Should Smallville introduce Superman in the last few episodes? [Archive]

superhippie2000

10-20-2007, 08:39 AM

once he is superman the show is over seeing how this was never a superman show. i think it would be cool if they showed at the end a gilmpse of clark as superman but then show a bunch of clips of other superman things. like clips from other tv shows and movies. like have the last line of the series be jor el saying to clark this journay has ended and a new journay begins then show the clips of other stuff and end it by going to black. that would be nice cause then it wouldnt leave viewers hanging like what happens next what happens next and can show that this clark kent is every version of superman.

pyroblaze

10-20-2007, 10:44 AM

The show is about Clark Kent before he becomes Superman, so no, I don't think he should be Superman in the last few episodes.

I doubt they're even going to have Clark don the Superman suit. If they do, it'll probably be the last moment of the last episode and we'll probably only see the S shield as Clark rips open his shirt or something along the lines of that. I think it would be much better that way.

Kal-El-Of_Krypton2007

10-20-2007, 02:35 PM

Not so sure about a few episodes before the last. But i do think that they should show Clark become Superman in the final episode. Perfect way to end the journey that he has been on throughout the entire series. Because it would suck if we watched the whole series for nothing, and not see the payoff in the end.

FiReFTW

10-20-2007, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Pesk
Clark should become superman in the last episode or at the end of season 7, with a whole season of superman after that. He shouldn't become superman like 3 or 4 episodes before the end.

Unless it was part of some huge final multi-episode story.

Who's to say season 7 is the last , you?

Anyway I think he should be Superman in the very last episode.

Coyote

10-20-2007, 03:11 PM

Pesk

10-20-2007, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by FiReFTW
Who's to say season 7 is the last , you?

I didn't say s7 will be the last, I said that he should become superman at the end and we should have another season (s8) about superman.

superhippie2000

10-20-2007, 04:33 PM

whatever they do the last episode of the series should be called superman.

InLove_with_Chloe

10-20-2007, 04:35 PM

Well, the question should be: given their track record, do we think AlMiles can pull it off? Or maybe it's better if they don't touch Superman at all?!?
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Son of Kal-El20

10-22-2007, 09:02 PM

I'd love to have a 10 part series finale where Dark Seid and his followers come to conquer Earth and in the fifth episode in the arc, Clark becomes Superman.

Vergon6

10-22-2007, 10:02 PM

I would like to see it happen but only in the last episode, and specifically in the last 15 minutes. Otherwise, having him end the series as Superman seems anti-climatic if we have seen him as Superman previously.

Larry5000

10-23-2007, 12:55 AM

The comments here seem to all be good, well I for sure would like to see them introduce Tom/Clark as Superman I just can not make up my mind rather to have it doing the last season,a few episodes before the end, or in the last epsiode.

Doing it in the last episode, (costume and all), would certainly put closer to the show and let us know that he has moved on to his higher calling as Superman. So for that reason doing it in the last episode might be the best thing going.

Based on what I just said what I would do, would be to have him start to fly away from the farm and as he gets so high up have him turn around and hoover above it showing a good arial view of it. Then pan in close to Clark and see the look in his eyes, portraying his thoughts, some of sadness leaving the farm for the last time, and all of his memories, then he turns and flies off.
At that point fade it out to black. Some at that point might like what some would call the more traditional ending of having him fly straight above the earth then fly toward the screen with a smile. You can decide on that.

In any case I would be in hopes that they would make it a two hour show at least so they would not have to cut any corners and portray and say all they want to get the show's point across to us about. There is my two cents worth.

Crusader

10-23-2007, 03:36 PM

I think that they definately should, either at least Clark holding the costume, or in the last 5 minutes of the last episode Clark flying around metropolis wearing it.

Clark from Krypton

10-23-2007, 09:41 PM

I think he should be superman in the last episode of the series

99point1

10-26-2007, 01:57 AM

I dunno how they are going to make him Superman, but the writers are making me mad with all this dragging the stories of characters.

Everything is like the same, seems like. Lex is a little Evil but then Good, then a little Evil, then Good, then he tries to try to be Evil, then Good, What?!!!?!

Chloe is a wanna be Lois Lane, but she thinks she may not be, just like us fans think she may no be, and yearns to be Lois Lane in her other parellel clueless universe.

Lana is still just the hurt little girl trying to get revenge on everybody because of all the boyfriend break-ups in the past, not to mention, the one and only, not knowing when he is going to become Superman, because the darn writers have writer's block and are stumped??!!!?

Pete never came back and is forever forgotten. My heart is ripped! seriously.

Martha Kent is corrupting congress.

And Clark, well...Poor Superman, that has to go through this pain of seeing his Story slashed hoping that by the end of Smallville, everything will be explained and a the writer's hopefully will pull a rabbit out of their hat.

Boy, the ending of this show better be great man. And I think it will be in some way. I hope it will be. I want it to be!! I want it to be!!!

Alfred!!!!
Gough!!!

What the .... are you doing!!! You guys are great!!

Kiltak

10-26-2007, 07:29 AM

Right now I don't care how they end it as long as they end it. I am getting to point were im sick of watching the show.

The story lines are really begining to suck and I am sick of lana to point were just her character alone is going to make me quite watching the show.

Lets face it the show has sucked sense season 6, the story lines are getting lamer and lamer.

Personally I hope the show gets canceled, the only reason I still watch smallville is out of habit.

margroks

10-26-2007, 07:29 AM

I would really like to see Clark in the suit at least once. It would seem a perfect ending and in fact, I think fans deserve it. Clark often acts like SUperman and he even wears the Superman colors many times tio indicate he's being Supermanly but the suit...I wanna see Clark in the suit or even the most minimal, Clark ripping his shirt open to reveal the S.

Kal-El-Of_Krypton2007

10-26-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Kiltak
Right now I don't care how they end it as long as they end it. I am getting to point were im sick of watching the show.

The story lines are really begining to suck and I am sick of lana to point were just her character alone is going to make me quite watching the show.

Lets face it the show has sucked sense season 6, the story lines are getting lamer and lamer.

Personally I hope the show gets canceled, the only reason I still watch smallville is out of habit.

Smallville is not starting to suck. I don't know how you get that idea. If that is the case them i must be missing something,but i seriously doubt that. I have watched the show since the first episode and have never missed one. And to me the show keeps getting better.

Larry5000

10-26-2007, 03:33 PM

I guess it is all what you expect the show to be. As I mentioned else where I am pretty easy to please, I watch the show just because of what it is about and not try to read into it or expect anyone thing from it. That way I am not too disappointed if certain things do not happen.

About the only thing I wish had happen by now is him actually flying as clark and not just Kal-el, of course many others have wanted that as well.
Some of the story lines make alot of comments as to clark moving his way to becoming Superman and really that is what I think should be happening. I think we all would like to see a little more action from time to time but what else is new?

I say they are fairly good episodes so far, we can only hope they can get better and better.

Kiltak

10-26-2007, 06:19 PM

Look the reason im getting to that point is because there not getting anywhere with the plot line. There dragging the show on just to keep it going. At this stage in Clark life he should have done left the stupid farm, he should have all his powers, and he should be very close to becoming Superman, some could even argue that he should become Superman by now.

Instead they keep dragging certain plot line along and they become old and boring. One the biggest plot lines is every thing dealing with Lana, I am so sick of her character its time she and Clark go over each other and moved on. They have played up there relationship to such a point that its over kill. Lana needs to be locked up in rubber room cause the girl has mental issues, one minute she good next shes evil. They need to make up there mind here.

The whole Kara thing, is not working for me. I have been able to deal with almost everything they have thrown in to Smallville, but Kara was going over board. The fact is she shouldn't even be in the show at this stage of Clark life. More to the point is that she is closer to becoming Supergirl then Clark is to becoming Superman. She has all of her powers and Clark doesn't and this doesn't sit right with me. They should never brought her in to the show.

I have so many problems with the direction the show has taken sense the end of season 5 its not even funny. I loved Smallville up till 6th season, after that the show slid down hill big time.

Kal-El-Of_Krypton2007

10-26-2007, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Kiltak
Look the reason im getting to that point is because there not getting anywhere with the plot line. There dragging the show on just to keep it going. At this stage in Clark life he should have done left the stupid farm, he should have all his powers, and he should be very close to becoming Superman, some could even argue that he should become Superman by now.

Instead they keep dragging certain plot line along and they become old and boring. One the biggest plot lines is every thing dealing with Lana, I am so sick of her character its time she and Clark go over each other and moved on. They have played up there relationship to such a point that its over kill. Lana needs to be locked up in rubber room cause the girl has mental issues, one minute she good next shes evil. They need to make up there mind here.

The whole Kara thing, is not working for me. I have been able to deal with almost everything they have thrown in to Smallville, but Kara was going over board. The fact is she shouldn't even be in the show at this stage of Clark life. More to the point is that she is closer to becoming Supergirl then Clark is to becoming Superman. She has all of her powers and Clark doesn't and this doesn't sit right with me. They should never brought her in to the show.

I have so many problems with the direction the show has taken sense the end of season 5 its not even funny. I loved Smallville up till 6th season, after that the show slid down hill big time.

But you are forgetting. This is the companies reinterpretation of the Superman Story. It's not exactly the same as it was originally written. It is there take on the whole thing. They do keep alot of the same mythology,but also add alot of their own to expand the story.

SteveS

10-26-2007, 06:52 PM

There are a certain number of people who have played heroes that reappeared in different incarnations over time, Tarzan and James Bond being two good examples. Tom Welling would be making a big mistake to let himself be listed as a also-ran in a TV that never quite made it to the level of Superman even if for only one episode. He already has his future pretty well fixed with syndication if that should happen, now it is time to think about his legacy. He should not be an asterisk.

Larry5000

10-27-2007, 07:19 AM

I agree with the one point that Kara is upstaging Clark with having all of her powers and in some ways being more like Supergirl then Clark being Superman.

Here is what I do not understand, Supposely she is younger then Clark, also I am under the impression that they both were shot off of Krypton ruffly about the same time although she some how ended up in some kind of suspended Animation process, appartently being able to age but not being able to do much else.

If she just got released from her suspended animation how would she know anything about any of her powers much less being able to fly.

Clark was able to discover his powers as he grew up and perfected them and even yet (yea I know according to the script) can not even fly yet. So how can she do any of this? Even Clark had to teach her how to help use her Super hearing.

Some might say Clark left first and she had a bit longer time as a little girl on Krypton, even if that was the case on Krypton supposely they had no powers there, they were normal. it is only our asmostphere and yellow sun that gives them the power, so she would not have flown or anything on Krypton, so I am very confused on all of that .

I try not to make to much into it, maybe I am missing something as not having read any of the comics or maybe it is something best left to it just being the way it is.

Some say she has all of her powers but again the statement I made a moment ago of Clark teaching her to use her super hearing, makes you wander if there are other powers that Clark needs to teach her to use or understand it to use better.

If that is the case then it stands to reason that Clark has all his powers too, it is just that he never flew yet and so that is one power he needs to do or try doing to perfect it, if you see where I am going with that.
Sorry if that was a given, that in a sense just because we know who he will ultimately become he has all of those capibilities.

We know he flew as Kal-el and Kal-el is Superman so we know he can do it. It is ashame that supposely Clark proberly had know memories of him being totally Kal-el and flew when he was that alter ego for a period of time. Oh well there is my two cents again for what it is worth.

geoff2005

10-27-2007, 06:14 PM

they should introduce bruce wayne before they introduce superman. FTW

Katylou

10-30-2007, 01:36 AM

I would like to see it happen in the last episode.

I love smallville because it has a different take on the whole Superman thing in his younger years - adding things into the mix. We know the Superman story from there on, so it would ruin Smallville for me, for it to turn into a full on Superman act.

The Wave

10-30-2007, 09:40 AM

I am curious if they plan to even give Clark Kent a secret Identify.

