Ratings for Action

[xrayvision]

Post about the ratings for Action here once they're available.

[superhippie2000]

wow someone was busy this morning.
i hope they are good as last week.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I bet there'll be a drop from last week. Hopefully it'll stay above 4.8 million though.

I hope Christina Millian can bring in some new viewers.

SV was once again the most watched show in primetime on CW for the week of 10/15-10/21

1. Smallville 5.18 million viewers
2. America's Next Top Model 4.94
3. Friday Night SmackDown! 4.73
4. Beauty and the Geek 3.6
5. Reaper 3.27
6. Supernatural 3.03
7. The Game 2.68
8. Everybody Hates Chris 2.61
9. Girlfriends 2.43
10. Gossip Girl 2.41
11. Aliens in America 2.25
12. ANTM (R) 1.58
13. Life Is Wild 1.57
14. AIA (R) 1.29
15. CW Now 0.88

[Honey45]

Why do they even air "CW Now"..

[superhippie2000]

lol. cause its a sunday and nothing good is on sundays so they figure what the hell.

supernatural is doing good. close to repear with reaper being a new show but that seems like the only new show that is doing any good.

looks like a lot of people are more into reality and sci fi then they are drama. i would hate to see what happens to the CW when Smallville is gone cause no matter what it wont go past season 8 unless they get suckered into a superman show. but dang when smallvilles over CW is going to loose lots of ratings unless they can bring in another show. Supernatural will probably wind up being the top show if its still on the air but probably wont get anywhere near smallvilles ratings.

[Honey45]

I figure a lot of Smallville viewers will start watching Supernatural once SV ends.
It has Jensen Ackles, and it's kind of similar in the sci fi-way.


I can't believe SV is beating ANTM though. I always thought ANTM was like.. 8 million viewers or something ridiculous.

[ClarkyBoy14]

The CW really needs to find a scripted show that can replace SV (in terms of ratings) once SV ends in a year or two. Unfortunately, I don't Reaper or SPN will be able to do that. The CW really should try a SV spin-off (SG? GA? JLA? any would work).

Once SV and Tyra are gone the network will crumble if they don't come up w/ good replacements.


Originally posted by HeddyH
I can't believe SV is beating ANTM though. I always thought ANTM was like.. 8 million viewers or something ridiculous. Nope. ANTM's most watched episode (on the CW at least) had about 6.5 million viewers. Also, ANTM has fallen from last season.


Originally posted by HeddyH
Why do they even air "CW Now".. It's basically a half-hour commercial.

At least they were smart enough to cancel Online Nation and replace it w/ AiA repeats.

[MidgardDragon]

I'm betting on just under 5 million. Last season the fourth episode saw a significant drop and the third episode was considered a bad one. This year the third episode was considered bad (by less people it seems, though) but they had Dean Cain so we saw a significant increase. Cure seems to be doing okay review-wise so I don't think we'll lose all those viewers, although I doubt we'll gain many based on Christina Milian. The funny element of the episode might have turned some people off, but there are also plenty who have been begging to see the lighter funnier side of Smallville again since Season 4, so it might bring in some new old viewers. Ultimately, I'll call it at around 4.95 as a high, 4.7 as the lowest I expect to see it go.

[Best Episode - 321]

Live +7 Rating are out for the week of Oct. 1-7

Smallville had the 7th highest percentage increase of DVR viewers.

The total DVR viewership, including same day viewers that were already counted in the final ratings, totaled 867,000.

Adding the DVR numbers, brought the total viewer total to 5.04 million.



SMALLVILLE - Episode 2 - Kara

Persons Live................4.17 million
Persons Live+7............5.04 million
Timeshifed Audience.....867,000
% increase over Live....20.8%

Link - http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/10/22/top-timeshifted-broadcast-tv-shows-oct-1-8/

[ClarkyBoy14]

That's good.

Do you have the total for "Bizarro"?

--

Pretty funny that Reaper's difference in live viewers and 7 day DVR viewers is 666K. :p

[Best Episode - 321]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
That's good.

Do you have the total for "Bizarro"?



