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Kid Collins

10-24-2007, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
All those little, cute moments are all contaminated by Lana's lies now. It will all fall apart eventually. Like Lionel said, Lana is playing a very dangerous game.

I'm not worried about that now.

All I know is that people that have watched this are doing happy dances because of how amazing Clana was in this ep.

And they also said that the Clana rescue scene is one of the best SV scenes they've seen. It's suppose to be amazing!

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 09:01 PM

You mean people who like Clana. Well, of course they are. ;)

Kid Collins

10-24-2007, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
You mean people who like Clana. Well, of course they are. ;)

I can't comment until I see the ep.

But I'll make that judgement tomorrow.

And I'll make sure I start a thread on it if it's amazing. :D

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 09:28 PM

She's sneaky dirty and crazy and that's all I can say.

You'd think now that she's on Clark's farm now she could let it go but no.
Crazy Lana has never sunk so low.

Clark will never look at her the same once he finds out

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Clark will never look at her the same once he finds out

I'd like to believe he wont, but I'm pretty sure he'll find the whole thing endearing. It's Lana, afterall. :rolleyes:

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
All those little, cute moments are all contaminated by Lana's lies now. It will all fall apart eventually. Like Lionel said, Lana is playing a very dangerous game.

yeah... so true, and I don't really know what the happy dances from the Clana fans are about because its such a fake Clana. If I was a Clana fan I would be SO mad about it right now because what all the fans have been asking for is a REAL chance for them and this is very very far from it. Lana is beyond just lying to Clark... He poured his heart out to her and all she could do was say ok and walk away. No kiss, no I love you. NOTHING, because its not real. If it was real they'd be all over each other like back when Clark had no powers... She can't even touch him because of the web of dirty lies she's created.

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 09:47 PM

Clark doesn't know about her fakeness and what she has done things will change I'm sure when he finds out.

Let's hope the dumb farm boy doesn't take long to get a clue

monstra

10-24-2007, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
yeah... so true, and I don't really know what the happy dances from the Clana fans are about because its such a fake Clana. If I was a Clana fan I would be SO mad about it right now because what all the fans have been asking for is a REAL chance for them and this is very very far from it. Lana is beyond just lying to Clark... He poured his heart out to her and all she could do was say ok and walk away. No kiss, no I love you. NOTHING, because its not real. If it was real they'd be all over each other like back when Clark had no powers... She can't even touch him because of the web of dirty lies she's created.

Uh, we're happy because Kristin and Tom's chemistry was fantastic today, and as Clana fans, we tend to enjoy that. :)

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 09:53 PM

Oh, don't get me wrong, monstra I'm happy you guys are enjoying your moment now. :) All I'm saying is that it's unfortunate, because there are all these lies and secrets behind the cuteness of it all. It's pretty similar to Lexana last year. Lexana fans were all happy about Lexana having sex and being cute in the Halloween party, when behind, there were all these lies and secrets. You know, it kinda puts a damper on the whole thing.

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 09:58 PM

Oh I'm not saying that they didn't have good scenes and great acting and well written scenes. The Clana is painfully superficial though and if I were a Clana fan I wouldn't be content with it. Clark is all cute and lovey dovey but Lana is SO not, she's just really fake because you know the back story that is going on. You know she's not really giving it a true try with Clark and thats why she can't even bring herself to touch him. He tells her he has everything he EVER wanted and she can't even hug him let alone kiss him. The man just poured his heart out onto the floor and all she does is walk away. HOW is that CLANA chemistry?

SparkleforSmallville

10-24-2007, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by monstra
Uh, we're happy because Kristin and Tom's chemistry was fantastic today, and as Clana fans, we tend to enjoy that. :)
H*ll Yeah! Love that TW & KK chemistry:p

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 10:00 PM

But it's fake. Fake as can be poor Clark loves a crazy woman
Let's see how he feels when he finds out everything

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:05 PM

He'll freak out and start hating her, and perhaps will start cheating on Lana with Chloe. Now wouldn't that make the CH-LARK FANS HAPPY??

