CHLOE is important...

[litew8]

The begining of the season we see Lana NOT wanting Clark to tell Chloe that she's still alive. Then in this episode we see Kara NOT wanting Jimmy to tell Chloe about the area 51 in Kansas. We now know that Lana knows about Lex Luthor's information. And we also know from this episode that Lana knows about Chloe being a meteorFreak - because she made comment to it to Clark (Clark then looked confused). The question now is -

Why doesn't Lana want Chloe to know about her existance?
Maybe she knows something about Chloe that we don't yet?
Maybe there will be a Chloe / Lana showdown!

[uhhuhhim]

Yes, Chloe IS important, whether some people want to believe it or not. My guess is that Lana doesn't want her to know that she's alive because the second she knows, she might go snooping and dig up something that Chloe will tell Clark that will make him angry at her.

[superspider02]

yea chloe has become more important in the show since she learned his secret in season 4.

[tmack09]

but Clark asked Lana in the barn if "Chloe" im assuming had told her anything that might be bothering her! So im guessing that Chloe and Lana have already had their reunion and we didn't see it, so Chloe already knows shes alive :\ ...now how lana knows Chloe is meteor infected i have no clue....i didnt get that Lana knew about Chloe having a power in the scene, I don't remember it, so.....

[litew8]

Originally posted by tmack09
but Clark asked Lana in the barn if "Chloe" im assuming had told her anything that might be bothering her! So im guessing that Chloe and Lana have already had their reunion and we didn't see it, so Chloe already knows shes alive :\ ...now how lana knows Chloe is meteor infected i have no clue....i didnt get that Lana knew about Chloe having a power in the scene, I don't remember it, so..... When Clark and Lana were talking about Dr. Knox, Lana came right out of the blue and said something about Chloe - which wasn't the topic. Clark then had this look on his face like - How the heck do you know about Chloe? Nobody but me and Lex knows.

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
Yes, Chloe IS important, whether some people want to believe it or not. My guess is that Lana doesn't want her to know that she's alive because the second she knows, she might go snooping and dig up something that Chloe will tell Clark that will make him angry at her. I agree. But I'm sort of also thinking that it has something to do with Chloe's new powers. Lana is scared of her now - something fishy is going on.

[adromidon]

what did you think of Clark's reaction to finding out that Chloe may not remember him

[LexLuv180]

I'm confused by this. I think everyone knows Lana is alive now, they've just not put Chloe/Lana scenes together yet. I don't think Lana is suspicious of Chloe at all, just thinking she wanted to know about the doctor for reasons she said. Maybe I've been missing some things.

[thedean123]

There was nothing in that episode that indicated Lana knows Chloes secret. But yes i do agree something big is coming for or from Chloe

Who knows maybe all these events are leading to a meteor freak melt down and maybe psycotic episode from her.

[litew8]

Originally posted by thedean123
There was nothing in that episode that indicated Lana knows Chloes secret. But yes i do agree something big is coming for or from Chloe

Who knows maybe all these events are leading to a meteor freak melt down and maybe psycotic episode from her. Lana mentioned Chloe when talking about Knox. Why would she do that?
If Lana has access to all of Lex's computers/info - she KNOWS about Chloe!


Originally posted by adromidon
what did you think of Clark's reaction to finding out that Chloe may not remember him I thought it was PERFECT - yet a very complicated decision for her to have to make. She'd not only forget about EVERYTHING since Smallville began, she'd also forget about meeting her mother.

[chlo-el]

I thought that Chloe knew about Lana and they had an offscreenville reunion. I did not get that Lana knows about Chloe. Lana was talking about Knox and said that a headline like that would change Chloe's life. And Clark had the sad secret hiding expression on his face when he said right a headline or something like that.

I think Clark thought that maybe Chloe confided in Lana but then discovered that she didn't when Lana made that headline comment.

[Billy Jor-El]

With all the video survelience stuff Lana has on Lex, why not think that she also knows what Lex has done to Chloe, and knows Chloe has some form of meteor infection?

Yeah, because of Chloe's great journalistic ability you could be that Lana would be scared of Chloe.

It seems Lana has some form of evil agenda (and the BDA gets even D'er believing her lies) and Chloe would thwart those plans.

[litew8]

Yep! But I'm thinking that Lana is afraid of Chloe's new-found abilities. Maybe it is something that can hurt Lana - especially if she's really an evil super clone of Lex's. Muhahahaa

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by litew8
Lana mentioned Chloe when talking about Knox. Why would she do that?

There was NOTHING in that scene indicating that Lana knew about Chloe being a meteor freak.

Here is the dialogue:

Lana: ... you're home early, I thought Chloe was helping you to track down Kara's crystal.
Clark: Lana, has she opened up to you about anything? Maybe something that's been bothering her?
Lana: No she's been working 24/7 to impress that Wonder Boy editor.
Clark: She was researching this story, about a Dr. Knox..
Lana: Curtis Knox?
Clark: You've heard of him?
Lana: Yeah, um, he's a neurosurgeon. I heard a rumor that he's working with meteor infected people.
Clark: How do you know all this?
Lana: Well, I've been doing my own research on the meteor infected.. more people than just me have been hurt by Lex and they need help, I wanna do whatever I can.
Clark: I didn't know you had a secret plan to save the world.
Lana: So far I've only made a few contacts, Knox's name just came up. As amazing as it sounds, he's using brain surgery to remove their powers.
Clark: That actually explains a lot.
Lana: A headline like that could change Chloe's life.

If Lana has access to all of Lex's computers/info - she KNOWS about Chloe!
Lana doesn't have access to all of Lex's files. Just the ones she stole, which presumably were about Project Ares.

