"...Isn't the Lana who returned..." What?

[Ardiem3]

From last weeks preview for this episode, it made it appear that Lana was either going to be a) in fact the clone, or b) just a more evil type of Lana. Where was the scene where she hugged Clark in his home and she looks up in suspicion? They also cut the scene where Lana was sitting at a computer, assumably downloading some software or information to get Lex's 10 million. I liked how she played out in the episode, i just didnt see where the whole "The Lana who left, isnt the Lana who returned" came about in the episode? What do you guys think? Why put scenes in a trailer if they arent in the final cut especially if it sounds like its a different plot then what airs?

[Zac Reynolds]

I totally agree, I think they cut that scene out like they do with lots of the episodes. They will show one thing in the preview then it won't be in the episode! Example: the "Bizarro" trailer showed Bizarro choking Clark, but it was never aired!

[IvanDA]

Exactly what I was going to say? That sucks. I thought there was gonig to be some sort of revelation about Lana.

And on a side not I noticed in the pictures that Kara was wearing like a super girl sort of costume with a cape. Did they show that in the pageant?

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by Zac Reynolds
I totally agree, I think they cut that scene out like they do with lots of the episodes. They will show one thing in the preview then it won't be in the episode! Example: the "Bizarro" trailer showed Bizarro choking Clark, but it was never aired!

Seriously...! Oh yea, i was so looking forward to the choking Clark scene in "Bizarro" also : ( but nothing.. Hopefully it will return when Bizarro returns later this season but i doubt it...

[luvinChlark]

I know! Thats what bothered me the most, all they do is tell/show lies..

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by IvanDA
Exactly what I was going to say? That sucks. I thought there was gonig to be some sort of revelation about Lana.

And on a side not I noticed in the pictures that Kara was wearing like a super girl sort of costume with a cape. Did they show that in the pageant?

I didnt notice the picture! Was it hanging by hier mirror when she was sitting in the dressing room?

[superspider02]

scenes tend to get cut all the time for episodes either due to time/content/ or other reasons unknown. that is the plus side of dvd sets we get to see what was cut.

[LKent113]

I think they include parts of scenes in the previews that they cut out in the show to throw us off. There were some parts missing from the preview that really would have threw Lana's return throw the roof. I like the way it went though...simple enough, they didnt make her reunion with clark sappy or cheesy. It worked

[Zac Reynolds]

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Originally posted by Zac Reynolds
I totally agree, I think they cut that scene out like they do with lots of the episodes. They will show one thing in the preview then it won't be in the episode! Example: the "Bizarro" trailer showed Bizarro choking Clark, but it was never aired!
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Seriously...! Oh yea, i was so looking forward to the choking Clark scene in "Bizarro" also : ( but nothing.. Hopefully it will return when Bizarro returns later this season but i doubt it...


It will probably be on the dvd set. So only a year to wait!.........:(

[jazel]

My brother thinks Lana as we saw her, is the clone.

[CrazyforKal]

I never took the whole "the Lana who returns isn't the same..." to be addressed in this ep. I think it sets Lana's character up for this season. I think her darkness will unfold as the eps progress.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by jazel
My brother thinks Lana as we saw her, is the clone.

Could be, but why would the Lana clone speak to Lex that way?

[jazel]

not even gonna try to gage how clones operate, but I would think Lana's memories and feelings, would be experienced by the clone as well.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Could be, but why would the Lana clone speak to Lex that way?

Because the real Lana is controlling the clone.:eek:

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by myankskent
Because the real Lana is controlling the clone.:eek:

Hmm...Maybe.We can add mad scientist to Lana's personalities. :lol:

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by myankskent
Because the real Lana is controlling the clone.:eek:

no because it's really chloe in a lana suit. gosh can't you all see what's right in front of your faces;)

[Kid Collins]

If this ep doesn't kill the Clone theory, I don't know what to think.

But knowing some people it won't stop them from shoving their theory in my face.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by thehenry89
no because it's really chloe in a lana suit. gosh can't you all see what's right in front of your faces;)

Oh...that's right. Chloe is wearing the Lana suit and Lana is wearing the Shelby suit. So now the question that I have is...where the hell is the real Shelby?

[IvanDA]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
I didnt notice the picture! Was it hanging by hier mirror when she was sitting in the dressing room?

No I meant from the images online. It looked like a scene from the pageant with her wearing the costume

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by myankskent
.where the hell is the real Shelby?

Didn't you hear? LanaClone eats dogs instead of frogs.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Didn't you hear? LanaClone eats dogs instead of frogs.

