I'm so tired of the Chloe hating!

[chlark fan]

I love Smallville, but I will have bad memories of it when it's all over if Chloe gets treated this way until the end. So the first guy to ever be crazy about Chloe ends up falling in love with SUPERGIRL/Barbie??? It's not enough that absolutely everyone that crosses paths with Lana or Lois thinks they're the most amazing thing they've ever seen, but then Chloe gets NOONE?? Poor Chloe gets to see her cousin land her dream job and her dream man and now SUPERGIRL steals her boyfriend?? The only possible redemption to the creators is if Chloe and Clark get together for a while until she dumps HIM and then she ends up being editor of the New York Times!

[Minela]

I'm not a big Chloe fan, but even I felt bad for her today. Not because of Jimmy. Jimmy was cute. I felt bad because I tought after last episode she would get motivated to do better at her job, but she was just very discouraged. Good thing Jimmy got her back on track. The other thing I really felt bad about is that now she feels she needs to hide her meteor power.

[Vergon6]

Well you know those creators love their love triangles. The weird thing is that the Jimmy and Chloe relationship seemed to be the least dysfunctional, and now they are giving reasons for them to breakup just so Kara can have a love interest and create more Chloe angst. After all, Clark is in 'love', and seems intent on having no angst if he can help it. So they have to displace the angst somewhere in their minds.

In some of the cartoons, Jimmy and Kara liked each other, so it's not out of left field. But I guess it would suck for big Chloe fans.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Minela
The other thing I really felt bad about is that now she feels she needs to hide her meteor power.

You'd think that hiding her power would be very easy for her to do. Just don't cry while on top of a dead person and she's golden.

[Kyogre]

lana is hated 100x more
chloe is a saint in these forums

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by myankskent
You'd think that hiding her power would be very easy for her to do. Just don't cry while on top of a dead person and she's golden.

She's spent the last 6 years of her life dedicated to exposing meteor "freaks" and she's more worried about what she will BECOME than what her powers are.


Originally posted by Kyogre
lana is hated 100x more
chloe is a saint in these forums

Yeah well alot of us would rather Chloe have a good, none degrading role on Smallville than be a "saint" in this forum.

[uhhuhhim]

I love Chloe and I hope she gets revenge on everyone that has **** on her for the past couple of years!

[Alexander III]

I hate Chloe.

[Minela]

Originally posted by Kyogre
lana is hated 100x more
chloe is a saint in these forums

Yeah, but Chloe is hated by the writers and producers, Lana is a saint to them.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I hate Chloe.

That's ok :)

[elway]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I hate Chloe.

At this point I really could do without her as well. She's eatin up Lionel's screen time IMO

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I hate Chloe.

You should be thrilled with Smallville then. IMO, Chloe is the best thing about the show and everyone I know that likes Smallville thinks Chloe gets crapped on way too much.

[CountryGirl84]

The think that I hate about the direction they've gone is they're making Chloe seem like a dumb helpless blond. She used to be this intelligent go getter but suddenly she's lost her ability to think logically. Is she somehow unable to reason that a) her power was something good and positive and that b) she's never looked for any good meteor freaks before. Any good researcher knows that you only get what you look for, if all you're looking for is evil meteor freaks of course that's all you're going to find.

What she should be doing is springing back from her brush with death to have a new lease on life. What is with making her some feeble minded wimpy thing? Its crap.

[uhhuhhim]

^^^ Maybe Linda Lake needs to come back so we can see Chloe kick her ass again...Then, she'd be fierce again :)

[Minela]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
What is with making her some feeble minded wimpy thing? Its crap.

You didn't know? Now that Lana knows the secret Clark won't need to go to Chloe for advise, therefore he will magically develop a brain and solve the puzzle on his own. In order to make Clark seem more intelligent and driven, they must write Chloe like an idiot. This is AlMiles, they can't prop up a character without making another look bad. :rolleyes:

[Autumn]

Originally posted by Minela
Yeah, but Chloe is hated by the writers and producers, Lana is a saint to them.

AMEN!!!!


Originally posted by chlark fan
You should be thrilled with Smallville then.

LOL! :) Whoever hates Chloe, must love how she's being trampled on.

[ginnyfan]

I don't think the show is hating on Chloe, I think they are throwing her character a curve ball. I don't want to see her doing the same thing every year. And she just DIED! I mean... I agree that a lot of bad things seemed to be happening all at once for her, but that happens in life sometimes.

I'm most eager to see her deal with her meteor power. Once she knows where she stands on it, then she'll start to bounce back. She's dealing with a lot and it's going to take time.

Jimmy is head over heels for Chloe. Kara is beautiful, and he noticed but I'm not worried about Chimmy as long as Chloe doesn't hold his words spoken in ignorance against him and push him away. I'm hoping Chloe will be honest with him.

About the story... I totally understand why she's lost her... excitement for meteor freak stories. *sigh* ETA: We don't know if Chloe scooped the other papers or not yet. Maybe she did.

I might agree with the premise of this thread by the end of the season but right now it's exciting IMO. Chloe's had a lot of exhilarating successes in the past couple of years. It's interesting to see them taking risks with her character and giving her some setbacks. I'm liking the pace Chloe's going at. I haven't given up on her yet.

Next week looks like it will be a great Chloe episode.

