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StrangeVisitor1979
10-24-2007, 08:39 PM
Rachel awarded Clark with (duh) a red cape and he just happened to be wearing the blue t-shirt. I swear I was grinning from ear to ear thinking 'won't be long now.' Seeing him walk away from the cape hanging over the fence was iconic. That's his destiny blowing in the wind, and it links up to that episode back in Season Three about a cape blowing in the wind, only you could see a yellow S. Then again, STAS and the Alex Ross design of Superman didn't have a yellow S, so maybe we're looking at the template for what will become an integral part of Superman's costume. Now all farmboy has to do is learn how to fly.
CountryGirl84
10-24-2007, 08:45 PM
Yeah but what about the "I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm" I feel like he is farther away form his destiny than ever and its all Lana's fault and whats WORSE is that she knows it now and is STILL doing it.
Kreukie
10-24-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by CountryGirl84
Yeah but what about the "I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm" I feel like he is farther away form his destiny than ever and its all Lana's fault and whats WORSE is that she knows it now and is STILL doing it.
Lana can leave now and Clark still wouldn't be able to do anything about his destiny because it's Kara that holding him off from doing anything.
If you haven't forgotten, Jor-El asked Clark to stay in Smallville and take care of Kara.
So even if Lana was dead, even if Lana didn't return, even if Lana showed no interest in Clark, Clark would still be stuck in Smallville.
Back in season six Lana was nowhere near Clark all season and I don't recall him getting up and embracing his destiny and moving forward and becoming who he's meant to be... because if he actually did that, he wouldn't be in Smallville.
So people seriously need to stop using Lana as the one and ONLY reason Clark hasn't gotten off his butt and done something with himself.
Last I checked, if it wasn't for Lana there wouldn't be a FOS for Clark to train at to begin with... so continue blaming her and only her for everything wrong with Clark not embracing himself.
paolinki25
10-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Kara is AlMiles' excuse to keep the fans quiet. We know the main reason why Clark is staying now is Lana. Plain and simple.
theotherJane
10-24-2007, 09:35 PM
"I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm"
Clark's the one that thinks it and he's the one that said it. At the end of the day, everyone makes decisions for themselves.
Not really Lana's fault.
CountryGirl84
10-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Kreukie
Lana can leave now and Clark still wouldn't be able to do anything about his destiny because it's Kara that holding him off from doing anything.
If you haven't forgotten, Jor-El asked Clark to stay in Smallville and take care of Kara.
ummmm so if Clark's reason for staying in Smallville is to take care of Kara and that he's only fulfilling Jor-el's wishes then why the heck isn't he out LOOKING for KARA so he can look after her. Last time I checked sitting at home on his butt playing with Hollywood actresses and playing happy homemaker with Lana did NOT fit the definition of "taking care of Kara".....
or do you want to argue that he's doing a good job following his fathers wishes by caring only about having everything he's ever wanted right there on the farm?
Kreukie
10-24-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by paolinki25
Kara is AlMiles' excuse to keep the fans quiet. We know the main reason why Clark is staying now is Lana. Plain and simple.
Actually of all the years I've watched this show, regardless what Almiles do people will complain about Lana regardless.
Again, Lana wasn't near Clark most of season six and dare to say season four and I don't recall him embracing anything.
There was no Lana to hold him back, he was free to do as he wanted.
Clark been holding himself back from who he is since season one, when Lana wasn't even a huge factor in his personal life.
So why people continue to blame Lana and only Lana, who again is one of the reasons FOS came to be, is confusing to me.
Twitch
10-24-2007, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by theotherJane
"I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm"
Clark's the one that thinks it and he's the one that said it. At the end of the day, everyone makes decisions for themselves.
Not really Lana's fault.
Exactly, everyone is always putting the blame on someone for Clark not 'accepting his destiny', when in fact that decision has and always will be Clark's.
paolinki25
10-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by theotherJane
"I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm"
Clark's the one that thinks it and he's the one that said it. At the end of the day, everyone makes decisions for themselves.
Not really Lana's fault.