:rotfl: oh my zod you guys are too much.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
From last weeks preview for this episode, it made it appear that Lana was either going to be a) in fact the clone, or b) just a more evil type of Lana. Where was the scene where she hugged Clark in his home and she looks up in suspicion? They also cut the scene where Lana was sitting at a computer, assumably downloading some software or information to get Lex's 10 million. I liked how she played out in the episode, i just didnt see where the whole "The Lana who left, isnt the Lana who returned" came about in the episode? What do you guys think? Why put scenes in a trailer if they arent in the final cut especially if it sounds like its a different plot then what airs? No doubt! What a bunch of crap. The producers just seriously screwed up by showing Fierce trailer then nothing. Oh gee wiz beave, this show is a goner. They just made the show the worst ever in the history of shows. What a shame.

[closetclana]

I agree with OP. Evil Lana where are you? This sunny, angelic Lana wearing white with golden light shinning on her face isn't nearly as interesting. But will it last?

[chantal]

Originally posted by IvanDA
Exactly what I was going to say? That sucks. I thought there was gonig to be some sort of revelation about Lana.

And on a side not I noticed in the pictures that Kara was wearing like a super girl sort of costume with a cape. Did they show that in the pageant?

That was probably from the "talent" portion of the pageant. No, they didn't show any of the pageant except the bikini portion. What a surprise that they would leave that in! Do you suppose that her talent was flying?

[Minela]

The Lana that left was an evil Lana, now they are trying to convince us that Lana is a good girl. Notice the lack of black in her clothing, the lemonade, the scenes where she is bathed in warm light, her OOC behaviour as she is giving Clark advice, her baking apple pie for Clark...

*excuse me while I throw up*

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by Minela
The Lana that left was an evil Lana, now they are trying to convince us that Lana is a good girl. Notice the lack of black in her clothing, the lemonade, the scenes where she is bathed in warm light, her OOC behaviour as she is giving Clark advice, her baking apple pie for Clark...

*excuse me while I throw up*

Ohhh so they made it seem like she was either evil or the clone to get our attention just to have her be all "little miss sunshine," i get it!

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by litew8
No doubt! What a bunch of crap. The producers just seriously screwed up by showing Fierce trailer then nothing. Oh gee wiz beave, this show is a goner. They just made the show the worst ever in the history of shows. What a shame.

It's called a misleading trailer which CW does all the time.

Just like they include scenes in there that never make it to the actual ep.

[ginnyfan]

Hey! Maybe that's a clip from a later episode. The clone isn't dead! Maybe there will be a fight between Lana and her clone and... we won't know who survives.

Clones are silly. LOL! Where's the Justice League or a Zoner or something?

[Superbeard]

From the very beginning Smallville has been renowned for deceiving trailers.

They're vague allusions, not to-a-T roadmaps, I thought we'd all realized this by now...

[SVfanGirl]

Maybe Lana is a clone and Clark can tell and that's why Clark didn't really respond to her, like kissing her, etc. after seeing her for the first time after he thought she was dead!

[Ares]

Yeah I was curious about that as well.. I really do hope the Lana that we see now isnt going to turn into a Clone.. Cuz that would just be too much.. I just want to see what kind of pie shes going to bake next week.

[STFanatic]

They also removed part of the Kara to Clark speech, did Kara not say "They will grow old and die"...

[MaleMan]

My theory, the Lana that came back is indeed the clone. That's probably how the Clark-Lana relationship is going to end this time, with the revelation that she's the clone.

Sort of like, in the 90's Spiderman cartoon series on Fox. Mary Jane got sent to an alternate dimension, a cloned Mary Jane comes back.

Either that, or they really did screw up with the preview.

[litew8]

She's for sure a clone.
They for sure screwed over the clone fans.
Chloe for sure will become our Hero and expose the Lana clone.

[All about Clark]

Being that Lana knew stuff she had lived through while the clone was lying on a rack at the damn, this can't be the clone. I think TPTB intent is to show that Lana has really changed from the sweet girl next door, to a girl damaged by Lex. It's only a matter of time, like when Clark and her disaggree on something, we'll see the change.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Originally posted by jazel
My brother thinks Lana as we saw her, is the clone.


That's a good observation and I would agree, it could be that the Lana we did see was in fact a Clone and that Lana is somewhere out there, still hiding and whatnot. However, we can't be sure about that because it could either be that it is the Clone or that it's the real thing.

But that's a good point you made.

[Jules26]

Looks like the same old Lana to me. Boring and Blah


Originally posted by IvanDA
Exactly what I was going to say? That sucks. I thought there was gonig to be some sort of revelation about Lana.

And on a side not I noticed in the pictures that Kara was wearing like a super girl sort of costume with a cape. Did they show that in the pageant?

I wondered the same thing. I did see it.

Oops I meant didn't see it..My bad:o

[Eeyore840]

Originally posted by Minela
The Lana that left was an evil Lana, now they are trying to convince us that Lana is a good girl. Notice the lack of black in her clothing, the lemonade, the scenes where she is bathed in warm light, her OOC behaviour as she is giving Clark advice, her baking apple pie for Clark...

