Lana or Lois going to die

[sdogg1m]

Did anyone relay the idea of Warrior Angel to Smallville?

"In the comic book Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies but in the movie she doesn't"

Does that mean Lana or Lois is going to die in Smallville?

[ginnyfan]

I doubt it.

[paolinki25]

Lois cannot die. Plain and simple. Lana has died like 2432 times, so I doubt they're gonna kill her again, unless this time she kills herself.

[SweetOne]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Lois cannot die. Plain and simple. Lana has died like 2432 times, so I doubt they're gonna kill her again, unless this time she kills herself.


:lol: :rotfl:

[sdogg1m]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Lois cannot die. Plain and simple. Lana has died like 2432 times, so I doubt they're gonna kill her again, unless this time she kills herself.

You ever heard of the Chlois theory?

BTW, the following has happened that shouldn't have:
Lois, Lex, and Jimmy in Smallville
Lana dates Clark prior to him becoming Superman
Lana MARRIES Lex (instead of Pete Ross)!!!
Lana turns evil!

So heck Lois can die!!!

[paolinki25]

I'm sorry, but I personally believe the Chlois theory is nonsense.

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by paolinki25
I'm sorry, but I personally believe the Chlois theory is nonsense.

Half of the crap they do on Smallville is nonsense. Chlois would be the absolute best move TPTB could ever make on Smallville...but of course I do not believe they will ever do this because it would negate the constant abuse and hate they love to shower on Chloe.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

While we're on the subject of the chlois theory.

Did you know that Sadie Blodgett the name on Lois's ID in Action is actually an alias that the Lois Lane from the comics used once?

[hanemg]

Originally posted by sdogg1m
You ever heard of the Chlois theory?

BTW, the following has happened that shouldn't have:
Lois, Lex, and Jimmy in Smallville
Lana dates Clark prior to him becoming Superman
Lana MARRIES Lex (instead of Pete Ross)!!!
Lana turns evil!

So heck Lois can die!!!
Unfortunately, I have heard of it, but have shock treatments already scheduled to help me forget what is possibly the worst idea ever conceived since Mr. Carlson thought Turkeys could fly.

However, for the comments in "Action" about the hero's girlfriend dying to push him into saving the world (an action he supposedly has to do alone) to mean anything would also have to mean that he couldn't have a girlfriend at all which would effectively block "Chlois" from happening anyway so those two ideas have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

Lex at least has a history of being in "Smallville" from the Silver Age of comics and even the others were known to show up now and then in various stories. The thing is though that the mark they left was so small that it really didn't change anything.

Killing Lois off, however, would change a great deal and would have the exact opposite effect on the "mythos" as what was described with Warrior Angel. Lana they might get away with (though I think Clark will simply discover she's changed into someone he no longer wants to be with), but not Lois.

Chloe, however, with apologies to her fans, yeah, she's heading for an end. I always believed that she was going to die, but going into this season I've seen more signs of it than ever.

[jack1487]

Originally posted by sdogg1m
You ever heard of the Chlois theory?

BTW, the following has happened that shouldn't have:
Lois, Lex, and Jimmy in Smallville
Lana dates Clark prior to him becoming Superman
Lana MARRIES Lex (instead of Pete Ross)!!!
Lana turns evil!

So heck Lois can die!!!


Both Lois (May 1948, issue 1, Action Comics) and Lex (April 1960, issue 271, Adventure Comics) where in Smallville when they were teenagers. So that means that the Smallville writer's got something right anyhow.

One more thing is that Lana and Clark were going out with each other during their high school years.


Take Care,

Jack ;)

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by sdogg1m
You ever heard of the Chlois theory?

BTW, the following has happened that shouldn't have:
Lois, Lex, and Jimmy in Smallville
Lana dates Clark prior to him becoming Superman
Lana MARRIES Lex (instead of Pete Ross)!!!
Lana turns evil!

So heck Lois can die!!!

