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Nospam
10-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Thoughts?

ginnyfan
10-26-2007, 12:44 AM
After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville.

That's the only thing I hated.

Nospam
10-26-2007, 12:48 AM
I thought it was a solid episode, actually. But I hated that Clark was completely unsupportive of Chloe when she twice mentioned Jimmy. At least say something positive. :(

It also bothered me that Clark still can't see past Smallville. It is utterly ridiculous at this point in the series.

ginnyfan
10-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Yeah... a pat on the shoulder would have been nice, at least.

paolinki25
10-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
It also bothered me that Clark still can't see past Smallville. It is utterly ridiculous at this point in the series.

Word. This annoys the crap outta me. What's it gonna take for Clark to look outside his freaking childish illusion of "Oh, Lana and I will grow old together, have babies and live with the cows forever!" It was cute back in season 1. Now, it's just plain stupid.

Randy G.
10-26-2007, 12:52 AM
I really loved the episode, but would probably choose......
"After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville."

Maybe that's just me rushing the story along though.

smallvillerocks45
10-26-2007, 12:55 AM
Nothing really bothered me this time around. Okay, it does bug me a little that Lana and Clark have not kissed yet...but at least I felt some chemistry between them in "Action"...I guess I can live with it (no kisses, that is) for now. Other than that, I was and am extremely satisfied with the episode.

DarkChilde
10-26-2007, 01:20 AM
Clark and the cape should be like Linus and his blanket.

lillie_poo_pod
10-26-2007, 01:24 AM
Pretty much everything scene that had no Lionel or Lex.

Alexander III
10-26-2007, 01:57 AM
Hey, when u said Lex is obsessed with a woman this time. It reminded me of the time Lex had a secret room in his mansion that stored all those diagrams of the car accident, kriptonites, alien worm and etc. Suddenly I remembered there was a BIG PHOTO OF CLARK. I'd swear Lex was wayyyyyy over the line there. He was overly obsessed w/ the farmboy for sure that time.

Anyways, I hate Lana and Marylin in ACTION.

Nospam
10-26-2007, 02:01 AM
I thought Lex's Chamber of Clark Kent (CoCK) was seriously gay. I giant picture of Clark? Uh, why? Did Lex use Clark's face as a target during his more intimate moments alone in the room? Gay. The whole thing was gay. And that's fine, but just admit it, Lex.

spicyblark
10-26-2007, 05:27 AM
Rachel needed to die.

Kryptonian-Ronin
10-26-2007, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
I thought Lex's Chamber of Clark Kent (CoCK) was seriously gay. I giant picture of Clark? Uh, why? Did Lex use Clark's face as a target during his more intimate moments alone in the room? Gay. The whole thing was gay. And that's fine, but just admit it, Lex.

:rotfl:
Dude !

I am beginning to dislike the disregard for lives and the "ease" in which actors "kill"
people or could have killed them.

A bit bothersome.

last man of krypton
10-26-2007, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville.

That's the only thing I hated.

Ditto. I was half expecting him to say "If I go outside Smallville, I'll fall off the edge of the world!"

red_sun1938
10-26-2007, 07:09 AM
Yet another Belle Reeve resident knows Clark's secret. At least he realized that Lex was Clark's nemesis and didn't spill the secret but come on. :rolleyes:

chlo-el
10-26-2007, 07:12 AM
He left the cape on the fence to go be with Lana, come on. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!

dh1031
10-26-2007, 07:32 AM
My one disappointment is that they made no mention of Ryan (what with all the discussion of Warrior Angel). They could have had at least had Lex say "I haven't read a Warrior Angel comic since Ryan looked at my collection." or something like that. Or at the beginning the discussion Chloe and Clark were having about comics, you would have thought they could have mentioned Ryan then. Oh well, other than that - great ep!!! I like the way they have Lana progressing - she's every bit a Luthor!!

Nazmul
10-26-2007, 07:42 AM
I hated when Clark saved Lana.