ETA#2: The writers and producers would have to be stupid not to love and value Chloe. 3 episodes of hardship do not measure up against 6 years of storytelling in which the character of Chloe Sullivan has been vital (to the point that she's sometimes accused of being a plot device). I definitely disagree with that statement. LOL!

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by chlark fan
You should be thrilled with Smallville then. IMO, Chloe is the best thing about the show and everyone I know that likes Smallville thinks Chloe gets crapped on way too much.

I still hate Chloe.

[Autumn]

In my opinion, Chloe Sullivan has become one of the most crapped on characters in television history. And Al Gough and Miles Millar are to blame with their blatant chauvinism.

It honestly makes me want to stop watching. Yet I still do. Who knows why. I don't even like the show anymore.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

All the characters on this show are miserable. They have always been. I think we pity them.

[chlark fan]

Lana is boring and Lois is simply a hyper, b*tchy, less intelligent version of Chloe. It's simply embarassing the way Lana and Lois (and apparently Kara) make every man fall in love with them while Chloe only has Jimmy and now he's starting to move on to one of the apparent "HOT" girls.

[hemmy]

How does Chloe get hate from the writers...

She was a main character of Season 6

Now in S7 the story line has changed to a new focus, and Chloe has never really had a key role.

Chlark will never happen, so there isn't a lot for Chloe to do on this show.

[chlark fan]

Ummm I think it's obvious how Chloe is hated by the writers, just read the previous posts in this thread. If the writers were smart then Chlark would happen. It would be the best relationship on Smallville ever and no one can deny how they've set it up over the years. It's horrible how Lana is so dull and plain yet she's absolutely worshiped by the writers while Chloe is so dynamic and cool and she gets shafted continuously. It's truly frustrating for a big Chloe fan.

[Vergon6]

How does Lois have as much power over men as Lana? Sure she has either dated or had a fling with two superheroes, and attracted the interest of one psychopathic meteor freak, but that's about it, aside from the Wes backstory. In is in sharp contrast to the combination of men Lana has dated and the several obsessed stalker types she has attracted.

Now Chloe has had less luck than Lois I will admit that, but not Lois in reality has hadn't that much more luck. Now, if we are talking about several instances of the producers promoting Lois' sex appeal by showing her in bikinis and things like that, that's a different story.

There were some instances of good meteor freaks like the guy from Freak and the guy from Blank (at least once he realized the truth), but they were both manipulated into doing bad things. Alicia also redeemed herself somewhat before dying do to undergoing some massive psychotherapy. I am not sure why Chloe doesn't remember any of that.

[chlark fan]

How about Grant instantly thinking Lois is the Sh*t?? Not to mention him ripping on Chloe and calling her a has-been. Plus you bring up a good point about the producers flaunting Lois in a bikini or other skimpy outfit constantly...they're as in love with her as Lana!!!

[Vergon6]

Well if they were truly in love with her, they would work harder to give her better character development. They are in love with Erica Durance's body, after all sex sells. Not that it always translates into her getting all the guys like Lana.

But they are hung up on Lana in general, and the Clark and Lana relationship specifically as well.

At least Grant wasn't as scathing this time around. He felt his words had reinvigorated her journalistic spirit, not knowing Jimmy was responsible for uncovering the story. He encouraged her to go and get the story, but then of course made the underhanded comment about following in her cousin's footsteps.

[chlark fan]

Well Lois' sex appeal and Lana's supposed "beauty" still have nothing on Chloe cause she has all that and more. Grant was still an a*s to Chloe and Lois is already on assignments when Chloe's stuck in the basement after 4 years of being the editor of "The Torch" and 2 years of working the basement of "The Daily Planet".

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by chlark fan
Ummm I think it's obvious how Chloe is hated by the writers, just read the previous posts in this thread. If the writers were smart then Chlark would happen.

Wow. The writers hate Chloe because they won't make Chlark happen. I disagree. I can empathize with not having something you've set your heart on come to pass. But Chloe is one of the most beloved characters of this show. She's the glue that often holds the show together. They consciously use the character of Chloe Sullivan for this purpose OFTEN.

I'm excited about the revelations of last season... IMO it's too early to say that they are going to be bad for Chloe's character.

[Vergon6]

Originally posted by chlark fan
Well Lois' sex appeal and Lana's supposed "beauty" still have nothing on Chloe cause she has all that and more. Grant was still an a*s to Chloe and Lois is already on assignments when Chloe's stuck in the basement after 4 years of being the editor of "The Torch" and 2 years of working the basement of "The Daily Planet".
You will note I said he wasn't AS scathing. Not saying he wasn't still acting like a jerk. At the same time, he wasn't as negative, just not too positive yet.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Kyogre
lana is hated 100x more
chloe is a saint in these forums

Saint Lana is hated and for good reason. Her "storylines" (which might work if the writters were capable, but in the context of the way it has been done....it's outright stupid crap) have served to make a mockery of Clark Kent and this show. And judging from what I'm reading, it's no different tonight.....ahhhh, I guessed right.....and those idiots known as TPTB are right on track.