None of those things are mutually exclusive to the general Superman mythos. They might not be accurate, but they don't make major later items impossible.

Lois having been in SV means Clark can't meet her when he moves to Metropolis. Simply put, that's not a big deal. Lois DYING in SV would mean that Clark can't work with her, date her, fall in love with her, and eventually marry her, after he's moved to Metropolis. Equally simply put, that IS a big deal. :)

I love the Chlois theory, but I don't expect it to happen. I don't even really want it to happen. It's a great fanfic idea, but I think I'd rather just see Chloe quietly written down, while the show builds toward a Clark/Lois future romance (which I don't want to see on SV... that's Superman territory).

Maybe a few years ago I'd have been a fan of Chlois, but now that Lois is actually acting like Lois Lane, I'm actually starting to like her! And Chloe, much as I love her, is acting nothing like Lois Lane should, and she hasn't for some time, since the early seasons. That doesn't mean I don't still love her character. I do love her character. It's just not Lois Lane's character. I think it would be unfair to the real Lois Lane character to paste the label on Chloe and call it all the same thing.

Romeo might retain that dear perfection which he owes without that title, but that which we call Lois lane by any other name would not necessarily smell as sweet!

[HalJordan4184]

Originally posted by jack1487
One more thing is that Lana and Clark were going out with each other during their high school years.


Take Care,

Jack ;)

Actually, they didn't go out, and is a complete invention of Smallville. Lana used to like Superboy, but they never dated. She was obsessed with proving he was secretly Clark Kent, but that's as far as their pre crisis relationship went. Post Crisis Clark loved Lana like his little sister, and never dated her or anything. Lana however, pined after Clark, and lost it when she realized he was leaving her forever, and tried to chase him around the world for a couple of years, before she realized, Clark simply isn't meant for her.

[SteveS]

Oh boy, I know who I want to pass beyond the veil, this one is easy. Should it happen.

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Lois cannot die. Plain and simple. Lana has died like 2432 times, so I doubt they're gonna kill her again, unless this time she kills herself.

:D actually, Lois is the future Mrs. Kent, she can´t die.
Clark has to fall in love with her in the future.
Lana b**ch can die, she has died before, she´s awful and completely replacible, most of people wants her out of Smallville:p :D

[red_sun1938]

Originally posted by sdogg1m
Did anyone relay the idea of Warrior Angel to Smallville?

"In the comic book Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies but in the movie she doesn't"

Does that mean Lana or Lois is going to die in Smallville?

I doubt it. That was just the Warrior Angel story line in play.

[Twitch]

Originally posted by sdogg1m
You ever heard of the Chlois theory?

BTW, the following has happened that shouldn't have:
Lois, Lex, and Jimmy in Smallville
Lana dates Clark prior to him becoming Superman
Lana MARRIES Lex (instead of Pete Ross)!!!
Lana turns evil!

So heck Lois can die!!!

As much as I love Chloe and her character I really don't want this Chlois theory to actually happen. The Lois Lane character is too firmly established now, you can see that they're trying to have her act more and more like the iconic Lois Lane every episode, I just don't see this Chlois theory playing out.

And am I the only one who doesn't want anyone to die? Losing JK was hard enough, am I alone in wanting all of the remaining cast to survive the show? :)

[theotherJane]

Originally posted by Twitch
As much as I love Chloe and her character I really don't want this Chlois theory to actually happen. The Lois Lane character is too firmly established now, you can see that they're trying to have her act more and more like the iconic Lois Lane every episode, I just don't see this Chlois theory playing out.

And am I the only one who doesn't want anyone to die? Losing JK was hard enough, am I alone in wanting all of the remaining cast to survive the show? :)

I agree. Don't want anyone to die, however, I have a feeling that things aren't gonna fare so well for Lionel.