Yeah, but it's exactly this illusion he has in his head that he can have a normal life with Lana that's keeping him from seeing beyond of what he has now. I'm not saying it's Lana's fault as in "YOu have to stay with me, Clark! Never leave. You hear me?" kinda way. It's more about Clark not realizing Lana is just no the girl for him and that there are better, bigger, more important things out there than growing old with Lana.
Kreukie
10-24-2007, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Twitch
Exactly, everyone is always putting the blame on someone for Clark not 'accepting his destiny', when in fact that decision has and always will be Clark's.
My main point with season four and six. Lana not much of a factor in Clark's life and he was still running from his destiny in those seasons.
Jor-El made Clark into Kal to get the FOS going and what did Clark do all season when it came to the stones... NOTHING.
It was actually the work of Jason/Lana/Lex/Gwen that created the FOS.
All Clark did was put the stones together at the very end.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by paolinki25
Yeah, but it's exactly this illusion he has in his head that he can have a normal life with Lana that's keeping him from seeing beyond of what he has now. I'm not saying it's Lana's fault as in "YOu have to stay with me, Clark! Never leave. You hear me?" kinda way. It's more about Clark not realizing Lana is just no the girl for him and that there are better, bigger, more important things out there than growing old with Lana.
That goes beyond Lana, Clark has always had an issue with who he is from the very beginning.
Can you imagine growing up and not being able to have a birthday party or play sports or have a real social life until your later teens?
:confused:
In Leech he was happy when he fell down during basketball, due to being able to feel pain for the first time.
Again Clark wanting to be normal goes beyond Lana... so to blame her and only her for the way Clark act is unfair.
Even as Superman, Clark always reminding himself of who he is and what he's meant to be... so the emotions of wanting to be normal don't overwhelm him whenever he desires it.
We saw examples of this in Superman Returns and mostly in Superman 2.
CountryGirl84
10-24-2007, 10:08 PM
I think Lana is this image for him though, this life that he's put up on a pedestal and even when she wasn't the main factor in his life in previous seasons, that image of being with her has always been there. Wasn't there that episode where he said he loved her from the day he met her?
So I think why fans latch onto her as the problem is that Clark uses Lana as that image of his ideal life that he is running away from his destiny for.
You are ENTIRELY right that this is Clark's fault too, but her actions are not helping him at all. I think what people want out of her is to help him toward his destiny instead of being selfish and wanting him to herself. She tried in tonights episode to be that person but she just doesn't have the strength of character. She never has and I don't think she ever will.
velocity
10-25-2007, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I think Lana is this image for him though, this life that he's put up on a pedestal and even when she wasn't the main factor in his life in previous seasons, that image of being with her has always been there. Wasn't there that episode where he said he loved her from the day he met her?
So I think why fans latch onto her as the problem is that Clark uses Lana as that image of his ideal life that he is running away from his destiny for.
You are ENTIRELY right that this is Clark's fault too, but her actions are not helping him at all. I think what people want out of her is to help him toward his destiny instead of being selfish and wanting him to herself. She tried in tonights episode to be that person but she just doesn't have the strength of character. She never has and I don't think she ever will.
Not true, if Lana helps Clark towards his destiny there'll just be another outburst; "WTF, LANA LANG SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A MINOR REASON FOR CLARK TO PURSUE HIS DESTINY!!!"
you know i'm right.
SOnMyChest
10-25-2007, 07:00 AM
You guys are all right about this destiny thing except for one thing! He has promised to fulfill his destiny now! He has told us! unlike before when WE just wanted him to. He has now said it himself!
StrangeVisitor1979
10-25-2007, 07:43 AM
For those who didn't read the John Byrne revamp of Superman's origin in Man Of Steel, Lana has a line that's similar to her endorsement of Clark's destiny: "You can't belong to one woman. Superman belongs to the world."
Honey45
10-25-2007, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by CountryGirl84
Yeah but what about the "I have everything I ever wanted right here on the farm" I feel like he is farther away form his destiny than ever and its all Lana's fault and whats WORSE is that she knows it now and is STILL doing it.
I don't think it's Lana's fault.