And Chloe........goes from Clark Kent to future lame sidekick Jimmy Olsen (I bet that moron Jimmy still thinks that Lex is working with the Egyptians).......and now is supposed to even lose the Jimster (fine upstanding catch that he is) to the Blonde Kryptonian dumbell.....yeah, that Chloe's a real sharp cookie .......and quite a loser to. You hear that Allison Mack!........YOUR CHARACTER IS PATHETIC! And all the greatest acting in the world on your part won't change that! Only Clark, Lana, and Lex are more pathetic than you're character.....and that's not saying much though.

And for those of you that are tired of the Chloe hating......I really think that you had better get used to it.......Chloe may never be as stupid or pathetic as Lana or Clark.......but it seems as though the writters want her to make a race of it! Look out Clark.....Chloe's passing you up (even then she's still more of a Super hero than you'll ever be Clark!).......but fortunately, she'll never catch the Pink Princess/Saint in this pathetic loser catergory.



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Rocky & Bullwinkle
starring:
Clark Kent as Bullwinkle
Chloe Sullivan as Rocky
Lana Lang as Natasha
Lex Luthor as Boris

These are the roles that this group of Smallville Characters were really born to play!

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Wow. The writers hate Chloe because they won't make Chlark happen. I disagree. I can empathize with not having something you've set your heart on come to pass. But Chloe is one of the most beloved characters of this show. She's the glue that often holds the show together. They consciously use the character of Chloe Sullivan for this purpose OFTEN.

I'm excited about the revelations of last season... IMO it's too early to say that they are going to be bad for Chloe's character.

Well, I hope you're right about revelations this season, i'm really trying to be hopeful. But not making Chlark happen is one of the many many reasons they are unfair to Chloe. She has been in love with Clark since season one and even with several "almost" romances they have never gotten the chance at a real relationship. Her redemption can only ever be truly realized if her and Clark have their moment in time to sort things out for good. Chloe needs her moment to shine where she gets everything she's ever dreamed of...including being a reporter for the D.P. and being in a real relationship with Clark.

Come on Chlark fans, we need a louder voice these days!!!

Come on Chloe or Chlark fans!! We need some Chloe love!

[Son of Kal-El20]

See this is why Chloe should hook up with the Flash. The Flash thought she was really hot.

[Ares]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I still hate Chloe.

:lol:


Originally posted by Son of Kal-El20
See this is why Chloe should hook up with the Flash. The Flash thought she was really hot.

I think there was an age differance? :confused:

[Son of Kal-El20]

I don't think the age difference was too big.

[velocity]

Originally posted by Minela
Yeah, but Chloe is hated by the writers and producers, Lana is a saint to them.
Then explain season 6. I think it's the complete opposite.
I've never seen Chloe done anything remotely selfish our questionable since season 3. Heck, she's more wholy than Martha Kent.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Son of Kal-El20
See this is why Chloe should hook up with the Flash. The Flash thought she was really hot.

This choice is where Chloe proved to be as stupid as Clark when it comes to romance. Yep, stupid as Clark.....and that says something.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by velocity
Then explain season 6. I think it's the complete opposite.
I've never seen Chloe done anything remotely selfish our questionable since season 3. Heck, she's more wholy than Martha Kent.

Well what about her keeping Lana's secrets and Clark giving her crap for it? I understand Minela's POV whether or not they make Chloe wholy and do no wrong, she doesn't get anything good out of it... like for example look at Prom Queen... that's an honor they make her posessed thus missing her crowning and then make her sit on the side at the table, watching Clana dance thinking about her first dance... that when it was her and Clark, he left her for Lana, but there is nothing to drive them apart. And she didn't dance once... and they never mentioned who the Prom King was... anywho that's just one example...

[chlark fan]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I still hate Chloe.


Are you one of the writers for Smallville? :eek:

If you're not, i'm sure they'd hire you considering you have the most important part down.

I'm half kidding.

[kal-el_Girl]

Originally posted by Kyogre
lana is hated 100x more
chloe is a saint in these forums I couldn't have said it better!!
thank you :rotfl:

[Joelito]

Yeah...I don't like what Chloe character is getting to, but yet again..we all know somehow this will come to the end..for her...

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by Autumn
In my opinion, Chloe Sullivan has become one of the most crapped on characters in television history. And Al Gough and Miles Millar are to blame with their blatant chauvinism.

It honestly makes me want to stop watching. Yet I still do. Who knows why. I don't even like the show anymore.

Could you give some examples of their blatant chauvinism? They are the ones who created this character that so many young feminists love. You wouldn't think a chauvinist would be capable of that.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Originally posted by chlark fan
I will have bad memories of it when it's all over if Chloe gets treated this way until the end.

I agree, the writers want us to feel bad for chloe, they want to us to view chloe and have compassion. But there is only so much abuse we can watch. Give the girl a break, every dog has their day , but chloe's life is just one disappoint after another. I can only watch a car accident scene for so long.

I want chloe happy , and to me it does not matter what makes her happy, I just want some happiness in her life.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by chlark fan
If the writers were smart then Chlark would happen. It would be the best relationship on Smallville ever and no one can deny how they've set it up over the years.

I've never felt that a real Clark/Chloe romantic relationship was going to happen. So no, I don't think they've set it up over the years. They've just thrown the Chlark fans little scraps to keep them hooked on the show, but it's all tease.

[cma_454]

IMHO, they need to make Chloe her own character instead of a surrogate for an iconic character.

