The utter destruction of Lana (and tainting of Clark by association)

[xrayvision]

I think by the way things are going this season, the writers have failed with the character of Lana Lang to the point where they could never repair the damage they've done. Lana has become so much like Lex and so ignorant & in denial of her faults that I can't possibly understand why Clark would even want her as a friend after they break up once and for all.

Clark Kent (aka Superman) would never be with someone who took Lex's money, even if he was told it was a divorce settlement (which is a lie). The money is tainted and Clark being raised the way he was by Jonathan & Martha, would never allow such a Lana to live with him. So not only have they destroyed Lana, by also Clark by proxy. If Martha would return next episode, she would throw Lana's ass out for taking the money and let Clark have it for being so stupid & naive. Martha can see straight through Lana and how Luthor-like she is. It was very obvious in their conversation in Trespass.

I hope evil Lex (from Onyx) returns later this season and lays the smackdown on Lana & Clark and lights a fire under Lex's ass to once again wake everybody up.

[SmallvilleMan]

Well, I've never seen Lex feel bad how about lying and Lana does, as apparent by the look on her face when Clark hugged her. I'm also not sure that Clark or Chloe knows about what happened with the baby or even about the slap. But Lana needs help and the fact is, that Clark has too much on his plate to help her. I don't believe it taints Clark at all for being with her. What is he going to do? Go up to her and say, "I don't love you anymore." He has no reason to believe she would lie to him, after all, it wasn't too long ago that she married Lex to save him.

P.S. I hate what they did to the Lana character and it's disgusting.

[xrayvision]

If Lana gets all pissy about Clark not revealing his aging process, and Clark takes it, I'm gonna lose it. What she's doing now is far worse than not telling her that. I still blame the BDA for not realizing how messed up she is and not pushing her away now.


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Well, I've never seen Lex feel bad how about lying and Lana does, as apparent by the look on her face when Clark hugged her. I'm also not sure that Clark or Chloe knows about what happened with the baby or even about the slap. But Lana needs help and the fact is, that Clark has too much on his plate to help her. I don't believe it taints Clark at all for being with her. What is he going to do? Go up to her and say, "I don't love you anymore." He has no reason to believe she would lie to him, after all, it wasn't too long ago that she married Lex to save him.

P.S. I hate what they did to the Lana character and it's disgusting.

If I were him, I would tell her that she either chooses to live with him at the farm and give the money back to Lex or keep the money and use it to buy her own place. As bad as what Lex did to her, JK would never let Clark keep things that Lex got him, and Clark should know better.

[SmallvilleMan]

If I were him, I would tell her that she either chooses to live with him at the farm and give the money back to Lex or keep the money and use it to buy her own place. As bad as what Lex did to her, JK would never let Clark keep things that Lex got him, and Clark should know better.

As would I, but you realize she needs help. She's been jaded by what happened with Lex and needs Clark. The problem is, Clark has a lot on his plate and can't really help her now. It's also important to know that Clark still holds a lot of blame for what happened on himself.

[xrayvision]

But forcing her to give the money back is part of helping her. She can never fully shut Lex out of her life until she gets rid of that money and starts living an honest life. That is the huge lesson that JK taught Clark. We know that this is why JK hated Lionel so much from Lineage.

[Clana4Life]

Wow, what an ultimatum. "Lana either give back the money or go get your own place." Lana's not his child. He can't order her around like that and it's not in Clark's nature to say or do something like that. It's Lana's money. It's her choice to do with it as she pleases. Jonathan & Martha loved Lana. While they may not have approved of Lana taking money from a divorce settlement (if that had occurred) they certainly wouldn't try to tell her what to do or force her to make decisions that they approved of. She's a grown woman.

[chlarklove]

Maybe Lana being evil and turning to the darkside with Lex has been their plan for a very long time? Lana in the comics is the CEO of LuthorCorp you know. Also? She's not a very sweet, loving person either. She's manipulative, sneaky, and quite frankly a b*tch (which they have been showing since season 2 IMO). Leaving your panties in a married couple's (Clois) bed to try to break up said couple? (in the comics) Is not something a good person does.

And maybe there's something being set up here for Clark to find out everything Lana is doing and for that to be the catalyst that ultimately breaks them apart in the end? I mean really. Clark doesn't know all the details to what's going on. We, as the audience do, but Clark doesn't. From his reaction to Lana's lie of it being a divorce settlement, that leads us to think he *doesn't* believe her, but right now it's Lex's word against Lana's. He can't really do anything until he has proof of everything she's doing.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Wow, what an ultimatum. "Lana either give back the money or go get your own place." Lana's not his child. He can't order her around like that and it's not in Clark's nature to say or do something like that. It's Lana's money. It's her choice to do with it as she pleases. Jonathan & Martha loved Lana. While they may not have approved of Lana taking money from a divorce settlement (if that had occurred) they certainly wouldn't try to tell her what to do or force her to make decisions that they approved of. She's a grown woman.

Yeah, but she's living in Clark's house and there should be rules like there were for him. If she is allowed to do whatever she wants, then what's to stop more dead bodies from showing up at the farm as in Trespass. I thought it was very inconsiderate to have stayed at the farm in that episode and bring all her problems to the Kents which led to someone dying just outside Clark's room. If I were Clark, I wouldn't want someone living such a messed up life where I would have to live with the consequences. He has his identity to keep a secret and doesn't need problems.

So it doesn't matter if she's not a kid. She's Clark's guest and can't do whatever she wants to in his/Martha's house. It doesn't work like that. The same is true of Kara.

[Clana4Life]

The rules for Clark were enforced by his parents. It was parent speaking to a child. The same rules cannot apply to a girlfriend or wife. Her money is her business. That's like a friend telling me that I can stay with them and then telling me how I can or can't spend my money because I live with them and they have rules. Lana's didn't even have to tell Clark about the money - to me it's her business. And when Clark said she could stay with him, he didn't put any strings on that.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by chlarklove
Maybe Lana being evil and turning to the darkside with Lex has been their plan for a very long time? Lana in the comics is the CEO of LuthorCorp you know. Also? She's not a very sweet, loving person either. She's manipulative, sneaky, and quite frankly a b*tch (which they have been showing since season 2 IMO). Leaving your panties in a married couple's (Clois) bed to try to break up said couple? (in the comics) Is not something a good person does.

I have no question about it that this is what they planned. They had an overall plan for Clark, Lex and Lana, and this is what it was. They said from a while back that it would end badly, and the way things are going, it's obvious. I'm really pissed that they couldn't cut the romantic part of the relationship out and have them just be friends. Clark knows he has too much on his plate now. This should have made him not go any further with Lana than being her friend. No, they couldn't do that. Now, they have to screw Lana up so bad that she wouldn't even be a good friend to Clark. And I have a feeling that Clark will accept her as a friend (and friend only) anyway where someone doing what she did in real life would be rejected forever.


Originally posted by chlarklove
And maybe there's something being set up here for Clark to find out everything Lana is doing and for that to be the catalyst that ultimately breaks them apart in the end? I mean really. Clark doesn't know all the details to what's going on. We, as the audience do, but Clark doesn't. From his reaction to Lana's lie of it being a divorce settlement, that leads us to think he *doesn't* believe her, but right now it's Lex's word against Lana's. He can't really do anything until he has proof of everything she's doing.

I know this will happen too. It will end up on bad terms but them still being friends, which will be total BS since like I said above, anyone behaving like that in real life would be excommunicated (she wouldn't even be Clark's friend, nevermind lover).

[SmallvilleMan]

Yeah, but she's living in Clark's house and there should be rules like there were for him. If she is allowed to do whatever she wants, then what's to stop more dead bodies from showing up at the farm as in Trespass. I thought it was very inconsiderate to have stayed at the farm in that episode and bring all her problems to the Kents which led to someone dying just outside Clark's room. If I were Clark, I wouldn't want someone living such a messed up life where I would have to live with the consequences. He has his identity to keep a secret and doesn't need problems.

Martha didn't stop her from coming over and looked very open to the idea. Plus, how is Lana living with him going to cause more problems? He's always going to have to deal with Lex and trespass is really a bad example to say that dead bodies are all of a sudden going to start showing up. That was one of those stalker type situations.


I know this will happen too. It will end up on bad terms but them still being friends, which will be total BS since like I said above, anyone behaving like that in real life would be excommunicated (she wouldn't even be Clark's friend, nevermind lover).

Yeah and in real life Clark would be too........In real life after what happened with Chloe in season 2 with Clark wouldn't be friends either. This isn't real life.


I have no question about it that this is what they planned. They had an overall plan for Clark, Lex and Lana, and this is what it was. They said from a while back that it would end badly, and the way things are going, it's obvious. I'm really pissed that they couldn't cut the romantic part of the relationship out and have them just be friends. Clark knows he has too much on his plate now. This should have made him not go any further with Lana than being her friend. No, they couldn't do that. Now, they have to screw Lana up so bad that she wouldn't even be a good friend to Clark. And I have a feeling that Clark will accept her as a friend (and friend only) anyway where someone doing what she did in real life would be rejected forever.

You're pissed? Try being a Clana fan:rolleyes:

[Jephael]

Originally posted by xrayvision
If Martha would return next episode, she would throw Lana's ass out for taking the money and let Clark have it for being so stupid & naive. Martha can see straight through Lana and how Luthor-like she is. It was very obvious in their conversation in Trespass.

Yea, but Martha loves Lana like a daughter and she's been well aware of what has been going on since those early days when Clark would pine for Lana while she was in Whitney's arms.
I can see Martha wanting to help Lana do a better job of redeeming herself instead of latching onto her hatred for the Luthors like Jonathon did!

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
The rules for Clark were enforced by his parents. It was parent speaking to a child. The same rules cannot apply to a girlfriend or wife. Her money is her business. That's like a friend telling me that I can stay with them and then telling me how I can or can't spend my money because I live with them and they have rules. Lana's didn't even have to tell Clark about the money - to me it's her business. And when Clark said she could stay with him, he didn't put any strings on that.

Lana didn't tell Clark about the money. Lex did. She only admitted to it after she found out that Clark knew.