She's adressed the fact that she doesn't want to be the one holding Clark back from his destiny. She was willing to break up for him to, what we know as, become Superman.
The only person holding Clark back now is Clark.
Originally posted by velocity
Not true, if Lana helps Clark towards his destiny there'll just be another outburst; "WTF, LANA LANG SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A MINOR REASON FOR CLARK TO PURSUE HIS DESTINY!!!"
you know i'm right.
I agree.
Lana could die a painful death and be completely out of the show, and people would STILL complain about her.
"Lana's memory is holding Clark back!!"
:rolleyes:
dh1031
10-25-2007, 02:52 PM
Clark hasn't gotten off his butt and done something with himself.I'm a little biased having grown up on a farm, but Clark seems to have a nice enough life to me.
So why people continue to blame Lana and only Lana, who again is one of the reasons FOS came to be, is confusing to me.Not really, she got in Clark's way in getting the crystal in China back in season 4. I'm not for the whole Clark and Lana relationship bit b/c it's been strung out like the bit on the Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman series, but the development of the Lana character into this Luthor-like scheming person is interesting.
CountryGirl84
10-25-2007, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by SOnMyChest
You guys are all right about this destiny thing except for one thing! He has promised to fulfill his destiny now! He has told us! unlike before when WE just wanted him to. He has now said it himself!
Actions speak louder than words though. He's not behaving like someone who has vowed to fulfill his destiny now that Lana is back, he's just a googlie eyed school boy again.
I think what you guys are saying about fans never being happy with Lana is right, but people are starting to get unhappy with a lot in Smallville. It seems as if the characters have overstayed their welcome in this limbo before they go on to be the adult characters we know they should be. They've been done school for a while now and at this point they're basically adults... How old is he supposed to be when he decides to leave smallville? Does anyone know roughly?
Clana4Life
10-25-2007, 03:16 PM
According to Superman: The Movie, 18 years old. Happens shortly after Jonathan Kent dies. So we've missed that deadline by about two or three years now. By this time Lana should be close to marrying a football jock by now. Maybe Whitney's really alive and has been held captive as a POW. There are so many comic book versions about when and how Clark decides to leave Smallville. Heck there may even be a version were Clark marries Lana and there is no Lois in the picture or Lois is married to Lex. I wish someone would write a comic about that.
By the way, loved the line about Lana-haters still complaining even if Lana was dead. That's so funny, "Curses to Lana's memory. Even in death she still holds him back." LOL :)
CountryGirl84
10-25-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by velocity
Not true, if Lana helps Clark towards his destiny there'll just be another outburst; "WTF, LANA LANG SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A MINOR REASON FOR CLARK TO PURSUE HIS DESTINY!!!"
you know i'm right.
hm yes probably but I think they would be far less justified in complaining about this than about her lying to him and making him falsely think he can have this perfect life in smallville that is just not meant for him
Originally posted by Clana4Life
By the way, loved the line about Lana-haters still complaining even if Lana was dead. That's so funny, "Curses to Lana's memory. Even in death she still holds him back." LOL :)
:lol: can I make that my new name? I like it. No I'm totally kidding actually, but people will hate me. No one can take a joke around here when it comes to ships.
Blue_Beetle_87
10-25-2007, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Kreukie
Back in season six Lana was nowhere near Clark all season and I don't recall him getting up and embracing his destiny and moving forward and becoming who he's meant to be... because if he actually did that, he wouldn't be in Smallville.
So people seriously need to stop using Lana as the one and ONLY reason Clark hasn't gotten off his butt and done something with himself.
As i remember lil Clarkie had a small problem with some uninvited guests from the Phantom Zone......
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 06:25 PM
....I'm just kidding...:D
I think they're foreshadowing Lana's death...Thoughts?
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 06:27 PM
I'm convinced that the talk between lex and Clark holds a foreshadowing to Lana's fate.
Warrior Angels Girlfriend getting way over her head; getting shot. Mundane, unexpected, but fully possible.
