Matt entering minds

[Merfish]

What's his full potential and why does he have the same power as his dad?

[Patient101]

didnt we just find out that someone else had the same power as a parent?? I cant remember who but im sure i remember somthing about it.... maybe not though...

[Alexander III]

Nope, no one else! But I find it weird though with "Heroes"...Claire got a flying saucer dad and a useless mom with "heat" power. Similarly to Micah and his parents. Why do their kids have different power than their own parents? Whereas Matt's the exceptional case here.

[krpto]

What I find funny is claire is dating someone with the same power as her bio dad.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Merfish
What's his full potential and why does he have the same power as his dad?

Because he inherited that gene from his father. And it became active during mRNA crossing over during fertilization.

[krpto]

And I think matts dad was lying I think he and matt have different powers that matt will never me nigtmare man jr.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Alexander III
Nope, no one else! But I find it weird though with "Heroes"...Claire got a flying saucer dad and a useless mom with "heat" power. Similarly to Micah and his parents. Why do their kids have different power than their own parents? Whereas Matt's the exceptional case here.

Because there are many receptors on the human genome, probably each carrying many different markers. Like how it's rare to have two different color eyes or you can't have two different hair colors, even though it's in your DNA to code for more than one. One gene becomes dominant in the codon sequence.

Matt's powers are from the activation of the same gene his father has during fertilization.


Originally posted by krpto
And I think matts dad was lying I think he and matt have different powers that matt will never me nigtmare man jr.

He has the same powers, but Matt would never use them the same way his father does.

[krpto]

what makes you rthink matt can control peoples dreams/nightmares I think matt's only power is to read people thought not control them or cause them to have nightmares.

[Mello Penelo]

Because Mr. Parkman said his powers started out the same way. Just reading minds, but it grew into more.

But what I'm saying is because of morals, Matt would never do what his father does.

[krpto]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Because Mr. Parkman said his powers started out the same way. Just reading minds, but it grew into more.

But what I'm saying is because of morals, Matt would never do what his father does.

See I thought Nightmare man was just lying he can see inside and see peoples fears and matt's is obviously that he will go evil/leave someone who needs him(in the nightmare he freared that his wife lied and the baby is really his son).

[Mello Penelo]

I don't think Matt will end up evil. Because of who he is and his standards, he would only use his powers for good. His heart is pure. He loves Molly and was willing to forgive his wife for cheating on him. He's a cop. He lives his life to help people.

[krpto]

My point is his father only could see his fear not all his thoughts matt has a different power then his father yah they both involve the mind but they are still different from eachother. And peter is good too yet he fears he will either go evil or find out he was evil.

[Mello Penelo]

But Mr. Parkman said his powers started the same way as Matt's.

[XSE_Greystone]

I DON'T KNOW WHO TO AGREE WITH!?! I agree with both krypto and Mello Penelo...i personally thought it seemed to me like they had same powers and just that Matt hasn't evolved (for lack of better word) enough to get that far yet but he wouldn't use it like he's dad if they were same. But his dad could have seen his fears and was just playing on those.

But i love that Matt at least used his mind to talk to someone this time instead of always just hearing them.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by XSE_Greystone
But i love that Matt at least used his mind to talk to someone this time instead of always just hearing them.

And that was the first instance of growth with his powers.

[XSE_Greystone]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
And that was the first instance of growth with his powers.

Yeah AND IT WAS SO COOL!

[faz]

One of the reasons Matt MAY have the same ability as his father is that the only altered gene he received was from his father (we don't know whether or not his mother had an ability, I'm assuming she didn't). My guess as to the reason other characters don't receive the same ability as their parents is that the different genes mixing together produce different results. We saw something along those lines last season with Linderman, Niki, and D.L. Linderman, as one of the original 12, probably knew a good deal about how different genetic combinations would create a varying array of abilities, which is why he crafted Niki and D.L.'s relationship in order to use their offspring for his own ends. At least that's what I gathered from the end of last season. I may be totally off on that, but at the moment that's what seems to make the most sense.

As for the idea that Parkman's dad was actually lying to him, that's what I thought at first too, until Parkman seemed to break himself and Nathan out of that illusion they were stuck in or whatever it was. If Parkman didn't have the same ability, I don't see how he would be able to escape like that.


Originally posted by krpto
What I find funny is claire is dating someone with the same power as her bio dad.

Can anyone say "Daddy issues"?


Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I don't think Matt will end up evil. Because of who he is and his standards, he would only use his powers for good. His heart is pure. He loves Molly and was willing to forgive his wife for cheating on him. He's a cop. He lives his life to help people.