She stared out as the surrogate iconic Lois Lane, then morphed into a sort of iconic Lois Lane / iconic Pete Ross.

Now, that they have a Lois Lane and plenty of people to fill the Pete Ross duties (Lana, Kara, Lionel, MM) they need to give Chloe a destiny of her own. Get her out of journalism and into something else. Have her learn to control her powers and become a Doctor, have her join the JLA, etc. Just give Chloe her own destiny (not just something borrowed from some iconic character)!

[nickyjean_1]

I'm honestly kinda pissed that they made the Kara/Jimmy thing so blantant (but she his clarks cousin and he's nothing if not obvious about his love for Lana).. Of Course at first glance she's in love with Jimmy, the guy makes Jensen Ackles look like Screech.. -and if this is ever quoted without the dripping Sarcasm I sware I will hunt them down and kill them Winchester style- But so not the point.

Of course it was blantant.. that's all the writers know how to write. Lana going to the dark side is the only sudtle thing I've ever seen them write. They have the depth of a puddle. and if you wonder why I still watch I did miss an entire season and only came back bc of the promise of GA and JL and ofcouse hope that this eppisode will be better then the last..

Chloe is the only real spark of orginality the show has. With all this talk of destiny, she's the only one that hasn't been written. I don't want her anywhere near clark (he's unworthy).. and this new reveolation of Jimmy's, well it's not good, Metro freak = bad.

Chloe used to not think that way.. (someone mentioned before that you only find what you look for.) but Chloe used to have lists of people that were "special" and she knew their was a line.. Chloe's been saying they either end up in a hospital as some expereiment or dead (this having to do with Lex and his lvl 33.1 kidnapping people and holding them for experiments.) It's not just a fear that she'll snap, its also the fear that like Clark has that people will lock her in a cage and use her for tests or to further their needs. But I still don't think she believes they are all going evil. well that's my hope anyway.

[cma_454]

Originally posted by chlark fan
Lana is boring and Lois is simply a hyper, b*tchy, less intelligent version of Chloe. It's simply embarassing the way Lana and Lois (and apparently Kara) make every man fall in love with them while Chloe only has Jimmy and now he's starting to move on to one of the apparent "HOT" girls.

Sad, but probably one of the elements of Smallville that most accurately reflects reality.

[Jory]

A reviewer at a different site has dubbed this season: "Kick Chloe Sullivan while she's down." Even he (the reviewer) dislikes it.

[Jephael]

I kinda like how they made Chloe into the underdog of the story at this point. For the last two seasons she was Clark's shoulder to cry on but now that he's more content with his relationships he can be there for her.

[chlo-el]

Originally posted by Jephael
I kinda like how they made Chloe into the underdog of the story at this point. For the last two seasons she was Clark's shoulder to cry on but now that he's more content with his relationships he can be there for her.

He better be. Chloe will need it big time. But yeah these last two eps were kick Chloe while she is down.


Originally posted by nickyjean_1
I'm honestly kinda pissed that they made the Kara/Jimmy thing so blantant (but she his clarks cousin and he's nothing if not obvious about his love for Lana).. Of Course at first glance she's in love with Jimmy, the guy makes Jensen Ackles look like Screech.. -and if this is ever quoted without the dripping Sarcasm I sware I will hunt them down and kill them Winchester style- But so not the point.

Of course it was blantant.. that's all the writers know how to write. Lana going to the dark side is the only sudtle thing I've ever seen them write. They have the depth of a puddle. and if you wonder why I still watch I did miss an entire season and only came back bc of the promise of GA and JL and ofcouse hope that this eppisode will be better then the last..

Chloe is the only real spark of orginality the show has. With all this talk of destiny, she's the only one that hasn't been written. I don't want her anywhere near clark (he's unworthy).. and this new reveolation of Jimmy's, well it's not good, Metro freak = bad.

Chloe used to not think that way.. (someone mentioned before that you only find what you look for.) but Chloe used to have lists of people that were "special" and she knew their was a line.. Chloe's been saying they either end up in a hospital as some expereiment or dead (this having to do with Lex and his lvl 33.1 kidnapping people and holding them for experiments.) It's not just a fear that she'll snap, its also the fear that like Clark has that people will lock her in a cage and use her for tests or to further their needs. But I still don't think she believes they are all going evil. well that's my hope anyway.

Yeah. What ever happened to the Chloe from the Vengence Chronicles who had her virtual Wall of weird showing an important category of person with speceal ability and that was how they used their ability.

[pizzaguy19]

Originally posted by nickyjean_1
Of course it was blantant.. that's all the writers know how to write. Lana going to the dark side is the only sudtle thing I've ever seen them write. They have the depth of a puddle. and if you wonder why I still watch I did miss an entire season and only came back bc of the promise of GA and JL and ofcouse hope that this eppisode will be better then the last..

well said. It was a bit insulting how blatant and poorly written the Karimmy was.

[CountryGirl84]

I don't think they're actually going to do the Karimmy are they?? I think we have to cut Kara some slack, poor girl was stuck in that space ship for like 18 years, she's just horny like crazy, how could she not go for Jimmy? Besides the male characters for her to have the hots for are kind of limited. Who else were they supposed to use? Maybe Lex in a bit, lil bit of Florence Nightengale syndrome there.... (Lexara??) and i think they maybe hooked up in the comics no? But right now he's still in love with Lana. Kara can be his rebound girl. I think the Chlimmy is safe. All Jimmy did was look, he still wanted to "go upstairs" with Chloe. :D

P.S. I really like your melon cap pizzaguy

[ginnyfan]

I think finding out that she's meteor infected has really derailed Chloe's life.