I think this is what will occur to Lana or something to this degree. I fully agree with her being over her head part; and what better way than to really drive the wedge between Clark and Lex's relationship than by Lex taking Lana's life?
It would also show ruthlessness and the evil that will be Lex Luthor.
Luthor5339
10-25-2007, 06:28 PM
Definitely. Warrior Angel has always been a reflection on the Smallville mythos. The best friends become mortal enemies and etc. Now Lana is trying to uncover Lex's dark secret, Lex finds out and kills Lana- that is practically what they just hinted at and we already know one of the both has come true already- Lana's investigation.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 06:30 PM
And the death of Lana will bring Lois and Clark together...
Timester
10-25-2007, 06:31 PM
All the episode was foreshadowing, except that part. I really doubt that Lana will die, especially now that she is a villain.
Lana isn't investigating Lex, she is spying on him. Lana is on a crusade to hurt the Luthors.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Timester
All the episode was foreshadowing, except that part. I really doubt that Lana will die, especially now that she is a villain.
She's hardly a villain, but she's getting there...I think she should die...I'm only saying that because it seems like that's what the scene was about...
Timester
10-25-2007, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
She's hardly a villain, but she's getting there...I think she should die...I'm only saying that because it seems like that's what the scene was about...
If you saw the episode already, you will get why she is a full-blown villain already.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 06:38 PM
I'm watching...but I will really be upset if she lives...just because she lives in the comics doesn't mean she has to live on the tv show! Haha...
Bosrudorfer
10-25-2007, 06:39 PM
Lana's 3rd death? Phhhfff I don't think they will because that would be super corny
Bosrudorfer
10-25-2007, 06:44 PM
I've said it already but I don't think they will. A 3rd Lana death is just too gay. How many times can you kill a person?
KU Superdude
10-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
....I'm just kidding...:D
I think they're foreshadowing Lana's death...Thoughts?
Well, it looks like they just foreshadowed it for this episode. I think the dead Lana theory is dead.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 07:01 PM
We'll see....
aqgalaxy
10-25-2007, 07:05 PM
Soooooooo this episode was really a meta... what is showed...
Clark wants to remain in smallville because of Lana (doesn't even complies with his training to watch over Kara... just hopes she comes home on her own time... sheesh)
Chloe thins Clark would one day be a hero, and it seems she's doubting herself for thinking it.
Lois is now under Lex's radar and something is growing between her and Grant.
Lana is purely using Clark for him to be her personal body guard... what happened to Lana's Kung Fu skills when taking on Ben?
KU Superdude
10-25-2007, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Bosrudorfer
I've said it already but I don't think they will. A 3rd Lana death is just too gay. How many times can you kill a person?
Exactly! This is why I know Lana will live just like in the comics. Killing her a third time would leave fans confused on the possibility that it's been faked again. It's lost its effect now.
TWLOVER03
10-25-2007, 07:08 PM
Lana has died 11 times in the enitre series, what would one more hurt?
you_smell_terrific
10-25-2007, 07:08 PM
Omg :O!! I said the same thing in the live thread :D!! Cool to hear others thought so
Bosrudorfer
10-25-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by TWLOVER03
Lana has died 11 times in the enitre series, what would one more hurt?
Really? LOL
Wow I didn't know that... well anyhow they just killed her last season for the finale. Would they do it again so soon?
Hendo
10-25-2007, 07:14 PM
I think they seriously foreshadowed that she's going to die. Especially with that conversation at the end when Clark said that everything he's ever wanted is right there on the farm with him
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 07:14 PM
But when has she ever been shot? Remember what Lex said something no one expected?
Lana's deaths have always involved something freakish, some natural accident, some explosion, something that wasn't simplistic, something that you would never consider a high level villain to do.
Would you expect Doctor Doom to shoot anyone in the fantastic four? Or Magneto, Or any other powerful villain?
They go through these elaborate means never something as i said...mundane.
aqgalaxy
10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Only one girl was shot/ killed in front of Clark and died in his arms and that was Chloe in Lab...
But the deal is we need to look at this whole episode as foreshadowing...
If WA's girl dies... in the comics but is saved in the Show...
