MM vs. Kara, who will win?

[Alexander III]

MM and Kara were about to drop their gloves and FIGHT!

Clark! Don't just stand there! Be the referee for the fight!

I'm putting my bets on MM.

GOOOOOOO MM!! Throw your oreo cookies at Kara! YAY!

Say something u guys!

[Honey45]

MM fo sho.

He always saves Clark's ass.

[Twitch]

Gonna have to go with MM on this one.

[noblue4u]

Oreo cookie throwing stars. HELL YES.

Somehow, though, I think Kara would win. Unless they stay true to the comic book version of MM, then I'd say his powers and experience would win in the end.

[Alexander III]

I say Kara should flash her boobies to MM during the fight, who knows! MM might nose bleed to death after seeing her shirtless body.


Originally posted by Alexander III
I say Kara should flash her boobies to MM during the fight, who knows! MM might nose bleed to death after seeing her shirtless body.

Oh yea, oreo cookies throwing stars! OH NO, he misses!

[SOnMyChest]

Who are you going to believe Clark....Family, or this... this Martian....MANHUNTER! Loved that line!

[ron75upc]

if she could hit him with heat vision he loses! he does not have kryptonite beams to hit her with, kryptonians have that power which is what makes them more powerful!!!

[Guidron]

Just from the stance of pure battle experience I have to give this one to MM. He's had years and years of battle experience if he was helping out Jor-El. Kara is still young and getting a handle on her powers.

[SilverEye]

MM ftw :)

[Zeburial]

Go go Kara!

[jessica_94]

i think kara is going to win because she has the same powers like clark expect she can fly

[superchloe]

but mm's weakness is fire, so huge heat vision thing and he's dead

[Dodge006]

Originally posted by ron75upc
if she could hit him with heat vision he loses! he does not have kryptonite beams to hit her with, kryptonians have that power which is what makes them more powerful!!!

If she tried he'd just phase out and it'll just pass through him. Not to mention that he could just get into her mind and make her take off all her clothes. GO MM!!!

[kp1984]

MM can control people

[Mello Penelo]

As a preface, I don't believe Zor-El is a bad guy. He just didn't get along with Jor-El and had a lot of differences with his brother.

That said, I think J'onn J'onzz unilaterally agreed with Jor-El without even considering Zor-El's side.

Jor-El said Zor-El is bad, J'onn went along with it, so he thinks Kara is bad.

Kara thinks Jor-El is bad because she unilaterally agrees with her father.

In the end, neither side really did anything wrong and Kara and J'onn both are going to feel like idiots and realize there was no reason why they couldn't be friends.

[Jsmallville]

Kara would win with Heat vision. Then she would snap his neck like tooth pick.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Jsmallville
Kara would win with Heat vision. Then she would snap his neck like tooth pick.

He's made of Martian dirt. He's got no neck to snap.

[Coyote]

Kara, because on CW shows the best looking people always win.

[muffinpeddler]

MM, because he's a telepath. He'll know what she's about to do. (Although Kara IS really impulsive, so she might not even think it.) Still, gotta go with MM. Although I think Zor-El, if he was a traitor, certainly didn't spin it that way to Kara, so she thinks her dad was fine.

[DarkChilde]

Oreo's & Kryptonite says MM wins.

[Baron Karza]

Power comparison:

Manhunter's powers- super strength, flight, invisibility, super speed, phase shifting, shape shifting, telepathy.
Weaknesses- fire (either a phobia or a kryptonite-like effect, I still don't know).

Supergirl' powers (that she'd most likely employ)- super strength, flight, invulnerability, super speed, heat vision, super breath, super senses.
Weakness- kryptonite.

Honestly, the way I see it, M&M can become intangible so she can't touch him, invisible so she can't see him, attack her telepathically, or even turn into a bug and fly up her nose and kick her ass from the inside.

But what kind of a man- even a martian man- would hit a lady?

[Sub Snake]

I voted Manhunter, sure if Kara was well trained and a tuned with her "new" powers. But shes not.

OH and MM + KRYPTONITE = Kara loss.