For the most part, yes. One of the interesting dynamics on this show though is how even the most pure characters have negative qualities to them, and the more evil/less pure ones seem to have some redeeming qualities. We saw it with Parkman stealing the diamonds last season, as well as with Peter's moment of rage when he attacked Isaac. There are a million other examples, but that kind of character development, where everything isn't black and white, is part of what makes the show enjoyable.


Originally posted by XSE_Greystone
But i love that Matt at least used his mind to talk to someone this time instead of always just hearing them.

Amen to that. It's about freakin' time.

[XSE_Greystone]

Originally posted by faz
One of the reasons Matt MAY have the same ability as his father is that the only altered gene he received was from his father (we don't know whether or not his mother had an ability, I'm assuming she didn't). My guess as to the reason other characters don't receive the same ability as their parents is that the different genes mixing together produce different results. We saw something along those lines last season with Linderman, Niki, and D.L. Linderman, as one of the original 12, probably knew a good deal about how different genetic combinations would create a varying array of abilities, which is why he crafted Niki and D.L.'s relationship in order to use their offspring for his own ends. At least that's what I gathered from the end of last season. I may be totally off on that, but at the moment that's what seems to make the most sense.



That's like one of the sweetest theory's i think i've ever heard...you rock faz :cool:

But does that mean Matt's kid will also be a telepath since his wife doesn't have a power?

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by XSE_Greystone
But does that mean Matt's kid will also be a telepath since his wife doesn't have a power?

There's probably a 25 percent chance the kid will have abilities. That is, if the child is Matt's and not his old boss'.

If the kid is Matt's, there's a 50 percent chance the gene is present in the spermoidial genome sequence. During fertilization, since there isn't the gene present in his ex-wife, there's a zero percent chance from her. Genetically, that's 25 percent.

However, his ex-wife could have the gene. Just because she doesn't exhibit an ability doesn't mean the gene that allows for it isn't in her genome. It could be one of the millions of inactive genes she has.

[chicko20_cavs23]

The real power of matt's father seems to be that he is reading their minds for the person's deepest darkest fear/nightmare and then causing them to see it. Kinda like if matt read their thoughts and then spoke to them exactly what they were thinking with his mind. but instead of just thoughts and words... its an image.

[Super Rocky]

During a behind the Eclipse interveiw one of the writers when asked who would win in a race West or Nathan said Nathan since he is more experienced. Now with he emergence of older Parkman and him claiming that powers get better with time do you guys think we are gonna be seeing peoples power growing?

Like maybe Linderman started out with just being able to cure a cut and not a broken back.
or
Maybe we have seen it already with Claire regrowing a toe or even Parkman in this episode.

[XSE_Greystone]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
There's probably a 25 percent chance the kid will have abilities. That is, if the child is Matt's and not his old boss'.

If the kid is Matt's, there's a 50 percent chance the gene is present in the spermoidial genome sequence. During fertilization, since there isn't the gene present in his ex-wife, there's a zero percent chance from her. Genetically, that's 25 percent.

However, his ex-wife could have the gene. Just because she doesn't exhibit an ability doesn't mean the gene that allows for it isn't in her genome. It could be one of the millions of inactive genes she has.

I knew you were gonna respond with that to my post...lol...i could feel it in my nuggets. :p

[Merfish]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
And that was the first instance of growth with his powers.

actually the first instance is him finding his way out of the nightmare

[ShelbyKent]

I wonder if Parkman senior's mindblocking powers are similar to the Haitian's, and which one of them would win if they face off.

Parkman senior's powers are also similar to those of the recently deceased Candice. The main difference his Parkman senior would probe your mind first to find out your worst nightmare, then he'll make you live it; whereas candice would just assume what it is you want to see and would then create the illusion.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Super Rocky
Maybe we have seen it already with Claire regrowing a toe

When she stuck her hand in the garbage disposal in Genesis, her fingers reattached themselves. One of them was even detached. I think it's grown a little bit, seeing as now she can regrow.

[bobsuncorp]

It seems to me that Matt's powers will develop to such an extent that he can enter peoples minds at will and even manipulate them at a distance like his dad can, and I wonder if Peter could do the same thing? He obviously can read minds and so if he took the time to develop that (and thought that it was possible) he could do the same!

[faz]

^I think so too, for both Matt and Peter. Peter's big problem (at least last season) was that he got too caught up in "save the world" mode, especially after Claude ran off, that he never took the time and effort to actually develop any of his abilities. The whole finale I kept thinking, if Peter would just put a little effort into controlling Nuclear Ted's power (like maybe asking him how he controlled it before Sylar killed him/he got arrested by the FBI), then maybe he wouldn't have had to spend a lot of time worrying about the bomb.