Could it be said that Lois Lane will live in the comics but die on the show... you know like ah..
In the show, it stays true for the entire mythos, except for one thing. In the comics he winds up with lois. In the show he doesn't
iheartCK4eva
10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
I CANT WAIT TIL LANA IS DEAD HONESTLY
TWLOVER03
10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Me neither, Lana must die! *twitches*
aqgalaxy
10-25-2007, 07:16 PM
She's like SV's Kenny no matter what you do she's back in the next episode
strmbldr317
10-25-2007, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Mischael12
But when has she ever been shot? Remember what Lex said something no one expected?
Lana's deaths have always involved something freakish, some natural accident, some explosion, something that wasn't simplistic, something that you would never consider a high level villain to do.
Would you expect Doctor Doom to shoot anyone in the fantastic four? Or Magneto, Or any other powerful villain?
They go through these elaborate means never something as i said...mundane.
Lana was shot in the episode "Noir" with Jimmy as the lead character.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 07:20 PM
^^^ That's kind of true, but at some point, they have to realize when a character has run its course. This could apply to anyone, but right now, it applies mostly to Lana because they've been on and off how many times now? Even Chloe is more important at this point...Even Lois..but Lana has no real purpose. By the way, she's lost it! I saw her sociopathic smile when Lionel confronted her...she's insane!
chlark4ever02
10-25-2007, 07:22 PM
i know right
ok when did chloe find out that lana is alive?
Alexander III
10-25-2007, 07:23 PM
In the comic she's married to Sam Jones III, wut a lucky guy! So whether she dies or not, I really dun care, as long as she's not married to him in smallville!!
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 07:24 PM
I don't know, but maybe her "scoop" they've been hinting about is that Lana is officially insane...
SecretzNLyz15
10-25-2007, 07:26 PM
DC is not going to hand over the rights to kill one of their mythos characters. This forshadowed Lana letting Clark go because she knows that the world needs him, not that she's going to die.
uhhuhhim
10-25-2007, 07:28 PM
What do you mean "hand over the rights?"
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 08:24 PM
she was shot but did she die? Its not the same this is by Lex's hand.
THe whole point isn't her death its by who its being done. Lex the ultimate villain, and Clark failure to save her him the ultimate hero.
Possible Parallels people...sheesh.
We get all this talk so far the season about how Clark will outlive her, than this episode of her holding him back.
And please as well Lex quoting Devilicus or whatever his name was? Seriously if Lana doesn't die by Lex's hands i'll be sorely disappointed.
fxrsteve
10-25-2007, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Mischael12
she was shot but did she die? Its not the same this is by Lex's hand.
THe whole point isn't her death its by who its being done. Lex the ultimate villain, and Clark failure to save her him the ultimate hero.
Possible Parallels people...sheesh.
We get all this talk so far the season about how Clark will outlive her, than this episode of her holding him back.
And please as well Lex quoting Devilicus or whatever his name was? Seriously if Lana doesn't die by Lex's hands i'll be sorely disappointed.
me too
xrayvision
10-25-2007, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Mischael12
I'm convinced that the talk between lex and Clark holds a foreshadowing to Lana's fate.
Warrior Angels Girlfriend getting way over her head; getting shot. Mundane, unexpected, but fully possible.
I think this is what will occur to Lana or something to this degree. I fully agree with her being over her head part; and what better way than to really drive the wedge between Clark and Lex's relationship than by Lex taking Lana's life?
It would also show ruthlessness and the evil that will be Lex Luthor.
I loved that scene. I thought of the same thing. But I think Lana died too many times already. Clark should already know from Reckoning what a danger Lex is to her. But then again, you never know.
Coyote
10-25-2007, 08:29 PM
It's more likely Chloe will be killed off than Lana, if anyone gets killed at all.
msleggie
10-25-2007, 08:40 PM
I was thinking the same thing, Lana won't be the one to go. I just hope that no one has to die and Lex was really just telling Clark about Warrior Angel.
paolinki25
10-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Lana is like the Cigarette Smoking Man in the X-Files. Unfortunately, he never dies. Same thing with Lana. I doubt they're gonna kill her again
xrayvision
10-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
It's more likely Chloe will be killed off than Lana, if anyone gets killed at all.