[adromidon]

Originally posted by Baron Karza
Power comparison:

Manhunter's powers- super strength, flight, invisibility, super speed, phase shifting, shape shifting, telepathy.
Weaknesses- fire (either a phobia or a kryptonite-like effect, I still don't know).

Supergirl' powers (that she'd most likely employ)- super strength, flight, invulnerability, super speed, heat vision, super breath, super senses.
Weakness- kryptonite.

Honestly, the way I see it, M&M can become intangible so she can't touch him, invisible so she can't see him, attack her telepathically, or even turn into a bug and fly up her nose and kick her ass from the inside.

But what kind of a man- even a martian man- would hit a lady?

In the comics Martian Manhunter can increase his molecular density and become just as invulnerable as a kryptonian but he has to focus to do that so it is not something that is just there like a kryptonian which is why in Phantom he got his guts ripped out

[Baron Karza]

Well, my point being that just one of his abilities- intangibility- negates most of her powers.

[adromidon]

yeah and they never mention it but what if he can imprision people in between plains like grab someone and phase out drop them then phase back in so they were left where ever he goes when he phases out

[Superbeard]

MM is the Swiss Army Knife of superheroes. Physcial powers aside, where he'd still hold his own against a Kryptonian, his mental powers could mess up Kara's head before she could even blink.

[adromidon]

I am still not clear why MM and Jor-El hate Kara Zor-El I can understand but why Kara?

[tippership commander]

well, it looks, from a immediate point of view, that Kara would win...but once one thinks about what MM can do, Kara is in trouble...

although, as someone said, this fight prob isn't a wanted, or favored one, i do think SMallville needs another superfight soon...although i don't recommend it be this one...

or worse yet...Clark vs Kara....(even if she can fly, Clark willwin)

if it turns up Clark vs MM....oh man.......


....Clark will need to pull out all the stops to do it...because MM can do one or two things to really mess with him....other than his mental abilities...( which Clark should be able to half throw off, but prob not at this stage)

so, i don't support THAT paticular superfight, but if so, and it turns up Kara vs MM...lets hope Clark can step in
oh, i know, a 3 way!!that would be fun... but, it'd mess up the story , kinda...and, doesn;t roll..
for MM vs Kara, MM.....KAra might only get the jump on him.....lets not forget, he can fly too...but...he has the advantage

[adromidon]

Clark has far more strength then Kara I would imagine just because of 2 reasons

1) he has been exposed to the sunlight longer

2) at the risk of sounding sexist (which i am not) Men are generaly stronger then women.

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by adromidon
Clark has far more strength then Kara I would imagine just because of 2 reasons

1) he has been exposed to the sunlight longer

2) at the risk of sounding sexist (which i am not) Men are generaly stronger then women.

Oh man u're sexist!! Just kidding, it's true that men are physically stronger than women.

[ginnyfan]

I think Kara will find out some truths about her father that she didn't know. So MM will win but it won't be a fight.

[adromidon]

yeah I am really curious what is going to happen

[kp1984]

Men are usaully stronger, no argument here but Kara can get closer to the sun then Clark could because she can fly. If she fly really close to the sun and came back to earth to fight Clark then he's in for a big fight but Kara seem to be an air head so i doubt she'll do that. Two kryptotains fighting could last awhile either way. As for martianmanhunter he's probably not even a man. I men he dose shapship so he could look like any guy or girl.

[adromidon]

lol good point they do say that he never reveals his true form to anyone he will show them a mix between his martian form and human form but something about a martians true form is sacred and they do not share it

[Sweetie]

Martian Manhunter no contest

[jazzylg]

I voted Kara,because of the kryptonian factor. But MM could win by experience alone, given all of his many abilities.

[Baron Karza]

Well, if Kara took off all her clothes then she could absorb the maximum amount of sunlight and boost her ratings.

Uhh... POWERS! Boost her POWERS.

[JorEl23]

Kara would wipe the floor with MM...sorry guys, look in the comics...;)

[adromidon]

lol

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Offtopic: Sheesh, how PC can you get to apologise for being sexist just to say men are physically strnger than women.