Theshadow129x
10-26-2007, 07:50 AM
this whole episode was forced! too many superman references in too little time. i said to myself "stop with this superman crap i just want to watch his journey to it already! damnit!

kal-el_Girl
10-26-2007, 08:03 AM
ok that scene when clark saved lana (I hate clana btw) was awesome and romantic so I give the writers props for creating that scene ;) But I hated how they insinuated that WE are called obsessed and disturbed.... TPTB know how we are and yet they insulted us, they might as well mention Kryptonsite, don't ya think?

caseybrn
10-26-2007, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Theshadow129x
this whole episode was forced! too many superman references in too little time. i said to myself "stop with this superman crap i just want to watch his journey to it already! damnit!

I uber agree with this comment...Even though I am a huge fan of all things Superman,

But after all these seasons its just further evidence that they're really out of material...Make a decision to stay in Smallville or not!
Stop playing the middle of the fence!

So if Clark is thinking now that he will remain in Smallville (even if thats true after the whole Lana thing gets revealed)...He's made that decision...let it stick til the big revelation that DRASTICALLY changes his perspective....No need to continue having it go back and forth like a ping pong ball,

Poyntz
10-26-2007, 08:44 AM
dh1031 - i was disappointed about no Ryan Reference either.

I did like that clark saved lana and all. but when she started falling she kind of was errie to me because she was just staring.. you would think if you were falling you would at least scream or soemthing untill your caught. I guess i have to watch it agian to see what everyone else seems to see LOL.

I also was confused as to why Lex would give Lois back the security pass?

Minela
10-26-2007, 09:14 AM
Lex gave Lois back her pass because he said he was going to change his locks (as in change the security code).

I am firmly planted on the fence with this episode. Everything that I didn't hate, I loved. Weird, there was no in between for me, this time. I hated that Lois' screentime was cut and I hated that Lana got all of Lois' iconic moments. Like the falling of a building safe, and I hated that Lana was the one telling Clark to go and save the world. It was very OOC for her, since she wants to grow old together on the farm and she is being a bonafide psycho.

What I absolutley loved was Lione and Lana's story. It was one of the most interesting I have seen in a while. Lional is back!!! And he is not being played by Lana, he knows what is going on. I also loved Lex and Lois...they are paving the way for bigger and darker things. I don't know, maybe it is just me...but I think Clark is not relying on Chloe as much as he used to, he figured out that the fan was after Lana himself, I mean, Chloe helped but she didn't do his entire thinking. I loved that part. Oh, and there was some pot growing on Smallville. Go Marilyn!

LunaItaliana
10-26-2007, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
I thought it was a solid episode, actually. But I hated that Clark was completely unsupportive of Chloe when she twice mentioned Jimmy. At least say something positive. :(

It also bothered me that Clark still can't see past Smallville. It is utterly ridiculous at this point in the series.

That makes it clear how selfish and self-centered Clark is (because of Lana I may add)

IndestructibleMan
10-26-2007, 09:37 AM
I gotta go with the fact that YET ANOTHER PERSON knows the secret!!!

And surely Clark Kent is getting WAY too famous....

First he was on the front page of the papers for being Lana's Ex in season 6....NOW he's in their again for saving the actress.

It's just too much. The whole point of Clark Kent was that he was the disguise...the humble VERY normal bumbling nerdy character.
He can't be this famous as a youth or people would connect the dots later.

And does the actress know he's super? I mean...she woke up after the car had blown up...so did she know he caught her or did she think he pulled her out?? I was a bit confused by that.

Other than that...great episode. (And amusing that Lana didn't seem to bothered to be falling!)

darkkrypton81
10-26-2007, 09:59 AM
The BDA is back.....

Even Lana told him that the world may need him more than she does. But what does he do....?

He puts his shackles back on....

Charissa70
10-26-2007, 10:30 AM
I first was upset the way Chloe was waving flags behind Clark trying to say how upset she was and he didn't notice. Nobody notices when she is upset but everyone comes to Chloe when she is needed. (what about Lex's death threat to her and Clark said he would deal with it when Lana was safe?). I think at one point Chloe is going to leave because she will realize she is people come to her when they need something.