From Kryptonsite News Page:


DVR Ratings: Smallville Picks Up More Viewers
New "Live+7" Neilsen ratings are now being released revealing how many viewers are digitally recording their shows and saving to watch them later. Smallville benefited greatly from DVR use, with over 800,000 extra viewers tuning in to see the show's season premiere.

The viewer bump also helped lift Smallville up to #70 for the week, from #76 where it sat without DVR taken into account. Considering the very competitive timeslot, this is good news for the show, and if the DVR trend continues, it would put every episode of Season Seven at over five million viewers.

[haywchr35]

They had a show to replace SV, but cancelled it before the pilot was aired on TV!!

"Mercy Reef" ring a bell...it's been crap show, after crap show on CW ever since.

Can board member, honestly say that those bottom tier show's on the list would have done better then "Mercy Reef" at this point. It's just a matter of being stuborn on CW board...and give a show that showed a little promise some airtime. Life is Wild, Aliens in America, TMZ, and CW Now have to be the most boring TV show's this season.

[mctor]

^:rolleyes: Mercy Reef was not meant to replace!Smallville:rolleyes:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by mctor
^:rolleyes: Mercy Reef was not meant to replace!Smallville:rolleyes: I think he meant replace SV as the scripted ratings champion on the CW once SV ended.

[uhhuhhim]

They better come up with a show quick because they are going down. I don't even leave this channel on very long after Smallville is over. I just love how they're trying to spin all of their shows as being roses. I saw a promo where they called Life is Wild an "acclaimed family drama." My ass! I don't think they will have an anchor show for thursday when SV ends, so my guess is that we don't even have to worry about it getting renewed because this network is scrambling...Once the producers are tired of doing it, they'll make the call and let the network know and not the other way around. At least, this is what I suspect because of how poorly the other shows are doing.

[Best Episode - 321]

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action.............


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.94 million

[JEWCY]

I dont think the CW is in trouble at all. It is all about profits and budget. The CW's biggest persona/actor is Tyra Banks and that is only because she really became an upper level celebrity is from that show. Yea everyone knew her, but from ANTM, she got a talk show and other stuff. *stay with me on this*

The CW pays for cheap shows and yea they might average 3 million viewers on an average show, but that doesnt mean they are doing horrible. Their profit margine could be better than someone like NBC who struggles to even get 9 million viewers and they pay much more for higher caliber celebrities (Alec Baldwin, Steve Carrell, John Stamos, and all the network actors they hire not to mention football broadcasts).

so while NBC gets higher ratings, they have to pay a lot more for actors/broadcats then the CW has to. thus saving money.

with Tyra Banks, if they do have more successful reality shows, then they can build off of this success. Tyra has UPN/CW to thank for her status. Maybe it can do this for another rising star. Jared Padelecki on Supernatural got his own show on MTV and the CW probably doesnt pay him nearly what the other bigger networks pay their comparable stars in that timeslot

Just look at Gossip Girl which does not get good ratings at all. But look at what USA Today wrote in Wednesdsay's section. GG is the most downloaded show on ITunes, improves 20% on DVR viewings, top new show among teens, and the first new show to get picked up for a full 22 episodes.

To me it is more about the ratings. yes they are a big deal, but you have to look at production cost vs budget and this is what really counts.

Im sure the CW knew they woudlnt beat the big 4 (and probalby didnt think they would do this bad in ratings), but I have not heard any talk of them cancelling. Fox had the same problem, never being able to beat CBS, NBC, or ABC when it first started, but now it consistently domintates at times the competiton, so give The CW some time. They have showed some promise with new shows this season being better than last season (Runaway anybody?)

There is more than just the ratings.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by JEWCY
There is more than just the ratings.

You're right, but...What exactly does the CW have? Aliens in America is the most offensive show on television, I can't even believe it's even on the air. A stereotypical show about an Arab coming to America that uses the typical Arab jokes? It's so offensive I'd rather not watch.

Life is Wild...Yeah, life is not that wild. A family that moves to South Africa to come together? They'd have better luck getting bloated on the food at McDonald's and then "coming together." It's unbelievable.