That has doused her fire more than anything else IMO. So again, I feel that once she accepts her powers and comes to terms with them, she'll be able to go from there.

I think all the obstacles Chloe is facing could really transform her character and elevate her to this new self-driven place. I want to see Chloe in a place of balance. Oracle/Sidekick AND Investagative Journalist AND Cousin/Friend. I want to see it be a decisive, joyful thing and not a self sacrificial thing. I'm sick of "anything for you Clark." I want to see Chloe Sullivan do whatever she chooses to do because it's her calling and she'd be doing it whether Clark is around or not. She's got to step out on her own a bit, I think.

As far as Jimmy/Chloe goes. I don't see what everyone is so outraged about. Kara is into him. He didn't really look twice at the girl until the end of the episode. She's gorgeous. I was watching closely to see if Jimmy would look back as he and Chloe were headed upstairs and he did not. His mind was on Chloe. So... I wish Chimmy could just go along in bliss this season as in last... but Chloe needs to be honest with Jimmy and Kara has a crush on him. There's going to be some tension. So far nothing to cry about on Chloe's end.

I think the biggest bummer right now is her meteor power. It really shows just how prejudiced Chloe was, that she's having such a hard time. I'm REALLY looking forward to next week. I'm hoping it's Chloe centered and really addresses her power. I'm hoping she'll tell Jimmy the truth and he'll be there for her.

If they were going to crap on Chloe and kill her... I just feel like she would have died in the season premiere. Nah... I think something big is coming. I think it will be really exciting and cool for Chloe's character. I think it could be as... momentous as Chloe learning Clark's secret. I'm hoping she harnesses her power and... does something surprising in a good way.

So far a lot of the arguments for Chloe Sullivan as endless car wreck seem to stem from Chlark and Chlois hopes.

[aqgalaxy]

CountryGirl84, I think there is a Karimmy kiss in Cure, it was in that interview so they filmed it...

And Jimmy not just looked at Kara, before he talks to Chloe he licks his lips meaning if He and Chloe does the nasty... he'd be picturing Kara

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by Jephael
I kinda like how they made Chloe into the underdog of the story at this point. For the last two seasons she was Clark's shoulder to cry on but now that he's more content with his relationships he can be there for her.

Honestly, I don't think Clark will be there for her very much, she's going to be pretty much on her own. Sure he saves her next week, but he's going to be in Lana lala land and trying to handle Kara and take care of the farm. Chloe is going to take a hit in her relationship with Clark along with all the other hits she's going to have to take. This is going to be a hard season for anyone who cares about Chloe's character.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
CountryGirl84, I think there is a Karimmy kiss in Cure, it was in that interview so they filmed it...

And Jimmy not just looked at Kara, before he talks to Chloe he licks his lips meaning if He and Chloe does the nasty... he'd be picturing Kara

YUCK! Your interpretation. Definitely not mine.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
YUCK! Your interpretation. Definitely not mine.

Yeah I know... while I hate Chlimmy I don't want Chloe to lose him... considering he's the only one who ever showed interest in her. But bella, when a man licks his lips after looking at a hot woman means they would... yeah...


Originally posted by Jephael
I kinda like how they made Chloe into the underdog of the story at this point. For the last two seasons she was Clark's shoulder to cry on but now that he's more content with his relationships he can be there for her.

I doubt it, he was with Lois at the beginning of Kara, because she had a "Near Death" experience... Chloe just died and came back to life.. obviously not being there at that point. Hell he was willing to start his training despite the "It goes both ways, Chloe" and not even a goodbye nice

In this episode... Chloe is there for Clark always but really... for someone who promised to be their bomb squad knowing something happened to her... he doesn't go and see how she's holding up


I think it's season 1-5 all over again, Chloe is just his search engine

[chloefan]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I still hate Chloe.

So glad you can add that gem to the conversation AGAIN!! :rolleyes:

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Yeah I know... while I hate Chlimmy I don't want Chloe to lose him... considering he's the only one who ever showed interest in her. But bella, when a man licks his lips after looking at a hot woman means they would... yeah...


No... he shook it off as he was following Chloe up the stairs. If he'd looked back...

Jimmy's freaky but... *shakes head* No.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
No... he shook it off as he was following Chloe up the stairs. If he'd looked back...

Jimmy's freaky but... *shakes head* No.

He licked his lips... that's worse then looking back...

[citizenlen]

Chloe is taking up too much screen time. Because of her character, the two iconic legend Lana and Lois is reduced to poorly written angst and sarcasm story lines.

Face it, she lost her spunk! Sayonara Chloe!

[wolverine316]

It is nice to see SuperChloe get knocked off her perch once and a while.