Kreukie

10-24-2007, 10:05 PM

The way Lana feels towards Clark isn't fake nor as what Clark feels for Lana.

So I don't see the Clana scenes as being fake.

Lana isn't off trying to do harm to Clark, she trying to do harm to someone else and lying about it to Clark due to how she most likely feels how Clark will react to it.

Lana isn't evil, she couldn't even kill Lex when she had a chance to and in her scene with Lionel she looked really broken up with what she gotten herself into.

The difference between her and Lex is Lex doesn't seem to truly regret what he does, while Lana does.

Who don't know the full story as to what Lana is doing, so until then I'm not going to be calling her evil or a b*itch.

Since Lana not meant to be any of those things, she's a friend to Superman and always has been.

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:07 PM

Yup friend it is, nuthing more to it. Clark and Lana are not destined to be a couple. Reality Check! But I wish Lana was evil...that would've been sooo cool!

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 10:10 PM

That shovel across the head could have killed Lionel. Is that something Clark would approve of?

Or approve of holding him in a trap by a crazy woman. Oh wait I have it wrong, Marilyn isn't crazy she was being paid by the real crazy woman. hahahahahaha

supermanprimeE2

10-24-2007, 10:12 PM

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
That shovel across the head could have killed Lionel. Is that something Clark would approve of?

Or approve of holding him in a trap by a crazy woman. Oh wait I have it wrong, Marilyn isn't crazy she was being paid by the real crazy woman. hahahahahaha

Amen to that, Lana is CRRRRRRRRRRAZY!!

supermanprimeE2

10-24-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by supermanprimeE2
OMG. I not even going to respond to that I heard this board was a hater for Clana and Lana but Man I didnt know it was this extreme. Wow that really all I have to say

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 10:19 PM

Clark CANNOT approve Lana trying to murder people. It doesn't matter if she regrets it or not. He can forgive her for doing all those crazy things, but he will also let her know she's following a path he cannot follow and although they can still be friends, he cannot have a romantic relationship with a woman like this.

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:21 PM

After wut Lana did, I dun think Clark would react in a positive way. When Clark finds out the truth about Lana, it'll be by then the end of Clana, the love will shatter in pieces. Like a glass shatters on the ground and Shelby will finally come out and LAUGH at it!

Absentee

10-24-2007, 10:29 PM

Yeeaah. Let's not forget the awful things the Luthors did to her last season because apparently Lana isn't allowed to feel angry.

So what if the girl wants to seek some kind of revenge. Wouldn't you? You mean to tell me if you were her you'd just let it go? Come on.

And Lana is allowed to make mistakes and act on her feelings. She can't help it. She was hurt and she has every right to go after the people who caused her to feel that way even if it means breaking the law. Is it right? Absolutely not. But she's only human. She'll realize it soon enough that revenge is not the way to resolve things.

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 10:32 PM

Fake as can be poor Clark loves a crazy woman

Yeah Lionel called this one in tonights episode!

He'll freak out and start hating her, and perhaps will start cheating on Lana with Chloe.
That'd be awesome! She could be his rebound girl... or wait that would be... so NOT awesome....

Lana isn't off trying to do harm to Clark, she trying to do harm to someone else and lying about it to Clark due to how she most likely feels how Clark will react to it.

Lana isn't evil, she couldn't even kill Lex when she had a chance to and in her scene with Lionel she looked really broken up with what she gotten herself into.

The difference between her and Lex is Lex doesn't seem to truly regret what he does, while Lana does.......Since Lana not meant to be any of those things, she's a friend to Superman and always has been.

If what they really had was real love she would feel like she could tell him anything.

Lana couldn't kill Lex because she still has feelings for him
She feels regret because she isn't completely over the edge of evil yet, as Lionel saw immediately.