*excuse me while I throw up*

Better make it quick, because I'm right behind you...

[Serynarpc]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
From last weeks preview for this episode, it made it appear that Lana was either going to be a) in fact the clone, or b) just a more evil type of Lana. Where was the scene where she hugged Clark in his home and she looks up in suspicion? They also cut the scene where Lana was sitting at a computer, assumably downloading some software or information to get Lex's 10 million. I liked how she played out in the episode, i just didnt see where the whole "The Lana who left, isnt the Lana who returned" came about in the episode? What do you guys think? Why put scenes in a trailer if they arent in the final cut especially if it sounds like its a different plot then what airs?

They used an interesting insinuation to make us tune in- than proceeded to give us cavities from the Perfect Pink Princesses' sweetness.

[chantal]

I think the "Lana who returned" should have the nickname "Splenda-girl" in reference to the new artificial sweetener. Which apparently is as hazardous to your health as all the other artificial sweeteners.

[Serynarpc]

Originally posted by chantal
I think the "Lana who returned" should have the nickname "Splenda-girl" in reference to the new artificial sweetener. Which apparently is as hazardous to your health as all the other artificial sweeteners.

Hear hear.

'Splenda' - may cause irrational behavior, excessive brooding and manifest the urge to declare a former friend (and rival for Splenda's affection) your Nemesis so that Splenda only sweetens one person's coffee!

War (for Splenda's affection) is about to begin! :lol:

[aXem]

I hope they don't go with this clone nonsense.

There's been enough tangents already

[Chesay]

I've wondered if the "new" Lana might be the clone, especially since they keep emphasizing the "crime" committed. I don't think killing the clone, which supposedly was not alive yet, would be a crime. I also don't think Lana taking Lex's money was necessarily a crime. Deceitful, perhaps, but supposedly the money belongs to both of them now that they are married. Isn't that what Lex said to her when she got back from Amsterdam? Because her response was "think of all the good that we can do with it".

Sometimes they try too hard to make the story complex and hard to follow in the hope that the viewer will get lost and miss the glaring lack of continuity. The master of misdirection was Alfred Hitchcock and the writers could take a few lessons from him.

[litew8]

^
bravo

[KristinKrazy]

yeah, I mean initially I thought it meant that somehow another clone was the one who came back but then I realized maybe TPTB were trying to tease and say "uh well it's the regular Lana that has become a little Lex-like" but oh well :o :rolleyes: :)

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
the whole "The Lana who left, isnt the Lana who returned" came about in the episode?

I hope you're not taking this literally. That statement means that Lana has changed a great deal and she's coming back to Smallville having done very questionable things (pretty much a crime).


Originally posted by Chesay
I've wondered if the "new" Lana might be the clone, especially since they keep emphasizing the "crime" committed. I don't think killing the clone, which supposedly was not alive yet, would be a crime. I also don't think Lana taking Lex's money was necessarily a crime. Deceitful, perhaps, but supposedly the money belongs to both of them now that they are married. Isn't that what Lex said to her when she got back from Amsterdam? Because her response was "think of all the good that we can do with it".

Sometimes they try too hard to make the story complex and hard to follow in the hope that the viewer will get lost and miss the glaring lack of continuity. The master of misdirection was Alfred Hitchcock and the writers could take a few lessons from him.

Well, remember that runaway bride thing that happened a few years ago in the US? That was a crime (they wanted her to pay the money spent on trying to track her down), so this would be much worse since officially (to the govt) Lex is not a criminal and Lana framing her husband for a murder that was never committed is a crime.

I'm surprised that Clark didn't object to this. She flat out told him that she committed a crime. I'm surprised he didn't question her.

[Sweetie]

I think her behaviors were so weird,acting like miss perfect...(bucket please):o


I really felt that something was defenetly wrong with her.She's probably a clone and the real Lana had kidnapped Lionel to find out what he is hiding about Clark.Just a theory!

[Ardiem3]

But didnt we see the clone get blown up along with Lana's SUV. Slow motion the scene and you can clearly see a body.

[STFanatic]

But that was a failed clone, perhaps there was a completed model.
Other wise why would Lex want to know where it escaped to.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by STFanatic
But that was a failed clone, perhaps there was a completed model.
Other wise why would Lex want to know where it escaped to.

Lex never said that. All he wanted to know was the status of the project now that the clone was blown up. I doubt the writers would write 2 clones into the story haha.

[Sweetie]

Well,then Lana is playing house to fool Clark again?Well,if she's the real Lana as soon as Clark find out, their relationship will be over for good :cool:

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by Sweetie
Well,then Lana is playing house to fool Clark again?Well,if she's the real Lana as soon as Clark find out, their relationship will be over for good :cool:

I think its the real Lana with a hidden agenda possibly for after all, dosent almost everyone on the show have a hidden agenda for their own gain?