Also, after all these seasons of Clark and Lana-I do not see any chemistry right now. Clark had more with Kara. I don't like Lana, but I thought there would be more emotion between them after he found her alive.

AND.....if he is an alien from an advanced planet........How many times is he going to believe things like 'I am watching another movie with Nell' (who was never mentioned for seasons) or where she is going other times? And when did she pick up computer skills? (I can believe Lois did-Lois doesn't let anything stop her). And who would be helping Lana-unless it is Brainiac (or she is a clone) that person would know they would be dead when found out by the Luthors. But Lana doesn't care about that anymore does she? She has to be sick if she doesn't know it will make clark turn away unless getting even is more important that Clark-and it looks like it does.

ClarksGal
10-26-2007, 12:47 PM
The only thing that bothered me, and it was minor, was that Clark wasn't a tad more supportive of Chloe when she was talking about her breakup. And he didn't even thank her for creating Kara's background story. But, I loved that she did that. I had been wondering if they were even going to address that she would need a SSN and stuff, because surely Lex would look into all that.

Now that you bring up the Lois deal with the computer hacking, etc., I think you have a point. I dind't think of that on my own...she has always been pretty resourceful, although she hasn't been a computer geek the way Chloe has.

Demne
10-26-2007, 12:51 PM
I think the only character that is boring me right now is Chloe, other than that, I liked the episode.

I loved Lois in her sexy business outfit, that was way hot.

I loved The cape sceen.

I loved Clark jumping and saving lana and landing with a huge thud! I had to watch that on tivo like 3 times lol.

I loved Lionel ripping through his hand to get away.

I love that Clark feels comfortable now with Lana, and that just like before when Lana said in like season 3 or whatever.. I've been outside of Smallville, I want to see what can be had for me here.. talking about Clark and Clark doing the same in this episode.

I also liked how the Warrior Angel fan protected Clark even after he was trying to hurt him.

Good episode!

Eventually Clark will be called to the fortress of Solitude for his training, and leave Lana, but right now its great!

All about Clark
10-26-2007, 01:00 PM
I was only bothered by Lionel being unconscious for what, weeks? No IV and no fluids. What kept him unconscious and how could he survive without fluids for weeks?

svtwamedfan05
10-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Clark leaves a valuable gift on the fence for Shelby to piss on.
The Clark and Lana snorefest continues
The entire premise of this episode was insulting to fans
After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville
Lana is seriously f*cking scary one moment, dutiful girlfriend the next. Her duplicity is sickening

Theshadow129x
10-26-2007, 03:08 PM
this episode made me feel like they were forcing us to see how we are on their side of the fence and i have to say understand what they meant by trying to force the story to just end it just made me mad at what was going. It had no significance to the real story of the crystal and kara (though mentioned) and of course the spaceship and his training. it kind of irritated me. Im on of the fans that say the story needs to pushed forward but this episode made me feel like stop with the superman references and just get on to his journey of being Clark kent to superman

Demne
10-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Anyone who thinks Clark left the cape on the fence for the dog to pee on is not seeing what it is supposed to represent. It was awesome. It was a metaphor.. He is not ready to put on the cape yet, he is still being held back. But he has the cape now!

The only other way I could have seen them doing that sceen, is if Clark had the cape drapped over one of his shoulders, and it billowed in the breeze behind him. That would have been a killer ending as well.

outsyder
10-26-2007, 03:57 PM
What did I not like?

Two words: Grant Gabriel...

The_Frag_Man
10-26-2007, 05:14 PM
Let's see:

Clark unsupportive of Chloe.
Lois suddenly a super hacker "IM SO GOOD AT THIS" she says as if it didn't come out of nowhere for no reason.
Clark off the side of the building, catches Lana and whatever, awful scene.
Lionel giving Lana a friendly warning that she's turning to the dark side. I think he was still dehydrated at this point.
The awful conversation between Clark and Lana at the end
"HEY MAYBE THE WORLD NEEDS YOU MORE THAN I DO"
"NOPE"
Did they forget Chloe is meant to be a reporter? She got an interview because she was friends with Clark, and that's it. I guess Lois is the reporter now, she even got the hacking skills.
Lex and his terrible line "YOU GOTS TO BE ALONE TO SAVE THE WORLD"
I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff, but really it was some awful ****.