[chlo-el]

Originally posted by wolverine316
It is nice to see SuperChloe get knocked off her perch once and a while.
Once in a while don't you mean like every ep since the second half of s6.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Just because a lot of bad stuff has been happening to Chloe doesn't mean the writers hate her. When something bad happens to Clark is that because the writers hate him? The writers obviously like the character of Chloe quite a bit or else she wouldn't be featured so much in the show. For an example of a character the writers really didn't like, see Pete. What you all are actually complaining about is the writers alleged disregard for Chloe fans. The things you want to see happening for Chloe aren't happening.

[CountryGirl84]

I think I have to agree ^
The writers seem to like to torture all the charcters actually. None of them have it very good, even poor lil' Martha had to lose Jonathan years before she had to in the Comic books. They also seem to enjoy torturing the audience, (someone is always pining after someone in unrequited love, and someone else is always being sneaky and hurtful behind someone else's back) and we seem to enjoy the torture because we come back for it week after week.

[redraven]

Originally posted by wolverine316
It is nice to see SuperChloe get knocked off her perch once and a while.

Indeed it is. Although after watching the scenes between her, Grant, and Lois again I did feel pretty bad for her.

[chlark fan]

See SuperChloe get knocked off her perch??? :eek: What, because she finally had a nice boyfriend and a good job it's hiugh time she get kicked around again?? That makes no sense.

It's not just about what's happening to Chloe right now, it's also about what we know is to come for her. Unfortunately her cousin is going to snag Chloe's dream man and dream job and the tptb don't look like they're going to make this transition easy on her. I mean Chloe's put in 6 years working toward a journalism career and just as long pining after Clark and Lois is just going to swoop in and take it all??? That's just plain mean of them. Any true fan of Chloe's must feel she is the abused underdog on the show.

[Serynarpc]

This episode was 'meh'.

Lana cuts Chloe out of her and Clark's lives by telling Clark that Chloe can't know she's alive. Chloe has kept Clark's secret for -years- yet somehow, Chloe would spill the beans on this.

Lana ensured that Chloe's time with Clark will be limited because Clark's going to be wrapped around Lana's finger for another season.

Chloe sees hot girl as competition for Jimmy's affection. I'm hoping she gets 'possessed' and just starts whacking on people with blunt objects next episode.

It will be hilarious and make about as much sense as 'Fierce' did.

[Chlarkislove]

Originally posted by chlark fan
Well, I hope you're right about revelations this season, i'm really trying to be hopeful. But not making Chlark happen is one of the many many reasons they are unfair to Chloe. She has been in love with Clark since season one and even with several "almost" romances they have never gotten the chance at a real relationship. Her redemption can only ever be truly realized if her and Clark have their moment in time to sort things out for good. Chloe needs her moment to shine where she gets everything she's ever dreamed of...including being a reporter for the D.P. and being in a real relationship with Clark.

Come on Chlark fans, we need a louder voice these days!!!

Come on Chloe or Chlark fans!! We need some Chloe love!


Even though I am a Chlarker at this point I'm not that much into it happening on the show. I love to read fanficiton, but as far as the show goes I really would think Chloe deserved better than Clark Kent. I'm holding out for Chlollie now. I'd even take Chlart. :D

[Theshadow129x]

Chloe hating? im tired of the character hating. the way the show is now its like they are tarnishing every character that has ever graced the superman comics. lex is a wimp, clark is an idiot, lana is a self centered snob, pete is a rag doll for the show, jonathan kent was a controlling father, lois is granted jobs for no reason, jimmy shouldnt exists at all, martha is...well martha...., shelby is always missing in action until the last minute (the dog on pushing daisies gets more screen time in 2 episodes than shelby has in 4 seasons), and lionel is a person that goes from bad to evil with no idication as to whats gonig on with him, and they used green arrow like he was batman since they cant get him on the show, and kara is a snobby teenager who was sent to look after clark who cant take care of herself. its not just chloe!

[cma_454]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
...even poor lil' Martha had to lose Jonathan years before she had to in the Comic books...

Sorry to interupt the thread with a nit pick, but when did Marthat EVER lose Jonathan in the comics?

AFAIK, the older comics had Martha dying first and the current comics have them both alive. The whole Jonathan dying and leaving Martha a widow seems to have started on the 1950's Adventures of Superman, continued in the Superman movies, and is now part of Smallville.

In curent comics (as well as Lois & Clark) both are alive.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread...

[Billy Jor-El]

In the Silver Age comics I recall a story where Superman (probably Superboy in that period) took Jonathon and Martha to some jungle excursion. They found a treasure chest sort of thing and by opening it they unknowingly became exposed to a bacteria that Kal-El could do nothing about. They died simultaneously in that story.....

[Honey45]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I hate Chloe.

I don't hate Chloe, but I sure as hell don't feel bad for her. A lot of characters have gone through a lot worse stuff. Her boss yells at her and there's an uproar by the fans. Who cares? It's life. Bosses are mean. Boyfriends are jerks.

Where's Lionel??

[CountryGirl84]

Originally posted by cma_454

Sorry to interupt the thread with a nit pick, but when did Marthat EVER lose Jonathan in the comics?

AFAIK, the older comics had Martha dying first and the current comics have them both alive. The whole Jonathan dying and leaving Martha a widow seems to have started on the 1950's Adventures of Superman, continued in the Superman movies, and is now part of Smallville.

In curent comics (as well as Lois & Clark) both are alive.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread...

