It's time to end Smallville

[galatians221]

The writers obviously have hit a brick wall. They can't help but bring Lana and Clark back together because it is past time for Clark to be trained and fulfill his destiny. They are milking it past it's life expectancy and have to bring in other characters because they have to stall on Clark's development. It's getting silly. Clark tells Martha that as soon as he takes care of the phantoms he wants to fulfill his destiny. Oliver goads Clark about staying home when there's a world in turmoil that needs him and Jor El tells him to go home and deal with Kara so he's reduced to monitoring Corn Festival beauty contests and mooning once again over Lana. They can't get Clark off the farm because he'd have to become SM. They are just going to turn S7 into a soap opera "As Krypton turns". It's getting inane and it needs to end if they are not going to let Clark become Superman. What a shame. I was so glad to be past the Freak of the Week nonsense and it's back because the writers are not being allowed to continue to advance the character of CK.

[Clana4Life]

They can't take him out of Smallville, that would end the show, so I guess they are doing the best they can.

[thehenry89]

people have been saying this for the last four years. And yet Krypton still turns. Lana's still stuggling with her true identy (something that a good anti-psychotic would probably help), and Clark is still messing around with cows on a farm.

[paolinki25]

The thing is they keep coming back to a relationship that has been pretty badly damaged. Now, 7 seasons later, it's just beyond repair. Clark needs to put an end to this chapter of his life and move on to the things he's supposed to be doing right now. He's not a high school boy anymore.

[chloefan]

It does seem really like this year they don't wanna advance the story. I thought Clark was fixing to train?? Where is that??

They seemingly just dropped it all of a sudden.

I also don't get the incessant and dogged determination about him not flying. I could see at the beginning but now it makes no sense. His cousin was even making fun of him about it.

He has to do it eventually to be Superman.

We know that that is the final thing and after that its done so if that's the only reason they are stalling they need to go ahead and have him be Superman and fly and end it.

I mean really you can tell now they're stalling and have nothing else to write but just wanna continue to milk it for all its worth.

I'll watch it as long as its on but its obvious thats what they're doing now.

[Clana4Life]

As much as all of the people on this board complain, they will all keep watching it until it ends.

[uhhuhhim]

I don't mind Clana, but I see what all of you are saying. Seeing as how I'm not much of a Lois fan, I actually missed her in this episode because the only interesting relationship, or non-existent one at this point, is that of Lois and Clark...At least they have got the banter down, but now it's back to Clark drooling over Lana...it's been done...I'd rather see Lois have a few scenes where she's picking on Clark instead of him creaming his jeans every time he sees Lana...

[InLove_with_Chloe]

How could I not agree with a thread like this one???


Originally posted by Clana4Life
As much as all of the people on this board complain, they will all keep watching it until it ends.
Actually, no. Not all of them.

[ChlarkMe]

This season is going to be like watching a juicy succulent steak shrivel up to charcoal on the grill. It so overcooked it's painful to watch.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Maybe it's me but I don't see the sparkle in Clark's eyes for Lana any more.

which is a good thing:D

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
This season is going to be like watching a juicy succulent steak shrivel up to charcoal on the grill. It so overcooked it's painful to watch.

That's why i say a special prayer at the end of the night, thanking god for my mute button.

[Insight]

Boy, ya'll are just full of cheer.

[fxrsteve]

Say what you want about this being "Smallville", but it IS about Superman.
It seems like everyone has this thing about flying. get over it! He can fly. If you've ever heard about Superboy then you know Clark should have been flying in season one.
Another topic the writers are avoiding is Lex. He is an evil mastermind hell bent to rule the world.NOT some love sick, hopeless romantic

[superman79]

This show really sucks now. How stupid are the creators to expect their audience to buy Clark not flying yet everyone and their uncle can? I love Welling as Superman and Durance as Lane but my joy in this show ends there, oh wait, Rosenbaum is brilliant. This whole Lana thing is just dumb dumb dumb. Joss whedon had it right, He had buffy move on and get Angel out of there before it became pathetic.

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Maybe it's me but I don't see the sparkle in Clark's eyes for Lana any more.

which is a good thing:D

You're right it's awkward and makes no sense. If they were being realistic, Clark would take her up to the loft and make love to her and/or immediately ask her to marry him. There was a formality to their relationship that made no sense. She's sitting around the kitchen eating Cheerios and he's talking to her like they've been married for twenty years. No passion, just business as usual except for an occasional conversation. Also, if she's hiding from Chloe why does Clark tell her to stay with him? Chloe pops in there every epidode. They are writing themselves into a corner and the product just isn't as good. Clark is no longer the focus of Smallville because they are essentially finished developing his character. The next step has to be fortress training and emerging as Superman and they will not do that so it's back to a disjointed soap opera and the FOTW.