[operadiva]

chlarklove..good job....amazing you remembered all that dialogue....That damn Lana she is up to no good

[litew8]

Originally posted by chlarklove
There was NOTHING in that scene indicating that Lana knew about Chloe being a meteor freak.

Here is the dialogue:

Lana: ... you're home early, I thought Chloe was helping you to track down Kara's crystal.
Clark: Lana, has she opened up to you about anything? Maybe something that's been bothering her?
Lana: No she's been working 24/7 to impress that Wonder Boy editor.
Clark: She was researching this story, about a Dr. Knox..
Lana: Curtis Knox?
Clark: You've heard of him?
Lana: Yeah, um, he's a neurosurgeon. I heard a rumor that he's working with meteor infected people.
Clark: How do you know all this?
Lana: Well, I've been doing my own research on the meteor infected.. more people than just me have been hurt by Lex and they need help, I wanna do whatever I can.
Clark: I didn't know you had a secret plan to save the world.
Lana: So far I've only made a few contacts, Knox's name just came up. As amazing as it sounds, he's using brain surgery to remove their powers.
Clark: That actually explains a lot.
Lana: A headline like that could change Chloe's life.

Lana doesn't have access to all of Lex's files. Just the ones she stole, which presumably were about Project Ares. That very last line.
"A headline like that could change Chloe's life."
I took that to mean that Chloe's life could change - by being cured. Not that it would be a good headline for her to print. How do you think Lana knows about Knox? She got the information off of Lex's computer! In the very last scene, they show Lana hacked into Lex's security system. She had a front row seat to his monitors. That means she could read everything Lex reads - which would imply that she knows about Chloe's power! And quite possibly more about Chloe's powers than Chloe knows herself! So I think you are wrong to presume that Lana doesn't know! She has access to a WHOLE LOT more information now than just that CD!

[luvinChlark]

yeah everyone has met one another. Kara & Jimmy met, Lana & Chloe talked, I think Chloe and Clakr talked already too about her powers... which makes me sad because I wish I would have seen the conversation.


Originally posted by luvinChlark
yeah everyone has met one another. Kara & Jimmy met, Lana & Chloe talked, Kara & Lois met, I think Chloe and Clark talked already too about her powers... which makes me sad because I wish I would have seen the conversation.

[litew8]

^
If that were true, why would they make it a point earlier to have Lana verbally tell Clark not to tell Chloe? I don't think Chloe knows Lana is around just yet.

[adromidon]

Also Clark knew allready what happened in the dam he just wanted to hear it from Chloe to clarify look at it this way

1) when they found out Chloe was a meteor freak both of them knew

2) Clark may act dumb but he can put two and two together and see that Chloe was dead is now alive Lois is healed and she seems to be 100% healthy that means to me that he peaced together the fact that she healed him he just wants her side of the story.

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by litew8
That very last line.
"A headline like that could change Chloe's life."
I took that to mean that Chloe's life could change - by being cured.
How could a *headline* change her life by being cured? That doesn't make any sense at all. Chloe getting a headline about Knox curing freaks would change her life by advancing her career. Which Lana was talking about earlier in the dialogue: "working 24/7 to impress that Wonder Boy editor."

How do you think Lana knows about Knox? She got the information off of Lex's computer!
We know from the episode Kara in the scene between Chloe and Lex (as well as between Clark and Lex in Cure), that Lana stole "sensitive information" from Lex that was *more* than just the clone.

In the very last scene, they show Lana hacked into Lex's security system. She had a front row seat to his monitors. That means she could read everything Lex reads
Yes, but she didn't SEE any of this until after her conversation with Clark in the loft. We saw her text messages that her 'accomplice' set everything up for her in the location she wanted and she transfered the money *right before* that conversation. So how would she have even seen any of this stuff?

which would imply that she knows about Chloe's power! And quite possibly more about Chloe's powers than Chloe knows herself! So I think you are wrong to presume that Lana doesn't know! She has access to a WHOLE LOT more information now than just that CD!
Lex doesn't even know what type of power Chloe has, so how would Lana know? At the time of Freak when Tobias pointed her out, all that Lex knew was that she was meteor infected. Her power hadn't manifested itself yet. There was no way of him knowing what it was until it actually came forth. And now that it has, Lex doesn't know because he hasn't kidnapped her to experiment further on her, doesn't know about her cousin's stabbing/revival and Chloe's subsequent death (Chloe burned her death certificate.. Lex might find out later, but we don't know anything right now), or he hasn't seen/heard anything for himself.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by litew8
^
If that were true, why would they make it a point earlier to have Lana verbally tell Clark not to tell Chloe? I don't think Chloe knows Lana is around just yet.
yea lana must kno,cause clark asked lana if chloe open up to her about anythin recently.Thats what made lana respond about chloe wantin to impress the editor,so obviously the girls talked offscreen.I jus wish we had seen this reunion since lana made it a point to not want chloe to kno last week.


Originally posted by adromidon
Also Clark knew allready what happened in the dam he just wanted to hear it from Chloe to clarify look at it this way

1) when they found out Chloe was a meteor freak both of them knew

2) Clark may act dumb but he can put two and two together and see that Chloe was dead is now alive Lois is healed and she seems to be 100% healthy that means to me that he peaced together the fact that she healed him he just wants her side of the story.
Agreed,clark knows what happen but he wanted chloe to tell him.He assumes she knew more than what she knows,but the prob is she knows about as much as him.He knows she's infected and knows her power is what saved her,but neither kno how it was trigger or what exactly is the power.And I think thats what scares chloe,and possibly clark

[jazel]

NOPE, Chloe is NOT important, in the grand scheme of things.
Red Flags went off in my head, when she more or less told CK, she had NO problem forgetting him........................
Supporting characters are expendable.....Clark, Lex, and Lois aren't the supports.
Chloe, and where exactly she's headed, is anybody's guess.
Truth hurts, I know. BUT Chloe Sullivan, is NOT Canon.