E: If I had to say one thing it would be 'the dialog'
Did the new guy write the script or something?

Dodge006
10-26-2007, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by IndestructibleMan
I gotta go with the fact that YET ANOTHER PERSON knows the secret!!!

And surely Clark Kent is getting WAY too famous....

First he was on the front page of the papers for being Lana's Ex in season 6....NOW he's in their again for saving the actress.

It's just too much. The whole point of Clark Kent was that he was the disguise...the humble VERY normal bumbling nerdy character.
He can't be this famous as a youth or people would connect the dots later.

And does the actress know he's super? I mean...she woke up after the car had blown up...so did she know he caught her or did she think he pulled her out?? I was a bit confused by that.



Yeah, it's getting a bit much that everyone and their dog know Clark's secret. By the time he's Superman, only Lois won't know who he really is.

borednow
10-26-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Dodge006
Yeah, it's getting a bit much that everyone and their dog know Clark's secret. By the time he's Superman, only Lois won't know who he really is.

Lois writes her big article about superman and everyone but her and Lex think: "Clark sure loves those primary colors"

chlarkdabest
10-26-2007, 06:13 PM
man...I'm totally annoyed @ the way this show is going... Clark has no character...he is like a robot pining after lana.... I hated the unending Clana crap.
Also totally hated how Clark ignored Chloe's comments.... It seemed intentional...Why are they doing this?

The_Frag_Man
10-26-2007, 06:14 PM
Perhaps they want us to hate Chlark so we don't want it any more.

xaosthry
10-27-2007, 04:29 AM
Clark back to pissing on Chloe, he is completely nonsupporting of her. Except for the beginning scene, the only time he goes to her is when he needs google.
Lois suddenly can do what it took Chloe years to be master hacker. (I really enjoyed watching her getting better at it)
Grant gave me the hibbie jibbies about Lois not going after Lex. If Lois can't figure him out by that, she's not gonna make a very good reporter.
Lana's split personalities is irritating to no end. Her trying to lie and pull one over on Lionel, AS IF!!!!
Shelby getting to piss on the cape. I watched the credits roll while foul language was being yelled by me scaring the hell out of my neighbors.
Oh, and the fact that the entire episode revolves around the fact that Lana is holding him back.

LoisKent2006
10-27-2007, 05:40 AM
To be honest, I think this episode is full of crap!

I can NOT believe after all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville!

He really pissed me off now! :mad:

smallvilleobsessor17
10-27-2007, 08:54 AM
Christina Milian's acting was terrible.

SacredK
10-27-2007, 08:55 AM
I do think it was rude of Clark leaving the cape outside. He could have put it on his kitchen table. :P

Khyla
10-28-2007, 08:20 AM
What did you hate about "Action"?

Clana goo-goo eyes. :mad:

clana4everfan2
10-28-2007, 10:18 AM
I enjoyed the cape scene and Clark saving Lana the way he did. However, he could have been more supportative to Chloe. It was nice Clark figured out Ben was after Lana without Chloe doing it. I liked the line Chloe mentioned about being his sidekick which was funny.. kind of a joke at SV fans. Lana is crazy one minute all nice and sweet. The next a total psycho.. haha it's funny. LOL. I think this one is a clone.. because there is totally something up with her.
Her interaction with Lionel and his warning that she is heading down a dark path she won't be able to get out of.. And Clark basically won't forgive her for her revenge and it will be of her own demise and end their relationship.

Welling_is_pretty
10-28-2007, 01:52 PM
The Clark and Lana snorefest continues.

Chloe whines about Jimmy (and Clark was utterly unsupportive).

After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville.
So sick of Clana, so sick of Clark being all 'wah, wah, wah' about Lana and then tuning out Chloe when she needs someone, so SICK of Clark (Apparently Ollie needs to come back and smack this boy!) not seeing past the corn in Smallville.

*sighs*

Every time we make a stride forward AlandMiles take us 3 steps back.