And since when has Smallville stuck to how characters were supposed to be. Thats laughable. None of these characters are truly how they were "meant to be"

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Absentee
So what if the girl wants to seek some kind of revenge. Wouldn't you? You mean to tell me if you were her you'd just let it go? Come on.

Um...I'm sorry, but I don't go around trying to murder people because they hurt me. Last time I checked, normal people didn't go around acting like Tony Soprano

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Absentee
Yeeaah. Let's not forget the awful things the Luthors did to her last season because apparently Lana isn't allowed to feel angry.

So what if the girl wants to seek some kind of revenge. Wouldn't you? You mean to tell me if you were her you'd just let it go? Come on.

And Lana is allowed to make mistakes and act on her feelings. She can't help it. She was hurt and she has every right to go after the people who caused her to feel that way even if it means breaking the law. Is it right? Absolutely not. But she's only human. She'll realize it soon enough that revenge is not the way to resolve things.

Yes but could the future superman, the man we know to be above things like revenge, who has such a supreme sense of justice, be with the person that Lana is now? Can he be with someone who lies and manipulates so well that she has become almost indistinguishable from his arch enemy, bearing the Luthor name so well you're almost sure she was born with it?

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:37 PM

Well, do u think Clark and Chloe will forgive the things she've done. By doing this Chloe will hate her coz she's lying to Clark, she wouldn't dare anyone to hurt Clark like this. And Clark, he's all about having good virtues, I dun think he'll forgive that!.

But it's already too late. She already did some bad things. Will Chloe and Clark handle the truth about Lana?

Absentee

10-24-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
Um...I'm sorry, but I don't go around trying to murder people because they hurt me. Last time I checked, normal people didn't go around acting like Tony Soprano

Actually how would you know what she went through? Unless you were drugged, had someone tell you were pregnant and actually showed you pictures of your "supposed" child, drugged you again so you miscarry, blackmailed you into marrying someone then you wouldn't really know, would you?

Exactly. You don't know unless it happened to you. And as severe as that was... NO ONE deserves to go through all that.

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 10:39 PM

Act on her hurt feeling? Give me a break. I thought taking the millions was bad enough but that would have been enough.

What will the future superman say when he finds out she paid to have Lionel captive and then hit him with a shovel across his head for trying to escape.

Murder is no excuse for revenge. Like someone said she isn't Tony soprano

Lana is crazy she needs help.

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 10:40 PM

I'm sorry, Absentee but I cannot approve muder under ANY circumstance. Only because it's Lana doing it, doesn't make it alright to start getting revenge by going above the law. It's just not right.

Absentee

10-24-2007, 10:41 PM

When did she murder anyone?

She didn't.

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 10:44 PM

She was planning to. Kidnapping, torturing and keeping someone against their will in a cabin for god knows how long without food, or anything can be considered an attempt to kill someone.

Alexander III

10-24-2007, 10:47 PM

She setted up a car explosion that killed her clone...and u tell me she didn't intentionally tried to make someone die?

chantal

10-24-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Absentee
Actually how would you know what she went through? Unless you were drugged, had someone tell you were pregnant and actually showed you pictures of your "supposed" child, drugged you again so you miscarry, blackmailed you into marrying someone then you wouldn't really know, would you?

Exactly. You don't know unless it happened to you. And as severe as that was... NO ONE deserves to go through all that.

If, instead of lying to her, Lionel had explained how he needed someone on the inside with Lex to protect Clark, would Lana have gone through with the wedding? She married Lex to save Clark from Lionel's supposed threat, so would she have done it if Lionel could have shown her that Lex really was a threat?

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 10:49 PM

I think they are trying to say Lionel could very well have died as a direct results of her actions. Actually she could be charged with attempted murder easily with what she has done. Lionel was denied medical care when he certainly needed it, i mean he JUST woke up this episode so he's what been in a coma for a month... and the shovel thing and tying him up... Lionel could EASILY argue he was in fear for his life. BAM attempted murder, and definitely torture. She just didn't get to go through with it because he escaped.