Beauty and the Geek works because it's likable in every way; who doesn't want to watch the geek get the girl? ANTM is successful because of Tyra, yes, but also because of the backstabbing drama that goes on; everybody loves to watch cat fights and the models that break down in tears.

Reaper...a supernatural show that tries to be funny? Only the X-Files and even Supernatural can get away with that. A family that sells their son's soul to the devil so he can be a grim reaper? I want to know which crack head green-lighted that disaster. I've seen it; it's horrible.

The other shows they have are from the UPN are Girlfriends and the Game, which is fine, but I don't watch those shows either. The only other show they have is Smackdown...whatever.

I'm no ratings expert, but I do know; as a television viewer, what is good and what is not. The CW had PLENTY of opportunities to have hit shows, such as Mercy Reef.

In my opinion, this is what they did wrong:

1. They canceled Everwood, which had stronger ratings during its 4th season. I really enjoyed this show because it was something that I could relate to, mostly during the first couple of seasons. I watched it regularly.

2. They renewed 7th Heaven in place of Everwood only to see ratings slip because no one knew it was picked up and the station was not broadcast in some areas when the network first launced. Plus, they milked the series finale so much that by the time the 13-order season concluded, the anticipation wasn't there.

3. They didn't pick up Mercy Reef. It was a very promising show with a fairly good base story. The only thing wrong with that show was casting Lou Diamond Phillips, who didn't even look like he could pass as Justin Hartley's "father."

4. They canceled Gilmore Girls, one of the highest rated shows they ever had on tuesday night let alone in their entire lineup, leaving their newer shows without a lead-in.

5. They got rid of Reba. their strongest show during friday night, once again leaving any new show without a decent lead-in.

6. They put money into newer shows instead of keeping their anchor shows. By doing this, they wasted more money. Proof of this is the fact that: Runaway was canceled, Hidden Palms was canceled, The Bedford Diaries was canceled; along with Modern Men.

Of course they can't match the ratings of the big networks, they know that and have always known that, but it's not only about saving money or good ratings, it's about how viewers can relate to a show's lead character, which is why Smallville is so popular.

At some point in our lives, we all keep secrets and certain parts of ourselves secret and we can empathize with Clark and the other characters.

It's about quality. When you try to save money, it shows and it is showing.

[Best Episode - 321]

Overnights are in -

From Mediaweek:

The CW’s Smallville (#5: 3.4/ 5) and Supernatural (#5: 2.5/ 4) were at typical Thursday overnight levels.

The more detailed fast nationals will be out at 12 ET.

[MidgardDragon]

When do we get that in a *.** million format? :P

[myankskent]

3.4/5 is the same rating that Cure had. I wouldn't expect too much of a decrease this week. Smallville also went up against the World Series game 2 last night as well and game 1 actually did pretty well considering the teams and the fact that it was a blowout game. I don't know what game 2 did.

[FiReFTW]

Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
Overnights are in -

From Mediaweek:

The CW’s Smallville (#5: 3.4/ 5) and Supernatural (#5: 2.5/ 4) were at typical Thursday overnight levels.

The more detailed fast nationals will be out at 12 ET.


(3.4/5)

WTF does this mean anyway??

[Best Episode - 321]

The CW’s Smallville (Viewers: #5, 4.50 million; A18-49: #5, 1.8/ 4) and Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 3.27 million; A18-49: 1.3/ 3) were at typical Thursday levels.


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Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action.............4.50 million


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.85 million

[uhhuhhim]

(3.4/5)

WTF does this mean anyway??

If I'm not mistaken, that's the ratings points the show received while being broadcast. 1% = 1, 128,000 households, so if you times that number by 3.4, that's how many households the show had. The other number represents how much the show got in percentage out of ALL of the households in America, meaning that 5% of all households were tuned in...At least, that's how I understand it.

[Rafael122]

Steep drop, then again the World Series was on.

[uhhuhhim]

^^^ It's still pretty close to Kara's numbers, but they better start capitalizing (in their promos) on the stars they're getting. For example, I think it would really help if they had a promo (with a voice-over) that said: "The original Supergirl, Helen Slater, comes to Smallville" or something like that...so people actually KNOW who she is and why she's on...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Steep drop, then again the World Series was on.