[mctor]

I think it is funny how everytime people dislike an episode a thread starts stating smallville should end....it's pretty hilarious....but mostly pathetic

[fxrsteve]

Kinda like seeing the Rolling Stones in concert. You just sit there wondering WTF.
I don't think the writers care about the product(show) any more, they just want to keep their jobs so they're gonna drag this thing out as long as they can


Originally posted by mctor
I think it is funny how everytime people dislike an episode a thread starts stating smallville should end....it's pretty hilarious....but mostly pathetic


The show shouldn't end, but some of the old,tired story lines should

[Mello Penelo]

I gave up on Smallville a long time ago.

[98chase]

Originally posted by chloefan
It does seem really like this year they don't wanna advance the story. I thought Clark was fixing to train?? Where is that??

They seemingly just dropped it all of a sudden.

I also don't get the incessant and dogged determination about him not flying. I could see at the beginning but now it makes no sense. His cousin was even making fun of him about it.

He has to do it eventually to be Superman.

We know that that is the final thing and after that its done so if that's the only reason they are stalling they need to go ahead and have him be Superman and fly and end it.

I mean really you can tell now they're stalling and have nothing else to write but just wanna continue to milk it for all its worth.

I'll watch it as long as its on but its obvious thats what they're doing now.
Isn't a complaint from people on here that Lana is what keeps Clark from fulfilling his destiny, from training and flying, and from ultimately becoming Superman? Let's say they are right.
Did it ever cross anyone's mind that the reason Clark is still stuck on Lana is possibly because they never gave the relationship one strong, honest run? I mean, Clark has liked/loved her for years and they've had an on and off relationship. The one time he was able to be completely honest with her, he was as happy as he could be, but it only lasted a few days. Then, it was back to the lies. Maybe, just maybe, Clark has been holding on to the thought of Lana because he still believes that if he is able to be totally honest with her, he will be happy. Maybe, just maybe, he needs to enter this relationship and have it fail for reasons other than his "secret", his true self, in order to see that Lana is not the woman for him. If/when that happens, maybe Clark's "mental block" will be lifted. Maybe he will stop hating who he really is and can truthfully begin his journey down the path to becoming Superman.

I don't know, that's how I see it. I like to find some good in the situation rather than immediately write everything off.

[galatians221]

TPTB are smart people and they have to know that fans of the show want to see Clark become Superman. I understand that is the end of Smallville and the beginning of what I wish would be a new show called "Metropolis" or something but if they refuse to do that then it's time to wind it down. I read that Welling is signed for an 8th season and it's a ratings winner for CW so why wouldn't Gough and Millar want to continue the success and allow Clark to fulfill his destiny and move on into the next phase? Instead they are allowing the show to deteriorate and that is a shame.

[Mello Penelo]

I'll do a happy dance when it's over. I'm going to watch, just to see how far down in flames it can go.

[Smit6178]

Well I will say certain things in this season have me interested and so I think it will be better than season six, but I've felt like the show has run its course since the second half of season 5. I think the first half of season 5 was a big improvement over season 4 and I feel like they were really building to Clark accepting his destiny at the end of the season. Clark now has the Fortress with Jor-el saying he needs to train, Clark and Lex are now enemies, Jonathon dies, and supervillain Brainiac is thrown in for good measure. I think if they spent the last 10 episodes wrapping up the series after Jonathon died it would have been an overall excellent season with some faults.

Season six felt like the first season where Clark really didn't take ANY steps toward his destiny. The first half was mostly a lot of episodes with Green Arrow as the guest hero, the second half was the Lexana triangle, and there were episodes where Clark battled the Phantom Zone inmates in between. The phantom zoners also served the same purpose as meator freaks in previous seasons as being "freak of the weeks." At least season 4's crystal storyline had a HUGE pay off with the forming of the Fortress of Solitude.

[chlark fan]

I thought this episode was very good and entertaining. Clana is absolutely ridiculous, but i've been saying that since the beginning. I'm obviously a Chlark shipper. I love Smallville but I think the only thing that will make me remember Smallville as something great once it's all over is if Clark and Chloe have their moment, Lois matures alot into iconic "Lois", and Chloe gets the appropriate redemption she deserves. Alot of people love Chloe and she better get some Clark soon, ESPECIALLY with Jimmy suddenly making eyes at Kara, cause that's just B.S.

[Minela]

I was an avid supporter of an 8th season. Now, I'm not so sure. I don't know what storylines they can invent anymore to keep Clark away from his destiny. The only thing they can do now is progress the other characters. Lois and Chloe and Jimmy and get Perry into the DP. That's it, though. The only thing that is left to do is tie up the romantic relationship and put this baby to bed. It saddens me. If only we could get "Metropolis" for season 8. Tights, flight, the whole shabang.

[galatians221]

We're all discussing Chlark and Clana and all and that should not be the focus but it is because the writers have de-emphasized Clark. They bring in Green Arrow and MM and Aquaman and all of this stuff that makes Clark and Superman look like just another freak of the week. The emphasis should be on Clark and the other stuff should be subplots that help advance the development of the main character. The main thing is keeping the main thing the main thing and the writers are lost at sea and struggling to find a soap opera or comic book sub plot that will in essence take the focus off of Clark. I mean, did Clark even exert any superpowers other than training Kara to focus her heat vision? Kara was the more important character tonight and I frankly resent that. This show could be renamed "Krypton" or "As Krypton Turns" because they can no longer advance the primary story line and they are stalled. There is nothing more for Clark to do except become Superman unless more aliens come to earth and need lessons in heat vision or to be warned of the dangers of Kryptonite. I hope they can break out of this corner they've written themselves into but I don't see how they can. That's why I say there can be no season 8 without Clark becoming the Man of Steel. It's time.