And it appeared that he was going to be blackmailed for something, why else was she holding him before killing him... there you go, three really big bad evil charges she would go to jail for for a LONG long time.

Ilovebeinglost

10-24-2007, 10:50 PM

How can the future superman excuse all this that she has done?

He can't and shouldn't because he'd never except it from anyone else. She has become Lex.

He made a big deal about Oliver taking from the rich and heavily insured to give to the needy how in the world can he except what she has done as justifiable?

paolinki25

10-24-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
He made a big deal about Oliver taking from the rich and heavily insured to give to the needy how in the world can he except what she has done as justifiable?

This is the kind of stuff I don't understand. Clark gives speeches to Oliver and others about not stealing, not hurting people, etc, but when Lana does it, it's totally fine?

chantal

10-24-2007, 11:03 PM

I said on the spoiler thread that it was a big plot hole having Clark not tell Lana that Lionel is the Emissary of Clark's biological father which should make him someone Lana would want to value, as she, hopefully, valued Jonathan and Martha.

CountryGirl84

10-24-2007, 11:06 PM

Does Clark really value Lionel being the emissary of his biological father though? I don't remember him being too thrilled about it. I'm not sure it would be at the top of his list of things to talk to Lana about. I get the feeling they haven't been talking very much and that Lana has been spending a lot of time at Aunt Nell's.

chantal

10-24-2007, 11:36 PM

Didn't Lionel/Jor El bring Clark back from the dead? He should value that. What I'm saying is that if Lana loves Clark as much as she keeps going on about, she should value anyone who is protecting Clark.

In Kara, Lana said "When Lionel threated to hurt you I couldn't take that chance." Referring to why she didn't have Clark help her escape. That would have been a natural time for Clark to say, "You don't have to worry about Lionel hurting me." But if he had, we wouldn't have had this plot. That's what I mean about a plothole.

Besides, Clark doesn't have to be thrilled about it, he just has to accept it as true. He's never been thrilled about Jor El, but he is going to have to accept Jor El, too.

operadiva

10-24-2007, 11:37 PM

Lana that crazy *****..where is Shelby?..I want her to bite Lana on the ass...She probably has Shelby tied to a post in the barn....That damn freak...Somehow if there is a clone..they might use the clone to justify why she kidnapped Lionel..and..thus have Clark forgive her...Which would be a bunch of BS.. if you ask me...

Serynarpc

10-25-2007, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Alexander III
He'll freak out and start hating her, and perhaps will start cheating on Lana with Chloe. Now wouldn't that make the CH-LARK FANS HAPPY??

Hell yes. :D I'll take a rebound relationship at this point over 'Good Lana- Evil Lana- Apple pie baking with lemons Lana- and wtf Lana of this week' anytime.

SparkleforSmallville

10-25-2007, 08:57 AM

Clark will be with Lana for a while IMO. It's all very exciting, I can't wait to see how it all plays out. TPTB have certainly got everyone talking;)

Ilovebeinglost

10-25-2007, 09:03 AM

Yes he can visit her at belle Reeve

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I get the feeling they haven't been talking very much and that Lana has been spending a lot of time at Aunt Nell's.

Spending time with aunt Nell=buying land with Luthor money and hiring Marilyn to torture Lionel

suzieQ

10-25-2007, 09:24 AM

Where does it say or indicate that someone tortured Lionel. He just woke up? How was he tortured? Explain?

It amazes me the amount of sympathizers that Lex and Lionel have? It is truely convenient to forget what they have done, yet we don't even fully realize what Lana is doing and everyone is crucifying her! Lana is using luthor tactics but we still do not know her intentions. It is speculative that it is all retribution, as Lionel said, however, I think it may be much more than that.