Yeah, FOX put a dent in everyone's ratings I think. They were the winner in every half hour last night. If this series goes seven games, game 7 will be next Thursday and that could kill Smallville again.

[Minela]

Aww. I'm dissapointed. I thought this show would have drawn more viewers. It was the most mythos packed so far.

[STFanatic]

Baseball? Is that fad still going on?

:p

[hansioux]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Baseball? Is that fad still going on?

:p

if Ben Sisko led the Niners against Logicians, then the fad will go on for another couple of centuries :P

[Dannyblue1]

Here are the CW's ratings for the week so far. (Not including tonight and Sunday.) The numbers for SV and SPN aren't final, so they could go up or down slightly.

Everybody Hates Chris - 2.521 million viewers

Aliens in America.....2.359 million viewers

Girlfriends.....2.210 million viewers

The Game.....2.608 million viewers

Beauty and the Geek.....3.245 million viewers

Reaper.....2.608 million viewers

America's Next Top Model.....4.737 million viewers

Gossip Girl.....2.542 million viewers

Smallville.....4.50 million*

Supernatural.....3.27 million*


Remember, on the CW, anything over 3 million is considered okay. Anything over 4 million is pretty good. And over 5 million is excellent.

No show on the CW has as much competition as SPN has right now. So I'd love to see what it could do if were in a less competative timeslot.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Next week, not only will it possibly be up against baseball, but also an hour episode of My Name Is Earl.

The CW had better do a good job of promoting the fact that Helen Slater is guest starring and that two mythos characters will be on the show.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1



Remember, on the CW, anything over 3 million is considered okay. Anything over 4 million is pretty good. And over 5 million is excellent.[/i]

Hahaha - Do they say that in their press releases? :)


No show on the CW has as much competition as SPN has right now. So I'd love to see what it could do if were in a less competative timeslot.

What they should do is cancel their lowest rated show and let Supernatural have one of those spots and maybe that show's ratings would go up...because it is a decent show. I don't watch it weekly, but it's not that bad to watch.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by uhhuhhim

Hahaha - Do they say that in their press releases? :)


:lol:

Although, actually, they come pretty close sometimes.

Also, there was a recent interview where advertisers said they were actually okay with the CW's numbers. Not thrilled but, taking into account that the network is very small, and very new, it's not doing as badly as raw numbers seem to indicate.

As for those wondering why CW Now is still on the air, it's because somehow, some way, the CW managed to convince sponsers to pay for an entire year's worth of advertising for it upfront. How they managed to convince advertisers like Wal-Mart and Snickers that the show was worth a year-long commitment, we'll never know. But, even if it keeps pulling less than a million viewers each week, I don't think it's going anywhere.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
Next week, not only will it possibly be up against baseball, but also an hour episode of My Name Is Earl.

The CW had better do a good job of promoting the fact that Helen Slater is guest starring and that two mythos characters will be on the show.

As far as I'm concerned, if the World Series goes 7 games, which I don't think it will, they can promote the episode as Clark becoming Superman and it still won't matter. The World Series will steal ratings from Smallville once again.

[FiReFTW]

I was expecting at least very close to 5mil .. hopefully the final ratings will be better ... damn bad promoting.

[joesmallville]

final rating is in:

SMALLVILLE 4.648 million

[Best Episode - 321]

SMALLVILLE - 4.65 million, 2.9/5 HH, 1.9/5 A18-49, 2.2/6 A18-34

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/61310518?r=77110718#77110718
_________________________

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.88 million

[ClarkyBoy14]

"Action" Live+SD Final Numbers:

Smallville
- 2.9/5 HH
- 1.9/5 A18-49
- 4,648 Viewers (000s)
- 2.2/6 A18-34
- 1.9/5 A25-54

Supernatural
- 1.9/3
- 1.3/3
- 3,178
- 1.3/3
- 1.3/3

Edit: Oops. Didn't see those.

[joesmallville]

Originally posted by FiReFTW
I was expecting at least very close to 5mil .. hopefully the final ratings will be better ... damn bad promoting.