[operadiva]

jazel...Are you insane..The show is not and has never kept up with the Superman cannon...To assume that she is not important is foolish on your part...It is very obvious she is extremely important..More so than Lana...Look how the writers have reduced her..to making pancakes...Lemonade..apple pie...Humm..Yes that takes great acting skills...Are you for real?
I am sure the actor who plays Lana wants to do more than bake and cook ok....So nope i think you are in denial...way up to your waistline...Let us no pretend that Clark can find those villains on his own..or that he has Lana's help...

She was the 1st one working at the Dp..until Lois got there...So if chloe is not important..why do they have her still there now that Lois is?..That makes no sense..but this is Smallville Not Superman..so anything goes...

As Clark said to her ..you mean more to me than you know..Maybe you need to rewatch that epi...GO ahead you have time..until the next current epi airs...

[Honey45]

Originally posted by litew8
The begining of the season we see Lana NOT wanting Clark to tell Chloe that she's still alive. Then in this episode we see Kara NOT wanting Jimmy to tell Chloe about the area 51 in Kansas. We now know that Lana knows about Lex Luthor's information. And we also know from this episode that Lana knows about Chloe being a meteorFreak - because she made comment to it to Clark (Clark then looked confused). The question now is -

Why doesn't Lana want Chloe to know about her existance?
Maybe she knows something about Chloe that we don't yet?
Maybe there will be a Chloe / Lana showdown!

From the looks of last episode, Chloe and Lana had an off-screen reunion.
Clark and Lana were talking about Chloe, Clark asked "How is she?" and Lana replied "She's good, she's just working a lot".

Lana said Chloe couldn't know about her being alive until her name was cleared. Lex came to the Kent farm and told Lana that her name was cleared. Therefore, Chloe can know.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by jazel
NOPE, Chloe is NOT important, in the grand scheme of things.
Red Flags went off in my head, when she more or less told CK, she had NO problem forgetting him........................
Supporting characters are expendable.....Clark, Lex, and Lois aren't the supports.
Chloe, and where exactly she's headed, is anybody's guess.
Truth hurts, I know. BUT Chloe Sullivan, is NOT Canon.
Disagree,if this was superman then yes but on this show chloe is important.Sorry :p

[Tacitus]

Originally posted by litew8
That very last line.
"A headline like that could change Chloe's life."
I took that to mean that Chloe's life could change - by being cured. Not that it would be a good headline for her to print.

But she said that a headline could change Chloe's life. I'm not a doctor or anything, but so far in my life I haven't heard that headlines are capable of curing someone. :D

[Khyla]

DMA is right. At this point in the show, Lois could say she's leaving to go live in Germany, or some distant planet, without leaving a forwarding address and it would hardly phase anyone in the least or affect the show much. If Chloe said she was doing the same, it would totally freak Clark out and have a serious impact on the show. If they suddenly removed the Chloe character, it would leave a huge gaping hole for which writing the other characters credibly would be extremely difficult, especially Clark. So yeah, Chloe's important!

[adromidon]

Originally posted by jazel
NOPE, Chloe is NOT important, in the grand scheme of things.
Red Flags went off in my head, when she more or less told CK, she had NO problem forgetting him........................
Supporting characters are expendable.....Clark, Lex, and Lois aren't the supports.
Chloe, and where exactly she's headed, is anybody's guess.
Truth hurts, I know. BUT Chloe Sullivan, is NOT Canon. That is true but she was an important part of Clark's development into Superman once he becomes superman she is not there.

[jazel]

Originally posted by operadiva
jazel...Are you insane..The show is not and has never kept up with the Superman cannon...To assume that she is not important is foolish on your part...It is very obvious she is extremely important..More so than Lana...Look how the writers have reduced her..to making pancakes...Lemonade..apple pie...Humm..Yes that takes great acting skills...Are you for real?
I am sure the actor who plays Lana wants to do more than bake and cook ok....So nope i think you are in denial...way up to your waistline...Let us no pretend that Clark can find those villains on his own..or that he has Lana's help...

She was the 1st one working at the Dp..until Lois got there...So if chloe is not important..why do they have her still there now that Lois is?..That makes no sense..but this is Smallville Not Superman..so anything goes...

As Clark said to her ..you mean more to me than you know..Maybe you need to rewatch that epi...GO ahead you have time..until the next current epi airs...

Chloe chose to go thru the surgery, even knowing she could lose her memories. She was willing to forget CK, that's how I saw it, and I don't need to rewatch it.
lol nope not insane, not a big fan of Chloe, liked her a lot better before she knew his secret. SV made a mistake of making her too important. Clark Kent didn't have to rely on anybody to help him. Henceforth the secrecy factor, and double identity thing.
I underdstand all the fans out there that love Chloe, but I'm not one of them.
DC Comics logo is always present when SV ends, and as much as people want to claim that SV has nothing to do with Superman, that's not true.

[Dustmite]

Originally posted by jazel
liked her a lot better before she knew his secret. SV made a mistake of making her too important.


NOPE, Chloe is NOT important, in the grand scheme of things.

You're contradicting yourself. She either is important or she isn't. I deduce from your comments that you dislike her because of her importance to the show.


Supporting characters are expendable.....Clark, Lex, and Lois aren't the supports.

I haven't read anyone saying that Clark or Lex are expendable. Lois is a supporting character though and so by your definition is expendable.