Sweetie
10-28-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by LoisKent2006
I can NOT believe after all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville!:mad:

I agree.Clark has the powers to save the all world.Again,he decides to take the easy road.How lazy & selfish can he be?

Mello Penelo
10-28-2007, 11:29 PM
Yay for Lois! Yay for Grant! Not together, but I'm glad Grant was around. :D

Everything else was hate-worthy.

Clarkgirl8
10-28-2007, 11:30 PM
Lex is now obsessed with Kara. Well, at least it's a woman this time. :lol: that was funny god i love ya Nospam :p

But my real votes:

The Clark and Lana snorefest continues. :rolleyes: zZzZz

Chloe whines about Jimmy (and Clark was utterly unsupportive). Gee Clark at least say something "You'll be fine" or even a joke!!! God... :\ :mad:

After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville. Oh well what else is new... :rolleyes:

TampaVille
10-29-2007, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
It also bothered me that Clark still can't see past Smallville. It is utterly ridiculous at this point in the series.

What I find so confusing is the fact that this is a total backslide for him. After Black Thursday, Clark was working himself half dead during the nights to help repair the damage that Dr. Fine's virus had caused in Metropolis. That was a really good step for him in becoming Superman. Then with the Justice League episode, Oliver invites Clark to help them fight Lex's 33.1 experiments worldwide. Clark wanted to go, but he stayed because he had to deal with the phantoms first. Word. He held off doing something good and major because he had to do something even better and bigger. Clark's accepted his training, he went to the Fortress, he said he was ready to go.

And then... nothing. Worse than nothing. He's resisting now. And I find it really hard to accept that he's COMPLETELY shutting himself off from that destiny because of Lana, especially since Lana has now said that she doesn't want to hold him back. The whole thing just stinks of bad writing.

coolgal
10-29-2007, 09:57 AM
I'm still wondering when is this clana kiss gonna happen. When clark caught her, i thought..oh he we go, finally. But no. The wait goes on, lol.

Nospam
10-29-2007, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by TampaVille
What I find so confusing is the fact that this is a total backslide for him. After Black Thursday, Clark was working himself half dead during the nights to help repair the damage that Dr. Fine's virus had caused in Metropolis. That was a really good step for him in becoming Superman. Then with the Justice League episode, Oliver invites Clark to help them fight Lex's 33.1 experiments worldwide. Clark wanted to go, but he stayed because he had to deal with the phantoms first. Word. He held off doing something good and major because he had to do something even better and bigger. Clark's accepted his training, he went to the Fortress, he said he was ready to go.

And then... nothing. Worse than nothing. He's resisting now. And I find it really hard to accept that he's COMPLETELY shutting himself off from that destiny because of Lana, especially since Lana has now said that she doesn't want to hold him back. The whole thing just stinks of bad writing.

All very good points.

I can only hope that this backslide into what Clark thinks will be a comfortable existence with Lana all has a point. Otherwise, it's just horsesh!t.

TampaVille
10-29-2007, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
All very good points.

I can only hope that this backslide into what Clark thinks will be a comfortable existence with Lana all has a point. Otherwise, it's just horsesh!t.

Let me put it this way... if in a couple episodes, we find out that Lana is really an evil clone who has doped Clark up on orange kryptonite, which saps his desire to be a hero and basically makes him really lazy, I'd be pretty pleased with the writing. And that's a serious problem.

aqgalaxy
10-29-2007, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by coolgal
I'm still wondering when is this clana kiss gonna happen. When clark caught her, i thought..oh he we go, finally. But no. The wait goes on, lol.

Maybe we won't get a Clana kiss this year :lol:

redraven
10-29-2007, 01:37 PM
Clark leaves a valuable gift on the fence for Shelby to piss on. I felt that was kind of rude...

After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville. It's getting dumb how Clark won't think outside of Smallville. Especially how he had to have Lana actually point out that there wasn't a million people in Smallville and that the WORLD needs him...:rolleyes:

When did Lois learn to hack and create access cards? Yay! First a contrived barn door incident getting her into journalism and now she's suddenly as good as Chloe hacking into computers!