[Superbeard]

This was a filler episode.

And I have a feel the dragging Clana crap is going to be more shortlived this season. They have made it obvious Clark is starting to accept his destiny.

[Shardz]

let the show run its course then you can have the right to hate. never hate a book because u dont like a few chapters. a few bad chapters is easily forgotten with a great chapter.

some bad episodes have to be aired to setup the great episodes. thats the way i've always seen smallville. i dont live and die with every episode. i try to watch it as a whole.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
They can't take him out of Smallville, that would end the show, so I guess they are doing the best they can.

Ahhh......such impecable logic.....especially from a Clana 4 Life Fan. But really talented writters could make it last.....and WORK. Al & Miles with their useless bullpen of writters are clearly not capable of this. Truth is that it doesn't matter if this show ends brilliantly or stupidly now.......Clark Kent's character has been soiled. I've already heard plenty from Batman fans that are laughing their asses off at the world's future "Greatest Hero.......NOT!". But what the heck.....it not the thinking that Batman is the best DC Comic Book character ever.......because I agree with them.....but it's just that after watching the first 2 seasons of this show......it's a shame that Smallville's ludicruous final seasons are forever going to make Clark look like the dumb little boy who is always talking about growing into a Man.....but instead...actually doing his Lana Lang Worship training in order to remain a perpetual whinney little boy........until they do the Ultimate "Cop Out" and change his character at the last second.


Originally posted by Shardz
let the show run its course then you can have the right to hate. never hate a book because u dont like a few chapters. a few bad chapters is easily forgotten with a great chapter.

some bad episodes have to be aired to setup the great episodes. thats the way i've always seen smallville. i dont live and die with every episode. i try to watch it as a whole.

Not counting this season.....haven't watched it. But few bad episodes over its six year span........Ha-Ha-Ha-Haaaaaaa-Haaaaa! Yeah right. I might have agreed with this in the first 3 seasons......not after. Just my honest opinion.

[Ares]

Yeah I didnt see Clark act all lovey with Lana.. He was more puzzled that she wasnt dead.. More concerned about how Kara was dressed.. Which I totally disagreed with I think she looked fine.. Needed a lil more practice with the book on the head.. but give her time

[STFanatic]

Clark in Smallville is pretty well at a standstill because of the Siegel family -vs- Warner Brothers lawsuit, if they let him fly as Clark Kent or put on a "Super suit", WB would have to fork over a truck load of $$$ to the Siegel family.
The "Super Law Suit" goes back to court on January 28 2008, if they come to a settlement then we may see Clark take to the air.
For more information, Google "Superboy Law-suit".

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Clark in Smallville is pretty well at a standstill because of the Siegel family -vs- Warner Brothers lawsuit, if they let him fly as Clark Kent or put on a "Super suit", WB would have to fork over a truck load of $$$ to the Siegel family.
The "Super Law Suit" goes back to court on January 28 2008, if they come to a settlement then we may see Clark take to the air.
For more information, Google "Superboy Law-suit".

I disagree.....if written well, the series would never have to show him in the suit.....just leaving for his training. But what the heck, the writting sucks and that's that.

[Theshadow129x]

heres the thing. i hated this episode. lana came back waay to early in this season and all of the acting and the stories in this episode alone made everything hard to watch. ugh! this has to be the last season because i cant take more of this lana and clark crap. this boat been sailed after season 5 why come back to it?

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Theshadow129x
heres the thing. i hated this episode. lana came back waay to early in this season and all of the acting and the stories in this episode alone made everything hard to watch. ugh! this has to be the last season because i cant take more of this lana and clark crap. this boat been sailed after season 5 why come back to it?

I see 2 potential problems that may cause another season of Smallville Crap (although to be fair, it's too early in a season to be making this judgement, even if I where watching).

1. A loyal (if diverse....Clois, Chlark, Lexana......Clana*cough*crap*cough following) that will follow the Kryptonians adventures no matter what trash gets served up.

2. The CW is in a bad way.......and it's current shows aren't doing better than Smallville. If it had a decent amount of good shows....Smallville....(I'm fairly sure)....would be history.

[Chokito]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
They can't take him out of Smallville, that would end the show, so I guess they are doing the best they can.

agreed
but a new superman show would be good :D

[Theshadow129x]

if i could watch a show where he isnt wrapped up in lana and actually has a strong sense of heart about him i would say bring on the next show but if i have to watch a show where he pines over a girl and says he isnt sure if this is what he wants to do then the show shouldnt exist

[marka58091]

I hate to say this but I have to agree that Season 7 should be the last. The Lana Clark relationship is getting old. I remember years ago that Al said this show realistically would go to Season 6 but now he has more stories to tell. Sounds like more money to squeeze out of this. Maybe if they end it this season Tom can be free to play SM in JLA.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

No, Smallville is great right now. There's absolutely no reason to end it so far.