[jazel]

Originally posted by Dustmite
You're contradicting yourself. She either is important or she isn't. I deduce from your comments that you dislike her because of her importance to the show.



I haven't read anyone saying that Clark or Lex are expendable. Lois is a supporting character though and so by your defenition is expendable.

Chloe Sullivan doesn't exsist in Superman lore.
Pete and Lana do, as do Lois and Lex. Always thought SV was loosely based on the Superman Comics.
SV and fans have made Chloe important.
I don't like Chloe having to explain CK's powers to him, or explaining things Kryptonian to him. Remember Sneeze ? Or how about Wither ? Just unbelievable in my opinion. Hacking into computers means all the answers are out there for her to discover ? Don't think so.

[operadiva]

Do you really think that Lana will be helping Clark fight the baddies...That is not her job...Clark will always rely on Chloe..Who many times have told him to figure it out on her own..So..no i don't care if she is not in the Superman Lore...THis is Smallville..We watch the same show...Lana never marrid lax in the comics..she married Pete..hence i say again and again this is not Superman..

unfortuntely for you..you miss the charms and greatness of this wonderful character Chloe..the only light in the show..who really makes every fustrating moment tolerable...other wise most of the fans would have bailed watching by now

Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

[jazel]

Originally posted by operadiva
Do you really think that Lana will be helping Clark fight the baddies...That is not her job...Clark will always rely on Chloe..Who many times have told him to figure it out on her own..So..no i don't care if she is not in the Superman Lore...THis is Smallville..We watch the same show...Lana never marrid lax in the comics..she married Pete..hence i say again and again this is not Superman..

unfortuntely for you..you miss the charms and greatness of this wonderful character Chloe..the only light in the show..who really makes every fustrating moment tolerable...other wise most of the fans would have bailed watching by now

Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

I understand fans love Chloe, I'm just not one of them.
BUT Smallville isn't Superman. I love Superman, Chloe doesn't exsist there.

[adromidon]

maybe

[operadiva]

BUT Smallville isn't Superman. I love Superman, Chloe doesn't exsist there.


Yea ...and In the comics lana never stayed in Jonathan Kent house either...Making lemonade and pancakes..They never had a serious relationship as much as they are showing us in the show...So ...Why can't You buy into Chloe working at the Dp and crucial to Clark..

[litew8]

Originally posted by chlarklove
How could a *headline* change her life by being cured? That doesn't make any sense at all. Chloe getting a headline about Knox curing freaks would change her life by advancing her career. Which Lana was talking about earlier in the dialogue: "working 24/7 to impress that Wonder Boy editor."

The way I heard it - Lana did not say - "CHloe getting a headline like that would change her life."

Yes, but she didn't SEE any of this until after her conversation with Clark in the loft. We saw her text messages that her 'accomplice' set everything up for her in the location she wanted and she transfered the money *right before* that conversation. So how would she have even seen any of this stuff?

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a little when I spoke of her viewing the screens. But I'm thinking that Lana is privy to A LOT - even the information that Lex has on Clark Kent - that could be how the clone (if exists) knows about him being extra-ordinary. And I'd think that Lex Luthor has enough science to determine meteroFreak's abilities by examining them - he has 33.1 for a reason.

Lex doesn't even know what type of power Chloe has, so how would Lana know? At the time of Freak when Tobias pointed her out, all that Lex knew was that she was meteor infected. Her power hadn't manifested itself yet. There was no way of him knowing what it was until it actually came forth. And now that it has, Lex doesn't know because he hasn't kidnapped her to experiment further on her, doesn't know about her cousin's stabbing/revival and Chloe's subsequent death (Chloe burned her death certificate.. Lex might find out later, but we don't know anything right now), or he hasn't seen/heard anything for himself.

I'm not so certain. Didn't Lex actually inject her with green-k? Then he told his men to keep an eye on her. I'm sure by examination, Lex could tell that she had a green-K heart. Maybe Lex wanted to inject her with the green-K so that her powers would evolve quicker - and he wanted his men to keep an eye on her.
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Originally posted by Tacitus
But she said that a headline could change Chloe's life. I'm not a doctor or anything, but so far in my life I haven't heard that headlines are capable of curing someone. :D

My point was this - Lana said a headline like that would or could (whatever) change Chloe's life. I understood that to mean - A Headline about a doctor that can cure meteor infected people - would, or could CURE CHLOE - thereby changing her life. That's why it doesn't make any sense to me. If Lana hasn't actually met-up with Chloe yet - Chloe doesn't know she's alive. Besides that, Lana isn't suppose to know about Chloe's new-found powers - how could she possibly know. And, Clark looked at Lana with a strange face after she said it - I don't think he made that face at Lana because he thought that a Headline would propel her career.

[wolverine316]

Originally posted by operadiva
Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Your saying the majority of the fans care more for a character that has nothing to do with Superman's history than they do for Clark himself. Get a grip. If that were really true as you think they would do a spinoff with Chloe as the central character. But guess what that ain't happening!!!

[litew8]

What I don't get - How can people SUSPECT that there is OFF-SCREEN meetings or reunions. So some people are saying that Lana actually did meet with Chloe? In one episode, Lana is telling Chlark - DON'T TELL CHLOE I'M ALIVE. Well, WHY NOT! They are freinds aren't they! Then in the recent episode, Lana acts as if she's been chatting with Chloe, as if Chloe already knows she's alive. THIS IS TERRIBLE.

WHO KNOWS LANA IS ALIVE?
DAMN, SHE BLEW UP - THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYONE IS JUST FINE WITH THE FACT THAT SHE'S WALKING AROUND. NOBODY EVEN CARES TO QUESTION IT?

IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE PROCUDERS!

[jazel]

Originally posted by operadiva

Yea ...and In the comics lana never stayed in Jonathan Kent house either...Making lemonade and pancakes..They never had a serious relationship as much as they are showing us in the show...So ...Why can't You buy into Chloe working at the Dp and crucial to Clark..
I just don't buy into Chloe being all that important in CK's destiny. I know SV is doing otherwise, and I'm not really caring for it. Like I said before, I liked Chloe before she knew his secret.

[litew8]

I think Chloe is going to be within the epi-center of the Smallville Series Conclusion. She will be within the TOP 3 important revelations to transpire out of Smallville.

[jazel]

^^^ I really hope not. I'm hanging around, to get a glimpse of Superman.lol

[Serynarpc]

Chloe's the heart of Smallville. The night she dies- and doesn't come back- is the night that I quit watching.


Originally posted by operadiva
Do you really think that Lana will be helping Clark fight the baddies...That is not her job...Clark will always rely on Chloe..Who many times have told him to figure it out on her own..So..no i don't care if she is not in the Superman Lore...THis is Smallville..We watch the same show...Lana never marrid lax in the comics..she married Pete..hence i say again and again this is not Superman..

unfortuntely for you..you miss the charms and greatness of this wonderful character Chloe..the only light in the show..who really makes every fustrating moment tolerable...other wise most of the fans would have bailed watching by now

Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

Lana will be fighting split ends and 'starting charities' for 33.1 while really doing sod all of anything important.


Originally posted by wolverine316
That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Your saying the majority of the fans care more for a character that has nothing to do with Superman's history than they do for Clark himself. Get a grip. If that were really true as you think they would do a spinoff with Chloe as the central character. But guess what that ain't happening!!!

Thats not a very nice thing to say. You can have your opinion, but telling someone to get a grip just because you don't agree with them is harsh. I would *love* a Chloe spin off if Clark graduates and becomes Superman- but not until then because I don't want Chloe to be without Clark.


Originally posted by litew8
What I don't get - How can people SUSPECT that there is OFF-SCREEN meetings or reunions. So some people are saying that Lana actually did meet with Chloe? In one episode, Lana is telling Chlark - DON'T TELL CHLOE I'M ALIVE. Well, WHY NOT! They are freinds aren't they! Then in the recent episode, Lana acts as if she's been chatting with Chloe, as if Chloe already knows she's alive. THIS IS TERRIBLE.

WHO KNOWS LANA IS ALIVE?
DAMN, SHE BLEW UP - THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYONE IS JUST FINE WITH THE FACT THAT SHE'S WALKING AROUND. NOBODY EVEN CARES TO QUESTION IT?

IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE PROCUDERS!

Off screen meetings and reunions are BS. Completely fabricated in people's minds like some people claiming such and such is happening because someone walked out of a certain room. Reading WAY too much into things.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by Serynarpc
Chloe's the heart of Smallville. The night she dies- and doesn't come back- is the night that I quit watching.
i love you! :)


I would *love* a Chloe spin off if Clark graduates and becomes Superman- but not until then because I don't want Chloe to be without Clark.
i would love that too.

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Originally posted by operadiva
...unfortuntely for you..you miss the charms and greatness of this wonderful character Chloe..the only light in the show..who really makes every fustrating moment tolerable...other wise most of the fans would have bailed watching by now
TRUE!

Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

Originally posted by wolverine316
That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Your saying the majority of the fans care more for a character that has nothing to do with Superman's history than they do for Clark himself.
YES

Get a grip. If that were really true as you think they would do a spinoff with Chloe as the central character. But guess what that ain't happening!!!

And guess what? I understand the original pitch for a show before they decided to do Smallville was for the history of the young girl who eventually became a top reporter at the Daily Planet and inseparable partner to Clark Kent/Superman. :)

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Off screen meetings and reunions are BS. Completely fabricated in people's minds like some people claiming such and such is happening because someone walked out of a certain room. Reading WAY too much into things. [/B]
Offscreenville is a fun little pastime of fanfiction.:)

...Then in the recent episode, Lana acts as if she's been chatting with Chloe, as if Chloe already knows she's alive. This is correct. In this case, the writers, or directors, really did choose to skip over the "earth-shattering" news and reunion between Chloe and Lana. They act like it's supposed to be a couple weeks later. Maybe they felt it wasn't something that would be especially entertaining for the viewers, or are holding out on letting us in on her initial reaction for some later epi. or else I'm guessing they couldn't pull off how to make it credible how Chloe would react, being she, herself just came back from being dead and then sees Lana? I think she might have just passed out.

[Lauren17]

I think it makes perfect sense. Off screen stories take place all the time, it's given. All shows do that.

And, when Lana said a headline like that, I took it as it could get Chloe out of the basement of the DP. That would def. change her life.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Khyla
And guess what? I understand the original pitch for a show before they decided to do Smallville was for the history of the young girl who eventually became a top reporter at the Daily Planet and inseparable partner to Clark Kent/Superman. :)

Now THAT's some interesting information. :D

[operadiva]

Yep that is true..i thought everyone knew that?

[litew8]

^^
Thanks for making me feel under-informed.
Just kidding. :p

[Khyla]

litew8 your avi are always so good! This current one is freakin cool!

[skully]

People, this is Smallville. The only untouchable characters (as we have been lead to believe by TPTB) in Smallville are Clark (no flights no tights), Lex, and Lois. Therefore AlMiles can do whatever they like to Chloe, Lana , Jimmy, Shelby, Ma and Pa Kent, and Bruce the grocery delivery guy. Why do people get all bent out of shape if the people that put the show together (that's right, they arrange finance, and scripts and budgets and everything else that goes with a weekly show) go off on a tangent that is not canon. Lighten up and just enjoy the show.