My apologies, I was thinking of after the doomsday series when Jonathan has a heart attack and nearly dies (there's that whole near death thing where he talks to Clark and stuff) I forgot that he doesn't actually die though. I think i got confused because the Smallville storyline with the heart attack was similar... I read them a long time ago, things get jumbled together and such.

[Heroes4Hire]

Wow I can't believe this thread. Three episodes into the season and already people are griping about how Chloe is being mistreated. Now don't get me wrong I like Chloe, but I think this "hating" on Chloe is good for her character. Since about season 4 Chloe has been pretty much a one dimensional character even Lana has different dimensions too her, but not chloe she is either the side kick or Clark's "secret lover" then last season they tried to add some depth to her character by making her a meteor freak which I think was awesome. And the new editor putting a fire under Chloe because she has lost her passion is great. It keeps interesting with her character and that's about all I have to say.

[Serynarpc]

Originally posted by Heroes4Hire
Wow I can't believe this thread. Three episodes into the season and already people are griping about how Chloe is being mistreated. Now don't get me wrong I like Chloe, but I think this "hating" on Chloe is good for her character. Since about season 4 Chloe has been pretty much a one dimensional character even Lana has different dimensions too her, but not chloe she is either the side kick or Clark's "secret lover" then last season they tried to add some depth to her character by making her a meteor freak which I think was awesome. And the new editor putting a fire under Chloe because she has lost her passion is great. It keeps interesting with her character and that's about all I have to say.

Chloe has been very diverse throughout the love - hate- envious of Clark & Lana, her two best friends.

Lana has about as much depth as a yogurt culture.
Lana has another stalker. Lana is in the hospital again. Lana gets married, yet tramps around with Clark.

You can just recycle these thing over and over and pretty much sum up Lana's screen time.

[Jules26]

We all know that Clark ends up will Lois. (Fingers crossed for Chlois) Still they could at least give us something. And not just a season ending Chlark kiss where everone just pretends it never happened. I mean Chloe has been dumped on a lot. She deserves someone to see her for the awesomeness she is.

[CountryGirl84]

I would much rather see Clark with Chloe than with Lana, but at the same time, Chloe deserves better than someone who practically ignored her for seven years. If Chloe went with Clark now it would just make her... sort of pathetic actually. What I would really love to see:

Clark: "Chloe... I think I'm in love with you. You're so great and smart and you know me like no one else knows me. When I'm with you I feel more like myself than with anyone... plus you have really great boobs and a sweet a**... I can't believe I never realized before..."

Chloe: "Clark.... I love you too.... but, I'm not in love with you. I'm sorry..."

Then Clark can be all sad and mopey and go hang out by himself in the loft to brood like usual...

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by Alexander III
I hate Chloe.

Nice to know:rolleyes:....*moving on*

[xaosthry]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I would much rather see Clark with Chloe than with Lana, but at the same time, Chloe deserves better than someone who practically ignored her for seven years. If Chloe went with Clark now it would just make her... sort of pathetic actually. What I would really love to see:

Clark: "Chloe... I think I'm in love with you. You're so great and smart and you know me like no one else knows me. When I'm with you I feel more like myself than with anyone... plus you have really great boobs and a sweet a**... I can't believe I never realized before..."

Chloe: "Clark.... I love you too.... but, I'm not in love with you. I'm sorry..."

Then Clark can be all sad and mopey and go hang out by himself in the loft to brood like usual...

Indeed. After all these years for Clark just say he loves Chloe, it would be more like rebound after Lana. I have a feeling that the Clana is going to end up badly after all that's been said and done.

I want them to show Chloe moved on from Clark completely. She will always love him..but not in love with him.

[Angelina2809]

I do not hate Chloe!!!!
I really like her a lot!
She was always a great friend - especially for Clark- He was able to talk with her about everything - even his destiny ect.

I am a Chloe and Lana Fan - and of course a Clark Fan!

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by chlark fan
I love Smallville, but I will have bad memories of it when it's all over if Chloe gets treated this way until the end. So the first guy to ever be crazy about Chloe ends up falling in love with SUPERGIRL/Barbie??? It's not enough that absolutely everyone that crosses paths with Lana or Lois thinks they're the most amazing thing they've ever seen, but then Chloe gets NOONE?? Poor Chloe gets to see her cousin land her dream job and her dream man and now SUPERGIRL steals her boyfriend?? The only possible redemption to the creators is if Chloe and Clark get together for a while until she dumps HIM and then she ends up being editor of the New York Times!

AMEN !!!! You said it!

[chlo-el]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I would much rather see Clark with Chloe than with Lana, but at the same time, Chloe deserves better than someone who practically ignored her for seven years. If Chloe went with Clark now it would just make her... sort of pathetic actually. What I would really love to see:

Clark: "Chloe... I think I'm in love with you. You're so great and smart and you know me like no one else knows me. When I'm with you I feel more like myself than with anyone... plus you have really great boobs and a sweet a**... I can't believe I never realized before..."

Chloe: "Clark.... I love you too.... but, I'm not in love with you. I'm sorry..."

Then Clark can be all sad and mopey and go hang out by himself in the loft to brood like usual...

I would love to see that too.


Originally posted by Jules26
We all know that Clark ends up will Lois. (Fingers crossed for Chlois) Still they could at least give us something. And not just a season ending Chlark kiss where everone just pretends it never happened. I mean Chloe has been dumped on a lot. She deserves someone to see her for the awesomeness she is.