Other then that I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. :)

Bub
10-29-2007, 04:11 PM
"Chloe whines about Jimmy (and Clark was utterly unsupportive)."

Aaaah women are truely are from Venus.

Is it me, or is it only the ladies that picked up on this. All the guys are like "what do you mean?"

Honey45
10-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Clark spending how many years of his life trying to stay out of the spotlight.. but offers up his farm for filming of a Hollywood movie for NO reason??
Then he lets the (presumably) A-list star stay in his living room??

Way to stay under the radar bud.

Theshadow129x
10-29-2007, 04:34 PM
i hated everything really....nuff said

chantal
10-30-2007, 11:48 PM
I didn't like the way they had Lionel suddenly become silly just to be able to continue the kidnap scenario. After Lionel smashed Marilyn over the head, why would he just run wildly into the woods? Since she was disabled for a moment at least, why wouldn't he have hit her again, or tied her up, and then set about getting out of there?

Lionel is the most consistently competent person on the show, and the least likely to panic.

TampaVille
10-31-2007, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by chantal
I didn't like the way they had Lionel suddenly become silly just to be able to continue the kidnap scenario. After Lionel smashed Marilyn over the head, why would he just run wildly into the woods? Since she was disabled for a moment at least, why wouldn't he have hit her again, or tied her up, and then set about getting out of there?

Lionel is the most consistently competent person on the show, and the least likely to panic.

You raise some good points, but for now I'm going to have to tentatively disagree with your conclusion. I'm not dead set on my opinion, but it warrants some discussion I believe. Here goes:

Facts: Lionel cleverly escapes, leaves his captor unconscious, runs wildly into the woods.

Your interpretation seems to imply that it would be better for Lionel if he'd tied up the crazy woman Marilyn. I'm not sure that's the case.

Lionel was very weak. He's probably lucky that he even knocked her out. It's possible that he was in danger of falling unconscious himself if he exerted himself too heavily, and he'd have known if he was at that point. Maybe tying her up would have been a risky physical exertion for him. I know the obvious response: "How was he able to run away then?" I'd argue that it was probably a challenge for him to run. Weighing the risk and reward of tying her up though, from his point of view, it would probably have been more important just to start running. If he is going to pass out at some point, he'll have covered more distance if he runs without tying her up than if he runs after tying her up.

He knew she had some sort of help (he saw her on the phone at one point). If the help was on site, then he was already pretty screwed. If the help wasn't on site, and he did tie her up, he'd be risking them arriving while he did so. Tying her up would take time. Plus, if he tied her up and then passed out, they could easily arrive while he was laying there unconscious.

Lionel didn't really care if Marylin stayed unconscious. He just needed to get far enough to signal for help, like a road or even a service phone. He didn't know where he was, but he could have even slipped into some hiding place if he felt himself slipping into unconsciousness, and the further he was from the house when that happened, the better.

I do respect your interpretation of events. I could easily be giving the writers too much credit with my own interpretation. I'm definitely not saying you are wrong, and I'm very curious to hear what you think after reading my opinion. Having watched the episode a couple times, and having read your interpretation though, I'm leaning towards my view.

I have no problem jumping on the creative staff when they do (regularly) mess things up. They do it far more often than they should. I've seen supernaturally themed shows which were made without the obvious glaring errors of SV, so I know it can be done. BUT, when the SV team isn't at fault, I like to give them their credit, and I think they might actually deserve it here. :)

AngelaV
10-31-2007, 12:24 AM
If you had an "All of the Above" option, I would've picked it. I'm the kind of fan that likes everything. For some reason this episode just fell flat for me. Too much going on maybe? I'm not sure. Or maybe I'm just annoyed with guest stars who I have no CLUE who they are! blah.
:)

Ginx
10-31-2007, 08:27 AM
so hard to choose.... leaving the cape outside, CK being too focused on Smallville (even if it's the name of the show), the CK/Lana is slow, or CK not caring about the Chimmy.

