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warriorrenegade
10-15-2007, 08:43 PM
Is anyone buying the Claire/West relationship? I'm not...to me it's just completely unrealistic. After all that characters been through, for her to be manipulated in this way is just OOC. I hope the writers have something up their sleeves and theres a turn in the works...then hopefully this dreadful ship is sunk.

Kal26
10-15-2007, 08:45 PM
I like the kid, but he does seem a bit shady, and it's funny, he talks just like her dad when he's manipulating someone. Seems like a company man to me, or a company young man. I'm sure I'm wrong on that though. It just seems like he's too interested in finding out about claire's past.

Mello Penelo
10-15-2007, 08:45 PM
I hate Claire and West more than Clark and Lana.

pycer
10-15-2007, 08:49 PM
Say NO to Cest? Cwest? Waire?...anyway, no I don't like this direction at all. I don't like West at all. Claire, however, is acting much like a typical teenage girl here, but after the life shes led the past year she should be far from typical. I'm a little bothered by the reverting thing here, Claire and HRG came a long way last season and there was real trust present, in the first few episodes here bam, all that trust and closeness is gone.

Tasha
10-15-2007, 08:49 PM
I don't trust him either. Him creeping around her window should have been a red flag for Claire. She should know better, she knows there are other people like her, but that doesn't make them trustworthy. Knowing what Sylar did should've kept her on her toes.

pycer
10-15-2007, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Tasha
Knowing what Sylar did should've kept her on her toes.

assuming she didnt cut them off...

;)

Ireallylikethisshow
10-15-2007, 08:52 PM
Yeah, Wes is too good to be true but... I've never really been that fond of Claire. She's a bit of a mary sue as well. I think that either Wes is a company man- or they are just trying to get ppl very far away from Peter/Claire because it's slightly incestous and illegal.

Mello Penelo
10-15-2007, 09:20 PM
Ireallylikethisshow, not to nitpick, but his name is West, not Wes. ;)

XSE_Greystone
10-16-2007, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by pycer
Say NO to Cest? Cwest? Waire?...anyway, no I don't like this direction at all. I don't like West at all. Claire, however, is acting much like a typical teenage girl here, but after the life shes led the past year she should be far from typical. I'm a little bothered by the reverting thing here, Claire and HRG came a long way last season and there was real trust present, in the first few episodes here bam, all that trust and closeness is gone.

I really agree with you there Pycer...cause i mean we've seen them go through ALL this stuff and finally start trusting each other and now some kid comes along and messes all that up. You'd think Claire would have finally started doing what her dad told her.

But she wants to be normal and doesn't know about the painting and just prolly thinks Bennet is just being over protective cause it's just a boy.

But i really think this could all be settled if Noah wouldn't be such a B and actually show Claire the picture in order to help back up his paranoia.

ginnyfan
10-16-2007, 12:17 AM
The kisses won me over. The way he closes his eyes... it was so sweet. Though when he was telling her to jump that was super creepy. I don't know... but I'm shipping them. :wub:

JBW157
10-16-2007, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I hate Claire and West more than Clark and Lana.

i second that! west is a nosy douche, and claire is too ignorant to see that through his arrogant charm and his romantic flying power. and didn't she ever learn that lying from your dad can screw up your life?

ginnyfan
10-16-2007, 12:22 AM
^For real? LOL!!!

I completely disagree. Claire/West has a pulse.

MidgardDragon
10-16-2007, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Is anyone buying the Claire/West relationship? I'm not...to me it's just completely unrealistic. After all that characters been through, for her to be manipulated in this way is just OOC. I hope the writers have something up their sleeves and theres a turn in the works...then hopefully this dreadful ship is sunk.

I think West is just a creepy guy. I don't think he's manipulating her at all, unless he happened to see HRG that first day. And if he were manipulating her because of that, why tell her about his experience? Nah, I think he's just a creepy guy who's fallen for Claire. It won't turn out well for them, but I buy it easily.

Mello Penelo
10-16-2007, 12:33 AM
Well, he's got to be the shadowy figure standing in front of Claire in the painting of Mr. Bennett dead. West is probably pissed about the " || " marks on his neck and will kill him, unless everyone can do something about it.

hansioux
10-16-2007, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I hate Claire and West more than Clark and Lana.

amen

ShelbyKent
10-16-2007, 10:24 AM
I liked West last episode, but today he just creeped me out, especially when he was telling her to jump and encouraged her to lie to her parents :( But the flying still takes my breath away :).