[spicyblark]

Except for Kara....what a loser!

[galatians221]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Clark in Smallville is pretty well at a standstill because of the Siegel family -vs- Warner Brothers lawsuit, if they let him fly as Clark Kent or put on a "Super suit", WB would have to fork over a truck load of $$$ to the Siegel family.
The "Super Law Suit" goes back to court on January 28 2008, if they come to a settlement then we may see Clark take to the air.
For more information, Google "Superboy Law-suit".

It would seem to me that the solution is to end Smallville and roll it into "Metropolis" or "Superman - the Beginning" then there is no argument that this is Superboy.

[IvlevK]

I concur with marka58091. This season seems to be the last season!

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I like the way they keep dangling the "training carrot" over us...

The writing is lacklustre and really giving no motivation to watch the show...

Hope things change soon..

[Derrickray]

We've seen Clana, we've seen Lex obsess over a spaceship, we've seen him obsess over someone who saved his life, and we've seen freak-of-the-week. The heat vision shooting off when thinking about sex was funny the first time. It's time for something different.

People are trying to defend this episode by calling it a "filler" episode. With the show wrapping up soon can they afford to have "filler" episodes anymore?

I don't think Smallville is a disaster yet but its dragging as the seasons go on. When the series is done and over and I go back to watch all the boxsets I don't want cringe when I'm nearing the end.

The lack of emotion in the room when Clark and Lana reunited was cringe worthy. He thought Lana was dead and that's all they could come up with? Something big like that shouldn't have been put in the background for a pagent/freak-of-the-week episode. It was suppose to be much more than that and they dropped the ball.

They should find a solid, elegant way to end the series but reverting back to freak-of-the weak episodes is not the way to go. Here's hoping it gets better before it gets worst.

[curiosity]

Clark went to get his training and was told part of his training was to watch Kara because she may not be what she seems.

I don't like to think so many Kryptonians are evil. I wouldn't think Clark's family, the house of EL would be evil. We've seen enough of that with other evil Kryptonian characters.

I don't like how this episode put Clark in the back seat and focused on Kara. Clark needs to be the main character.

Clark and Lana do seem to be acting more grown up, which is a welcome change to their silly stares before, they seem to have lost the silly longing looks. So it seems they're going to take it to the next level which is a good thing. Lana is just so boring compared to Lois.

Clark needs to start thinking about the world and going on rescue missions, while Lana learns she can't share him with the world. This will probably happen to some extent, sinse he told her she didn't know what she was in for, or getting into.

I hope they do that anyway, because I'll freak if I have to watch another episode where Clark doesn't use his powers and sits around with Lana drinking Lemonade, lol. That was sooo boring. Couldn't they have been walking outside or doing some type of farm chores while talking?


Originally posted by Derrickray
We've seen Clana, we've seen Lex obsess over a spaceship, we've seen him obsess over someone who saved his life, and we've seen freak-of-the-week. The heat vision shooting off when thinking about sex was funny the first time. It's time for something different.

People are trying to defend this episode by calling it a "filler" episode. With the show wrapping up soon can they afford to have "filler" episodes anymore?

I don't think Smallville is a disaster yet but its dragging as the seasons go on. When the series is done and over and I go back to watch all the boxsets I don't want cringe when I'm nearing the end.

The lack of emotion in the room when Clark and Lana reunited was cringe worthy. He thought Lana was dead and that's all they could come up with? Something big like that shouldn't have been put in the background for a pagent/freak-of-the-week episode. It was suppose to be much more than that and they dropped the ball.

They should find a solid, elegant way to end the series but reverting back to freak-of-the weak episodes is not the way to go. Here's hoping it gets better before it gets worst.

I like Lex obsessing over Clark, and his alien status. That will never get old. But I agree, no more freak of the weeks! It was just boring. They could come up with some real villians or criminals to fight, or disasters to fix. They didn't focus enough on Clark period, or what was happening with his life.


Originally posted by Derrickray
We've seen Clana, we've seen Lex obsess over a spaceship, we've seen him obsess over someone who saved his life, and we've seen freak-of-the-week. The heat vision shooting off when thinking about sex was funny the first time. It's time for something different.

People are trying to defend this episode by calling it a "filler" episode. With the show wrapping up soon can they afford to have "filler" episodes anymore?

I don't think Smallville is a disaster yet but its dragging as the seasons go on. When the series is done and over and I go back to watch all the boxsets I don't want cringe when I'm nearing the end.

The lack of emotion in the room when Clark and Lana reunited was cringe worthy. He thought Lana was dead and that's all they could come up with? Something big like that shouldn't have been put in the background for a pagent/freak-of-the-week episode. It was suppose to be much more than that and they dropped the ball.

They should find a solid, elegant way to end the series but reverting back to freak-of-the weak episodes is not the way to go. Here's hoping it gets better before it gets worst.