The two lowest rated shows this year, have gone up against baseball games

"Kara" - Yankees/Indians

"Action"- World Series

that has been the difference in viewers

"Cure" went up against baseball too, but that game was over early.

[ClarkyBoy14]

From K-Site News:
The show won the 8PM hour and ranked #2 for the evening overall, behind only the World Series, in the Teens and Male Teens demographics. In fact, it was Smallville's best performance in the Male Teens demographic since February 2006 (which we would assume was for the "Cyborg" episode). What ticks me off is that Craig can post about this, but I haven't seen one pr bragging about SV's performance this season (except the DVR one). Yet the CW has managed to release one

every single week for ANTM and GG.

[jazel]

ten minutes into the epi, I tuned into the Series.......GO Colorado (love the underdog)
can't anybody object to the misleading direction, a named epi can take ? this one, should have been called, REGRESSION.LOL:p

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
What ticks me off is that Craig can post about this, but I haven't seen one pr bragging about SV's performance this season (except the DVR one). Yet the CW has managed to release one every single week for ANTM and GG.

I don't think the CW has exactly hidden the fact that they are all about the new shows. I think they are also all about the shows that came over from UPN. And, forgive me, but I think the fact that the head of the CW was once the head of UPN means there's a good chance there's going to be a bias towards UPN shows.

[CallMeClark]

Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
SMALLVILLE - 4.65 million, 2.9/5 HH, 1.9/5 A18-49, 2.2/6 A18-34

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/61310518?r=77110718#77110718
_________________________

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action..............4.65 million*


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.88 million
A little disappointed since the episode was pretty great...

[SparkleforSmallville]

4.65 million, that's not too bad. S6 epi 5 "Reunion" got 4.79. If the CW would have better promos I think Smallville could pick up some new viewers.:p

[Mello Penelo]

New "Live+7" Neilsen ratings are now being released revealing how many viewers are digitally recording their shows and saving to watch them later. Smallville benefited greatly from DVR use, with over 800,000 extra viewers tuning in to see the show's season premiere.

Yeah, so everyone can fast-forward through the noxious Clana scenes.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Yeah, so everyone can fast-forward through the noxious Clana scenes. Can I fast-forward through the troll's comments?

[Mello Penelo]

There's always the ignore feature.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
I don't think the CW has exactly hidden the fact that they are all about the new shows. I think they are also all about the shows that came over from UPN. And, forgive me, but I think the fact that the head of the CW was once the head of UPN means there's a good chance there's going to be a bias towards UPN shows. I know. I don't like that. But what can ya do? :\

[uhhuhhim]

I feel the same way about it, CB14. It's like they're treating like their stepchild show when it's actually one of the highest rated this season compared to their other shows. They should celebrate that and give SV the respect it deserves. Who gives a rat's ass about Tyra Banks anyway...LOL

[LoveHurts38]

I do admit Aliens in America is funny and Life is Wild is okay when I have time to watch them=0)

[LoisL]

Aw, I did think that this epi deserved a better rating. I really liked Kara also! It's the epis I found not so hot that get all the attention. lol

As for "Aliens in America": I found it gratuitious the couple of times I tuned in: too much teen male puberty going on, kinda like Heat. But it's not offensive to me on a political level at all. Raja is Pakistani, not Arab, which makes a world of difference. He is Muslim however. I'm Paki too, lineage-wise, and the demeanor etc is ok. What's weird is his name being "Raja", which is Hindu and more fitting for Pak's neighbor India.

[FiReFTW]

This is COMPLETLY ridicilous , Fierce gets better ratings than Kara and Action , this is bullcrap.

[curiosity]

Originally posted by FiReFTW
This is COMPLETLY ridicilous , Fierce gets better ratings than Kara and Action , this is bullcrap.

They should have promoted Clark jumping off the building. The ratings would have been higher, IMO. Everyone who watched was going, "Wow" when that happened. It was a complete surprise.

The episode description seemed like a Lana episode....sort of like last season, and it wasn't, it was really good. They shouldn't make it sound bad in the official description. IMO.