We still do not know why she had Lionel. Then she just lets him go? BIG plothole there!

operadiva

10-25-2007, 04:32 PM

BIG plothole there!

I'd say..Clana sees to be the huge plot hole that contaminates every scene..And I'm sorry but what the heck are people talking about Chemistry..Where?
What scene is the chemistry?
Where she was free falling down a building..Ah..No..And there was no Kiss....No chemistry...Can i say boring...Good grief...since when does someone falling down a 5oth story building constitute chemistry..the only thing great about that scene was the fact that Clark was doing something other than drinking Lemonade or stealing syrup for pancakes..

The most exciting scene.. well.. one of the great scenes was Lionel's confrontation of Lana in the barn about his kidnapping...Now that was interesting...Humm.. i can't wait for more of those scenes...

skully

10-25-2007, 04:41 PM

BadToad

10-25-2007, 04:45 PM

Damn, you fans are hard to please. I obviously haven't seen the episode yet but here's Lana with a bit of juicy evil and sneakiness about her and you hate it (on the grounds that Clark wouldn't approve - oh dear). Yet it wasn't long ago that many of you were b*tching about what a vapid "pink" princess she was.

Actually, I don't hate it. Lana can get as dark and twisted as she wants. I think it makes her more interesting. I just don't want it to be OK with Clark, and I do believe her engaging in this sort of thing should be an end to the romance between them.

What I fear, and I'm willing to bet that I'm not alone here, is that Lana's whole dark arc will end up damaging Clark's character when all of Lana's misdeeds are simply swept under the rug, or blamed on other characters, thereby making Clark look like a ridiculous fool when it comes to Lana. He can forgive her, help her, be her friend, but I do think he should have SOME boundaries and things he can't accept.

But as far as Lana vs Lionel vs Lex in a free-for-all, going at each other, being as twisted as they can be? I've got no complaints with that. But none of the above should be Clark's live-in companion and love interest. At least not when he knows the truth.

operadiva

10-25-2007, 04:46 PM

As i said and i repeat....The most exciting scene.. well.. one of the great scenes was Lionel's confrontation of Lana in the barn about his kidnapping...Now that was interesting...Humm.. i can't wait for more of those scenes...

Kid Collins

10-25-2007, 05:51 PM

Goughlar has a habit of writing Lionel protecting Clark in a story arc and then magically reverting back to the MB when its convenient for a particular storyline.

We dont knpw if Lionel is playing good or bad this season. But I will bet that we will find out that Lana has been protecting Clark all along.

Lana will probably be the only one not buying Lexs being redeemed or Lionel protecting Clark.

Timester

10-25-2007, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Goughlar has a habit of writing Lionel protecting Clark in a story arc and then magically reverting back to the MB when its convenient for a particular storyline.

We dont knpw if Lionel is playing good or bad this season. But I will bet that we will find out that Lana has been protecting Clark all along.

...

Lionel has been on the cabin since the dam explotion. How in Hell can Lana being protecting Clark from a evil Lionel? :confused:

Kid Collins

10-25-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Timester
...

Lionel has been on the cabin since the dam explotion. How in Hell can Lana being protecting Clark from a evil Lionel? :confused:

Lionel could've been involved in evil deeds while Lana was planning her death.

Timelines in SV are ignored if it doesn't serve the storyline that Goughglar wants to tell.

Just like Lana was able to fake her death, get settled in China all in a matter of days.

Timester

10-25-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Lionel could've been involved in evil deeds while Lana was planning her death.

Timelines in SV are ignored if it doesn't serve the storyline that Goughglar wants to tell.

Just like Lana was able to fake her death, get settled in China all in a matter of days.

Lionel was working together with J'onn at the time, to stop Project Ares.

But even so, Lana's way of "protection" is typical of a Luthor. A villain way.

Kid Collins

10-25-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Timester
Lionel was working together with J'onn at the time, to stop Project Ares.