But yes, MM would OWN Kara.

[adromidon]

lol I just did not want to piss any women off

[JorEl23]

HERE is an accurate asessment of both heroes' abilities in a widely popular RPG. As you can see, outside of the telepathic powers, Kara pretty much dominates John...and under more intense yellow sun she pretty much ANNIHILATES him! Check it out for yourself:

SUPERGIRL
Kara Zor-El

Fighting Excellent
Agility Amazing
Strength Unearthly
Endurance Unearthly
Reason Excellent
Intuition Remarkable
Psyche Remarkable

Health 270
Karma 80
Resources Poor
Popularity 10



Powers

Class 3000 Solar Absorption and Storage that provides Supergirl with mass amounts of energy that support all her other powers and abilities. She may direct this stored energy to enhance the following abilities:
Kryptonian Physiology: Exposure to a Yellow sun alters a Kryptonian to allow great physical abilities that provide Supergirl with the Agility, Strength, and Endurance Ranks listed under statistics and includes the following powers.
Invulnerabilities: Supergirl has Class 1000 resistance to Heat, Cold, Disease, Corrosives, Toxins and Radiation. Her body's cells protect her internally as well so even her insides wouldn't be melted by drinking a vial of acid.
True Invulnerability: Supergirl's dense Kryptonian body provides her with Unearthly protection from physical and Energy attacks.
True Flight: Supergirl is able to defy gravity and fly at Unearthly airspeeds in atmosphere whilst at Class 3000 speed in space.
Heat Emmision-Eyes: Supergirl can emit her body's stores of solar radiation through his eyes causing Unearthly Heat damage with a 10 area range.
Hyper Speed: Supergirl is fast. She possesses hyperspeed at Amazing rank. She:
May substitute this power rank for Fighting for multiple attacks and evading.
May substitute this power rank for Agility for dodging and catching projectiles.
May substitute this power rank for Intuition for initiative.
Recovery: Supergirl's body continues absorbing solar radiation even after death. This energy may eventually return her to life making it virtually impossible to kill her.
Supergirl needs an Earth like atmosphere to breath in. Her Endurance enables her to last for extended period holding her breath, but in space she will eventually need a space suit. Her greater constitution provides little need for sleep, however eventually she will tire and require rest.
Superhuman Senses: Supergirl heightened senses as below:
Enhanced Hearing: Unearthly
Microscopic Vision: Amazing
Telescopic Vision: Good
Penetration Vision-Xrays: Unearthly


Limitation

Supergirl is vulnerable to Krytonite an irradiated ore from his home planet of Krypton. He is powered by a particular wavelength of light which happens to be rather abundant in our sun. Kryptonite either destroys or interrupts this because it's radiation is in a band which is similar to sunlight, but causes a different process to occur. In other words, the kryptonite radiation "chases out" the sunlight. There are different spectrums of Kryptonite and its effects on Supergirl are as follows:
Green Kryptonite: causes her body's cells to deteriorate, similar to radiation poisoning in a human being. Exposure to Green Kryptonite causes Supergirl to lose all his powers at -1CS per round. She also loses 1 rank of Strength and Endurance (with its loss of Health) per round until death occurs at Shift-0 Endurance. Removal of the Green Kryptonite enables Supergirl's body to regain lost ranks at a rate of one per round.
Supergirl likely has the same vulnerability to magic attacks as Superman. Magical attacks directly effect Supergirl ignoring any resistances or invulnerabilities. Further more any magical effect is increased +1CS in duration against Supergirl.
Supergirl's powers are based on solar radiation from Earth's yellow sun. Should she be deprived of this radiation for an extended period she will loose all her powers


MARTIAN MANHUNTER
J'onn J'onnz

Fighting Incredible
Agility Excellent
Strength Monstrous
Endurance Monstrous
Reason Excellent
Intuition Remarkable
Psyche Incredible

Health 210
Karma 120
Resources Typical
Popularity 10



Powers

Astral Projection: Martian Manhunter can enter the astral plane with Monstrous ability.
True Invulnerability: Martian Manhunter's super-tough hide provides Incredible protection against physical and energy damage.
True Flight: Martian Manhunter can attain Shift-X airspeed.
Shapechange: Martian Manhunter can change into the form of other beings, creatures or even inanimate objects with Monstrous ability.