If the money invites Lex into their lives (which we know it will and so should Clark after what Jonathan taught him), then you better bet that Clark has the right to set down rules.

Lana did the same to Lex regarding the octagonal power source while she was staying at the mansion. She had no right to tell him, who owns the mansion, what he could do.

Clark should do that with Lana (if not for the reason he is the one responsible for the farm) to set the relationship up so it doesn't fail. He is a total BDA if he thinks she could keep that money without any repercussions.

[SmallvilleMan]

And I also don't get why it has to be done this way either. What's so hard about them breaking up just because of Clark's destiny? Why do they have to ruin a character that for six years was a good person and really without a viable reason.

It's a little late to think about getting Lex out of their lives........Kara was going to bring him back into it anyways.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Martha didn't stop her from coming over and looked very open to the idea. Plus, how is Lana living with him going to cause more problems? He's always going to have to deal with Lex and trespass is really a bad example to say that dead bodies are all of a sudden going to start showing up. That was one of those stalker type situations.

You don't think Lex would start seriously stalking her once he finds out what she's doing with his money (spying on him)? Why should Clark have to deal with the possibility of the Kent Farm being bugged (as Lex's possible revenge) because of her keeping the money and using it in such a screwed up way? Is that fair for him to take on that burden? He told her his biggest secret and she's still keeping her own.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
The rules for Clark were enforced by his parents. It was parent speaking to a child. The same rules cannot apply to a girlfriend or wife. Her money is her business. That's like a friend telling me that I can stay with them and then telling me how I can or can't spend my money because I live with them and they have rules. Lana's didn't even have to tell Clark about the money - to me it's her business. And when Clark said she could stay with him, he didn't put any strings on that.

Yep, the Classic Clana reasoning......sweep it under the rug and pretend it's not there. Yep, Clarks brilliant at foreshadowing.....like Lex supposedly visiting Lana at the Farm. Oh no, he'd never come there. Lana as the composite of 6 seasons plus..... is a stupid character......so is Clark.....but his association with Lana only helps to make it worse. Especially, because Clark (around Lana) shows that he never really learned any Morals or ethics from Ma & Pa Kent. Either Clarks is an unbelivable poor example of character......or Ma & Pa Kent SUCKED at rasing the idiot Kryptonian.

[SmallvilleMan]

You don't think Lex would start seriously stalking her once he finds out what she's doing with his money (spying on him)? Why should Clark have to deal with the possibility of the Kent Farm being bugged (as Lex's possible revenge) because of her keeping the money and using it in such a screwed up way? Is that fair for him to take on that burden? He told her his biggest secret and she's still keeping her own.

I don't think Lex would do it any more than he already does. He couldn't bug the Kent farm, because someone has x-ray vision. I don't think any of this is fair to him, but he's going to deal with Lex, one way or another.


Yep, the Classic Clana reasoning......sweep it under the rug and pretend it's not there. Yep, Clarks brilliant at foreshadowing.....like Lex supposedly visiting Lana at the Farm. Oh no, he'd never come there. Lana as the composite of 6 seasons plus..... is a stupid character......so is Clark.....but his association with Lana only helps to make it worse. Especially, because Clark (around Lana) shows that he never really learned any Morals or ethics from Ma & Pa Kent. Either Clarks is an unbelivable poor example of character......or Ma & Pa Kent SUCKED at rasing the idiot Kryptonian.

:rolleyes: Please...........

[CK&CK]

[i]:rolleyes: Please........... [/B]

Awww....denial......another Classic Clana Symptom......but don't worry....the Chlark fans have the same disease.......sadly though.....up until recently......it was only the foolish hope for the "Chlark" to finally happen......now you can include character destruction to the Chlo part of the equation......but hey....at least Chloe was written great for the most part during the past six seasons.....which is more than I can say for Clark or Lana. Deep down......and you can lie all you want......you know there's some truth to that.

[SmallvilleMan]

Awww....denial......another Classic Clana Symptom......but don't worry....the Chlark fans have the same disease.......sadly though.....up until recently......it was only the foolish hope for the "Chlark" to finally happen......now you can include character destruction to the Chlo part of the equation......but hey....at least Chloe was written great for the most part during the past six seasons.....which is more than I can say for Clark or Lana. Deep down......and you can lie all you want......you know there's some truth to that.

I didn't realize I just stepped on the Dr. Phil show.........:rolleyes: Anyways, not really denying anything, as for the chlark denial, that's a whole other list. I don't think k-site has a long enough word limit to list all chlark denials.......As for Chloe character destruction, I may have to, it's the only thing Chlark fans understand when they call out Lana. Lastly, Clark or Lana may not have be written well, but they're still the main ship of the show and will forever be and Clark will always love Lana in a way he will never Chloe, so I don't have to face any truths you have.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I didn't realize I just stepped on the Dr. Phil show.........:rolleyes: Anyways, not really denying anything, as for the chlark denial, that's a whole other list. I don't think k-site has a long enough word limit to list all chlark denials.......As for Chloe character destruction, I may have to, it's the only thing Chlark fans understand when they call out Lana. Lastly, Clark or Lana may not have be written well, but they're still the main ship of the show and will forever be and Clark will always love Lana in a way he will never Chloe, so I don't have to face any truths you have.

Repeat after me......Deeeeeee.......niiiiiiii......al.

So.....how long have you been in Love with Lana Lang? No "Denials" now.

And what ever happened to your catch phrase of "Love Conquers All"...........or did you finally realize that you were in Denial about that.

[superaussiebabe]

Im a massive fan of Clana but I know that its not meant to be..

I agree with her money her business.. i don't blame Lana for wanting to get back at Lex if someone had done what Lex did to Lana to me I'd be fired up with Revenge.. I think Clark will never understand it..

Clana isn't gunna be forever.. Clark will eventually end up with Lois we all know this..

I think lana hides it from Clark because he will never understand what she went through the thought of having a child then the thought of loosing it all the pain she felt was all a lie soo GOO LANA I hope you lay the smackdown on LEXS ASS... He deserves everything he gets.... Don't you think Clark would kick some ass if he knew the truth of the "baby" I know I would...

By the way I've only seen bits of the episode hahah waiting for someone to upload it on the net... One thing that sucks about living in Australia we don't get the show until a year later.. BOOOO

[paolinki25]

I've been saying this for a while. Once Lana got into a relationship with Lex, that was it. There's no turning back. I honestly do not understand why they decided to give romantic Clana another shot after this. It's completely pointless.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by paolinki25
I've been saying this for a while. Once Lana got into a relationship with Lex, that was it. There's no turning back. I honestly do not understand why they decided to give romantic Clana another shot after this. It's completely pointless.

Did you ever see that Justice League Episode called "Wild Card".

Hawk Girl tries to desperately save Green Lantern.

Meanwhile, the Joker is looking at the on goings via TV

Joker: "Ooooo....Medical Drama.......Live and Death Stakes.....Compelling Human Conflict...........(Insert Maniac Joker Grin with clenched right fist being waved in the air)... RATINGS!"


Yes......RATINGS BABY!.....That's why they do it. But this is not to be confused with Clana being the sole reason for Smallville staying on the air.....because with just Clana alone....Smallville would have been cancelled a good while ago. Smallville limps along because Clana provides it's piece of the pie with regards to viewers...so does Chlark....so does Clois.....which is the main reason why this show can't please everybody all of the time.

Problem here is that Al & Miles think Smallville is all that and more (of what the Joker said that is).....to bad that's not the reality of Smallville.......if the special effects on this show were as good as it's writting.....the catch phrase we'd be hearing out of Al & Miles' mouths would be......"We are experiencing technical difficulties".

[xrayvision]

^^That's why I say they should stick more to mythos than ships. With ships, you can't please everyone because everyone likes their own ship.

[migo]

Man... what inspired the Lana hate?

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by migo
Man... what inspired the Lana hate?

In Clark's own words, "hate is so...clean"
:rolleyes:

[xrayvision]

It's not that I hate Lana. It's what they've done with her and are still planning to do to her. Why does she have to be turned into a less evil female version of Lex? Can't they properly have Clark & Lana bow out of their romantic/lover relationship and have them realize that they should just be very good friends? Why do they have to destroy her for Clark to move on? And by destroying her and having Clark stay with her for the time being (until he leaves her), he is also being made to look un-Supermanly.

Lex should have been the one whose relationship with Clark ended badly. It should have been different with Lana, like her not being able to accept him leaving all the time to save others.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Wow, what an ultimatum. "Lana either give back the money or go get your own place." Lana's not his child. He can't order her around like that and it's not in Clark's nature to say or do something like that. It's Lana's money. It's her choice to do with it as she pleases. Jonathan & Martha loved Lana. While they may not have approved of Lana taking money from a divorce settlement (if that had occurred) they certainly wouldn't try to tell her what to do or force her to make decisions that they approved of. She's a grown woman.

It's not Lana's money, it's Lex's. And Lana is living under Clark's room. She can do whatever she wants, but Clark has to be the responsible one here.

[samanta]

I loved Lana last season but they are taking it little too far IMO.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Wow, what an ultimatum. "Lana either give back the money or go get your own place." Lana's not his child. He can't order her around like that and it's not in Clark's nature to say or do something like that. It's Lana's money. It's her choice to do with it as she pleases. Jonathan & Martha loved Lana. While they may not have approved of Lana taking money from a divorce settlement (if that had occurred) they certainly wouldn't try to tell her what to do or force her to make decisions that they approved of. She's a grown woman.

I agree with this. Lana's lie about the $10M being her divorce settlement actually does make sense, in SV world anyway. It's a pretty good lie. And quite frankly, what Lana and her ex-husband settle for is none of Clark's business. It has nothing to do with him. It's not his place to order her to give back the money, if it truly was a settlement. Now, if he actually finds out she stole it, that's a different story. But I can't blame Clark so far. The look of doubt on his face is enough for me at this point.