But even so, Lana's way of "protection" is typical of a Luthor. A villain way.

Let's see how Clark reacts to Lana's secret. I bet he'll be an understanding boyfriend when he finds out.

Timester

10-25-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Let's see how Clark reacts to Lana's secret. I bet he'll be an understanding boyfriend when he finds out.

Which is dumb, considering how he acted to 3 of his best friends (I'm including early days Lex also).

The best part of the episode was Lionel confroting Lana. He knows evil better than anyone and he is right when says that Lana is doing this not for Clark's protection but hers retribution (this would lead to a spoilers talking).

CDLBLUE

10-25-2007, 07:27 PM

Lana is as morally dirty ,as she is physically from the touch of the Luthor's, they corrupt and taint everyone and everything that has ever had anything to do with them , and Lana is no exception. And that coupled with the agenda that she has for revenge and retribution, that will be the end of Clark's love for her, when she achieves it, the taste will be bitter in he mouth, and with the loss of the love of Clark, she will be left with nothing. If all of this was happening to anybody except Lana, I would call it a tragedy, but because it's her, and because of the people that she will be doing it to, it's almost comic.

operadiva

10-26-2007, 03:26 PM

If Clark forgives Lana for her actions..all i have to say that...Clark needs to put in Bellereve for therapy...along with Lana..They will be together forever in separate wings...And let Chloe and Oliver save the world form Lex..Cause Clark is useless....I can't see how Clark can just blindly accept Lana's actions..without some huge consequence....2 wrongs don't make it right...

Dyanara

10-27-2007, 12:06 AM

This is the same idiot who took her back after she slept with, got knocked up and married his enemy. So yes the marriage was forced but she did do the first two willingly. Clark is stupid enough to still love this idiot even if she killed tortured or maimed someone.

bad3appels

10-27-2007, 06:40 AM

The clone was never alive...
if she kidnaped lionel then she must have her own reasons..
No matter what, Clark will always have a special place for her in his heart..
K-site has a reputation on hating clana....but hey,Al/Milles knows better,hehehehe

for all the horrible things lex has done to her,i can understand why she did that to lionel.
If i was lana,i would make his life miserable too..killing his whole family and gooo insane,hehehe..just kidding.

clarkbunny

10-27-2007, 08:12 AM

Well from the descriptions of later episodes Clark & Lex DO get to find out what Lana's been up to and are both appaulled. However a few episodes down the line Clark is described as well happy with his relationship with Lana so I guess Lana can do no wrong that Clark won't forgive.

There was me hoping he would dump her ass and date Chloe!

The Clana this season has been plain weird/disturbing. They don't talk about what's happened in their lives, Clark hasn't fully explained his back story, Lana hasn't explained the fake baby and faked death and clone story. They act very cold towards each other not like a couple in love and Lana always wearing white and acting like butter wouldn't melt around Clark is creeping me out. There is no passion in their relationship.

If AlMiles thought they could show a Clana relationship by having them living together without showing any kissing or passion they couldn't be more wrong. Look at Chlimmy, we didn't see any sex there but their chemistry was obvious and very sweet. I wrote a post before the new season started about whether Clana is HOT or not and by looks of things it definitely IS NOT HOT, it's virtually non-existent - they might as well be brother and sister :\

If this is what they are going to give us a worthy try between Clark & Lana they needn't have bothered putting them back together. I can't see what Clana fans are enjoying in their current relationship. I can only hope that this Lana is a clone hence why the writers didn't want any passion until the real Lana turns up.

SacredK

10-27-2007, 08:32 AM

My first choice of the woman to be with Clark wouldn't be Lana, but I don't detest the thought. I'm disappointed by what I'm seeing from Lana. I do agree that her lies has spoiled the cute moments. When I saw the catch scene, all I could think of was her hitting Lionel with the shovel. I never thought Lana could hurt anyone like this in spite of what they might have done to her. I'm a bit shocked. :eek: