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Mr. Clark Kent27
10-11-2007, 08:21 PM
When she pulled the rocks from out of the street, how did she know it would hurt him?
Azurewrath
10-11-2007, 08:23 PM
She didn't. There's kryptonite all over the place due to meteor showers.
bobowayney
10-11-2007, 08:38 PM
the fact Clark was gasping and on his back, Eva probably thought it was the attack made by their powers that hurt Clark, not the kryptonite
Azurewrath
10-11-2007, 08:39 PM
^I thought that was pretty much a given. ;D
RKryp
10-11-2007, 09:45 PM
I agree with the replies here.
More interesting to me is how Kara figured out to do something about the Kryptonite from a distance, when she destroyed it with her heat vision.
After all, Clark hasn't been able to realize that he could do that in six plus seasons.
closetclana
10-11-2007, 10:15 PM
^ I agree. How does Clark go anywhere in SV if there are Kryptonite rocks just a few feet underground everywhere? It was a little too convenient (again). I think the scene could have been written w/o the K and still could have gotten to the same result.
KryptoKnight
10-11-2007, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Kii
That scene was stupid.
Couldn't agree more. Not only was it a coincidence that there was Kryptonite under the asphalt but the asphalt is not going to be thick enough to block its harmful rays so Clark should have been affected when he got within a few feet of that spot IMHO
mariolegosu
10-11-2007, 10:21 PM
I think there is just WAY too much Kryptonite in Smallville. I understand there were 2 meteor showers and whatnot, but boy it's freaking everywhere! How the hell did the Kryptonite get under that box? Wasn't that box burried like a century ago? There is just way too much Kryptonite on this show.
TampaVille
10-11-2007, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Kii
That scene was stupid.
Agreed. The whole episode stank of Season 1. A couple throwaway villains + conveniently placed kryptonite leave Clark at a disadvantage long enough for an action sequence.
There's also the fact that Clark had more than enough time just to run away from the meteor rock mini-tornado. The moment he saw the kryptonite, he could have gotten out of its way. He didn't have to stand there and let her hit him with it.
Also (and this is a really minor point I admit), didn't the episode Onyx establish that Clark's heat vision turns green-K into black-K?
moviefan2k4
10-11-2007, 10:43 PM
Clark has learned to control his heat-vision; as a result, he can focus it for certain situations (lighting a candle, melting a bullet, etc.) Meanwhile, Kara's in a different position. Having never learned to control her powers (as demonstrated by the exploding watermelon scene), the heat-vision was more like an atom bomb. Instead of altering the Kryptonite, we could always theorize that it was "too much at once", thus shattering it.
ibecj83
10-11-2007, 10:45 PM
Yah he definitely could have gotten the hell out of there, lol. And I was thinking the same thing about green-k into black-k.
But that didn't really bother me because I figured it was different heat visions. Clark's was more controlled, focused, perhaps a slower infusion of heat -> he was trying to turn it into black kryptonite.
Kara was just trying to blow it up, *oh man the watermellon..haha...she was lucky Clark didn't get kryptonite splinters....*ahhh, kara damn it you got some in my eye*. LOL.
It was completely unnecessary for Kara to show up and save Clark. It just didn't make any sense for the scene at the jail with Clark telling Kara to stay there until Chloe gets her out the 'legal way.' Then proceed to break out and save Clark, it creates yet another plot hole.
TampaVille
10-11-2007, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Kii
It was completely unnecessary for Kara to show up and save Clark. It just didn't make any sense for the scene at the jail with Clark telling Kara to stay there until Chloe gets her out the 'legal way.' Then proceed to break out and save Clark, it creates yet another plot hole.
I'm a little confused by what you think was a plothole? Clark is a by-the-books fellow. Supes gets called a boyscout all the time. He'd be adamently against Kara breaking out of jail, so he told her to stay.
Kara ignored him though. That's not a hole in the plot. That's Kara ignoring Clark's advice, just like she ignored him when he told her not to enter the beauty contest. They even addressed the issue when Kara said, "I'm sorry I didn't listen to you," about staying in jail, and Clark replied, "I'm glad you didn't listen. You saved my life."
Originally posted by ibecj83
ahhh, kara damn it you got some in my eye*. LOL.