I also disagree that JK or MK would throw Lana off their property. Regardless of how strict they were with Clark, their son, whom they were raising, they were very kindhearted people and would still forgive people if they made mistakes. Pete almost gave Clark's secret away a few times, and they still considered him part of the family. And there were lots of times when they felt sad that people had chosen certain paths, but still commented about how they could understand why they did. If Lex didn't bring charges against Lana for her crime, I can see JK/MK disagreeing with her choices, even if they understand them. But I don't see them forbidding her from ever stepping foot on their property.

[miks]

Like someone else said, it is NOT Lana's money, it's Lex's money! Stop using the damn divorce settlement as an excuse for her to do whatever she wants with it, because it's not true and all you people out there know it! Lana should NOT be able to do whatever she wants because she's under Clark's roof, she shouldn't be inviting Lex over, she shouldn't be lying her ass off, she has her own secret agenda no one can deny that. Whoever said that everyone sweeps Lana's faults under the rug is right! It always happens, by everyone on the show not just Clark and I'm tired of it. This biatch can get away with whatever she wants and no consequences. And yes mom and dad would have kicked her ass out because of all the lies, and you gotta remember people, Lana wanted to be with Lex from the beginning, yeah she married him because she was pregnant but she still had sex with him on her own accord! So she's tainted with Lex, and the Clark back in the day would never want to be with her after she's had sex with Lex and then married him. But once again everyone just forgets about that, no one was pressuring her to have sex with him, she did it herself, yeah she was in a bad state but like all you Clana lovers have said, she's a grown woman! If she wants to go have sex with Lex then so be it, but she needs to deal with the consequences and not have everyone be like ooooh she'd just broken up with Clark she was vulnerable boo freaking hoo:rolleyes:

[msleggie]

Preach it Miks Preach it!!!!!

[BadToad]

I agree with this. Lana's lie about the $10M being her divorce settlement actually does make sense, in SV world anyway. It's a pretty good lie. And quite frankly, what Lana and her ex-husband settle for is none of Clark's business. It has nothing to do with him. It's not his place to order her to give back the money, if it truly was a settlement. Now, if he actually finds out she stole it, that's a different story. But I can't blame Clark so far. The look of doubt on his face is enough for me at this point.

Thats not even the point. Well, not for me. Lana is in a relationship with Clark. Lana has preached about secrets and lies for YEARS now. Even if Lana wasn't lying about the money...and we know she is....doesn't it still suck that she didn't even bother to mention this to her boyfriend that she lives with? That she doesn't seem to consider his feelings even remotely enough to discuss the matter with him, or explain why she's decided to take that much money from Lex? (again, this is assuming it wasn't a lie, which it IS).

No, Clark can't order Lana around, however, they are in a relationship, right? They are sharing their lives at the moment, and he's totally letting her into his world, right? So, shouldn't he able to expect the same from Lana? Doesn't he have a right to be upset that she can't even be bothered to mention something as monumental as Lex giving her 10m in a divorce settlement?

As it is, I'm struggling to figure out what these 2 have been talking since she came back. Apparently its not the details of Lana faking her murder. Its not the reasons why Lana has such hatred for Lex. Its not about what Lana is doing behind Clark's back. So, I guess its Kara, pancakes and flower arranging? Wow, that sounds like a relationship for the ages, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by BadToad
Thats not even the point. Well, not for me. Lana is in a relationship with Clark. Lana has preached about secrets and lies for YEARS now. Even if Lana wasn't lying about the money...and we know she is....doesn't it still suck that she didn't even bother to mention this to her boyfriend that she lives with? That she doesn't seem to consider his feelings even remotely enough to discuss the matter with him, or explain why she's decided to take that much money from Lex? (again, this is assuming it wasn't a lie, which it IS).

No, Clark can't order Lana around, however, they are in a relationship, right? They are sharing their lives at the moment, and he's totally letting her into his world, right? So, shouldn't he able to expect the same from Lana? Doesn't he have a right to be upset that she can't even be bothered to mention something as monumental as Lex giving her 10m in a divorce settlement?

As it is, I'm struggling to figure out what these 2 have been talking since she came back. Apparently its not the details of Lana faking her murder. Its not the reasons why Lana has such hatred for Lex. Its not about what Lana is doing behind Clark's back. So, I guess its Kara, pancakes and flower arranging? Wow, that sounds like a relationship for the ages, doesn't it? :rolleyes:
and jus think,it might get worse once clark finds out what all she's doin wit the money.She says she's tryin to help those infected instead she's tryin to torture the luthors(mainly lionel).

Even wit this new place of her's,clark was lettin stay there til she can get back on her feet.Now she has 10mill and never said a thing and her own place.

Plus I agree,that if this wasnt a lie she still could have told clark she got sum money from lex.Cause for clark to hear it from lex espcially after lex help him will make him doubtful.

I'm glad clark didnt seem to please wit what's goin on,but I'm afraid that later on he'll sweep it aside.Now if he continue to be suspicious and after findin out the truth speaks on it/take action then this is a stepup.But I highly doubt it sadly :rolleyes:

[Clana4Life]

I didn't realize the TPTB were planning to make Clana end badly. That's disappointing. Anyone can understand her wanting revenge. I just wonder how far she'll go to get her revenge. I think ultimately Clark would understand Lana wanting revenge, and he'd probably forgive her for the lies, 10 mill and secret watchtower that she's built because after all and I quote, "Lana, nothing could ever change my feelings about you." Yeah, right. We'll see. In order for them to break up forever, she will have to do something really terrible. Kidnapping/torturing Lionel might do it. I dunno, but it has to be something huge, I think. Too bad, though, that they are trying to make Lana the equivalent of a female version of Lex. Is this in accordance withe cannon & comics?

[operadiva]

Yes.. we understand Lana wanting revenge..After what we have seen her go through..hell yea...But Lying to Clark and going behind his back spying on Lex...How can we as a viewer ...expect Clark to respect that or to even understand her actions...And Now that she knows Clark's secrets...Why does she think that Clark can handle himself against Lex...Hello?..IS she really that stupid...She knows that Clark has super powers....what the hell is going to be her excuse..the better question is what the hell will Clark do when he finds out that will be the chicken ball that ends it all...so to speak...

[smallvillefreak24]

I don't really get why she stole the money in the first place. A. for what exactly and B y didnt she just wait for the actual divorce settlement she would of got way more than 10 mil

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by BadToad
Thats not even the point. Well, not for me. Lana is in a relationship with Clark. Lana has preached about secrets and lies for YEARS now. Even if Lana wasn't lying about the money...and we know she is....doesn't it still suck that she didn't even bother to mention this to her boyfriend that she lives with? That she doesn't seem to consider his feelings even remotely enough to discuss the matter with him, or explain why she's decided to take that much money from Lex? (again, this is assuming it wasn't a lie, which it IS).

No, Clark can't order Lana around, however, they are in a relationship, right? They are sharing their lives at the moment, and he's totally letting her into his world, right? So, shouldn't he able to expect the same from Lana? Doesn't he have a right to be upset that she can't even be bothered to mention something as monumental as Lex giving her 10m in a divorce settlement?

As it is, I'm struggling to figure out what these 2 have been talking since she came back. Apparently its not the details of Lana faking her murder. Its not the reasons why Lana has such hatred for Lex. Its not about what Lana is doing behind Clark's back. So, I guess its Kara, pancakes and flower arranging? Wow, that sounds like a relationship for the ages, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Yeah, that's one thing that's always been weird about this show. There's a lot of stuff that goes unsaid, and it's always been that way. I think I'm just used to it. :) Lana getting $10M in a divorce settlement seems like something she could mention to Clark, in the real world. But things like money and nice cars are so passe in Smallville, that nobody ever seems to talk about stuff like that, except maybe Lex. My thing is that I just don't want to judge Clark just yet on his reactions to Lana. He has seen her through rose-colored glasses for six years. Which I believe is your point, and I understand that. But this stuff is different...it's more blatant, it's actual lying, not just omission, and it's not for the greater good. At least not as far as I can tell. Maybe she's trying to take Lex down and that's what all the spying is about. I really don't know yet. But as far as I've seen, I don't think Clark has enough information to throw the book at Lana yet. He found something out, he confronted her, she lied, and he looked doubtful but I don't see anything that could justify him kicking her off the farm. From his perspective. Yet.

Meh. Just my opinion. I know Clana is a topic of deep opinions, so it's all good for others to disagree, even vehemently. :)

[Clana4Life]

Yeah, I think she's trying to take him down. Maybe she'll succeed but it her success may end up costing her Clark.

Smallvillefreak24, Lana couldn't get the 10 mil before the settlement because she faked her death. The only reason she's back in SMallville is because Lex made everything all right. She had no plans to come back to Smallville. She would have remained dead - that is until Lex found her. So, my guess is that she just would have lived off of the money incognito forever.

[operadiva]

Lana couldn't get the 10 mil before the settlement because she faked her death.



NO incorrect...She stole the 10 million..still technically it is still lex's money...Lex offered her money due to the divorce..she said no..hence she got no money..the only money she has is what she stole...

Anyway to twist it is still stolen money

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
I agree with this. Lana's lie about the $10M being her divorce settlement actually does make sense, in SV world anyway. It's a pretty good lie. And quite frankly, what Lana and her ex-husband settle for is none of Clark's business. It has nothing to do with him. It's not his place to order her to give back the money, if it truly was a settlement. Now, if he actually finds out she stole it, that's a different story. But I can't blame Clark so far. The look of doubt on his face is enough for me at this point.

It is Clark's business if that she uses that money against Lex which will likely provoke him to do something to get revenge. If she's by herself, that's fine, but once she goes into Clark's house and stays with him, it's no longer a moral choice for her not to tell Clark. He has the right to know when someone who's living with him is doing something that can come back and affect him. I think Clark should be questioning her more about it. I mean she just faked her own death. That doesn't sound like a normal divorce settlement. At this point, she shouldn't be hiding secrets anymore. Especially now that she knows what Lex is about and what he would do if he finds out about her spying (which we all know he will). She should tell Clark what she's up to so they could both decide if it's a good move or not. I would bet Clark would be against it, especially after seeing what happened to her in the first half of Reckoning.