As far as the "Chlois theory" goes...why is that called a theory anyway?
A theory is something that is actually backed by evidence that holds some merit and substance, Chlois doesn't have that, IMO.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by theotherJane
I agree. Don't want anyone to die, however, I have a feeling that things aren't gonna fare so well for Lionel.

As far as the "Chlois theory" goes...why is that called a theory anyway?
A theory is something that is actually backed by evidence that holds some merit and substance, Chlois doesn't have that, IMO.

I'll start by saying I do agree with you about the Chlois theory almost certainly not panning out. The key phrase in your statement though was "IMO." In your opinion, it doesn't have merit or substance. There are many who can quite rationably point out reasons and evidence for it. I disagree with the evidence, but the show's done crazier things than this before. If not crazier, than at least crazy enough that I wouldn't put most wild ideas past them. I strongly doubt it will happen, and really don't want it to at this point (at this point being the important phrase in that sentence). If it did, though, I frankly wouldn't be completely astounded. Surprised, certainly, but on SV, it's been made clear that anything can happen.


Originally posted by sdogg1m
Did anyone relay the idea of Warrior Angel to Smallville?

"In the comic book Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies but in the movie she doesn't"

Does that mean Lana or Lois is going to die in Smallville?

First, as I said earlier, I don't think it was intended as a parallel. But even if it was, it could apply to Alicia just as easily. Though if SV wanted to bring her back, I wouldn't object. :)

[SteveS]

" actually, Lois is the future Mrs. Kent, she can´t die"

Not anywhere living now or the forseeable future onscreen, just in your 10 years 'death' TV show and funny books that only about 60,000 read per month. But, please, feel free to hold your breath until ClarkMan marries lois on Smallville, if you wish.

Knock yourself out.

[ClanaDestinyObsession]

if someone does die it /had better not/ be Lana!!!! *hint hint* >> lois can go "bye- bye" xp for all i care...altho i do like the character as long as she stays away from clark!!

__________________________________________________
&& i just wanna run around in a feild with <you> as the rain comes pouring down.
We'll fall down on the muddy ground and get lost in each other's eyes, and /IF/ this moment of ~forever~ /must/ end, we'll finish the night with one
/AMAZING/ *kiss* in the raining, moonlit sky.
~*cLaNa*~

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by SteveS
" actually, Lois is the future Mrs. Kent, she can´t die"

Not anywhere living now or the forseeable future onscreen, just in your 10 years 'death' TV show and funny books that only about 60,000 read per month. But, please, feel free to hold your breath until ClarkMan marries lois on Smallville, if you wish.

Knock yourself out.

The original poster was not implying that Clark and Lois were going to get together on SV. You seem to have misunderstood the implication of that person's post.

[sdogg1m]

I am sorry but anyone following Superman realizes that anything can happen.

Superman Returns has Clark and Lois as distant friends but yet Lois has Superman's child!!!!!!!

I am not a die hard Chlois fan but I have read the HUNDREDS of pages attributed to it and there is substance. You will find my posts argue against the theory.

The main point, I was getting at; the line struck me kind of odd and the writer's were playing up Warrior Angel to mirror Smallville.

[AlwaysRight]

well warrior angel hints that Clark true love should die, I love how Chloe fans use this to mean one of Lana or Lois will die :)

fact is issue was solved at the end when Lana got saved

[individuall]

well warrior angel hints that Clark true love should die, I love how Chloe fans use this to mean one of Lana or Lois will die :)

fact is issue was solved at the end when Lana got saved

agreed!:D

[Ardiem3]

Lois cant die, and same rules for Lana, as for Pete, cant die either, just leave town.. Ok?

[Black Panda]

Why couldn't Lois die? She does all the time. No heart beat 18 hours.

[Ardiem3]

Why couldn't Lois die? She does all the time. No heart beat 18 hours.

I think that youre talking about Chloe because I dont remember Lois dying alot in the past, or not having a heartbeat for more than 18 hours, that was all Chloe...

[Jaderoyale]

Why couldn't Lois die? She does all the time. No heart beat 18 hours.