I know is that so much to ask?

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
I would much rather see Clark with Chloe than with Lana, but at the same time, Chloe deserves better than someone who practically ignored her for seven years. If Chloe went with Clark now it would just make her... sort of pathetic actually. What I would really love to see:

Clark: "Chloe... I think I'm in love with you. You're so great and smart and you know me like no one else knows me. When I'm with you I feel more like myself than with anyone... plus you have really great boobs and a sweet a**... I can't believe I never realized before..."

Chloe: "Clark.... I love you too.... but, I'm not in love with you. I'm sorry..."

Then Clark can be all sad and mopey and go hang out by himself in the loft to brood like usual...

Wouldn't that make Lois seem like a third choice then... also since they are making Lois look more like Chloe and should this happen would Clark fall for Lois because she reminds him of Chloe?

[CountryGirl84]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Wouldn't that make Lois seem like a third choice then... also since they are making Lois look more like Chloe and should this happen would Clark fall for Lois because she reminds him of Chloe?


Yeah you're totally right, but they've screwed up these characters so much on Smallville... I feel like the Clark Kent they've created is unworthy of Chloe or Lois at this point. If this Clark Kent ever went for the "cannon" Lois Lane I would fully expect her to laugh in his face... What SHOULD have happened is that Clark should have gotten over Lana a long time ago, tried a thing with Chloe long before he ever met Lois that didn't work out romantically because they are just too good of friends and we all know that best friends don't necessarily equate to the best lover, and then when Lois did come along it would be perfect because she is alike enough to Chloe but has that je ne sais quois that makes two people beyond perfect for each other.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by CountryGirl84
Yeah you're totally right, but they've screwed up these characters so much on Smallville... I feel like the Clark Kent they've created is unworthy of Chloe or Lois at this point. If this Clark Kent ever went for the "cannon" Lois Lane

I agree... How about... Lois stays with Oliver and Chloe gets AC? and Chlo Lo becomes the ace Reporters at the DP under Perry White?


Originally posted by CountryGirl84
What SHOULD have happened is that Clark should have gotten over Lana a long time ago, tried a thing with Chloe long before he ever met Lois that didn't work out romantically because they are just too good of friends and we all know that best friends don't necessarily equate to the best lover, and then when Lois did come along it would be perfect because she is alike enough to Chloe but has that je ne sais quois that makes two people beyond perfect for each other.

First off that whole best friends best lovers comment... I married my best friend, just so you know... hehe (aka that is the only part I disagree with you over)

What really should happen is yes Chlark before Clois however... what I think was Chloe gets her shot and like you said... that attraction just goes.. I mean they are still close just not romantically, you know tried it better off as friends crap

And then Chloe becomes a Clois cheerleader hehe that way while she doesn't want Clark romantically she would be all for having him apart of her family That i can live with... (but of course Chloe gets a stud superhero herself you know to be fair and all ;):))

[CountryGirl84]

First off that whole best friends best lovers comment... I married my best friend, just so you know... hehe (aka that is the only part I disagree with you over)

Oh yes :) I agree best friends can truly make the best lovers, but what I meant was that just because two people are best friends doesn't mean that it follows that they will be great lovers. Sometimes its disastrous!:D Not that I think Chloe and Clark would have been disastrous but like you said the attraction could have just not worked out in the end.

And EXACTLY what you said about the cheerleader part, it would make complete sense for her to feel that way if they got their shot and such... too bad TPTB don't' really care so much about what makes sense lol


I agree... How about... Lois stays with Oliver and Chloe gets AC? and Chlo Lo becomes the ace Reporters at the DP under Perry White?

The only thing I don't like about this is that AC would still be a bit of Lois leftovers. I'd prefer someone that was head over heels for her like maybe Bart ...although he was a little nerdy and young for me. Although we'd never see it on Smallville, I've read a few fan fictions where she ends up with Bruce Wayne.... I LOVE that! Come on who is hunkier than Batman? Something about that darkness that makes him incredibly sexy... and plus he needs a smart girl like Chloe

[Jephael]

Lois actually did go out with Bruce Wayne in the animated cartoon series!

[Billy Jor-El]

I'd like to see the BDA finally decide he wants Chloe, but she's too smart for that and basically turns him down flat. They can stay friends, but that's it. She is TOO GOOD for him.

And it still is weird that Clark and Lois are an item (OK, Lois and Clark). I mean Dean and Terry's show was the only one I can think of in that vein. It's always been Lois has the hots for Superman and thinks Clark is a dork. Sure, they're the same person, but where has Lois ever had an interest in Clark before knowing his deep, dark secret?

Phyllis Coates was hard hitting as Lois and I don't even know if she had goo goo eyes for Superman or not. Noel Neill, certainly. Margot was smitten with Superman, not Clark, Terry hated the competition before the truth came out, Kate couldn't care less about Brandon. Hmmmm, I keep wondering if Lois is just a star struck groupie. And Chloe ain't no groupie, she deserves the real thing, she would be in love for the right reasons. Heck, she's had the hots for Clark long before knowing he's from a galaxy far, far away ("....it just adds character..."). Ya gotta love this woman, I sure do ;)