LOL
tfkfan44
10-11-2007, 11:12 PM
krytponite as been shown to have been on earth before the meteor shower, such as the krytponite mask in china protecting one of the stones.
TampaVille
10-11-2007, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by tfkfan44
krytponite as been shown to have been on earth before the meteor shower, such as the krytponite mask in china protecting one of the stones.
Yes, that is true. I'm unclear on why you point it out though. Were you replying to my post? If so, I don't see the connection.
KryptoKnight
10-11-2007, 11:24 PM
I cracked up over a couple things in this scene
1) Clark has enough strength to roll a little on his side so what does he do? He rolls towards the kryptonite instead of away from it.
2) He tells Kara in a normal tone to stay away because the kryptonite can kill her and then grimaces after saying that as though it was queued.
:)
hemmy
10-11-2007, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by RKryp
I agree with the replies here.
More interesting to me is how Kara figured out to do something about the Kryptonite from a distance, when she destroyed it with her heat vision.
After all, Clark hasn't been able to realize that he could do that in six plus seasons.
Well, in Onyx when he heats green kryptonite it turns black
Originally posted by TampaVille
I'm a little confused by what you think was a plothole? Clark is a by-the-books fellow. Supes gets called a boyscout all the time. He'd be adamently against Kara breaking out of jail, so he told her to stay.
Kara ignored him though. That's not a hole in the plot. That's Kara ignoring Clark's advice, just like she ignored him when he told her not to enter the beauty contest. They even addressed the issue when Kara said, "I'm sorry I didn't listen to you," about staying in jail, and Clark replied, "I'm glad you didn't listen. You saved my life."
Sorry for not being specific, by plot hole I meant the repercussions of Kara escaping from jail.
TampaVille
10-12-2007, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Kii
Sorry for not being specific, by plot hole I meant the repercussions of Kara escaping from jail.
Thank you for clarifying, but I must admit I still don't understand what you mean. How do you see that as a hole in the story's plot?
JudasAce
10-12-2007, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by hemmy
Well, in Onyx when he heats green kryptonite it turns black
This is what I was going to say. Heating the green K like that should have turned it black and split Clark into good and evil.
They should have paid attention to their own lore, and instead given Kara super breath this episode so she could just blow the Kryptonite away.
TampaVille
10-12-2007, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by JudasAce
This is what I was going to say. Heating the green K like that should have turned it black and split Clark into good and evil.
They should have paid attention to their own lore, and instead given Kara super breath this episode so she could just blow the Kryptonite away.
You know, I said the same thing on another thread, and somebody pointed out a possible explanation, which I'll expand upon here. Consider the watermelon incident from earlier in the episode. Clark had the experience to focus his heat vision and use it with dexterity. Kara couldn't control her power, and it just surged out, demolishing the watermelon.
Perhaps we can draw an analogy. When Clark used his heat vision to turn Lex's green-K ring into black kryptonite, he had experience and was able to focus his power. Perhaps Kara, lacking that focus, just surged energy into the rock, too much energy for the lump to sustain, causing it to explode like it did.
Another possibility to help account for the difference is the fact that Lex's ring was made from refined kryptonite. This chunk was just a straight out of the ground (literally as it happens) piece of kryptonite. It was all mixed up with normal rock. Shine a laser or a light through a refined and cut diamond, and it will behave one way. Try shining it through a diamond straight out of the ground, and it will behave in quite a different manner. The same principle should hold here as well.
samanta
10-12-2007, 05:42 AM
It was stupid scene.
How could Clark survive in Smallville if there lay on streets meteor rocks?
last man of krypton
10-12-2007, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by TampaVille
Also (and this is a really minor point I admit), didn't the episode Onyx establish that Clark's heat vision turns green-K into black-K?