I think any death by Lex's hand is obvious. It will be Lionel unfortunately.
superspider02
10-25-2007, 08:51 PM
yea they have killed these characters so many dam times.
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 09:01 PM
She hasn't died! Theres a difference between being at deaths door and actually walking in. Lana has always come to a point of death but we always expect Clark to swoop in to save the day. This would totally be so unexpected.
Lex pulling the trigger, Clark rushing to save the day but this time he doesn't deflect or catch the bullet; or better yet he deflects it and it hits Lana.
Do you know how many of us would just go "NO WAY" Lana actually is going to die!
smallviluva
10-25-2007, 09:04 PM
i dont theyll kill lana off again, but i think theyre going to rid of her somehow, but with her n clarks feelings for eachother the same, like i dout theyll ruin all the 7yrs theyve worked on to end in bittereness or hatred, or not loving.. so wat i think is that she ends up leaving cuz she knows she is the 1 keeping clark from his destiny, n she loves him to much to stand in the way. like itll come to a point where she has to make the utlimate decision to either be with clark or love him enough to let him go.any thoughts?
SteveS
10-25-2007, 09:05 PM
I think a better suggestion in the grand scheme of things is that it is lois that bites the dust, not Lana and certainly not Chloe.
SolShine7
10-25-2007, 09:20 PM
Major foreshadowing.
http://scifijournalist.blogspot.com
svtwamedfan05
10-25-2007, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by TWLOVER03
Lana has died 11 times in the enitre series, what would one more hurt?
I totally agree:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 09:42 PM
...she's never died!...jeez when has she actually died? They aren't going to kill her again they actually are going to kill her.
Superbeard
10-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Did anyone else catch Lex's voice sounding lower again?
Originally posted by Mischael12
...she's never died!...jeez when has she actually died? They aren't going to kill her again they actually are going to kill her.
She's actually died (for real) twice. Once in Reckoning and once in Noir. ( even if it was just in Jimmy's dream) Three times if you count when she willingly flatlined to see the ghosts of her parents in Void.
Am I missing any?
xrayvision
10-25-2007, 10:03 PM
She also died in Void.
Originally posted by Superbeard
Did anyone else catch Lex's voice sounding lower again?
If you mean his voice's tone when telling Clark about the Warrior Angel comics and what happened in the various issues, then I definitely caught that. There was an evil tone, definitely showing that he knew what Lana was up to.
JEWCY
10-25-2007, 10:04 PM
To me when Lex and Clark were discussing the death of Warrior Angel, it seemed to me a parallel to what happened in Reckoning-especially the part of Warrior Angel seeing his girlfriend die in his arms-exactly what happened in Reckoning. Granted it wasnt a bullet (i dont knwow if that was the exact term, but i know it wasnt a car crash, the way Lana died in Reckoning.) I thought that was very interesting the way they did that.
Mischael12
10-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Was reversed; a Dream; and clinical death. In each case it wasn't an absolute it wasn't a season finale; i'm seeing this one as a season finale death, but all right when it happens dont say i didn't tell ya lol.
strmbldr317
10-26-2007, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Mischael12
she was shot but did she die? Its not the same this is by Lex's hand.
THe whole point isn't her death its by who its being done. Lex the ultimate villain, and Clark failure to save her him the ultimate hero.
Possible Parallels people...sheesh.
We get all this talk so far the season about how Clark will outlive her, than this episode of her holding him back.
And please as well Lex quoting Devilicus or whatever his name was? Seriously if Lana doesn't die by Lex's hands i'll be sorely disappointed.
The question wasn't whether she died...it was whether she was shot...and she was in "Noir".
As far as her "deaths" are concerned, she only died once and that was in "Reckoning". Any other time, she's been close to dying.
Originally posted by SteveS
I think a better suggestion in the grand scheme of things is that it is lois that bites the dust, not Lana and certainly not Chloe.