Clark is so famous in Smallville as a Hero already. His face has been in the papers in just the last episode, and without his patten glasses. SO When he does become SM how is this whole town not going to think SM is not CK?

Lex, and Lois Lane were introduced as characters that are way too close to Clark Kent's personal life, They have seen him without glasses and know alot about him. How are they not going to reconize CK when he is SM?

They should have kept them(Lex and Lois) as something from afar. I Thnk they handled Green Arrow better then they have SM.

The writers have really made it almost impossible for CK to become SM and fall into line with the SM story we know.
It will take some massive event causing massive memory loss to pull it off.

Darth Nochi

10-30-2007, 03:29 PM

The problem we still have is that this still leads into nothing. The WB has taken some liberties with this version of Clark Kent and has run into some continuity issues. There is no existing Superman that this version will tie into.

Larry5000

10-30-2007, 05:24 PM

The last few statements all make good points. Again I will say this is one of those times when we just have to accept it for what it is. There as been a lot of statements on the show leading in to him being Superman as we know he will become.

So instead of us just knowing it will happen, I think it will be nice if they go ahead an show us, I would think that most of us want to see him in costume and at the very least just flying. so in the last episode if not before lets just do it. Just my thoughts.

Darth Nochi

10-30-2007, 07:04 PM

I am all for it. I'm just disappointed that we will never see the full realization of this version of Superman.

Odysseus

10-30-2007, 07:56 PM

I think the very last scene of the series finale should have Clark flying over the fields of Smallville in the Superman costume with the theme music from the movies playing, before Clark smiles down at his hometown and then flies off into the horizon towards Metropolis.

mc452

10-31-2007, 09:57 PM

i think it would be suiting if we saw it in the last episode, even if it was just for a minute, i mean, after all... it is about clark kents life before superman, so when it ends, we should see him as superman.

Leia

11-02-2007, 01:19 PM

I know I should be wanting an original ending to this series, but I just can't think of any better ending to any other series other than Six Feet Under. It would be cool if they could rip that to a point, having Clark heading off to the FOS and showing a couple of visions of Superman doing his stuff. In between all that showing what the future holds for all the main characters left on the show.

Rey-El

11-02-2007, 05:04 PM

I always expected them to do so. I will extremely disappointed if they don't.

I'd feel very cheated.

coolgal

11-03-2007, 08:15 AM

NO!

I only say this, because this is Smallville...not superman (well not yet anyway) Maybe a hint of it, nothing more.

rooting 4 clark

11-03-2007, 08:28 PM

I think they should have Clark go to the fortress, say whatever yr, months,etc. later and show some red and blue blur past the camera, and fade to black, credits, the end.

queenelizabeth

11-04-2007, 10:25 AM

If Clark became Superman in the last episodes, I could die happy. Wheeee!!!!

davenufc22

11-04-2007, 03:13 PM

I personally would love to see Tom/Clark don the superman outfit before the end of the 8th season as i think that would be the perfect end to a brilliant smallville series

Vuv el

11-04-2007, 03:36 PM

Someone mentioned that Kara was younger than CK. I don't think that is true. She had a relationship with Lara, Kal-El's mom on this last episode. Oh, and the episode shows Zor-El convincing Kara to leave Krypton. Putting that aside, yeah seeing CK as superman is going to great! I can't see how you would end it any other way.

Smokethatkryptonite

11-22-2007, 05:54 PM

This show is not a Superman show. It's about the journey take the hint.

ForzaItalia

11-22-2007, 11:21 PM

Absolutely I want to see that Clark has become Superman before the show ends.

Originally posted by Smokethatkryptonite
This show is not a Superman show. It's about the journey take the hint.

True, the show is about the journey to how Clark becomes Superman......... Therefore, in the end of the show we should actually see the end of the journey - and that means we should see Clark as Superman.

Originally posted by Rey-El
I always expected them to do so. I will extremely disappointed if they don't.
I'd feel very cheated.

Ditto.

Originally posted by Vergon6
I would like to see it happen but only in the last episode, and specifically in the last 15 minutes. Otherwise, having him end the series as Superman seems anti-climatic if we have seen him as Superman previously.

now THAT is a good point!