Originally posted by ClarksGal
I also disagree that JK or MK would throw Lana off their property. Regardless of how strict they were with Clark, their son, whom they were raising, they were very kindhearted people and would still forgive people if they made mistakes. Pete almost gave Clark's secret away a few times, and they still considered him part of the family. And there were lots of times when they felt sad that people had chosen certain paths, but still commented about how they could understand why they did. If Lex didn't bring charges against Lana for her crime, I can see JK/MK disagreeing with her choices, even if they understand them. But I don't see them forbidding her from ever stepping foot on their property.

I don't think I agree. If Jonathan or Martha knew that she had tainted Luthor money, I don't think they would want her living with them. Harboring Lucy Lane (who didn't have Luthor money, though she was up to her own things that they didn't know of) was one thing. But the Kents would probably not allow Lana to stay if they knew she had that money. They definitely wouldn't allow her to stay if they knew not only that she took the $10 million but that she was using it to spy on Lex, because they would be smart enough to know that it would backfire (like Lana knew about the octagonal Brainiac power source in Fallout would backfire on Lex like the Black ship did). You can't compare Pete to Lana because he was under the influence of the Nicodemus flower and those parasites when he did that. Yeah, he did abuse Clark in Velocity, but he didn't ask to live with them. Instead, he risked his life later on to keep his secret when Loder almost killed him. But I think you misunderstood me in a way. I'm not saying they would never allow her to step foot on their property again. I just said that they wouldn't allow her to live with them as long as she had the money and used it to spy on Lex.

Also, Lex didn't bring charges against Lana for her crime. She committed that crime and he covered it up for her so she could return to Smallville. She told Lex that he took the money because it costs a lot of money to get set up again after the crime she committed. But she lied and is using it to spy on him. So even though Lex did bad things to her before she left, he hasn't done anything to her since her return to provoke her any further. But he will once he starts realizing what she's doing. And the Kents would not be in favor of that.

[operadiva]

Nope she did not have to come back..she came back to see if Clark would take her back and she was right..Not that i like that but it is what it is..

[ClarksGal]

She originallly stole the money, which she apparently planned to live off of in China (or wherever else) for the rest of her life after framing Lex for murder. None of that screams upstanding citizen. But the crimes were against Lex. Lex could have pressed charges and chose not to. Not only did he call her out on the theft, but he praised her for it. He offered her a settlement, she said she didnt' want his money. He said, "Should I assume that doesn't include the $10M?" So, it can be argued that those were negotiations for her to keep the money in lieu of settlement. In which case, it's basically the same thing.

I'm not going to say that what Lana did is right. She is definitely no longer Superman-worthy, IMO. I'm just saying, the crime was against Lex, and he didn't seem too upset about it. The fact that she mischaracterized it later to Clark was kind of a big deal. And it appears that will not be the only lie. So we'll see where it goes.

[operadiva]

Dude i wish i could steal 10 million and get praised for it..HUmm.Does that sound crazy?
Yep it does?
Even if lex said it..that was ridiculous for him to say...period..

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Yeah, I think she's trying to take him down. Maybe she'll succeed but it her success may end up costing her Clark.

Smallvillefreak24, Lana couldn't get the 10 mil before the settlement because she faked her death. The only reason she's back in SMallville is because Lex made everything all right. She had no plans to come back to Smallville. She would have remained dead - that is until Lex found her. So, my guess is that she just would have lived off of the money incognito forever.

If that's why she took the money (it makes sense), then she should give it back now. Lex would have to be pretty stupid after he knows she took $10 million not to be able to track where it's being spent and not to realize a pattern of how every one of his plans is getting exposed.

I wouldn't be surprised if his move in Fierce to give Carter all that information was to get on the government's good side so he can use them to make a case against Lana and have her arrested and make himself look like a clean guy who's really a victim.

[Coyote]

Actually 10 million would be a very low divorce settlement, considering that Lex is worth billions. Realistically Lana could have gotten a lot more than that. Lex would be getting off cheap by letting her keep what for him is chump change, and if Lana chose to she could probably still retain an attorney and get more out of Lex. Anyway if Kansas is a community property state, and Lana and Lex were still legally married at the time she took the money, she may not have legally been stealing anything at all, just helping herself to joint marital assets. In any case, none of that is any of Clark's business.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
She originallly stole the money, which she apparently planned to live off of in China (or wherever else) for the rest of her life after framing Lex for murder. None of that screams upstanding citizen. But the crimes were against Lex. Lex could have pressed charges and chose not to. Not only did he call her out on the theft, but he praised her for it. He offered her a settlement, she said she didnt' want his money. He said, "Should I assume that doesn't include the $10M?" So, it can be argued that those were negotiations for her to keep the money in lieu of settlement. In which case, it's basically the same thing.

I'm not going to say that what Lana did is right. She is definitely no longer Superman-worthy, IMO. I'm just saying, the crime was against Lex, and he didn't seem too upset about it. The fact that she mischaracterized it later to Clark was kind of a big deal. And it appears that will not be the only lie. So we'll see where it goes.

OK, I get what you're saying. Lex may have praised her, but when he finds out what she's doing to him with the money she took (if he doesn't already know), he will not be happy. I think Lex is trying to be a good guy in his own messed up way now, so my guess is that he doesn't know. But he will definitely find out. He knows she has that money and could easily track it and see where it's been spent.

If she kept the money without spying on him, since using the money in that way will potentially threaten everyone's life, then it would be a lot more acceptable than what she's doing now. But no matter what way she plans to use it, she should have told Clark if she is so against secrets & lies. Clark has a right to know what he's getting into.

I also don't think it's right for her to stay at the farm and not buy her own place now that her name has been cleared and she isn't returning the money. Clark's offer was to hide Lana at the farm. But now she's staying there even though she has money and we all know that Clark won't accept any part of that money to help pay bills on the farm, which she should do if she's staying on the farm.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by xrayvision
It is Clark's business if that she uses that money against Lex which will likely provoke him to do something to get revenge. If she's by herself, that's fine, but once she goes into Clark's house and stays with him, it's no longer a moral choice for her not to tell Clark. He has the right to know when someone who's living with him is doing something that can come back and affect him. I think Clark should be questioning her more about it. I mean she just faked her own death. That doesn't sound like a normal divorce settlement. At this point, she shouldn't be hiding secrets anymore. Especially now that she knows what Lex is about and what he would do if he finds out about her spying (which we all know he will). She should tell Clark what she's up to so they could both decide if it's a good move or not. I would bet Clark would be against it, especially after seeing what happened to her in the first half of Reckoning.

No, you definitely make a good point. Lana should not be lying, she shouldn't be doing any of this stuff, she should have come clean to Clark from the second she stepped foot back in SV and she should have given the money back to Lex and just started over with her new life with Clark. I agree with all of that. I just think that Lana is all twisted now. She's just all messed up. Quite frankly, she's always been slightly messed up. She always had a selfish streak, and she always had a tendency to ignore right and wrong if she was really interested in something (like gravitating toward Clark when she was unhappy with her current boyfriend's behavior, etc.). But it was all sufficiently ambiguous (or Clark didn't know about it), so it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people that Lana has gotten away with so much.

Someone else on another thread (I'll try to go back and post credit) mentioned something about Lana being more independent now. I kind of agree with that. I mean, before she used to run every idea she ever had by everyone else before she would make a decision. Her actions were almost always influenced by others somehow. True, she never took responsibility for anything, but she didn't ever seem like she could make a decision. The only time I can think of is when she went to Paris, and that time she purposely didn't tell anyone so no one would talk her out of it. Now, she is acting completely independently. And really, for the first time. She's not being counseled or manipulated or coerced anymore. Nobody has any power over her anymore. There are no more excuses. At the very least, I am interested to see what happens with Lana. It's almost like an ironic tragedy. I could see Clark seeing it that way too. As in understanding how she got that way, and trying to help her right the wrongs in her life. But she is like broken. :)

[Coyote]

No, I don't believe Lana had any obligation to provide Clark with any information on her personal finances. It's none of his business.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by xrayvision
OK, I get what you're saying. Lex may have praised her, but when he finds out what she's doing to him with the money she took (if he doesn't already know), he will not be happy. I think Lex is trying to be a good guy in his own messed up way now, so my guess is that he doesn't know. But he will definitely find out. He knows she has that money and could easily track it and see where it's been spent.

If she kept the money without spying on him, since using the money in that way will potentially threaten everyone's life, then it would be a lot more acceptable than what she's doing now. But no matter what way she plans to use it, she should have told Clark if she is so against secrets & lies. Clark has a right to know what he's getting into.

I also don't think it's right for her to stay at the farm and not buy her own place now that her name has been cleared and she isn't returning the money. Clark's offer was to hide Lana at the farm. But now she's staying there even though she has money and we all know that Clark won't accept any part of that money to help pay bills on the farm, which she should do if she's staying on the farm.

Very good point about Lex. Actually, now I'm kind of intrigued about what Lex is going to do. I hope it's something truly evil. I'm not going to be thrilled if he ends up proposing to Lana all over again, we're meant to be, you're just like me, blah blah. Ha ha. Ah, well, wait and see I suppose. :)

[operadiva]

Then his secrets are none of her business...that makes them both even..

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by operadiva
Then his secrets are none of her business...that makes them both even..

Actually, I didn't think Clark's secret was Lana's business either. The only time it was her business was when she was sleeping with him. So, like two weeks out of the past six years. :) Other than that, Lana used to get all pissed off at him for keeping secrets, when she really didn't have a right to know every personal thing about Clark unless he wanted her to.

I will concede the point, though, that if they really are trying to be in a relationship, a little thing like $10M does seem like it should have come up. :) But, hey, that's SV for ya!!!!!

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
No, you definitely make a good point. Lana should not be lying, she shouldn't be doing any of this stuff, she should have come clean to Clark from the second she stepped foot back in SV and she should have given the money back to Lex and just started over with her new life with Clark. I agree with all of that. I just think that Lana is all twisted now. She's just all messed up. Quite frankly, she's always been slightly messed up. She always had a selfish streak, and she always had a tendency to ignore right and wrong if she was really interested in something (like gravitating toward Clark when she was unhappy with her current boyfriend's behavior, etc.). But it was all sufficiently ambiguous (or Clark didn't know about it), so it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people that Lana has gotten away with so much.