Lois can't die because shes in Clarks future. You can't change whats already been written.
As Ardiem3 said, Chloes the one who didn't have a heartbeat for 18 hours.
Lois was near death in the damn after she was stabbed in Phantom, Chloe saved her in time.

[Odysseus]

Actually the whole "his girlfriend dies so she doesn't block his destiny" thing was meant as a joke by AlMiles to make fun of how ppl online always rant about how they want Lana to die so Clark can move past her and fulfill his destiny.

They're not gonna actually kill her, or Lois for that matter. They meant it as a parody of some of the online fans, especially with the episode's villain, the uber-fan who got a little too obsessed with the idea of killing the girlfriend.

[Twitch]

Actually the whole "his girlfriend dies so she doesn't block his destiny" thing was meant as a joke by AlMiles to make fun of how ppl online always rant about how they want Lana to die so Clark can move past her and fulfill his destiny.

They're not gonna actually kill her, or Lois for that matter. They meant it as a parody of some of the online fans, especially with the episode's villain, the uber-fan who got a little too obsessed with the idea of killing the girlfriend.

Exactly.

From Action:

Lana: Well, I didn't want to freak her out, but Chloe might have found a clue about the attacker. She got sidetracked by her editor, but she e-mailed us this. Warrior Angel internet blogs. Not all the fans are enthusiastic about the film's interpretation. The movie stays true to the mythology in all ways but one. In the comics, Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies. And in the movie, she doesn't. Blogs, message boards, fan forums -- these are all pretty extreme. How are we supposed to narrow this down to the one psycho who's willing to kill?


After hearing Lana say that I was like touché AlMiles, touché. :lol:

[Vergon6]

Exactly.

From Action:

Lana: Well, I didn't want to freak her out, but Chloe might have found a clue about the attacker. She got sidetracked by her editor, but she e-mailed us this. Warrior Angel internet blogs. Not all the fans are enthusiastic about the film's interpretation. The movie stays true to the mythology in all ways but one. In the comics, Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies. And in the movie, she doesn't. Blogs, message boards, fan forums -- these are all pretty extreme. How are we supposed to narrow this down to the one psycho who's willing to kill?


After hearing Lana say that I was like touché AlMiles, touché. :lol:
Haha yeah. Although I am not one of those people who say Lana should die.

[Twitch]

Haha yeah. Although I am not one of those people who say Lana should die.

Same here, I just found that little jab hilarious.

[Vergon6]

Same here, I just found that little jab hilarious.
I agree. I still don't get why people read into that Lois is destined to die. I mean, Lois wasn't even in the episode.

[Black Panda]

Well, there is also all the in over her head bit, which Lois loves to be, and the guns pointing at Lois all season long. Then Lois being shot by a Lex minion in what was the original finale, followed by Clark getting shot wearing a Lois name badge.

There is the "hero must walk alone" bit that is a big argument for why Clark should bypass Chloe and go to Lois. The "hero must walk alone seems to be fairly pointedly rejected by the movie producers.

In the latest Smallville mag I understand Penelope's name has been changed to Dana Dane. So Dana could be like Lana, Cane is definately more like Lane. And add an i and you have Diana Dane who is the Lois analog from Supreme (Allen Moore's meta commentary on the Superman story). Make of it what you will, that could easily be coincidence.

[Vergon6]

Lana and Lex have also been shot several times over the course of the series.

[Kalista]

They would never kill Lana. She is safe.

[Twitch]

Lana and Lex have also been shot several times over the course of the series.

Indeed. I wonder how many times Lex has actually been shot during the course of the series, I'm pretty sure he holds the record for that.

Also, the only character on Smallville who obviously isn't 100% safe is Chloe. I guess you can include Tess in that category too for next season, she's not actually part of the mythos right?

[Vergon6]

Indeed. I wonder how many times Lex has actually been shot during the course of the series, I'm pretty sure he holds the record for that.