[redraven]

I blame the CW's terrible advertising for the drop in ratings. :mad: Maybe if they had chosen better scenes for the trailer instead making the episode seem like it was going to be totally centered around Christina Millian, we'd have gotten better ratings.

Hopefully next week there will be a rise.

[CallMeClark]

They didn't even show Lara in the episode named "Lara!" Poor promotional skills.

[uhhuhhim]

^^^ Yeah, really. How dumb are the people at the CW? Honestly, that would be the first thing I would think about doing if I were doing the promo...

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by redraven
Hopefully next week there will be a rise. I hope so, but I kind of doubt it. Yes, Kara is a draw, but ppl already know she's on the show. I don't get why the CW didn't even have one clip of the guest star and guest characters.

[redraven]

^^That's why I almost thought they had aired the wrong trailer or something. :lol: It worked out well premoting Dean Cain as a guest star, why wouldn't they do the same for this week? :confused:

[ClarkyBoy14]

I don't know.

Maybe they think most ppl who watch CW either don't know or don't care about HS?

But still, mythos eps. usually do pretty well when they're promoted as such...

[jack1487]

Originally posted by redraven
I blame the CW's terrible advertising for the drop in ratings. :mad: Maybe if they had chosen better scenes for the trailer instead making the episode seem like it was going to be totally centered around Christina Millian, we'd have gotten better ratings.

Hopefully next week there will be a rise.

I have to agree with all of you about this, lack of promoting the SV shows the only ad's we see here are on the CW and I mean that ALL!

They do promotion's for Dr Phil, Reaper and GG, with ad's on buses and billboards. For Smallville there is no way they have even done that, it's like they don't care.

All you need to do is pick up a copy of Entertainment Weekly and TV Guide and look at all the ad's for all of the rest of the networks, in most case's it's a two page spread. And they also place ad's on other TV stations. Where is the CW, my guess is that they are sitting behind the barn smoking and tweeling there thumbs.

If that advertising group worked for me they would all be out looking some where else for work. Really a monkey could do better then they have.

Thanks for letting me vent, this is a sore area for me....

Take Care,

Jack

[clana4everfan2]

I agree Jack that the CW is doing a horrible job on advertising this season. Perhaps it's because this could be it for AM, KK, MR, and next season since TW is contracted for an 8th they are unsure of the direction of the show, viewership if those cast members leave. And I also think the cast is getting weary of SV and ready to move forward in their acting careers beyond SV.

[Dannyblue1]

I think the CW has fallen down on promoting their older shows (like Smallville and Supernatural) because they wanted to push their new shows. A little before the season started, a fan contacted a local affiliate asking when they were going to start showing trailers for SV. And the affiliate came right out and told them that they shouldn't expect to see a whole lot of promotion for SV because the network was really focussing on promoting Reaper and Gossip Girl.

Well, as you might imagine, I thought that sucked. But what are you gonna do?

And, for Reaper and Gossip Girl fans out there, I have nothing against those shows. I just find it annoying that the network decided to give all of the promotional attention to them, and pretty much ignored their other shows, forget that those shows have fans who care about them and have been watching them for years.

And it amuses me that, despite being treated like a red-headed stepchild, SV has managed to do well in the ratings anyway.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
despite being treated like a red-headed stepchild, SV has managed to do well in the ratings anyway.

Danny, that's exactly what I referred to the show as before because that's what they're doing. The thing that amazes me about Smallville is the fact that the ratings, despite being in its seventh year, have been higher; and in some cases, as high as last season, which is something they need to acknowledge because most "aging" shows show a steady decline in the final years instead the consistency we've still been seeing. That's not to say that it hasn't had its bumps in the road, but as Craig pointed out, the key demographic scores have been great.

[jack1487]

I think that we need to all write to the CW and raise H**L with them about this and the no comment about the shows, they have the worst Marketing department that I have seen with it's no SV SPN acknowledgement of how well these two show are doing!!!!

Sorry venting again!!!


Take Care,

Jack

[bizzaroboy9]

here is the live+ 7 numbers
5.08 million

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats pretty good.