I liked the episode but could have done without a few things....... and I loved and hated the hardcore fan - I felt like it was fun to watch but on the other hand was more like a call-out to the fans to chill and lay off the hatin' of 'the superhero's girlfriend' dun dun dunnnnnnn....

Boschka
10-31-2007, 10:50 AM
1. The whole Kathy Bates " Misery " pot farm gig..She is supposed to have rescued Lionel..righty o. Even before we see the bear trap, it's bogus...why save someone and then try to rip them a new one aka silk sheets. When I saw this I wondered if there was a shark to be jumped.

2.Big movie star doesnt't have a stunt double, especially after the accident ? I'm sure the studio insurance company found that amusing.

3. Massage oil and all those candles..good one there gang..good thing Shelby wasn't bouncing around....and where the hell was Shelby ?

4. Only Lana would get thrown off a building and not be screaming her lungs out or makin with the flailing of the arms and legs...I half way expected to see the Acme Anvil following her boney butt .

aforgottenwish
11-01-2007, 02:44 AM
People keep mentioning the fact that Lana didn't scream... it might seem weird, but when I think about it, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have screamed. Obviously I haven't been thrown off a building lately, but I was rock climbing in BC a few months ago, and I fell a good twenty feet, and I didn't scream. In the same vein, when watching professional rock climbing videos, asides from a curse when the climber slips from a rock, there's generally no screaming while they fall. Sometimes, it's a really long way too, if they're lead climbing.

Ooother things annoyed me though. Clark seems to have fallen asleep as far as helping people goes... it really is as though the entire last season never happened, and he's back to only saving people when the accidents fall into his lap. Love really doesn't suit this boy, next thing we know he'll have stopped his farm chores in favour of couch-sitting.

Also, Chloe really has been getting the sh-it end of the stick lately. Clearly, the new Editor thinks that Lois is waaay hotter than her, because she is suddenly getting all the good assignments. Plus, Chloe is going through a bad break up, and even though she had to support both Lana and Clark during the Lana-and-Clark debacle that is the entire show, she apparently doesn't merit even a sympathetic glance.

But I don't know if that's bad writing or if Clark is supposed to be a jerk.

Maybe I'm missing something, but did we have any sort of Lana/Chloe reunion? They were best friends, and Chloe was Lana's wedding person, but now that Lana's back from the dead they don't hang anymore? When I think back, after Chloe came back from the 'dead' (after Crusade) Lana didn't really seem to notice either. Girls suck sometimes, I guess.

Wow, that turned into more of a rant than I meant it to. Sorry!

TampaVille
11-01-2007, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by aforgottenwish
People keep mentioning the fact that Lana didn't scream... it might seem weird, but when I think about it, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have screamed.


I can see where people are coming from with raising screaming as an issue, but you raise the excellent, if not necessarily obvious, response. Even if your explanation were not so compelling (it is), I still can't understand why the screaming issue has taken on such a following despite the far more obviously glaring errors the show regularly makes. I imagine that if Pete were written back onto the show, but he'd been recast as an 800 pound purple gorilla with blue nail polish, there might be a popular online debate about why Pete's nails were blue and not green.

At any rate, thank you for the rock climbing analogy! I didn't know that and find it very enlightening.




Ooother things annoyed me though. Clark seems to have fallen asleep as far as helping people goes... it really is as though the entire last season never happened, and he's back to only saving people when the accidents fall into his lap. Love really doesn't suit this boy, next thing we know he'll have stopped his farm chores in favour of couch-sitting.



Thank you! I suspect it may be a case of the "We don't know when the series is going to end" syndrome. If L&C taught us nothing else, it is that when a network is going through a strange time, shows can get unexpectedly cancelled, leaving the audience in a place the creators did not intend to leave it. From this point of view, perhaps they took us further in Season 6 than they wanted to, in case there were no Season 7? IF that theory is even partly true, I still can't justify their solution, which seems to be to just back up and pretend events didn't happen.

Clark made some really great steps. After the Brainiac computer virus, he worked himself half to death picking up the pieces. He manned up and fought off the phantoms. He even wanted to leave SV behind and go off with the Justice League. Only reason he stayed was to solve an even bigger problem. I can see Season 3 CK shirking his destiny to be with a pretty girl. I can't see Season 6 CK doing that though.



