View Full Version : HE is the nightmare man!!!
Patient101
10-15-2007, 07:41 PM
MATTS DAD is the BIG BAD!!!
Superman's Princess
10-15-2007, 07:43 PM
I suspected that as soon as Matt pointed him out in the picture.
Tasha
10-15-2007, 07:45 PM
I looked down so I didn't get to see him. Good thing I'm taping, I'll have to rewind and look at that.
erikamichelle614
10-15-2007, 08:06 PM
i couldn't believe that happened.. i should have expected it, but i was taken completely by surprise.
Ms. Mack
10-15-2007, 08:08 PM
I don't know what is power is, but now Molly's locked in her own mind.
I've never been a big fan of Parkman and I'm a little pissed about him forcing her to do it, but he's gonna be really distraught if they can't pull Molly out.
I'm thinking he has the power of mind control, like an evil Professor X. It explains why a short skinny guy killed Kaito (since his father is obviously not short and skinny), why Angela attacked herself, and how he can enter Molly's dreams and see her when she tries to find him.
^^yeah that does make sense. So he's like Professor X when he was controlled by the Skrulls or when he was in another one of his crazy moods lol......
Ubber telepath/mind control - would be cool. I just want to see the crazy eyes in the dark with the cheshire cat grin - creepy creepy..... ;)
Mini Wolfsbane
10-16-2007, 12:09 AM
Eh, I'm a bit disappointed.
Some old guy with one foot in the grave is our really
evil dude? *yawn*
I guess the power sounds cool, and he has come off as
scary and unexpected, but why can't he be younger or
something?
ginnyfan
10-16-2007, 12:13 AM
Very exciting reveal. I think it's fitting that Matt's dad has a power that deals with the mind.
Jredbird
10-16-2007, 12:15 AM
That Psychic ability for Matts dad would make since make Ms petrelli scratch her self and the person who jwho pushed hero's dad off the roof could be someone that has the same power as Claire and kensie makes alot of sense
MidgardDragon
10-16-2007, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Mini Wolfsbane
Eh, I'm a bit disappointed.
Some old guy with one foot in the grave is our really
evil dude? *yawn*
I guess the power sounds cool, and he has come off as
scary and unexpected, but why can't he be younger or
something?
You're discounting him because he's old. Not a good idea. I know it's popular to think the only cool characters are young and suave, but I think this guy could turn out to be a really really good villain, especially given that he doesn't really have to leave his apartment to do anything too terrible.
XSE_Greystone
10-16-2007, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Ginx
^^yeah that does make sense. So he's like Professor X when he was controlled by the Skrulls or when he was in another one of his crazy moods lol......
Don't think the Professor was ever controlled by Skrulls or at least never to my knowledge. Cassandra Nova and others i can't think of off the top of my head but dont know bout Skrulls.
Anyways...yeah i too thought i should have seen that coming since the man who can sense Molly looking at him prolly has some kind of psychic ability and he ends up being the father of the only psychic person we've seen so far.
Mini Wolfsbane
10-16-2007, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
You're discounting him because he's old. Not a good idea. I know it's popular to think the only cool characters are young and suave, but I think this guy could turn out to be a really really good villain, especially given that he doesn't really have to leave his apartment to do anything too terrible.
Cool villains leave their apartments.:p
I get what you're saying, really.
I think I'm just disappointed because I was expecting
it to be someone we already knew about, for a big
shocker.Really, my first post were my thoughts
after it was all said.
The as soon as the episode ended, aloud I said
"Good job Matt!" (In a sarcastic tone, of course.):rolleyes:
MidgardDragon
10-16-2007, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Mini Wolfsbane
Cool villains leave their apartments.:p
Being able to kill and destory without ever living your apartment > leaving your apartment.
Mello Penelo
10-16-2007, 12:42 AM
I think Parkman's dad will be bad news, but I don't think he's the person killing of the founders of The Company.