I like Lex obsessing over Clark, and his alien status. That will never get old. But I agree, no more freak of the weeks! It was just boring. They could come up with some real villians or criminals to fight, or disasters to fix. They didn't focus enough on Clark period, or what was happening with his life.

[last man of krypton]

Like a wise man said long ago... "this yo-yo thing with you and Lana has to stop".

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by thehenry89
people have been saying this for the last four years. And yet Krypton still turns. Lana's still stuggling with her true identy (something that a good anti-psychotic would probably help), and Clark is still messing around with cows on a farm.

I knew Clark was into interspecies relationships, but I didn't know he was into cows.

[iheartCK4eva]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Maybe it's me but I don't see the sparkle in Clark's eyes for Lana any more.

which is a good thing:D

LOL I AGREEE YAY BECAUSE ITS NOT MEANT TO B LOIS IS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE EVEN THOUGH I DONT THINK FACE WISE SHE IS HOTTER THAN LANA BUT BODY WISE WHOO WHOOOT LOIS OWWWEEE HONEY LOL NO HOMO


Originally posted by fxrsteve
Say what you want about this being "Smallville", but it IS about Superman.
It seems like everyone has this thing about flying. get over it! He can fly. If you've ever heard about Superboy then you know Clark should have been flying in season one.
Another topic the writers are avoiding is Lex. He is an evil mastermind hell bent to rule the world.NOT some love sick, hopeless romantic

YUP YUP U R RITE AND GUESS WAT! HE DID WELL KINDA IN THE VERY FIRST EPISODE OR SEASON WHEN HE WOKE UP AND HE WAS FLOATING LOL

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by CK&CK
But what the heck, the writting sucks and that's that.

Well, yes and no. As far as I know, Holly Harold wrote this episode and she's not written many.

What their problem is....is that their letting novice writers write episodes when the more seasoned writers should be doing more writing of their own...That's one fault that I can see.

[australian infected]

This episode did suck, But what would you's do if there wasn't smallville anymore?
Start posting threads on supernatural??? ;-)
I could watch this for another 30 seasons if it went that long!

[uhhuhhim]

^^^ LOL...Supernatural...Speaking of that show, it's about 10 years past its prime...

I don't know what I would do if Smallville said goodbye...It's like an event...I rush to get dinner done just so I can sit down and watch it...I know a lot of other people have viewing parties and all that....what would I do...

Point blank: They need to get rid of these mediocre writers and let the people that have been writing the show since Season 1 take over because the person that wrote this episode does not know what the hell they're doing.

[double L]

I thought after the first two episodes everything was good, but after Fierce and seeing the writers really do not know what there doing, so they just bring out the same exact stuff we saw in season 1, the last Clana scene was so lame. If it keeps going like this, and there is not some twist coming with Clana, the show should end.

[smallvillerocks45]

I completely disagree. Clark will have plenty of time to develop (and has already begun to do so). Maybe some won't agree with the way in which the show went and will continute to go about it, but having another Kryptonian tell Clark that he needs to wake up is a major push toward his development.
Additionally, having Kara around is really forcing Clark to grow up. He finally has a chance to learn about his origins and this will inevitably change him and his way of thinking too.

I'm extremely satisfied with this season so far. I can't wait to see what happens next.

[uhhuhhim]

^^^ Well, to give Kara some credit, I really enjoyed the way she told Clark that he was "fooling himself" if he really thought he could grow old with Lana on the farm. After that scene, I yelled: "Yeah!, cut him deep."

[Lostfan588]

Wow...Its kinda weird, I completely forgot about last nights episode, and I didnt even miss it! :eek: Creepy.

A little curious as to what happened, but just the overwhelming negative reviews and from what I hear character assasinations...yes, this show should end.

Cnat even imagine what season 8 would look like at this rate...Clana would probably just get together and have another bout of secrets and lies all over again.

Nothing to miss.

[kal-el_Girl]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Maybe it's me but I don't see the sparkle in Clark's eyes for Lana any more.

which is a good thing:D
exactly! we can only hope.:p

[svsabbiesv]

I don't think Smallville shouldn't have stopped in Season 6, I do think it should stop here at Season 7, there's no where else to go, but I think bringing back Lana will have a turning point on Clark, she knows know and isn't that how its suppose to be in the comics. and bringing Kara into the show will prove to Clark that showing someone to be like him, that he has a bigger destiny, and having Kara bring some history, I know Jor-el says she is dangerous, but I'm not sure how that can be..she seems really sweet even know I wasn't too happy that she was coming. I thought she was gonna take all of Clark's thunder, but I'm enjoying his mentoring, kind of like when Ryan or that little girl, Clark needs someone right now as family and then end the show with no loose ties. Just enjoy it, we won't have it much longer.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
Well, yes and no. As far as I know, Holly Harold wrote this episode and she's not written many.

What their problem is....is that their letting novice writers write episodes when the more seasoned writers should be doing more writing of their own...That's one fault that I can see.