So what are we calling this couple? Clest? Waire? Cwest? Weslaire? WesClaire? :confused:

Mello Penelo
10-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Probably Cest. Because it sounds gross like incest.

Sweetie
10-16-2007, 11:08 AM
No,I didn't trusted from the start and nothing in this episode prouved that I was wrong.Something is clearely wrong with this guy.My guess is he's there to distract Claire.I'm pretty that he works for the bad guy and they want to kill Noah.I don't think it's a coincidence that he put the weird tattoo on his neck.

Ginx
10-16-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Is anyone buying the Claire/West relationship? I'm not...to me it's just completely unrealistic. After all that characters been through, for her to be manipulated in this way is just OOC. I hope the writers have something up their sleeves and theres a turn in the works...then hopefully this dreadful ship is sunk.

I also find it a bit odd that they kissed so quickly. But what I really found hard to believe is that Claire is so trusting with all that has happened to her - I mean sheesh! She should be smarter than the average girl now in terms of watching her back.

And on top of that - I mean, she's telling some seriously bad awful lies. Not that I support the lies but if you're gonna lie at least show daddy some respect because he's the master liar - and you're back in the doghouse you just don't know it yet.

I love HRG - I hope that the painting is wrong - just because it's there doesn't mean it will 100% happen - they can still change it. Kill the Cheerleader Save HRG...... that's my tagline lol......

West's character - I'm still on the ropes about. I mean I didn't like him right off the bat but he slowly got a little better but then slipped back again. I do understand what it's like to 'find someone like you' and have them be a hot girl - but still can't shake the feeling that he knows HRG is her daddy on some level and is using her to get to him........

Lex'sLover
10-16-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Is anyone buying the Claire/West relationship? I'm not...to me it's just completely unrealistic. After all that characters been through, for her to be manipulated in this way is just OOC. I hope the writers have something up their sleeves and theres a turn in the works...then hopefully this dreadful ship is sunk.

I COMPLETELY agree with you. From the moment it happened, i thought it just didnt make any sense. I really hope there is a change too, cause im not sure i like this "Relationship"

STFanatic
10-16-2007, 01:15 PM
I like West.
IMO, both he and Claire are "needy" as in they both are what they are referring to as "Freaks", they need one another to try to grab a little normality.
I am not one for "ships" though, friends would be enough for me.
And I like the way he flies, on the Commentary Kring said his flights are way different than Nathan's, Nathan is more like all out "Zoom" while West floats and flies.

Mello Penelo
10-16-2007, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
but still can't shake the feeling that he knows HRG is her daddy on some level and is using her to get to him........

I think he's the hoodie guy who killed Kaito Nakamura.

InLove_with_Chloe
10-16-2007, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Is anyone buying the Claire/West relationship? I'm not...to me it's just completely unrealistic. After all that characters been through, for her to be manipulated in this way is just OOC. I hope the writers have something up their sleeves and theres a turn in the works...then hopefully this dreadful ship is sunk.
It's true that she went through a lot last season.....maybe too much, I dunno. Any relationship would seem weird now. But who could she trust if not someone who is like her?

KryptonzGirl
10-16-2007, 04:53 PM
There is..just something wrong with their whole relationship. I'm not sure what, but it's just going to end badly if you ask me.

InLove_with_Chloe
10-16-2007, 04:55 PM
I think we can be sure of that.....
:lol:

Sweetie
10-16-2007, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by KryptonzGirl
There is..just something wrong with their whole relationship. I'm not sure what, but it's just going to end badly if you ask me.

Well,not necessarelly!Hopefully,somebody will kill that spooky flying young man before anything bad happen;)

KryptonzGirl
10-16-2007, 05:10 PM
Agreed. :D

STFanatic
10-16-2007, 05:11 PM
Maybe he will fly to Smallville and teach Clark to fly, and Kara to slow down. ;)

JBW157
10-17-2007, 12:45 AM
i think west might have an alternate motive. but either way, we all know that HRG will die, and claire and (most likely) he will be there kissing.

unless sylar goes to return her car, shoots HRG in the face, and then decides to rape claire.

Mello Penelo
10-17-2007, 02:23 AM
I don't think HRG will die. Just because the painting is of him dying doesn't mean he will. Remember, Isaac painted Claire dying in Texas. And New York City getting blown up. Those didn't happen.

hansioux
10-17-2007, 03:18 AM
After he convinced Claire to jump off the sign, which would have ruined her dress, and prompted uncomfortalbe questions like "so... that was some rough librarians eh?", West then said this:

"I know you can regenerate, but I'd neverwant to see you hurt."