I for one love Chloe, and Lana. And Chloe will continue to be important until either AM leaves or the show ends.

[Honey45]

I thought they said once that Lana was untouchable as well?

[litew8]

Originally posted by Khyla
litew8 your avi are always so good! This current one is freakin cool! Thanks Khyla! It took me a little bit to make it, but I thought it'd go good with my theory. :p ;) :D :)

[operadiva]

I 'm sorry...didn't mean to litew8

As for Lana spying....she ain't no sherlock holmes...

[Dor el]

Originally posted by Tacitus
But she said that a headline could change Chloe's life. I'm not a doctor or anything, but so far in my life I haven't heard that headlines are capable of curing someone. :D

Why are we talking about a headline healing ??????????????anyone. I really think that the "headline like this could change Chloe's life" and "Chloe's cure" are not yet related. I did not get the impression that Lana know about Chloe's secret.

[adromidon]

well it is possible that Clark told her off camera

[litew8]

Originally posted by operadiva
I 'm sorry...didn't mean to litew8

As for Lana spying....she ain't no sherlock holmes... Nah, no need to be sorry.
Aint no Sherlock Holmes, maybe more like Dr. Jeckle & Mr. Hyde. :D


Originally posted by Dor el
Why are we talking about a headline healing ??????????????anyone. I really think that the "headline like this could change Chloe's life" and "Chloe's cure" are not yet related. I did not get the impression that Lana know about Chloe's secret. If you can go back and re-watch the episode, I think Clark has a weird look on his face after Lana mentions it. I might be wrong - but I thought Clark was like "Duh, Huh?" after Lana said that about Chloe.

[Black Panda]

Originally posted by Dor el
I really think that the "headline like this could change Chloe's life" and "Chloe's cure" are not yet related. I did not get the impression that Lana know about Chloe's secret.

Clark could put a different meaning on this. I know I did. Sasha had a little scar, a headline if you will, as the result of her brain surgery.

I supect Lana didn't mean to suggest it, but the double meaning makes it creepier.

[adromidon]

I am wondering what tptb are planing though weather she knows about chloe or not

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

I got the feeling that Lana was choosing her words carefully.

[Dor el]

Originally posted by adromidon
Well it is possible that Clark told her off camera

It's also possible that he secretly flies off camera, but I don't think so.

[adromidon]

she obviously knows more then she is telling Clark

[Dor el]

Originally posted by litew8
If you can go back and re-watch the episode, I think Clark has a weird look on his face after Lana mentions it. I might be wrong - but I thought Clark was like "Duh, Huh?" after Lana said that about Chloe.

litew8, you may be right. I really don't know. Lana may very well know about Chloe. I just don't think that the comment Lana made indicates that she does know about Chloe. I thought the wierd expression on Clark's face related to the fact that Lana knew about Lex's business and thereby Dr. Knox. 'Cause if she knows about Lex's dirty business and hasn't said anything, then Clark will be disappointed with her letting him get away with stuff unfettered.

Heck, with all that Lex had done to Lana, she may very well be a meteor freak as well. Although, Tobias didn't point out Lana as being a meteor freak.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Dor el
...I thought the wierd expression on Clark's face related to the fact that Lana knew about Lex's business and thereby Dr. Knox. 'Cause if she knows about Lex's dirty business and hasn't said anything, then Clark will be disappointed with her letting him get away with stuff unfettered. Which brings me back to what I was thinking earlier. If Lana knows about Dr. Knox - it doesn't rule out the possiblity that she also knows about Chloe's powers. Even though they only showed Lana viewing the monitors at the end of the epi, she was still privy to Dr. Knox and most likely Lex's envolvement with him - and most likely everything else prior to Knox (hence, Chloe's powers).


Originally posted by Dor el
Heck, with all that Lex had done to Lana, she may very well be a meteor freak as well. Although, Tobias didn't point out Lana as being a meteor freak. Not so much a meteor freak - rather Lex's clone of Lana.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by litew8
Which brings me back to what I was thinking earlier. If Lana knows about Dr. Knox - it doesn't rule out the possiblity that she also knows about Chloe's powers. Even though they only showed Lana viewing the monitors at the end of the epi, she was still privy to Dr. Knox and most likely Lex's envolvement with him - and most likely everything else prior to Knox (hence, Chloe's powers).
Maybe not know chloe's power,but she might definitely kno chloe is infected.As of now only clark/chloe know she can heal but not even they kno how its trigger or if it may kill her.So I think if lana has been lookin up on lex/knox then she might know that chloe is infected.And that might be what she was referrin 2,we wont kno til a later epi maybe when chlana finally showup on screen together :\

[litew8]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
Maybe not know chloe's power,but she might definitely kno chloe is infected.As of now only clark/chloe know she can heal but not even they kno how its trigger or if it may kill her.So I think if lana has been lookin up on lex/knox then she might know that chloe is infected.And that might be what she was referrin 2,we wont kno til a later epi maybe when chlana finally showup on screen together :\ Okay, fair enough. Lana might be privy to knowing that Chloe is infected. But that still doesn't explain WHY she didn't want Chloe to know that she (Lana) was alive and not dead. Did she really think that she (Chloe) would take advantage and try to publish a story about her? Or is there something else going on. Lana knows something about Chloe and doesn't want her near her or is afraid of her.

[DestinyAw8s]

Originally posted by operadiva
other wise most of the fans would have bailed watching by now

Don't think Al & Miles don't know this...They know that the majority of Fans loves her alot...More so than Clark and Lana..and lex....Don't kid yourself she is crucial to Clark's development in Smallville..