Someone else on another thread (I'll try to go back and post credit) mentioned something about Lana being more independent now. I kind of agree with that. I mean, before she used to run every idea she ever had by everyone else before she would make a decision. Her actions were almost always influenced by others somehow. True, she never took responsibility for anything, but she didn't ever seem like she could make a decision. The only time I can think of is when she went to Paris, and that time she purposely didn't tell anyone so no one would talk her out of it. Now, she is acting completely independently. And really, for the first time. She's not being counseled or manipulated or coerced anymore. Nobody has any power over her anymore. There are no more excuses. At the very least, I am interested to see what happens with Lana. It's almost like an ironic tragedy. I could see Clark seeing it that way too. As in understanding how she got that way, and trying to help her right the wrongs in her life. But she is like broken. :)

Yeah, we are seeing Lana now living life unchained and free without bounds or being controlled. And this is when her decisions will show who she truly is. I just wish they didn't make her this messed up. I wish she would go to a psychiatrist and get help before returning to Smallville. I wish the tragedy wouldn't have been with Lana, but with Lex. I see no reason for them to have written Lana in such a way. I'm very interested in how Chloe and Lana will be this year. Something tells me Chloe will see what she's doing. Or maybe Lana will avoid Chloe so she doesn't find out.


Originally posted by ClarksGal
Very good point about Lex. Actually, now I'm kind of intrigued about what Lex is going to do. I hope it's something truly evil. I'm not going to be thrilled if he ends up proposing to Lana all over again, we're meant to be, you're just like me, blah blah. Ha ha. Ah, well, wait and see I suppose. :)

I would laugh hysterically if Lex smiles and waves to Lana in the camera. But if he does that, something tells me the FBI will be knocking on her door as he's smiling & waving. And I don't want Lana's end to be in jail. I want her to learn from her mistakes and come clean. I want the inevitable breakup to happen midseason so we can at least get a few episodes of Clark & Lana being friends before Kristin leaves the show.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Yeah, we are seeing Lana now living life unchained and free without bounds or being controlled. And this is when her decisions will show who she truly is. I just wish they didn't make her this messed up. I wish she would go to a psychiatrist and get help before returning to Smallville. I wish the tragedy wouldn't have been with Lana, but with Lex. I see no reason for them to have written Lana in such a way. I'm very interested in how Chloe and Lana will be this year. Something tells me Chloe will see what she's doing. Or maybe Lana will avoid Chloe so she doesn't find out.

Yeah, I used to really like Clana, back in the day. But, I knew it would end eventually. I actually think this twist is kind of interesting. At the very least, I don't think it's completely farfetched. But I really do think that by the end, Lana will be back to her old self, with Clark's help. Or healing, at the very least. Clark and Lana end up as lifelong friends. I don't think he will abandon her. I think he'll try to help her. Even if they aren't meant for each other. :)

I agree with you on the Chloe/Lana interactions. I do really wish we could have seen when Chloe found out Lana was alive. I thought that was kind of a big thing to leave out.

[xrayvision]

I just hope they don't have Lex get Lana arrested and have that be Clark's motivation to become an investigative reporter (so he could clear Lana or get dirt on Lex to blackmail him--Superman doesn't blackmail).

[Clana4Life]

Okay, so according to mythos Clark and Lana end up being lifelong friends? Someone else said that according to the comics, Lana is always trying to break up Clark and Lois with her tricks and manipulations. Which is it? Because if they end up being lifelong friends, then I agree, Lana will find her way back to the light again with Clark's help. But if the latter is true - she'll stay kind of bad and they'll part ways with her maybe pining after him. I just don't know mythos/comics well enough. So someone help me out. I do hope Lana gets all over this and sees a shrink to deal with her anger issues. Maybe that's how she'll leave the show - by going to the equivalent of a Betty Ford clinic for attempting to kill Lex and Lionel and having a bit of a breakdown. Clana could have this really unbearably sad parting where Lana checks herself into a treatment center and Clark and she are crying. And they are talking about how they will always love each other. And they say goodbye. Oh, that would get me. I'd be balling. :( But it would be a good ending to Clana.

[citizenlen]

Didn't Martha accept some money from Lionel for JK's campaign? Didn't Martha let Lionel "fix" that bribe that may reveal CK's powers? I can't recall buy didn't Lionel offer to help JK because Lionel thinks that Lex shouldn't run for senator? Didn't the Kents sold out their friends so that they can get CK's adoption papers?

I think the Kent's are not as "innocent" as they seem. Sometimes, the good people do some not-so-good things maybe for some greater good.

Lana is not in a healthy stage right now. She really needs guidance which she never had in her early life. But she is not evil or bad, just misguided. Once Clark finds out what Lex did to Lana, I think we know that Clark will talk to her and help her out. I think this will bring them closer because despite of what they've been through, they will always be good friends. It's canon.

I don't read the recent Lana, Lois, Clark reincarnation. They only brought back Lana because of the whole Clana SV. The real canon, which I hope SV follows, is Lana and CK become life long friends and she has accepted that Lois will be Clark's mate. Anyway, the new DC writers are a bunch of pubescent pricks like the SV writers. There I made my peace with the writers.:p

[Clana4Life]

"Lana, Lois, Clark reincarnation." Wow, I'm way behind in the comics. Did they all die at the same time? I thought Clark would live into the 22nd century or something.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by citizenlen
Didn't Martha accept some money from Lionel for JK's campaign? Didn't Martha let Lionel "fix" that bribe that may reveal CK's powers? I can't recall buy didn't Lionel offer to help JK because Lionel thinks that Lex shouldn't run for senator? Didn't the Kents sold out their friends so that they can get CK's adoption papers?

I think the Kent's are not as "innocent" as they seem. Sometimes, the good people do some not-so-good things maybe for some greater good.

Jonathan was very angry when Martha took that money from him. They paid the price for it, because taking the money got Lionel involved and when he showed up in Reckoning, it cost JK his life even though Lionel's intentions were supposedly good.

Regarding Clark's adoption, that's when JK first learned of Lionel. Yes he did have a chance to back out (which would have meant Clark would be taken away from the Kents), but that was his weakness and he flogged himself for it as seen by the ending of Lineage. Clark already knows what Luthor money has done to his family whenever it was allowed into their lives. The only exception was when Lex bought the farm back for the Kents and put their names on the deed. That was an act of pure friendship and gratitude for the compass Jonathan gave him, which saved his life. But they are not friends anymore and Lana having that money is a result of a crime that Lex had to cover up for her.

I don't think Clark should toss her out after finding that out. I think he should find out every detail of how & why she got that money and what she's truly doing with it. He allowed her to stay at his family's home and he deserves to fully know what he's getting into. Lana not telling him the truth about that money is in many ways like Clark not telling Lana that he is an alien before sleeping with her. I wasn't happy about Clark then as I'm not happy about Lana now.

[Absentee]

Why is everyone getting so up and arms with Lana taking the money from Lex?

It's not like Lex isn't guilty of taking money from people either! It's not like that money is something that HE earned himself. No. That money is already tainted. That money is really blood money and it's surprising that you are all focusing on what Lana did rather than how Lex Luthor even got his money and how he built himself his billion dollar empire. Let me remind you that Lex himself took money from his own father.

So is it really THAT bad that Lana took $10 million dollars and put it to good use?

I bet we'll find out that she's using it to take down Luthorcorp and eventually turn it to LexCorp where she becomes CEO (just like in the comics).

[xrayvision]

The problem is that the money is tainted and by using it against Lex and not telling Clark what she's up to, Lana is inviting trouble into Clark's life by association. That's not fair to him. If she was living alone, that's one thing. But she's living with him and doing dangerous things like spy on Lex, which we all know will come back to haunt her.

Lana on this show won't become a CEO. Maybe they can pave the way by having her return to college and making us assume that is her path in life, but it won't happen on the show. She needs to learn about business before becoming a CEO. I believe that what she's doing now will be the mechanism for her final breakup with Clark, and I know Lex will find out and retaliate. Because if he doesn't, there is no way Lex will become the classic evil supervillian he is destined to be.

[operadiva]

So is it really THAT bad that Lana took $10 million dollars and put it to good use?



Yes..She trying to pretend that she is all goody 2 shoes and she goes behind Clark's back spying on Lex...I fail to see the goodness in that situation...I guess even when she knows Clark's secrets..her rue nature will always rise to the surface..That lying scheming *****...She doesn't fool me...my eyes are wide open..unlike Clark

[Timester]

Originally posted by Absentee
Why is everyone getting so up and arms with Lana taking the money from Lex?

It's not like Lex isn't guilty of taking money from people either! It's not like that money is something that HE earned himself. No. That money is already tainted. That money is really blood money and it's surprising that you are all focusing on what Lana did rather than how Lex Luthor even got his money and how he built himself his billion dollar empire. Let me remind you that Lex himself took money from his own father.

Uh?

It is Lex's money. Lex saved his father's empire from collapse. And what LuthorCorp earned after that was thanks to Lex. LuthorCorp might be an "evil corp", but never gained money from Lex's secret scientific experiements or other evil doings.

[Absentee]

Originally posted by xrayvision
The problem is that the money is tainted and by using it against Lex and not telling Clark what she's up to, Lana is inviting trouble into Clark's life by association. That's not fair to him. If she was living alone, that's one thing. But she's living with him and doing dangerous things like spy on Lex, which we all know will come back to haunt her.

Lana on this show won't become a CEO. Maybe they can pave the way by having her return to college and making us assume that is her path in life, but it won't happen on the show. She needs to learn about business before becoming a CEO. I believe that what she's doing now will be the mechanism for her final breakup with Clark, and I know Lex will find out and retaliate. Because if he doesn't, there is no way Lex will become the classic evil supervillian he is destined to be.