Seriously....eat it! Lois doesn't effin' die...and she's the one who Clark ends up with....GET OVER IT!
ginnyfan
10-26-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't know if it's foreshadowing or not but I loved the way Lex savored telling the story. Oh that was delicious. :)
ginnyfan
10-26-2007, 01:25 AM
Hasn't Lana already died like five times?
*yawn*
SecretzNLyz15
10-26-2007, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
What do you mean "hand over the rights?"
DC owns the Lana Lang character. They have to allow Al/Miles to kill off Lana, they can't just do it because they want to.
maryjanewatson
10-26-2007, 02:29 AM
wow, a couple of post there are sounding a lot like some crazy blog people from the episode......
guess no one learned anything tonight. *tisk*
vikingjedi
10-26-2007, 03:41 AM
Killing Lana defeats the whole purpose of Clark making a choice. He has to want to be Superman and Lana has to be alive
Blue_Beetle_87
10-26-2007, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
She's like SV's Kenny no matter what you do she's back in the next episode
Or Cartman- A real pain in the ass :lol:
Yeah unfortunately they cant klll her off for good, just like they couldn't kill Pete Ross. since the Mytho's say otherwise.
margroks
10-26-2007, 08:21 AM
It's Clark's fault for buying this horrible girl as somehow so fantastic she's worth abandonning everything he should be doing. Lana has always known she can con Clark into anything; she's a backstabbing spycho who manipulated everyon around her into doing her bidding and worshipping the ground she stands on. There is nothing about her that warrants the worship of everyone in the universe and Clark should know better. He should be able to see Lana never supports him and only makes demands and used him and everyone else. But he lets it slide, givces her a pass on everything (almost letting Lex die when she couls have saved him, never questioning her about the alleged embelzzelment, allowing her to stay at the farm whenshe has tons of money, illgotten or not. At some point, Clark has to take responsibility and wise up and send Lana packing. He's a moron for taking this long to see her as she really is. There is no real excuse for it. You know the old saying? Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, prepare for doom. Well, that's the Klingon version but you get the idea. Clark needs to wise up and dump her ass for good.
chlo-el
10-26-2007, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Twitch
Exactly, everyone is always putting the blame on someone for Clark not 'accepting his destiny', when in fact that decision has and always will be Clark's.
It's not really Lana persay it's Clark's love for Lana and wanting to have a normal life with her that is holding him back.
And it's his view of her as this perfect innocent girl that he has to protect that is holding him back.
Dor el
10-26-2007, 08:34 AM
Few of us make major decisions without at least some input from those we love and trust. Lana is, in fact, influencing Clark. Whether she intends to or not and whether either she or Clark realize it.
svtwamedfan05
10-26-2007, 02:25 PM
Of course Lana's influencing him and not in a good way either
Valerie
10-26-2007, 02:47 PM
Actually it is the writers of Smallville who have created such a needy, I-am-a-beautiful-innocent-orphan-who-will-never-be-held-responsible-fo-her-actions type of character. But is she responsible for Clark turning his back on his destiny? No. He is an adult now, and should be capable of making his own decisions. However the writers have made him seem blind, deaf, and dumb in his relationship with Lana.
Mello Penelo
10-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Blue_Beetle_87
As i remember lil Clarkie had a small problem with some uninvited guests from the Phantom Zone......
And the only reason he didn't scour the globe looking for them was because he was stuck in his loft in Smallville, throwing his ball against the wall, whining over Lana marrying Lex.
Dor el
10-26-2007, 08:30 PM
I just rewatched the last scene between Lana and Clark. The one just after Lionel called Lana on her true intentions and the risks she is taking.
Lana knows....
She knows that she and Clark will never live happily ever after. Between Ben's comments and Lionel;s warnings and the way Rachel kept referring to Clark as the real super hero, Lana knows her days with Clark are numbered. The expression on her face and the weak little "OK" said it all.
Similar thoughts have penetrated Clark's thick skull as well. He just refuses to admit it. I think this episode not only forshadowed Superman and his destiny, but also Lana and her destiny. Her destiny does not seem to be happy.
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