He has developed Amazing Elongation ability as a power stunt.
Phasing: Manhunter has Unearthly rank phasing abilities. This power does not enable J'onn to pass through energy such as force fields.
Invisibility: Martian Manhunter can turn himself invisible with Typical ability.
Hyper Breath: J'onn's Martian breath is rated at Incredible rank.
Mental Probe: Martian Manhunter can probe the thoughts of others with Amazing ability.
Telepathy: In addition to reading a target's surface thoughts, Martian Manhunter can also telepathically link a group of people together. While linked, they do not share Karma Pools, nor do they have Martian Manhunter's Intuition. This power is rated at Amazing level. Manhunter can project Mental bolts of Incredible intensity.
Hyper Speed: J'onn possesses hyperspeed at Excellent rank.
Superhuman Senses: heightened senses as below:
Telescopic Vision: Typical
Penetration Vision: Remarkable
Heat Vision: Amazing rank heat or force energy.


Limitation

Fire: J'onn possesses a psychological fear of fire. As such fire and heat based attacks ignore his natural resistances. In addition if he is in the same area as a Good or greater intensity flames, Martian Manhunter loses all his powers and all of his Ability scores drop to Typical. If the intensity is greater than Remarkable, they will affect him from up to 1 area away

[Dodge006]

Originally posted by Coyote
Kara, because on CW shows the best looking people always win.

Uh, Alicia is by far the best looking person EVER on this show, and I don't think she won S***!

[adromidon]

lol

[tippership commander]

as long as it doesn't become a Kara vs Clark fight....
If that happens, tonight, hahaha...
well, 30 mins left till i can see...

I personally think Kara only appears to be more skilled at fighting...
MM will have an advantage...
technically, it should be whoever used superspeed to their advantage....
and MM is better at it , i think( in smallville)

I asked this before(off the sub) but no one answers....
Why is Kara's spech so forced( that's what happens when you touch my STUFF, or"FINE" (when pissed at CLark due to the dress-up issue) ...

Men stronger than women...don't forget, we're talking about ppl with superstrength, so if a boy with superstrength means they have more than a girl with superstrength...
That wont work.

Kara as a fighter...
it well has a good chance of CLark fighting KAra..Clark wil win, since he's better at all the powers..
and about hte supposed trump card Kara has...flying.....
I am pretty sure, using MAX super speed( Real superspeed, Clark is faster than he thinks) he coudl jump to nearly and height Kara flies..
I do know he's faster...for superman is the fastest hero..( Even faster than Bart, but i wont get into that...)' so, he can catch Kara for sure...
If she goes so far as to try to heat beam him....he should be able to slow down timw fast enough for a counter-beam attack..
He is better at superhearing, he has had more exp fighting flying ppl....she still doesn't know about his title(given by chloe) as a walking air cannon...hahaha, can't wait to see that ...

If CLark doesn't mess around( and lately, he's been at the TOP of his game,{ stopping Kara's punch cold, stopping her from flying!!!!} no matter what she does...he'ss ebe able to do whatever he needs

Maybe she'll get her crystal, he'll get another from the FOS, and they can have some sort of crystal war..

MM shouldn't be immature enough to fight her..he's a good guy, the Martian Manhunter is

[adromidon]

we will see what happens the trailer for Lara does show her fighting Clark though well sort of

[Mr. T]

It would be pretty close. You have the experience and knowledge of Martian Manhunter and the youth and energy fo Kara. There are some powers that John has that Kara doesn't, for example: he can turn invisible, shape shift, walk through walls, etc. Also, Kara has powers that John doesn't have, example: she has super speed, heat vision, x-ray vision, super breath, etc. I would probably have to go with Kara ultimately in the end.