This is a good point. People like to complain that the series has gone down hill in the later seasons (and I agree that it has) often point the finger at Al & Miles' writing. Here's the breakdown of the number of episodes Al & Miles have been leader writers on per season:

1: 5
2: 4
3: 3
4: 1
5: 0
6: 0

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Malicieux Toutou
This is a good point. People like to complain that the series has gone down hill in the later seasons (and I agree that it has) often point the finger at Al & Miles' writing. Here's the breakdown of the number of episodes Al & Miles have been leader writers on per season:

1: 5
2: 4
3: 3
4: 1
5: 0
6: 0

They need to bring that Stephen DeBerg guy back or DeSomething, I can't remember his last name. He was very good.

[MidgardDragon]

People have been saying this since Season 4. I thank God that no one listens to such nonsense.

[Clana159]

Hold on smallville should totally not end, Smallville is about Clark becoming superman, not being superman! Just because hes not flying, and hooking up with Lois doesnt mean it should end... Personally I love Clana!!!And Clark still has a look in his eyes for Lana...

[Timester]

Originally posted by Malicieux Toutou
This is a good point. People like to complain that the series has gone down hill in the later seasons (and I agree that it has) often point the finger at Al & Miles' writing. Here's the breakdown of the number of episodes Al & Miles have been leader writers on per season:

1: 5
2: 4
3: 3
4: 1
5: 0
6: 0

Because they are who decided the story that will going to happen on each episode. They are who plan the season arcs.

[SGMD1]

Originally posted by galatians221
The writers obviously have hit a brick wall. They can't help but bring Lana and Clark back together because it is past time for Clark to be trained and fulfill his destiny. They are milking it past it's life expectancy and have to bring in other characters because they have to stall on Clark's development. It's getting silly. Clark tells Martha that as soon as he takes care of the phantoms he wants to fulfill his destiny. Oliver goads Clark about staying home when there's a world in turmoil that needs him and Jor El tells him to go home and deal with Kara so he's reduced to monitoring Corn Festival beauty contests and mooning once again over Lana. They can't get Clark off the farm because he'd have to become SM. They are just going to turn S7 into a soap opera "As Krypton turns". It's getting inane and it needs to end if they are not going to let Clark become Superman. What a shame. I was so glad to be past the Freak of the Week nonsense and it's back because the writers are not being allowed to continue to advance the character of CK.

I couldn't agree more...I really, really hope they end it this season...but they probably would've announced that by now if it were the case. I think even this season will be quite a drag but they can still exit semi-gracefully in the next 20ish episodes

[Red-Kryptonite1025]

Don't go saying it should end just yet, there have been shows that have been pulled out of a hell of a lot worse. The writers just need to crack down and play their cards right and they could pull of a ton of good storylines to bring the show into the light again.

[98chase]

Originally posted by Red-Kryptonite1025
Don't go saying it should end just yet, there have been shows that have been pulled out of a hell of a lot worse. The writers just need to crack down and play their cards right and they could pull of a ton of good storylines to bring the show into the light again.
+1
I'm not saying that it will happen, but it is definitely a possibility. Although, I don't necessarily think that the story lines are as bad as others do. I personally like the story lines as of late better than the same old, boring FOTW junk at the beginning of the series.

[monet]

I really think that Smallville is going down the drain. If they want to keep Clark in Smallville that's fine but do it smarter than that. They need to send him to his training, bring him back to Smallville and make him use his new found trick he learned from Jor-el and make the battles he face further away from home (like towards Metropolis). This way Lana will realize that Clark's destiny is more that playing home and she will sacrifice her happiness for the world. This way she would actually look like a heroine instead of some bimbo who's life resorts around men.

And during this season just give Lana and Clark a normal relationship and stop with all the stupid garbage. She knows his powers now they shouldn't be anymore problems.


And who the hell is this new kryptonian on earth now? I can't remember reading any kryton hiding on earth in the comic books.
Boy can they drag out a picture on nonsense!!!!

[Smit6178]

Is it true that they originally announced the show would follow a 5-year plan? Someone told me that and I did see a quote from Jeph Loeb mentioning there was a five-year plan. Season six and season seven so far feel like the writers are just dragging it out. Plus Gough and Millar HAVE constantly changed their stance on when the show will end over the past few years.

[JudasAce]

Originally posted by Smit6178
Is it true that they originally announced the show would follow a 5-year plan? Someone told me that and I did see a quote from Jeph Loeb mentioning there was a five-year plan. Season six and season seven so far feel like the writers are just dragging it out. Plus Gough and Millar HAVE constantly changed their stance on when the show will end over the past few years.

Yes it's true. I believe it's said in the DVD commentary for the pilot, right at the scene near the end where Clark and Jonathan are in the barn and Clark says "Can I answer that in about five years?"

[Smit6178]

Originally posted by JudasAce
Yes it's true. I believe it's said in the DVD commentary for the pilot, right at the scene near the end where Clark and Jonathan are in the barn and Clark says "Can I answer that in about five years?"

