


And in parting Gentlemen & Women of the CW, if you make Lana a Clone......just to kill her......so you can re-tro fit the real Lana (where ever she is) back into an "innocent" character just so she can be the one to push Superman into his destiny...that despite everyone and his mother pushing him....and YOU are still able to keep your base of fans. I will not only laugh my Ass off......but being that DC is allowing you to do it.......I will be the first to say "Screw the Superman Legacy!".......I'll invest my money with you guys!.....Because sooner or later....such tenacity will result in real success.......and I'd rather be there when the cash register goes "Ka-Ching"........than when that idiot "Kal-el" finally flies.

You have a lot of biting sarcasm... I like! but unfortunately, I don't really agree with you on some of these points... (yes, I actually did take the time to read them.)

1. IMO we have had some of the best episodes of the season done in the last two years. We already have great writers. You can't blame it all on the writers. I don't think a lot of these episodes are absurd. I actually find them very believable, in a world that has meteor freaks and aliens from other planets. With the premise of the show, most of these episodes are good. The continuity part on the other hand... yeah... we could still work on that a bit.

2. In the very beginning of the series, Al and Miles already told us that Clark would not be flying and he would not be wearing the costume. By contract, they're not allowed to. I think the fans are forgetting that because they're anxious to see him fly and become the hero we all love. And with how Clark's not accepting his destiny, I don't find it hard to believe he can't fly. Flying is for a true kryptonian, and for me... until Clark embraces his destiny, he's not going to be a true Kryptonian, meaning he won't fly.

3. Clark is no more an idiot than anybody else on the show. True, he may be Kryptonian by birth, but in his heart, he's human... and humans are IDIOTS! Plus, he's still growing up. He's still learning. When the show finally ends, he'll be the superman we all know and love.

4. Al and Miles have already created a legacy by giving us smallville. We've never had a tv show that focuses on the young clark kent. We've only had superman.

Aside from that though... I pretty much agree with everything else.

Dannyblue1
11-07-2007, 01:53 PM
The DVR ratings for "Cure" are out. (It takes about two weeks.) And the episode did as well in DVR viewership as it did with live viewers.

"Smallville" saw increases of 44% in both women 18-34 (2.34rtg v. 1.63rtg) and adults 18-34 (2.55rtg v. 1.77rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing

I doubt the increase for "Lara" will be as big, but there will be an increase.

SparkleforSmallville
11-20-2007, 11:44 AM
Live + 7 ratings for "Lara" 4.75. Live was 4.03-Final was 4.38
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/11/19/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-oct-29-nov-4/