Also, the only character on Smallville who obviously isn't 100% safe is Chloe. I guess you can include Tess in that category too for next season, she's not actually part of the mythos right?
Yeah. They claimed that comic books fans would recognize said character in the spoiler tags, but there is no consensus on who this person is, and they don't have the same name as any character already established (unless they are going a Julian Luthor/Grant Gabriel route).

I don't personally think Chloe will die permanently. As for this other character, it is certainly possible.

[DontCha]

lois wont die..if she does she'll come right back. Smallville do not own the rights to her so the cannot kill her off unless DC allow it..which I highly doubt

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Did anyone relay the idea of Warrior Angel to Smallville?

"In the comic book Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies but in the movie she doesn't"

Does that mean Lana or Lois is going to die in Smallville?


Warrior angel was bald right?

IMO warrior angel implies how Lex sees himself, he's more like Lex than Superman

He sacrificed love for money and power, in the Warrior angel story he cant be with anyone if he wants to be powerful.

[Odysseus]

Same here, I just found that little jab hilarious.

Me too. While some people were getting angry over the episode, I was busy laughing my head off. :lol:


They would never kill Lana. She is safe.

Yep. She's safe. And so is Lois. In fact, so are Lex and Jimmy.

[Ardiem3]

Yep. She's safe. And so is Lois. In fact, so are Lex and Jimmy.

Yea, and so is Kara in Season 8 too... er, wait... nevermind :lol:

[Odysseus]

Yea, and so is Kara in Season 8 too... er, wait... nevermind :lol:

Kara wasn't killed off. She was imprisoned in the Phantom Zone.

They needed to do that to Kara because they needed an explanation of why Kara isn't already SuperWOMAN in the comics rather than Supergirl. The Phantom Zone is a place where the prisoners eternally remain at the same physical age they were when they were imprisoned, so when Kara is eventually released again in the far future, they will have an explanation for her still being a TEENAGER and thus the reason for her calling herself SuperGIRL rather than Superwoman in the future.

[the_kryptonian]

Did anyone relay the idea of Warrior Angel to Smallville?

"In the comic book Warrior Angel's girlfriend dies but in the movie she doesn't"

Does that mean Lana or Lois is going to die in Smallville?

it could be an allusion to the theme (as I see it) of this season: "If Clark stays with Lana, he will never become what he is meant to be." you think about it though, the comic book and the movie could be metaphors of Clark's true destiny and the life he dreams of. Comics = Clark's destined life as Superman in which he has moved on and become what he is meant to be.
Movie = Clark's preferance of his life. "She" (Angel's gf? Lana? you decide...) lives and stays a part of his life, but absent is the sacrifice of going without this loss in order to realize his potential.

see a big concern with this is that "if it applies now, it has to apply later". Not so! at this point Clark's desire to be happy with a significant other is only anchoring him from realizing his full potential, sort of like how most parents warn their kids to not marry before college or some might also say before they've established themselves in the world with a job and a place to live.
if Clark and Lana stayed together or, God forbid, were married and had a life in Smallville, Clark would *never* take the initiative to become the saving force that is Superman. seasons past and especially now have proven this, and Lana has finally come to understand that this is the truth. if she stays with Clark he will never do what he must to realize his full potential.
However... this does not apply to years later when Clark *has* taken the initiative and become Superman. By this time he has a job at the planet, a place to live that is not the same town he grew up in with truckloads of memories to peck at him, and every day he fulfills his potential as Superman. when the time is right, he and Lois can have that happiness of a life together. at this point Lois could not keep Clark from being what he is meant to be.

[Smalvil1]

warrior angel is sometimes used as a parallel to clarks world by the writers (such as warrior angel and devilicus were best friends turned enemys, and devilicus turn to evil was a journey not a lightswitch) but in this instance, it is not. First of all, we know in DC continuity both lana and lois are alive. Secondly, DC will not allow TPTB to kill off lana and Lois.