Smokethatkryptonite

11-23-2007, 10:20 AM

If Clark does become Superman. It should be the last episode last scene.

SteveS

11-23-2007, 10:46 AM

The last episode last scene idea is apropos.

kryptonaidxh

11-23-2007, 12:31 PM

:D yes, that´s what we want to see., and Lois with him in the last scene.:D

clana4everfan2

11-24-2007, 01:45 PM

I have mixed feelings on this. This is Smallville not the Superman show. The whole point of Smallville is young CK journey. And he's hasn't even started working at the daily planet as a reporter so it doesn't really make sense yet. And he still has a great deal of training and to undergo. They should in the last episode or scene show him flying over the corn fields. Sorry Lois fans not I don't think he and Lois should get together yet in the last scene:)

ForzaItalia

11-24-2007, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by clana4everfan2
. And he still has a great deal of training and to undergo.

No. In the comics he never spent 10 years of "training" by being alone the Fortress of Solitude talking to crystals. That idea was made up for the movie. There's no reason why Al & Miles should repeat it....... unless they know so little about Superman that they don't even know the movie writers made up that idea.

Originally posted by clana4everfan2
And he's hasn't even started working at the daily planet as a reporter so it doesn't really make sense yet.

Clark becomes Superman around the same time he first gets a job at the Daily Planet..... So I'd say the final episode should show Clark getting a job at the Daily Planet, AND show Clark become Superman.

Originally posted by clana4everfan2
I have mixed feelings on this. This is Smallville not the Superman show. The whole point of Smallville is young CK journey.

During season 1 & 2, I'd say: it was a show about a teenage boy growing up with special super-powers, and going through both real teen problems and imaginary problems, and learning to deal with them..... it was really about watching the journey of how this confused super-powered teen slowly grows up and turns into the classic super-hero we all know.

Now with that idea, it's pretty clear the show should end with showing us Clark finally reaching the end of that journey - and becoming Superman................ However, in all thruthfulness, the show has gone in such strange directions over the years that at this point I don't even know what it's really about anymore, or where it's going, or how it's should end.

I just hope to see it end with Superman flying in costume.

Kal26

11-28-2007, 04:35 PM

I voted yes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think that's the point. I want to see smallville's superman.

red_cape_7

11-28-2007, 10:05 PM

no way. that would be a let down to have him end as superman. they should have it end w/ some nod to his future as superman (e.g., beginning training).

ForzaItalia

12-01-2007, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by red_cape_7
no way. that would be a let down to have him end as superman. they should have it end w/ some nod to his future as superman (e.g., beginning training).

The whole show is suppose to be a nod to his future as Superman. How would it be a let down to finish what the whole show has been leading up to since episode 1?

kalellorvan

12-02-2007, 03:53 PM

I think they should have him as superman but, they should do more like one of the older comics were he lands a plane and the crowd of ppl mob him and he flys off to the fortress to speak to jorel of what happened then it should show him w/ martha and she gives him the suit she made for him now that would be a cool ending!

krpto

12-02-2007, 05:21 PM

I would like a scene like this.

Oliver: You ready to be a hero on a new level clark and not just protect the people in your back yard.
Clark: Oliver I'll help your Legion of superheroes but first I gotta go do one quick thing.
Kara: Yah we need to go talk to my uncle first before we can help you guys.
Clark: We??
Kara: Yah your not the only one who gets to represent the house of El here on earth.

A little while later at the fos

Jor-el: Kal-el my son you have returned to me.
Kal-el: I have finally decided I cannot run from my destiny
Kara: And niether can I.
Kal-el: I understand now all this time you where just rying to make me a better hero.
Kara: Uncle Jor-el I would be glad to help Kal-el carry on the name of the house of EL and Protect all of earth It ius my home too. I am after all the last daughter of kypton.
Jor-el: Your training will be long and you must lisen to me if you wish to save the world. fade to black (only because we cannot see superman so we see him and kara go into train and leave the rest for our brains to fill in)