Oh, yes. They said it was an inside joke. Though after episode 100 I figured that could've been what they meant and not the end of the show itself. I listened to it again recently and I could have sworn I heard them mutter "100 episodes." lol but I may have just been hearing things.

[biggkoz]

If this show goes on any longer than 7 seasons everything thats happen up to now will all be worthless after the show is ruined.

[galatians221]

The thing that tips me off that it's winding down is their bringing back the Green Arrow and now Brainiac after Jor El has already stated that the brain interactive construct has been destroyed along with all copies. They're bringing him back anyway. We have the Green Arrow, The Flash, Aquaman, Victor, Martian Manhunter and now Kara along with freaks of the weak and the net effect is that Clark Kent is nothing special; he's just one of many weirdos and the uniqueness of Superman has been diluted. I am not a fan of the comic books, I grew up with the George Reeves TV show and Superman was presented as an "amazing visitor from an unknown planet who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men" Now he's just one of the freaks.

[STFanatic]

Exactly, Clark/Kal-el was supposed to be special, the one that started it all by inspiring others with special abilities and talents to take up the cause, but this version of Clark/Kal-el is the one all the others are trying to convince to become a "hero".
But he just can't leave his loved ones behind, so he just hangs around the farm waiting for things to happen in his back yard.
George Reeves would be sorely disappointed in his predecessor.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by galatians221
The thing that tips me off that it's winding down is their bringing back the Green Arrow and now Brainiac after Jor El has already stated that the brain interactive construct has been destroyed along with all copies. They're bringing him back anyway. We have the Green Arrow, The Flash, Aquaman, Victor, Martian Manhunter and now Kara along with freaks of the weak and the net effect is that Clark Kent is nothing special; he's just one of many weirdos and the uniqueness of Superman has been diluted. I am not a fan of the comic books, I grew up with the George Reeves TV show and Superman was presented as an "amazing visitor from an unknown planet who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men" Now he's just one of the freaks.

But it's been like that since day one. A new freak every week.

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Malicieux Toutou
But it's been like that since day one. A new freak every week.

Yes but we seemed to get away from it and Clark seemed to be speeding towards his destiny telling Martha that he's tired of running (not flying?) and just in Bizarre this season he was really functioning as Superman. They tease us and then back off and revert to nonsensical stuff. It could be so great and that is frustrating.

The other thing is that Jonathan is dead, Martha is gone and has been written out of the show and he has already arranged for Ben to manage the farm and now he's back there with Lana cooling his heels and Jor El after screaming at him "You MUST complete your training" and taking away his powers for not returning in time and now he tells him to hit the road and wait until he deals with Kara. It's too shaky.

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Red-Kryptonite1025
Don't go saying it should end just yet, there have been shows that have been pulled out of a hell of a lot worse. The writers just need to crack down and play their cards right and they could pull of a ton of good storylines to bring the show into the light again.

That may be but you're missing the bigger point that Clark's character is stuck and in fact going backwards. He's not getting closer to being Superman he's just back on the farm with two girls living with him which should cause a scandal in a small farming community. It's very silly. Lana doesn't want Chloe to know she's back so she hides in a place where Choe pops in about every other day. Silly.

[Cryptic16]

Lana and Clark have a much deeper relationship now. Lana knows about Clark's abilities, which further deepens the bond. It's not the same show that we saw 7 years ago. It much more intense. Sure, things may look the same but it certainly is not the same. I don't think that Lana and Clark will develop into anything more than friends. But, of course I don't know. I think that SV has gained momentum. It's becoming the Superman phenomenon that we all know and love.

[Mello Penelo]

Smallville should have ended at the end of season 4. Not because it was going downhill, but because Clark should have left Smallville permanently for Metropolis.

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Cryptic16
Lana and Clark have a much deeper relationship now. Lana knows about Clark's abilities, which further deepens the bond. It's not the same show that we saw 7 years ago. It much more intense. Sure, things may look the same but it certainly is not the same. I don't think that Lana and Clark will develop into anything more than friends. But, of course I don't know. I think that SV has gained momentum. It's becoming the Superman phenomenon that we all know and love.

I disagree. Oliver slammed Clark by telling him to get off his butt and off the farm and that there is a whole world that needs him but he's hanging around the farm all ga ga over Lana - that is selfish and his excuses about having to take care of the phantoms is no longer valid, although they'll bring back Bizarro just to keep dragging it out longer, as if Superman can't handle it, it has to be done by farmboy Clark Kent.

[Jules26]

Originally posted by paolinki25
The thing is they keep coming back to a relationship that has been pretty badly damaged. Now, 7 seasons later, it's just beyond repair. Clark needs to put an end to this chapter of his life and move on to the things he's supposed to be doing right now. He's not a high school boy anymore.


I agree, too many things are getting old. Make the boy a man already....

[xO Mrs.Welling Ox]

I HOPE THIS ISN'T THE LAST SEASON!!!!

[galatians221]

Originally posted by xO Mrs.Welling Ox
I HOPE THIS ISN'T THE LAST SEASON!!!!