The number of internet fans posting on these sites is only an nth of the Smallville fanbase. The majority of viewers don't even bother. I have a lot of friends watching this show and none of them do this. And as far as I can ascetain, many of the fans posting on the various sites are actually the exact same people, only using different names.

No, Chloe is not that crucial. The show would most certainly survive without her in it, but most definitely would not without Clark Kent. He is the pivotal character, the heart of this show, and all the other characters play off him accordingly. Despite what many of the posters would like to believe, Smallville could, and probably would, do just fine with only Clark and Lex and some really excellent writing. Also the appearances of other DC characters wouldn't hurt either. It would lose some viewers, no doubt. But I don't doubt that it would draw many (and there are a lot more than you might imagine) back in again who dropped out because of the seemingly endless melodrama and sappiness.

And if this show is actually about some "unknown" girl working her way up the ladder at a newspaper conglomerate, then I have been woefully misled. Because, if this is not really a story of superboy's growth into Superman, then why even plug that one point so excessively during the lead up to the premiere? And if it doesn't pertain to the Superman mythos at all, then how dare they baldly stick the name of Superman and his creators in the opening credits. They have a damned nerve!:mad:

[Khyla]

Originally posted by DestinyAw8s
...
And if this show is actually about some "unknown" girl working her way up the ladder at a newspaper conglomerate, then I have been woefully misled. Because, if this is not really a story of superboy's growth into Superman, then why even plug that one point so excessively during the lead up to the premiere? And if it doesn't pertain to the Superman mythos at all, then how dare they baldly stick the name of Superman and his creators in the opening credits. They have a damned nerve!:mad:

All I heard was that AlMiles' original pitch for the TV series was for a "Young Lois Lane" series, and were turned down. So their original premise was to be their version of the backstory or history of Superman's closest female partner when she was young, her adventures and experiences before she became the well-known Daily Planet reporter. Of course it's about Superman's too, because let's face it, she wouldn't have that importance if not for her acquaintance with him.

And to further explain that his "choe" is not "some unknown girl" :
--my post from another thread--

AlMiles themselves wanted to do a Lois Lane story; that was what they first presented and it was shot down as not being "worthy" enough. I think there is some laughing in the face about that one: I can just see them saying, " OK you want a Lois lane who is not worthy of her own story, her own historical development and depth of character, we'll give you a Lois lane who is not worthy of her own story, etc." ..... And viola! we have EDlois, BUT.... BUT..... do you honestly think they scrapped all that went into their planning stages for a well-developed storyline that delved deeply into their version of the events and growing pains and historical development of who they originally considered to be a beloved character, worthy enough to give her her own TV series?

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by litew8
Okay, fair enough. Lana might be privy to knowing that Chloe is infected. But that still doesn't explain WHY she didn't want Chloe to know that she (Lana) was alive and not dead. Did she really think that she (Chloe) would take advantage and try to publish a story about her? Or is there something else going on. Lana knows something about Chloe and doesn't want her near her or is afraid of her.
True it doesnt make sense to not wanna tell chloe,but who knows lana's reasons :\ .I mean she might think chloe would take advantage since in truth she admitted to thinkin the worst of chloe.But she should now,so who knows...Also there was nothin 2 take advantage of imo,chloe would go see lana if anythin first since she missed her.As for not wantin chloe to know/hidin sumthin it might be that w/e her secret is is enough to drive clark away.We kno chlark dont keep secrets from each other atleast not long,so if chloe knows and thinks diff of her then so will clark.It seems lana isnt trust anyone right now not even her 2 bestfriends

[tmack09]

Originally posted by Serynarpc
.......... Reading WAY too much into things.

^^Can I just say that this particular sentence sums up A LOT of the messages left on this thread!! :lol:

I went and rewatched the scene with Lana and Clark, NOTHING indicated that Lana knows about Chloe's power, or that she even knows that Chloe is meteor infected, im sorry i just don't see it!

Now as much as a LOVE Lana...good or bad...simple-minded at times or clever..I think people are reading too much into what Lana might actually know about everything! lol.

ON ANOTHER NOTE....
I personally think Chloe is quite an important character, I look at her as more of an inspiration of how Clark becomes a reporter himself, IMO shes not "mention" in the actual Superman series because they probably didn't want to take away Mr. Clark Kent/Superman's thunder! :lol: that just my opinion ;)

[jazel]

NOPE Chloe isn't important......in Superman's Mythos, she ain't even there, HE figured it ALL out, on his own.LOL

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by jazel
NOPE Chloe isn't important......in Superman's Mythos, she ain't even there, HE figured it ALL out, on his own.LOL
Yes u r right,in the Superman Myths she isnt important/isnt there.But on smallville she's important sorry :p

[jazel]

and what is Smallville, in regards to SUPERMAN ? lol
sorry, but I ain't gonna praise a pair of idiots, as being brilliant any time soon.NO matter how many Chloe's in SV.lol

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by jazel
and what is Smallville, in regards to SUPERMAN ? lol
sorry, but I ain't gonna praise a pair of idiots, as being brilliant any time soon.NO matter how many Chloe's in SV.lol
But i dont think that was the question tho,its bein asked if she's important on smallville not in the superman comics/myths.No one is askin u to praise tptb,but atleast give a better reason for why u disagree wit her bein important on SV not superman :\

[tmack09]

Originally posted by jazel
NOPE Chloe isn't important......in Superman's Mythos, she ain't even there, HE figured it ALL out, on his own.LOL

:p ok fiiine Jazel!! u win with the Superman Mythos part....but in SV whether anyone likes it or not, they have made Miss. Sullivan quite an important character!...she may not have been inportant in the past but she sure is important now! ha ;)

[jazel]

And SV has made the Clana the romantic focus. Even though they've had little success with it.
I understand Chloe is important in SV, but I really don't care for her character, as most do. I LOVED her before she knew CK's secret. She had to explain CK's sneezing thing to him. In Wither she played the part of an electrician and doctor.
I really don't hate on any character in SV, just the way the writers are doing things.