That's a good point, that didn't even occur to me. :o
I was just thinking how lucky it was that despite Kryptonite exploding right next to him, that not a single shard hit any part of his body. (Kryptonite splinters never work out to well... ;))
TampaVille
10-12-2007, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by last man of krypton
That's a good point, that didn't even occur to me. :o
I was just thinking how lucky it was that despite Kryptonite exploding right next to him, that not a single shard hit any part of his body. (Kryptonite splinters never work out to well... ;))
Haha, you've a good point there yourself. The exploding kryptonite is definitely a potential trouble item... remember how in chemistry in high school, you'd have to stay in the back of the room when the professor just blew up normal old sodium??? :)
Regarding the green to black K transformation, I've had my mind changed about whether that should have happened since I initially posted with it as a complaint. I retract my minor disconcertion.
hanemg
10-12-2007, 07:44 AM
Another problem the writers over looked is the fact that historically speaking Kryptonite is at best heat-proof and at worst heat resistant. This started in the comics years ago to justify Kryptonite as a viable threat so:
1) Superman couldn't easily do what Kara did everytime he encountered it, and
2) To explain how so much Kyptonite survived intact on the Earth's surface rether than burning up on entering the atmosphere like 90% of all meteors.
Of course SV has ignored this for years as they have shown rocks melted down in previous episodes for a variety of reasons.
jimmyolsenblues
10-12-2007, 07:47 AM
I don't think the bad girl knew about the kryponite. I think the bad girl just had command of earth, like she could make a tornado of earth and hit people with it.
The bad girl got lucky that there was so much kryponite in that one spot.
It amazes how much kryptonite exists in smallville. Almost like all of krypton is in smallville ground.
superhippie2000
10-12-2007, 08:21 AM
ya she didnt know about the green k she thought he was just another freak or motal and attacked him with asphalt.
VAMPIREJUWELL
10-12-2007, 08:57 AM
Ok, she didn't know that's a giving, but maybe the reason why Clark can't use his heat beams is because the Kryptonite might render him helpless, and not be able to use any of his powers, has anybody thought about that. Remember in Superman 2, when he had the Kryptonite around his neck well even before than, when Lex pulled the Kryptonite out, and showed it to him, if it was that easy to blow it up with his heat vision he would of done it then, and the seen when we was in the water with the Kryptonite around his neck he couldn't do anything he couldn't even fly. So Kryptionite takes all of his powers, strength, Eyes, healing ability everything.
Originally posted by TampaVille
Thank you for clarifying, but I must admit I still don't understand what you mean. How do you see that as a hole in the story's plot?
Well, I doubt 'Cure' is going to address Kara's legal troubles. If it does, hats off. I just expect the writers to drop that very small storyline.
RKryp
10-12-2007, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by TampaVille
I'm a little confused by what you think was a plothole? Clark is a by-the-books fellow. Supes gets called a boyscout all the time. He'd be adamently against Kara breaking out of jail, so he told her to stay.
Kara ignored him though. That's not a hole in the plot. That's Kara ignoring Clark's advice, just like she ignored him when he told her not to enter the beauty contest. They even addressed the issue when Kara said, "I'm sorry I didn't listen to you," about staying in jail, and Clark replied, "I'm glad you didn't listen. You saved my life."
LOL
My interpretation is different, but maybe I missed it. Was it stated that Kara broke out?
I just assumed that bail for Kara was posted. This is a small town. Chloe probably knows the judge and even where he/she lives.
I also interpreted Kara's apology as merely recognizing that Clark had been correct about the need to stay low-profile.
Good point about the heat vision turning green k into black...I had forgotten. But I am tired of Clark being too stupid to learn to speed away, use super-breath as someone suggested, or come up with some strategy. Kara acted vs. Clark just acting helpless all too often.
It is amazing, though, how much kryptonite there is. I think it must be alive and follow Clark around.
TampaVille
10-12-2007, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Kii
Well, I doubt 'Cure' is going to address Kara's legal troubles. If it does, hats off. I just expect the writers to drop that very small storyline.
Ah, I see. I think we're supposed to assume that when the two weather girls were arrested, they took the blame for her stealing the map (which is ironic in at least a couple different ways). Chloe had a good amount of evidence against them. Kara could have even returned to her cell, probably without anyone the wiser.
But yes, I agree we will probably not hear about her incarceration ever again.
smallvillecrazygurl04
10-13-2007, 04:21 PM
she didn't know, the meteor rocks were all underground and when she used her abilities, the ground ended up breaking and all of the meteor rocks just scattered all around him.
Jules26
10-16-2007, 11:55 AM
I say from Shelby....There's just something I don't trust about that dog....
On the other hand, who in Smallville doesn't know.
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