I hope so too but they have to advance the character of Clark Kent and not have him on the farm. He has to become Superman or they will continue to ruin the show. There is nothing left for him to do but become Superman. If they ended it this season they could come out with a new show next season called Metropolis and it would take place perhaps ten years later when Superman is 30 and Lois Lane is entrenched as the star of the DP and then we can see the continued story of Clark Kent done right. It has never been done right imho.

[Smit6178]

Originally posted by galatians221
I hope so too but they have to advance the character of Clark Kent and not have him on the farm. He has to become Superman or they will continue to ruin the show. There is nothing left for him to do but become Superman. If they ended it this season they could come out with a new show next season called Metropolis and it would take place perhaps ten years later when Superman is 30 and Lois Lane is entrenched as the star of the DP and then we can see the continued story of Clark Kent done right. It has never been done right imho.

The thing is, Welling doesn't want to be Superman. He doesn't want to wear the suit. Part of what pursuaded him to do Smallville in the first place was the assurance that he wouldn't have to don the tights. He thinks it would kill his film career (let's see how that progresses over the years). Besides, I doubt anyone would go for a spin-off about life in Metropolis. Once Clark accepts his destiny, the show is over and that's why they are dragging things out like they are.

[M4nfr3]

Originally posted by Clana4Life
They can't take him out of Smallville, that would end the show, so I guess they are doing the best they can.

Agree!!:D:D

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by galatians221
The writers obviously have hit a brick wall. They can't help but bring Lana and Clark back together because it is past time for Clark to be trained and fulfill his destiny.

The writers only write the Clana because TPTB demand it. The only person who was able to write Clana consistently, liked it and made the Clana make sense was Steven DeKnight. He's gone from the show.

[operadiva]

Steven DeKnight...i guess he knew that the show was going down hill with Clana **** fest so he bailed..Can't blame the poor man...

[M4nfr3]

NO MORE CLANAAAAA!!!

WHO IS WITH ME??

[Mello Penelo]

Almost everyone is with you, but there's not a whole lot we can do about it.

[operadiva]

I am...Yea..NO more Clana...oops i just said a dirty word...LOL

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by operadiva
Steven DeKnight...i guess he knew that the show was going down hill with Clana **** fest so he bailed..Can't blame the poor man...

Yeah, he wrote the stuff like the oak tree and the leaky pipes. That was good stuff. But it's been horrible for a long time.


Originally posted by operadiva
I am...Yea..NO more Clana...oops i just said a dirty word...LOL

Lana-- just another four-letter word. :lol:

[operadiva]

You are funny....Laughed my ass off

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by M4nfr3
NO MORE CLANAAAAA!!!

WHO IS WITH ME??

:) MEEE!, like most of people;)
If this whole 7 season is agaaain... about lana or worst: Clana:rolleyes: then we can say godbye to Smallville :)

[Zeburial]

Why the hate!?!? :( I get so sad to watch all this hate threads. everyone is like: omg! no more clana! It destroys Smallville!
Lana is a Slut.. and so on. :(

Its just sad.

[galatians221]

Originally posted by Smit6178
The thing is, Welling doesn't want to be Superman. He doesn't want to wear the suit. Part of what pursuaded him to do Smallville in the first place was the assurance that he wouldn't have to don the tights. He thinks it would kill his film career (let's see how that progresses over the years). Besides, I doubt anyone would go for a spin-off about life in Metropolis. Once Clark accepts his destiny, the show is over and that's why they are dragging things out like they are.

Yeah, that's some film career. He wouldn't want perhaps $20 million for another four years as Superman because it will hurt his box office draw. Right.

[STFanatic]

Everyone on the series are already type cast.
I was just watching a C.S.I. episode with Sam Jones III (Pete Ross), and every time I saw him I thought "There is Pete".
And the other day I watched Kyle Gallner as a sex addict on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.
All I saw him as was "The Flash / Impulse".
If an actor is lucky or good enough, the next series they are in people will forget the type casted role.
It took most of the first season of Star Trek: Enterprise for me to stop thinking of Captain Archer as Sam from Quantum Leap. :P

[xaosthry]

I have a question, how mad is his neighbor Ben at him by now? This is how many times that he said that Ben would be taking over the farm, yet he still stays. If I was Ben I'd find other land.

[Clark Jr. the great]

Originally posted by paolinki25
The thing is they keep coming back to a relationship that has been pretty badly damaged. Now, 7 seasons later, it's just beyond repair. Clark needs to put an end to this chapter of his life and move on to the things he's supposed to be doing right now. He's not a high school boy anymore.

You hit the nail right there. Clark in the end will do this but not right now. He is the hero yet he is also a flawed character. Thats one of the best things about clark. Many of us in real life act this way in relationships and learn not to make mistakes like these. Obsesing is not the right thing. Just because clark is going to be superman does not mean that he should not get the type of life and problems that we face.

Clark has emotions and strong feeling for lana and that is just normal. He will learn that things wont run in the end. In my opinion Clarks lifestyle can only be handled by a female kryptonian. Humans just cant understand, maybe not even Lois at this point.