We really don't know what will happen. Lois got in the planet without a college education or degree so I don't see a problem with having TPTB making Luthorcorp to Lexcorp and making Lana CEO.

If that's what Lana is up to now in the comics then I see Goughlar gradually having Lana get to that point just like they did with Lois. I think Lana knows enough... she knows the dealings that went on behind the scenes at Luthorcorp and she will probably use that to turn the company around.

There's another Superhero who stole money from the rich and corrupted to bring them down and that's none other than Oliver Queen. Lana's mentality in the matter is very similar to his.

I also think that Lana is creating a dual-identity... "farm-loving girlfriend to Superspy-at-night" I think once everything is out in the open between the two, Clark will realize WHY Lana did what she did and he will see WHY Lana needed to create another side of herself to help protect the people she loves.

What Lana is doing is what Clark does to Lois in the future and we are all okay with that... if you think about it, it's really no different. There are things that Superman must hide from Lois inorder to protect her from harm.

There are things that Lana must hide from Clark and it all leads to Lana keeping Clark away from Lex's radar. The less Clark knows, the more it is easier for Lana to do what she needs to do to bring Lex down. Lana knows who she is dealing with and that it could eventually get her into trouble. She doesn't want Clark involved because she knows he will swoop in to save her, risking his own identity in the process and that is what she is ultimately trying to avoid.


Originally posted by Timester
Uh?

It is Lex's money. Lex saved his father's empire from collapse. And what LuthorCorp earned after that was thanks to Lex. LuthorCorp might be an "evil corp", but never gained money from Lex's secret scientific experiements or other evil doings.

How did the Luthors get rich? Were they rich in the first place? I thought Lionel lived in the slums back then?

And how do any of us know that the money Luthorcorp is getting isn't from all his experiments or evil doings? We don't. TPTB never really explained how the company is generating all that money nor did they explain how the Luthors went from bums to billionaires..... Did they? I can't remember.

Oh and Lionel's father stole from Louise in "Relic" so being crooks isn't really surprising. It runs in the family. The money IS blood money... Lionel killed his parents to collect insurance money to create his empire.

[operadiva]

Absentee..you are great at making excuses for Lana..Are yo Lana?
OKay...I see what ever she does you will defend...Poor Lana no brain...no self control...What are we to do with this character..i know what ever she does we will applaude her and congratulate her for bing able to pull it off..Because she is innocent and pure..Oh..yes she is also a virgin..still saving herself for Clark...Yea right...

[Absentee]

Originally posted by operadiva
Absentee..you are great at making excuses for Lana..Are yo Lana?
OKay...I see what ever she does you will defend...Poor Lana no brain...no self control...What are we to do with this character..i know what ever she does we will applaude her and congratulate her for bing able to pull it off..Because she is innocent and pure..Oh..yes she is also a virgin..still saving herself for Clark...Yea right...

Oh yeah and you are so great at bashing her with no explanation whatsoever.. wait... let me get this... actually you don't like her just because she's "LANA!" She happens to be one of the main focus on the show and Clark's main love and that just gets to you. Anything and everything she does will ALWAYS be wrong. Awww. Boohoo.

There is no "defending" Lana because well, she's Lana. I bet she even deserved getting drugged and fooled into thinking she was pregnant! Every woman deserves that!

HA! *slaps knee*

:rolleyes:

[operadiva]

No ..you see she is not the main focus of the show..you must think you are watching Lanville..No it is called Smallville....
Lana at best is better when she is silent..better yet..i like how the writers have reduced her to Step ford wife role it suits her..I hope that they keep her there..While Clark and Chloe saves the world...

Maybe next week we will see her milking the cow ah..yes... that is crucial to Clark becoming Superman..hummm

You can slap you knees as much as possible...Are you turning blue yet?

I am so glad you said she is the main love because i like how the writers really regard Clark's main love ...by giving her as little as possible to do..What we see her for like what 2 mins only...I am glad though..enough to satisfy us all

[Absentee]

Hmm.... I love the "Ignore" button.

No need to read those immature posts

:rotfl:

[Timester]

Originally posted by Absentee
We really don't know what will happen. Lois got in the planet without a college education or degree so I don't see a problem with having TPTB making Luthorcorp to Lexcorp and making Lana CEO.

If that's what Lana is up to now in the comics then I see Goughlar gradually having Lana get to that point just like they did with Lois. I think Lana knows enough... she knows the dealings that went on behind the scenes at Luthorcorp and she will probably use that to turn the company around.

There's another Superhero who stole money from the rich and corrupted to bring them down and that's none other than Oliver Queen. Lana's mentality in the matter is very similar to his.

I also think that Lana is creating a dual-identity... "farm-loving girlfriend to Superspy-at-night" I think once everything is out in the open between the two, Clark will realize WHY Lana did what she did and he will see WHY Lana needed to create another side of herself to help protect the people she loves.

What Lana is doing is what Clark does to Lois in the future and we are all okay with that... if you think about it, it's really no different. There are things that Superman must hide from Lois inorder to protect her from harm.

There are things that Lana must hide from Clark and it all leads to Lana keeping Clark away from Lex's radar. The less Clark knows, the more it is easier for Lana to do what she needs to do to bring Lex down. Lana knows who she is dealing with and that it could eventually get her into trouble. She doesn't want Clark involved because she knows he will swoop in to save her, risking his own identity in the process and that is what she is ultimately trying to avoid.

How did the Luthors get rich? Were they rich in the first place? I thought Lionel lived in the slums back then?

And how do any of us know that the money Luthorcorp is getting isn't from all his experiments or evil doings? We don't. TPTB never really explained how the company is generating all that money nor did they explain how the Luthors went from bums to billionaires..... Did they? I can't remember.

Oh and Lionel's father stole from Louise in "Relic" so being crooks isn't really surprising. It runs in the family. The money IS blood money... Lionel killed his parents to collect insurance money to create his empire.

Repeat, Lex saved LuthorCorp from bankrupt and dismantle. Without Lex, there was no LuthorCorp. How Lionel built LuthorCorp has nothing to do with Lex. Lex transformed LuthorCorp from a agricultural company into a genetic/arms dealing corp. But that doesn't change the fact that they are villains. If Lana does the same thing, then she is a villain. You are actually making a great job in making my point valid.

Oliver... Remember why he "stealed" in the first place? He was tracking black market jewels and he was called for it by Clark.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Absentee
We really don't know what will happen. Lois got in the planet without a college education or degree so I don't see a problem with having TPTB making Luthorcorp to Lexcorp and making Lana CEO.

If that's what Lana is up to now in the comics then I see Goughlar gradually having Lana get to that point just like they did with Lois. I think Lana knows enough... she knows the dealings that went on behind the scenes at Luthorcorp and she will probably use that to turn the company around.

There are many versions of Lana in the comics. This show has not really been consistent with any of those versions. And they seem to always take their own route, so I don't think this will happen. It is Lex's company after all. If he wants his company doing all that 33.1 research, which is the niche Smallville Lex was given, then he won't hire her as the CEO. On the other hand, if he wants to run for office and clean up his image, then he may want her to do it. But now she has become so much like him that this may no longer be possible. What would happen if Lana would become CEO and when she finds out about Clark & Lois, she starts using her power as CEO to ruin Lois' life? It would once again mean an impure corporate direction for Luthorcorp and Lois being a reporter would expose it. If Al/Miles were smart, they would have made Lex in season 7 use Lana to clean up his corporate image (had they kept her pure) & used Pete to clean up his political image. This could also be the way Pete & Lana get together. But it's too late for that.

There's another Superhero who stole money from the rich and corrupted to bring them down and that's none other than Oliver Queen. Lana's mentality in the matter is very similar to his.

And notice how Clark was against it in Arrow. That mentality is the "if the ends justify the means" type, and that is what Clark is against. In the series, we have seen Ollie, Lionel, Lex, and Jor-El (and now possibly Lana) have that mentality. Clark and Lois don't, and that's why he will not end up with Lana. Also, Lana's objectives are not to help people like Ollie's but more to hurt Lex as revenge. Notice how she said she would use that money to help meteor freaks and other people Lex experimented on, but she actually used it to spy on Lex and hurt him.

I also think that Lana is creating a dual-identity... "farm-loving girlfriend to Superspy-at-night" I think once everything is out in the open between the two, Clark will realize WHY Lana did what she did and he will see WHY Lana needed to create another side of herself to help protect the people she loves.

The problem with this is that there is only one hero that's supposed to be in this show. That is the original intentions of the show...1 hero, and 1 villian (with a villianous father who pushed him towards the path of evil). The rest of the characters are supporting. Lana is not supposed to be a hero. Neither are Chloe, Pete, Martha, Jonathan, or anyone else. Any other "hero" should be one who is just passing through town. Lana is not a hero and is not spying on Lex to protect Clark. She already told Clark that she married Lex for that reason. She is spying on Lex because she hates him and wants to hurt him. She didn't tell Clark because he knows what a stupid thing that is for her to do and something that will invite danger into their lives. He knows what Lex is capable of and how Lana died as a result of it in Reckoning. Lex will find out about the spying and this nice act of his will end. Besides the fact that Clark would be smart enough to know that spying on Lex would bring danger into their lives, he also would be against it because it's not the right thing to do. Clark is not about "eye for an eye" otherwise Superman would hurt and kill many people.

What Lana is doing is what Clark does to Lois in the future and we are all okay with that... if you think about it, it's really no different. There are things that Superman must hide from Lois inorder to protect her from harm.

Superman doesn't spy on Lex and use ill-gotten money to his own advantage. Superman does not resort to the tactics that Lana is resorting to. Lana is getting revenge. Superman doesn't do that, he just protects people. If Lana would instead be investigating Lex without stealing his own money to do it and get into trouble like that, then she would be like Lois. Superman is not focused on one criminal, but all of them. Lana is just focused on Lex, showing that she wants revenge. Her actions and temperament when Lex is around prove it.

There are things that Lana must hide from Clark and it all leads to Lana keeping Clark away from Lex's radar. The less Clark knows, the more it is easier for Lana to do what she needs to do to bring Lex down. Lana knows who she is dealing with and that it could eventually get her into trouble. She doesn't want Clark involved because she knows he will swoop in to save her, risking his own identity in the process and that is what she is ultimately trying to avoid.