Also, Chloe really has been getting the sh-it end of the stick lately. Clearly, the new Editor thinks that Lois is waaay hotter than her, because she is suddenly getting all the good assignments. Plus, Chloe is going through a bad break up, and even though she had to support both Lana and Clark during the Lana-and-Clark debacle that is the entire show, she apparently doesn't merit even a sympathetic glance.

But I don't know if that's bad writing or if Clark is supposed to be a jerk.



He's not supposed to be a jerk. He's supposed to be a great, caring, sympathetic friend. It's bad writing.

Al and Miles are in love with Lana. They aren't in love with Chloe. When Lana has a problem, permanent midnight descends upon Smallville. When Chloe has a problem, life goes on.

Re: the Lois situation... they wrote themselves into a corner by having Lois begin on SV thoroughly uninterested in journalism. Around the time of the plot-device-sneeze-induced-flying-barn-door, I think they realized that there aren't many events which could both A) credibly compel somebody to pursue a passionate career in journalism such as the one Lois Lane is supposed to develop, and B) be easily portrayed on a weekly hour long show. Note the word "easily."

So they did what could be done easily. They just started writing her as that kind of person. Chloe was given to us in early seasons so that we could have a Lois Lane type character on the show. And thank goodness she was. Whatever the reasons, she was (and, I argue, continues to be, though not nearly as much so) a wonderful part of the show. AM is a wonderful actress, and I'm so glad she's still a prominent cast member.

Now that they have an actual Lois Lane, though, I think the producers are just fumbling around with Chloe, trying to figure out what role she can play. If she's too great with the DP stuff, she'll outshine Lois, and they don't want that. So where does that put her? Maybe that has something to do with the Chloe/Jimmy/Kara love triangle that was heavily hinted at for two episodes, and then ignored completely. Or maybe they're relegating her firmly to the role of sidekick (as she was in this episode). Or maybe the writer for Action simply didn't know what to do with Chloe. Who knows? I do love SV, but attention to these sort of details is, frankly, quite beyond the SV creators capabilities.




Maybe I'm missing something, but did we have any sort of Lana/Chloe reunion? They were best friends, and Chloe was Lana's wedding person, but now that Lana's back from the dead they don't hang anymore? When I think back, after Chloe came back from the 'dead' (after Crusade) Lana didn't really seem to notice either. Girls suck sometimes, I guess.



Some people don't see the lack of a Chloe/Lana reunion as an issue. Mostly, from what I've noticed, that's because the person either hates the Chloe character, or hates the Lana character, and wants one or the other of them to be on screen as little as possible. I think you hit the nail on the head though. They were best friends. They both returned from the dead! They're both credited cast members. They've both been with us since the very first episode. Heck, they both know Clark's secret! That's a badge of distinction on the show just as much as any other. No matter how much anybody might dislike the characters, they're both integral parts of the show, and the relationship between the two of them has been built up over the years into something very powerful and important. It is nothing short of sloppy to simply imply that their reunion happened off camera, without even a passing mention.




Wow, that turned into more of a rant than I meant it to. Sorry!

Don't be sorry! I ranted far more than you did. :)

M0RGAN
11-14-2007, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by chantal
I didn't like the way they had Lionel suddenly become silly just to be able to continue the kidnap scenario. After Lionel smashed Marilyn over the head, why would he just run wildly into the woods? Since she was disabled for a moment at least, why wouldn't he have hit her again, or tied her up, and then set about getting out of there?

Lionel is the most consistently competent person on the show, and the least likely to panic.
Actually, I don't think Lionel had the option of tying Marilyn up. After all, his right wrist was broken & his hand was caught in a rabbit trap for who knows how long. (Days, weeks, months?) Then, he was obviously weakened to some degree from his ordeal with the dam & his imprisonment.

I think his only option would have been to take her out as fast as he could & make a break for it.

alejandrita439
08-01-2008, 02:41 PM
After all that's happened Clark still can't think outside Smallville.