I mean this West guy doesn't talk like a geek. This is like master player talk to me.

ShelbyKent
10-17-2007, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by hansioux

This is like master player talk to me. Yes I got that feeling, too :( He was too smooth for comfort in this eppie.

I'm still hoping that he won't be a villain in the end :\

InLove_with_Chloe
10-17-2007, 04:26 AM
C'mon, he was just being sweet......
:)
They want us to believe that Claire actually falls for the guy, after everything she went through last year. Many other people would be scarred for life, I believe.....

Mello Penelo
10-17-2007, 11:09 AM
It's obvious he wants revenge on HRG.

InLove_with_Chloe
10-17-2007, 11:11 AM
But that's cool, no?
:D

Sweetie
10-17-2007, 12:28 PM
I just got idea completly different that I had before...West works for the bad guy,Matt's father.He is there to convaince Claire to work for him.Remember Claire wanted to do stuff with her powers,she wanted to make a difference.Mrs.Petrelli forbided her because she was too young but she said that may be later,she could work for her.Well,I think West is going to really fall in love with Claire,he will protect her.Then they will escape together to be free from every of them.Guess who will have to find them and bring them back safely?

Son of Kal-El20
10-17-2007, 01:43 PM
I like that idea. West is working for the villain and was originally supposed to pretend to be in love with Claire and convince her to join them, but instead he really falls in love with her.


Also, I noticed that people just love to follow Claire. First West follows her and now her dad follows her.

Kal26
10-17-2007, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Well, he's got to be the shadowy figure standing in front of Claire in the painting of Mr. Bennett dead. West is probably pissed about the " || " marks on his neck and will kill him, unless everyone can do something about it.

Agreed, claire needs to clear things up between him and her dad, or I'm afraid things are going to get ugly.

KryptonzGirl
10-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Given that Claire is once again connect to Sylar again with the whole stolen car incident..they may once again meet up. And with Sylars new illusion power that he can't use yet...who knows? It may not really be West? This all will probally occur towards the end of the season..

one of the 12
10-18-2007, 01:16 PM
Well...

I think that West is just someone the writers came up with to recreate the tension between Claire and Noah we had last season. Someone that will keep putting her in situations where she almost reveals her powers or gets caught doing something she shouldn't by her dad. He's the bad influence person that all our parents didn't want us to hang around with. I am pretty sure that the two, Noah and HRG (edit, I meant West and HRG) ,are going to meet, and it isn't going to go well, Claire blames him for keeping her from having a normal life etc., but I doubt that West is who kills Noah in the painting.

His only purpose is to create drama... that's his other power.

STFanatic
10-18-2007, 02:08 PM
I will withhold judgment on West for a while, I like the way he flies :p

pycer
10-18-2007, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by one of the 12
Well...

. I am pretty sure that the two, Noah and HRG are going to meet, and it isn't going to go well, Claire blames him for keeping her from having a normal life etc., but I doubt that West is who kills Noah in the painting.



Noah and HRG have already met, as they are the same person...:confused:

STFanatic
10-18-2007, 02:13 PM
I knew what 1 0f the 12 meant, and substuted the name "Noah"for "West", I actually didn't catch that till you mentoned it :)

one of the 12
10-18-2007, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by STFanatic
I knew what 1 0f the 12 meant, and substuted the name "Noah"for "West", I actually didn't catch that till you mentoned it :)

Your right, I didn't catch it either...

Edited to correct...

STFanatic
10-18-2007, 07:06 PM
Hey, if it weren't for Spell check no one would be able to read my posts :lol:

migo
10-30-2007, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I don't think HRG will die. Just because the painting is of him dying doesn't mean he will. Remember, Isaac painted Claire dying in Texas. And New York City getting blown up. Those didn't happen.

I'm pretty sure it was the other cheerleader who died in that painting.


Originally posted by KryptonzGirl
Given that Claire is once again connect to Sylar again with the whole stolen car incident..they may once again meet up. And with Sylars new illusion power that he can't use yet...who knows? It may not really be West? This all will probally occur towards the end of the season..

How is Sylar going to steal Claire's car?

STFanatic
10-30-2007, 06:13 AM
The car Sylar & the Wonder Twins are now driving is Claire's stolen car.