Clark is already on Lex's radar and Lex obviously knows something about him. I wouldn't be surprised if Lex knows Clark has powers but is never able to prove it. He may not care about proving it to others anymore since he knows himself. The thing with this "less Clark knows, the easier it is for Lana to bring Lex down" doesn't hold true because Lana is not here to bring Lex down. She might be trying to hurt him and do it, but it's not for Clark's protection. It's for revenge. And she won't bring him down since Lex is the villian of the story. He can't be brought down because he hasn't yet risen to become what he's supposed to. Something has to trigger that. If Lana knows who she's dealing with and it could get Clark into trouble, then she shouldn't be doing what she's doing while living with Clark. The bottom line is Clark will risk himself to do what he does because he is the hero. Perhaps her lack of understanding how he is a hero and must risk his life may be an additional reason why he leaves her. But right now, she is drowning in her hatred for Lex. And that is destroying her.

Clark said it after finding out Lex was working with the FBI to bring down Lionel. He said something like "The more you 2 go at it, the more like him (Lionel) you become". This is very true with Lana now. The more she tries to fight Lex, the more like Lex she becomes.

[operadiva]

Absentee..i already deleted your drivel from my mind.....i guess someone is immature...judging by your post...humm..and please don't respond nothing is worse than a person who just don't get it....Moving on...i hope you know how to do that at least..

[Absentee]

Originally posted by Timester
Repeat, Lex saved LuthorCorp from bankrupt and dismantle. Without Lex, there was no LuthorCorp. How Lionel built LuthorCorp has nothing to do with Lex. Lex transformed LuthorCorp from a agricultural company into a genetic/arms dealing corp. But that doesn't change the fact that they are villains. If Lana does the same thing, then she is a villain. You are actually making a great job in making my point valid.

Oliver... Remember why he "stealed" in the first place? He was tracking black market jewels and he was called for it by Clark.

I'm talking about Luthorcorp as a whole not just Lex. The money made to start the empire is through bad dealings. And you don't know how Lex is getting the money now... no one does. You are assuming.

Lana becomes a villain if she turns the company around and use put it to good use? Sure, the way she went about getting the money is wrong but her intentions are all in good faith and STILL she's a villain?

Would Lana be doing what she does now if Lex didn't drug her and make her believe she was pregnant? Of course not. Everything Lana does from now all stems from the events that happened in her life. She would not be in this position had it not been for Lex's wrongdoings and lies. So I don't blame her for wanting to get back at him.

Also, I see this situation in real life. Alot of women who are betrayed by the person they loved wants revenge. They somehow become obsessive. They want to learn everything and every move this person does. Some women want to hack into the guy's emails, their myspace accounts, look at their cellphones and even go as far as stalking them. It is not uncommon. It happens. The heart is a very fragile thing and if you are hurt you will do what you can even if it means breaking the law.

As for Oliver, he's been stealing money from the rich way before he met Clark... it wasn't just a one-time thing.

P.S. We will have to agree to disagree. Neither of us will change our minds. And we all view the shows in different ways. There is no right or wrong. I know the character of Lana Lang and so do you but I'm guessing the way I see her is completely different from the way you see her.

But we're good :) I just don't really want to keep going at this because it is pointless.

[Clana4Life]

Absentee, great posts! Thoroughly enjoyed reading it, which makes me think that Lana might be catalyst that helps Clark come up with his dual identity to protect those he loves. If that's what TPTB are doing, then that's pretty clever. I'm not condoning Lana's lying, I understand why she's doing what she's doing, but I almost feel like Clark backed her into a corner where in order to appease him, she almost had to lie. Here me out before you bash. Clark came in told Lana what Lex told him about the money and you could already tell that he was upset by it. He automatically thought it was wrong, he already seemed disappointed. I think his approach through her. I think had he said, "Lana, Lex said something to me tonight. Is there anything you want to tell me? I love you and nothing's going to change that." I dunno, the way he approached her made me feel like she was going to lose his love or be taken off the pedestal if she even considered taking the money? Clark might as well have said, "You didn't take the money, did you?" You don't leave much room for a "yes" with that.

[Vala]

Originally posted by Absentee
I'm talking about Luthorcorp as a whole not just Lex. The money made to start the empire is through bad dealings. And you don't know how Lex is getting the money now... no one does. You are assuming.

Lana becomes a villain if she turns the company around and use put it to good use? Sure, the way she went about getting the money is wrong but her intentions are all in good faith and STILL she's a villain?

Would Lana be doing what she does now if Lex didn't drug her and make her believe she was pregnant? Of course not. Everything Lana does from now all stems from the events that happened in her life. She would not be in this position had it not been for Lex's wrongdoings and lies. So I don't blame her for wanting to get back at him.

Also, I see this situation in real life. Alot of women who are betrayed by the person they loved wants revenge. They somehow become obsessive. They want to learn everything and every move this person does. Some women want to hack into the guy's emails, their myspace accounts, look at their cellphones and even go as far as stalking them. It is not uncommon. It happens. The heart is a very fragile thing and if you are hurt you will do what you can even if it means breaking the law.

As for Oliver, he's been stealing money from the rich way before he met Clark... it wasn't just a one-time thing.

P.S. We will have to agree to disagree. Neither of us will change our minds. And we all view the shows in different ways. There is no right or wrong. I know the character of Lana Lang and so do you but I'm guessing the way I see her is completely different from the way you see her.

But we're good :) I just don't really want to keep going at this because it is pointless. I agree.

[Clana4Life]

So do I.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Absentee, great posts! Thoroughly enjoyed reading it, which makes me think that Lana might be catalyst that helps Clark come up with his dual identity to protect those he loves. If that's what TPTB are doing, then that's pretty clever. I'm not condoning Lana's lying, I understand why she's doing what she's doing, but I almost feel like Clark backed her into a corner where in order to appease him, she almost had to lie. Here me out before you bash. Clark came in told Lana what Lex told him about the money and you could already tell that he was upset by it. He automatically thought it was wrong, he already seemed disappointed. I think his approach through her. I think had he said, "Lana, Lex said something to me tonight. Is there anything you want to tell me? I love you and nothing's going to change that." I dunno, the way he approached her made me feel like she was going to lose his love or be taken off the pedestal if she even considered taking the money? Clark might as well have said, "You didn't take the money, did you?" You don't leave much room for a "yes" with that.

What Lana is doing now is not a dual identity. It's just secrets and lies, which Clark knows plenty about. Superman is not about secrets & lies, but is a way for him to use his powers without having to hide who he is. His reporter persona is the one that he uses to protect those who would get back at his friends & family if they knew who he was. No other character in this show needs a dual identity. Clark is the one who's been plagued with that problem from the beginning.

Regarding Clark's approach with her, she knew that would be his reaction if he found out about the $10 million. Lex told her that in Fierce. He said that's not the way Clark would see it. And she knew that without him having to say it. Like Lex said in Nemesis, everything about Clark is black & white and no shades of gray. Lana & Lex know that about him. And Lana's actions in Cure (with spying on Lex) were motivated by the same thing that fueled her actions in Nemesis (how she kept the info on the tunnels to herself until she realized Clark was in trouble), and that thing is hatred against Lex. At this rate, Lana will put lives into jeopardy and may even cause some deaths that she could prevent. What if she finds something about Lex that she doesn't make public to prevent publicizing what she's doing and decides to tackle the problem herself with the end result of people dying that didn't have to had she told someone and blown her surveillance cover? Would that be heroic or be considered anything like what Clark does as Superman?

A person is not a hero due to hatred and desires to destroy someone. Heroes are born when people want to do something good and help others without any expectations or hidden motives. One could say that Batman is about vengeance, but he directed his vengeance in a positive way. He didn't kill Joe Chill or anyone else. He brought Joe Chill to justice along with so many others. He wasn't obsessed with screwing over Joe Chill in every way and didn't commit a crime in getting him to justice (like Lana did with faking her death). If Lana was able to get Lex convicted and imprisoned for life, she would not use her $10 million to do the same to other criminals since they haven't wronged her like Lex did.

[DarkseidNow]

It would be nice to see that Lana is the cause of the Clana imposion this time instead of it always being Clark.

Think about it. She's hiding stuff from him, doing the very thing she ranted about him doing for years (secrets & lies). Ultimately, I'm think that when Clark finds out, if TPTB are smart our BDA realizes that she is not the one for him (here's hoping) and that as much as he loves her they will just not work.

Personally I think that Lana needs psychiatric counseling. Not counting what Lex put her through, everything that happened to her since her parents died would cause anyone in that position to lose perspective and go a little crazy.

[operadiva]

Yep i agree w/you..the ***** is crazy..badly in need of some psyco therapy..Maybe she should be smart and use the money for that..But then again we are talking about Lana Luthor..

She has no brains..

[xrayvision]

Try to avoid calling Lana names. I can understand if you don't like her, but avoid calling her names like that.

I want to like her, but the writers are making it impossible. They have failed in developing a Clark-Lana relationship where it seems believable that they would be good friends in the future.

I think what Lionel told Chloe in Exodus:

"No, no, love has a way of blinding even the sharpest minds. We don't look because we don't want to see. But once love has been stripped away, then we see the real person clearly. They're revealed to us with all their flaws, their foibles, and their secrets"

will be what happens between Clark & Lana. Clark came clean on his end, but Lana won't...at least not until she's backed into a corner and has no other choice.

[Clana4Life]

Xrayvision, why is she obligated to use her money to find and track down other evil goons? She's not obligated. If she takes down Lex (whatever her motives may be) the world will be a safer place. She can use the rest of the money for whatever she chooses. Lex doesn't want it back, or he would have taken means to get it back. No, she's not obligated to track down other criminals. I'm not calling her a hero, but I won't demonize her for wanting vengeance against a man that caused her so much emotional pain.

[operadiva]

I can call her anything i want she is a fictional character.She is an ass...

ANd a lying *****...Am i wrong?