The guy in the hoodie who pushed Nakamura off the roof of the Deveaux building isn't Parkman's dad.
Mini Wolfsbane
10-16-2007, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Being able to kill and destory without ever living your apartment > leaving your apartment.
Yeah, well...well...
Ahh, I got nothin'!:(
He'll probably be a very cool villain, despite his age.
So, I should probably just shut-up and not be so judgemental.
Originally posted by Mini Wolfsbane
I think I'm just disappointed because I was expecting it to be someone we already knew about, for a big shocker.[/B]
I can understand that, but I think the fact that it was Parkman's father was a pretty big reveal in itself, even though I saw it coming because I can't stay away from spoilers.
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
The guy in the hoodie who pushed Nakamura off the roof of the Deveaux building isn't Parkman's dad.
If he has mind control like a lot of us seem to suspect, Parkman's dad wouldn't need to be there.
Mello Penelo
10-16-2007, 03:13 AM
I don't think Parkman's dad has anything to do with the man in the hoodie. I think Parkman's dad will be the next on the hit list. Regardless of the guy's abilities and criminal record, I don't think he's the one behind it.
vinslikewhoa
10-16-2007, 07:12 AM
i duno, no matter what, if parkamns dad was controlling the guy who killed nakamura or not, whoever the hooded guy was, he had powers, because he, or she i guess, who knows really...was gone when they looked down, so, never the less, it was a "hero" now, personally i dont think parkmans dad was involved either, i think it is someone else, and parkmans dad now is just an obvious choice, and u know this show, if its obvious its never right (unless u read it in a spoiler) lol
KryptonzGirl
10-16-2007, 04:50 PM
I have to ageee with Wolfsbane at this point. When I saw that Matt's old man was this new evil villian my first immediate thought was..."lame".
Perhaps there will be a new hidden twist? Maybe this guy is more badass than he is appearing right now? We'll see.
Mini Wolfsbane
10-16-2007, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by KryptonzGirl
I have to ageee with Wolfsbane at this point. When I saw that Matt's old man was this new evil villian my first immediate thought was..."lame".
Perhaps there will be a new hidden twist? Maybe this guy is more badass than he is appearing right now? We'll see.
Thanks KryptonzGirl.
(Glad someone agrees with me.)
Yeah, he's so bad, he can beat you up with his cane
without having to take out his teeth first!;)
XSE_Greystone
10-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by vinslikewhoa
i duno, no matter what, if parkamns dad was controlling the guy who killed nakamura or not, whoever the hooded guy was, he had powers, because he, or she i guess, who knows really...was gone when they looked down, so, never the less, it was a "hero" now, personally i dont think parkmans dad was involved either, i think it is someone else, and parkmans dad now is just an obvious choice, and u know this show, if its obvious its never right (unless u read it in a spoiler) lol
I kind of agree with you there vinslikewhoa. We don't know if Matt's dad really is some super strong psychic and he may be able to control others...may not. But either way the person in the hood has to have powers or he would have died. And if Matt's dad can control anyone then he wouldn't have wasted it on some hero...he could have easily just have controlled Ando and had him push him off. So the person in the hood has to have something against the 12 or maybe the company. The hooded guy may or may not be working with Matt's dad.
STFanatic
10-16-2007, 08:57 PM
Unless he can only control people with powers, or someone he knows or met.
In a way, he has met Molly on a mental basis.
XSE_Greystone
10-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Well if that was the case then yeah.
Son of Kal-El20
10-17-2007, 12:28 AM
I was very, VERY disappointed by this revelation. I really was hoping the killer dude was Kensei because that would connect the purpose of Hiro in the past. But now with this revelation, it makes the stuff in the past look kind of pointless. In fact, it makes a lot of the plotlines seem pointless.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-17-2007, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Son of Kal-El20
I was very, VERY disappointed by this revelation.
I have to agree....... Didn't everyone expect the 'Nightmare man' to be one of the characters we already know??? Like this it was kind of an WTF moment, IMO......