[Theshadow129x]

^ i couldnt agree with you more

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by jazel
And SV has made the Clana the romantic focus. Even though they've had little success with it.
I understand Chloe is important in SV, but I really don't care for her character, as most do. I LOVED her before she knew CK's secret. She had to explain CK's sneezing thing to him. In Wither she played the part of an electrician and doctor.
I really don't hate on any character in SV, just the way the writers are doing things.
and thats fine ur opinion of the writers,but u cant deny her importance on this show.U urself admit to not likin the character ok,but thats not the point of the thread.

2 be fair she is important on sv even if 1 doesnt like the way the character is written.

And she didnt explain anythin 2 him,if so its no diff than JK in the past.Clark has always had to find sum type of control on his powers.As for wither she didnt kno anythin,she said her professor might have a clue.

So while I agree the writin is screwed at times,I do think ur bein alil biased.But I maybe wrong :\

[operadiva]

jazel....So i don't get it ?..You hate Chloe because she knows Clark's secret...So do you hate Lana now that she knows his secret too?
If you say no...about Lana knowing...then i am curious why Lana knowing doesn't bother you...
I don't think that Chloe knowing has been so terrible..I mean she has been the only one to be there.. to help Clark whenever he needs help..or a helping hand...

[adromidon]

Actually though if you stop and think what is to keep DC from writting her into the mythos for future superman story lines? They allready said they like the charecter and are considering adding her to upcoming comic releases as a charecter.

[DestinyAw8s]

Originally posted by operadiva
I don't think that Chloe knowing has been so terrible..I mean she has been the only one to be there.. to help Clark whenever he needs help..or a helping hand...

I can not speak for anyone else, but from what I've read here and on other posts, people have the biggest problem with this point, in particular. I tend to agree. It's not that I find any fault with her helping him, it's just that the "smarts" of both of them are inconsistant, at best. In many cases, Clark comes off as a big puddlehead around her and just can't seem to figure out the most obvious things for himself. This leaves me somewhat lukewarm about their whole dynamic.

For example (and this is just one of several): In Justice, when Chloe is ticking off the inventory sent to the Ridge facility, she mentions a massive amount of lead shielding. I don't know about anyone else, but this immediately sent up a "red flag" to me.

Massive amount of "lead" shielding = Massive amount of Kryptonite.

I caught this right off the bat, but did either of our "smart" people even give this a passing thought? Nope. And Clark, who knows that kryptonite is the only thing in existence that can actually kill him, and that this deadly substance is only containable by encasing it in lead, should have an anathema for the merest mention of the word "lead". It should bring up all kinds of nightmarish scenerios of green death, even if all it actually contains is a fluffy bunny. The "awareness" of the possibilities needs to make him "think", even for just a second. But does he pause to consider this? Nope. Off he goes to the rescue. Then there's the monster "lead" door. Does he hesitate to jerk it off it's hinges? Not really. So, in he charges like a bull in a china shop, only to find himself in a world of hurt. He's gonna die now if he doesn't get rescued soon.

But not to worry, in comes Chole to save the day, finally connecting the dots . . . eons later (very clever girl).

Lead vault + LuthorCorp = Mondo Kryptonite

What a surprise. Thank God the JLA were there to help them both out.

So, was Chloe important in this episode? Certainly. To help as Watchtower. How about for Clark? Yep, she figured it out, but only because he couldn't seem to use his own common sense (or what should have been some major alarm bells), in the first place. Stunning that he did not get even an inkling that there might be just a little bit of danger in connection with all that ton of lead being trucked into a LuthorCorp facility.

Come on, Clark. You can do better than that. How will you live to save another day if you continue to push your common sense, intuition, initiative (or whatever) onto the back burner? And how will you ever be Superman if you can't "think" inside the box, much less outside?

Don't get me wrong on this. I don't blame AM/Chloe or TW/Clark for any inconsistancies. I blame the writers. The most consistant writing they seem to be able to do with a lot of their scenes together (IMO) is to showcase Clark Kent's astonishing ability to so ineptly use his "superior" brain.

[adromidon]

Yes but look at him toward the end of Season 6 and the begining of Season 7 they tend to make him seem much more inteligent. Granted he still depends on Chloe but he does not use her expert skills as much as he did at the begining of Season 6 they are slowly makeing him become smarter and makeing Chloe reject helping him more because she feel the same way that he needs to learn how to do things for himself.

[litew8]

^
True. Remember the Superman movie (I think #1)? Superman was pretty dumb in that one. He fell for Lex Luthor's trap fairly easily. I mean, he thought Lex Luthor was some putz, then Lex crippled him with green-K without even trying. Heck, if I remember correctly, Superman litterally walked right up to Lex and POW, Lex opened a box of green-K on him. Then put a GIGANTIC chain around Superman with green-K attached and tossed him into a swimming pool to drown. THAT was pretty dumb of Superman. So, I guess all I'm saying - it's okay that Clark Kent (Superman) is kind-of dumb still. At least his better half (crime fighting half) is none other than the great ALLISON MACK (aka Chloe)! :D

[adromidon]

yeah and as mentioned in several other threads there is talk of DC weaving her into the mythos of future superman comics