[Clana4Life]

Geez, operadiva, what's the deal? The moderator will exile you if you aren't careful.

[operadiva]

Don't blame the writers..they can only do so much..blame the actors..if you feel like it...

For calling a fictional character a *****..Ah hello...

[Clana4Life]

Blame the actors for what?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I am sure Al and Miles wrote Lana as their dream woman.....

[operadiva]

Blame the actors for no chemistry..The writers cannot write chemistry if it does nothing that exists anymore between 2 people...

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by operadiva
Blame the actors for no chemistry..The writers cannot write chemistry if it does nothing that exists anymore between 2 people...
But that's the thing: AlMiles seem to think they can write anything, and we simply have to believe it. It's a disaster, really.

[operadiva]

Plain and simple..if Clana cannot be like it was before..This Clana now is not cutting it...What more can i say

[Clana4Life]

Oh, I think Tom & Kristen are still pretty good together. They just haven't given them any real intimate moments yet. Clana haven't even kissed yet, so I wouldn't say the chemistry is totally lost. The end of Fierce with the scene in town where Lana says she wants to grow old with Clark is pretty sweet.

[operadiva]

Al miles doesn't get it..so like some of the fans...it keeps dragging on and on..that is not exciting tele...It is aggrevating and annoying

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Oh, I think Tom & Kristen are still pretty good together. They just haven't given them any real intimate moments yet.
But writing-wise, does that make sense? Especially after brain-freezing episodes like 'Promise', last year?


Originally posted by operadiva
Al miles doesn't get it..so like some of the fans...it keeps dragging on and on..that is not exciting tele...It is aggrevating and annoying
I have to agree.

[operadiva]

Sweet won't keep many interested..and i wouldn't call that scene sweet..more along the lines of... what you moron..you will age...Clark on the other hand...No...They don't have o give them anything..The actors have to create it...If it is not there ..what should they do ..here is a thought..make Clark move on....logical...

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Xrayvision, why is she obligated to use her money to find and track down other evil goons? She's not obligated. If she takes down Lex (whatever her motives may be) the world will be a safer place. She can use the rest of the money for whatever she chooses. Lex doesn't want it back, or he would have taken means to get it back. No, she's not obligated to track down other criminals. I'm not calling her a hero, but I won't demonize her for wanting vengeance against a man that caused her so much emotional pain.

I don't think she's obligated to track down anyone. She said she would use her money to help them. She should not lie after Clark came clean about his secret. That's the biggest problem I have with her now. She has all the right to want vengeance, but if/when she gets burned by Lex for using the money she took from him to spy on him while being with Clark and not telling him the truth, then that is not right. And if I were Clark, I would be super pissed at her if Lex burns Clark as well thanks to Lana's actions. He should not suffer for her lies, especially after coming clean of his secret.

One thing this show has proven is that obsessions destroy people and relationships. This is what happened between Clark and Lex, Lex and Lana (Lex being so obsessed with her that he did what he did in season 6), Lex & Lionel (the obsession to have the son Lionel wanted destroyed Lex), and is what will happen between Clark & Lana. Lana's obsession to get even with Lex and keep it a secret will destroy Clana as we knew it.

Look also at the obsession Lex & Lana had of the black ship. And look at Lana's obsession in the past of Clark's secret. All these obsessions have done great damage.


Originally posted by operadiva
Don't blame the writers..they can only do so much..blame the actors..if you feel like it...

For calling a fictional character a *****..Ah hello...

I can't blame the actors. They're doing what they're told. The writers (really the executive producers Al/Miles) are to blame for writing such a garbage storyline. They writing it so that Lana is as despicable in some of her methods as Lex. I think this is a horrible way to go. When Lex finds out what Lana is doing and gets his revenge, if Clark is also in the scope of his revenge, then he should be pissed. I would if I were him. As a matter of fact, I would never speak to her again if I were to suffer Lex's wrath as a result of her spying. It's not fair that Clark should be a target of Lex's due to Lana's selfish desires for vengeance.

If one of her reasons for doing what she's doing is to keep Lex away from Clark, then she is deluded, because all she will be doing is giving Lex a reason to strike at Clark when he finds out what she's up to. In his eyes, Clark & Lana are his enemies and if Lana is to be targeted, then so must Clark.

[CLanaF23]

I think they have done Lana's character soo WRONG by putting her done this route i mean it isn't her shes not a liar or bad person its just lex messed her up and them putting her with lex yea it made good tv seeing how much some people hated it and seeing clark squirm,but come on who woulda thought lana and lex? GROSS! they need to keep lana the good person she is but keep the new toughness she has..i love lana and would hate to see her character become all retarted..i mean finally lana and clark have a honest realtionship and now they wanna make lana have secrets? wats the point? soo stupid..i mean they build up this huge love relationship with clark and lana then just mess it up at the end?? soo DUMB! :(

[kryptonaidxh]

:( :rolleyes: Oh yes, I´m sick of watching lana every damn episode, now I turn off the TV while she appears, mostly in the daily loft scenes with Clark, I don´t care anything about her anymore., she is the worst and most hated character ever seen in Smallville.:D

[Clana4Life]

Why? What has she don that's so reprehensible? I don't understand why some people insist on hating her. Lex is the evil guy that lies, manipulates and experiments on people. I've never seen the amount of hatred shown toward him that I have seen directed at Lana. What gives?

[operadiva]

We know lex is the villain of the story..He is supposed to reek havoc..not make lemonade...He should be as bad as possible..we should hate him...but with some actors they do the role so well..we actually get to enjoy there aways and we..i will be honest..sometimes enjoy watching them do what they do best...
As in the case with Lex....the actor is outstanding...always a joy to watch...Now Lana ..Geez..where do i begin?
She is supposed to be Clark's great love but from the beginning she was annoying trying to get Clark to tell her his secret..It is like hello..He will tell you when he is ready ..you freak..Stop pestering the poor guy......He has alot to deal with like saving the world..it is not always about you..
Lana is conniving and she now is keeping secrets from Clark the very thing that she harassed Clark about for like 6yrs...So No..i know why alot of people hate her..No have no tolerance for this idiot..who is never responsible for her own mistakes however they start or end...

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by operadiva
We know lex is the villain of the story..He is supposed to reek havoc..not make lemonade...He should be as bad as possible..we should hate him...but with some actors they do the role so well..we actually get to enjoy there aways and we..i will be honest..sometimes enjoy watching them do what they do best...
As in the case with Lex....the actor is outstanding...always a joy to watch...Now Lana ..Geez..where do i begin?
She is supposed to be Clark's great love but from the beginning she was annoying trying to get Clark to tell her his secret..It is like hello..He will tell you when he is ready ..you freak..Stop pestering the poor guy......He has alot to deal with like saving the world..it is not always about you..
Lana is conniving and she now is keeping secrets from Clark the very thing that she harassed Clark about for like 6yrs...So No..i know why alot of people hate her..No have no tolerance for this idiot..who is never responsible for her own mistakes however they start or end...

This post is so on the Money. But "many" of the die hard Lana fans don't want to buy into it....a lot of them prefer the old time tested technique of burrying their heads in the sand. Although I'm starting to see a change in some of them.....as more of them keep having to bring up the misdeeds of other charcters in order to make Lana look better....or come up with either excuses, justifications, or off screen extrapolations...all in order to explain Lana Lang's character...the more they have to pile on the excuses....the more the stupidity of the character starts to sink in....which is then followed by a slight understanding of why so many fans could possibly hate her.

But I have to admit that as Great an actor as Michael Rosenbaum is......the Lex character has also had his share of weakness and stupidity.....most of it....curtesy of Lana Lang taking Lex's Genitals and putting them in a Mason Jar.....right along side the one Marked "Clark". Lionel Luthor aka "The Magnificent Bastard" is the only villain on this show that I truly..."LOVE TO HATE".

[skully]

Man, there's some passion in this thread. Viva las Smallville.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
Why? What has she don that's so reprehensible? I don't understand why some people insist on hating her. Lex is the evil guy that lies, manipulates and experiments on people. I've never seen the amount of hatred shown toward him that I have seen directed at Lana. What gives?

Because he is the villain. He is supposed to do those things.

[limi]

Last night, I thought about the whole Lana keeping secrets from Clark thing, and I realized that... Lex really is messing with them.
Lana might've been planning to eventually tell Clark about the money, but then when she met with Lex on the farm in Fierce, Lex made that comment about what would Clark think if he knew about the money, obviously he was trying to make her afraid of telling Clark. Then, the first opportunity he got, he told Clark about it.
Of course, fact remains she was the one who actually made the choice to lie about it, so it is her fault.
Oh, yeah, and I did have a point: Lana was right when she told Clark Lex is trying to get between them. The guy just doesn't know how to take a No.

[xrayvision]

^^That's what I said limi. I said in another post that ironic as it is, Clark's worst enemy will be the cause of him realizing the truth about Lana.

Lana saying that Lex is trying to get between them is just like what Helen Bryce said about Lionel I think in Phoenix where Lex countered and said "We seem to be doing a good job doing that ourselves". The thing is, Lex is just the catalyst. What will happen between Clark and Lana will be due to Lana's lies, nothing else. Just like Lex couldn't leave the temptation of investigating Clark and using Luthorcorp money to do what he did and lie about it, Lana is doing the same with the $10 million dollars. Lex wanted a friend so bad, but not bad enough to leave the money & power of Luthorcorp in performing questionable experiments. Lana wants Clark so bad, but not bad enough to stop lying to him and using Lex's money against him (which will likely result in relatiatory actions by Lex that will also hurt Clark).

[Minela]

I just hope all of Lana's scheming and evil deeds won't go unnoticed by Lex and he will triumph over her. I cannot accept that Lex Luthor will be outsmarted over and over again by the cheerleader.

[xrayvision]

Knowing TPTB, they will make Lana CEO of Luthorcorp as some said in this thread. That would be the final mockery of Lex's character. That's like him saying, "You're more evil & clever than me, here's Luthorcorp...you deserve to run it...I am no match for you". Might as well make Lana become Sageeth then.