ShelbyKent
10-17-2007, 05:50 AM
I wasn't disappointed. I still think he's creepy :\
shadow4486
10-17-2007, 12:28 PM
Many good points made on this post...
I agree that Parkman's dad is not working by himself. The hooded person who killed Kaito was something/someone different. Who? I don't know. But it was not Daddy Parkman.
I don't know if I like the "Daddy Parkman controls others from a distance" theory. It doesn't make sense to me that he is a killer who makes you do stuff. Then why is he killing people with other heroes, when he can simply control them and make them kill themselves.
With that in mind, I think that Parkman's Dad is not a killer at all. Nothing that Molly has said suggests the "nightmare man" is a killer. Maybe he just doesn't want to be found and his power (whatever it is) allows him to scare this little girl so she can't find him. He is probably ashamed of what he has done to (pick one) heroes/his son/himself and he wants to be left alone.
I believe the killer is someone else and the symbol is just connecting them, like it is connecting everything else in this show. I'm kinda getting tired of seeing the symbol every damn place on this show. I hope it is tied to Kensai and it's meaning is revealed soon. It reminds me of the "bad wolf" phrase that kept reoccuring in the New Doctor Who. ( I can't remember which season). Just let us know already. It is kind of a dumb symbol without some meaning other than japanese for "godsend"
Anyhow...I don't read the spoilers other than the episode descriptions so I don't know if DP's situation has been revealed. But I'm he's just a misunderstood "villian".
^^When you use DP, I feel like I'm reading an adult film description:lol:
On a less vulgar note, even if Parkman's dad is the one responsible for everything, I don't think that leaves out the possibility of a lot of the stuff happening in the present having a connection with Kensei. For all we know, they could both be a part of it. Or neither could be a part of it. On this show, ANYTHING is a possibility unless there's indisputable evidence otherwise. And I really can't see them doing this Kensei storyline just for kicks, especially not a seven episode arc. He's got to have some connection to the present.
KryptonzGirl
10-18-2007, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by faz
^^When you use DP, I feel like I'm reading an adult film description:lol:
On a less vulgar note, even if Parkman's dad is the one responsible for everything, I don't think that leaves out the possibility of a lot of the stuff happening in the present having a connection with Kensei. For all we know, they could both be a part of it. Or neither could be a part of it. On this show, ANYTHING is a possibility unless there's indisputable evidence otherwise. And I really can't see them doing this Kensei storyline just for kicks, especially not a seven episode arc. He's got to have some connection to the present.
I agree with you on the Kensei thing. Thought time traveling stories are always great to watch..in the case of the Heroes show..Hiro's going back in time is extremely important.
Originally posted by shadow4486
I don't know if I like the "Daddy Parkman controls others from a distance" theory. It doesn't make sense to me that he is a killer who makes you do stuff. Then why is he killing people with other heroes, when he can simply control them and make them kill themselves.
That's definitely true as well, but if that's the case then it just helps give more credibility to the idea that he was responsible for the attempt to kill Angela Petrelli. Maybe he didn't want to have too many of these people kill themselves because they are all connected, and if he's the only one left standing, someone will start looking to him for the common denominator. This way it looks like a series of unconnected accidents.
Even if he isn't responsible for all this, I still think the mind control thing is right after what happened to Molly. How else could he trap her inside her own mind?
It also still leaves the question of why Angela Petrelli tried to mutilate herself with her fingernails if someone wasn't controlling her somehow. If I was trying to kill myself, that's DEFINITELY not the way I'd choose, which leads me to think that the person who made her do it wanted her to suffer, otherwise she could have taken a dive through the glass window or impaled herself on one of the table legs or something.
One final thought, if he can control minds, even only the minds of people with abilities and/or people that he's met, why didn't he just make Matt run in there and shoot her or something? I mean, I know Matt's his son, but it's pretty obvious the guy's moral standards aren't set all that high.
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