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Lex never said that. All he wanted to know was the status of the project now that the clone was blown up. I doubt the writers would write 2 clones into the story haha.

You are talking about the Smallville writers. Right?

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by STFanatic
You are talking about the Smallville writers. Right?

Yea, i dont think theyd even go that far.. Every show has hits and misses with episodes, but 2 clones.. come on..

[xrayvision]

Like I said, the "Lana who left isn't the one who returned" shouldn't be taken literally. There is only 1 Lana now, and it's the original. Having another clone would be too messy and would hurt the show a lot. They did this with Spider-Man in the comics. When his clone Ben Reilly returned (after Peter disposed of the clone's corpse in a factory smokestack), they wrote the comics so that the Spider-Man who had been present all that time was the clone and Ben Reilly was the original. Then people got pissed off (like myself) and left the Spider-Man books. They later confirmed that Ben Reilly was always the clone and Peter was the original, but the damage was done.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Like I said, the "Lana who left isn't the one who returned" shouldn't be taken literally. There is only 1 Lana now, and it's the original. Having another clone would be too messy and would hurt the show a lot. They did this with Spider-Man in the comics. When his clone Ben Reilly returned (after Peter disposed of the clone's corpse in a factory smokestack), they wrote the comics so that the Spider-Man who had been present all that time was the clone and Ben Reilly was the original. Then people got pissed off (like myself) and left the Spider-Man books. They later confirmed that Ben Reilly was always the clone and Peter was the original, but the damage was done.

Yea, i agree to all of this. Just like "Lionel being bad, then good, then kind of bad" last season got kind of confusing like they were trying to go somewhere with it, but decided not to. It worked, but yea. Hopefully, the clone thing is over and i hope the Kryptonian still on Earth dosent dig the writers into a hole that they dont know how to get out of in a good way.

[xrayvision]

I don't think there is a Kryptonian still on Earth. They said there was another one that visited. I'm guessing it was Zor-El or perhaps Lara.

But like you said, it could cause a hole they can't get out of. If Zor-El was on Earth, then why wouldn't he have had input into the FOS? After all, the artifacts that created the FOS existed long before Jor-El was born and before there were problems in the El family between Jor-El & Zor-El.

[tippership commander]

The Lana who left isn't who returned...Maybe, they thought we'd assime what we did, and made it so that the EVIL lana who left isnt' the SAME as the GOOD Lana who returned...literally...get it? lol...haha...if thye did that, they're messing with us while they build up something for her

off of that......
I DO think there IS a Kryptonian on Earth, and it will show that the planets are connected..

Hey, it could STILL have been Jor-El...or ...( i heard we might see Jor-El,s wife) It could be her.....LAra? you mean KAra, or who?

[STFanatic]

I know, it is Henry Small.
That way the writers can make Lana part Kryptonian :rolleyes:

[TWLOVER03]

I've got it! The Lana that returned (let's call her Lana2 and the Lana that left Lana1) is really Lionel, who was set up to be dead by Lana1, who Lex (who is really Chloe) killed because Clark (who is really Lois in a Shelby costume) is in love with Alicia (who's really Pete) who Lex (Chloe) realized he (she) is totally in love with.

Whew! Now we got that out of hte way.

[Hero fanatic]

Hi

Im new to the forums...this is my first posting.......

Well anyway....

In FIERCE when Lana said to Clark that she " knows actually what she is getting into" by involving herself in a relationship with clark. Also when it was mentioned earlier in the episode By Kara that Clark will outlive Lana etc.

I started to think perhaps we are seeing the real Lana but she has a clone of herself in hiding and that the purpose of the clone would be to live longer using the clone so to be with Clark.

Just a thought !!!

You never know anything seems to go in Smallville these days.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Hero fanatic
I started to think perhaps we are seeing the real Lana but she has a clone of herself in hiding and that the purpose of the clone would be to live longer using the clone so to be with Clark.

Just a thought !!!

You never know anything seems to go in Smallville these days. THAT sounds interesting. Great thinking. :p :D :)

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by Hero fanatic
Hi

Im new to the forums...this is my first posting.......

Well anyway....

In FIERCE when Lana said to Clark that she " knows actually what she is getting into" by involving herself in a relationship with clark. Also when it was mentioned earlier in the episode By Kara that Clark will outlive Lana etc.

I started to think perhaps we are seeing the real Lana but she has a clone of herself in hiding and that the purpose of the clone would be to live longer using the clone so to be with Clark.

Just a thought !!!

You never know anything seems to go in Smallville these days.

That kind of makes no sense. Ok, so she loves Clark, but when she dies, shed want her clone to live on with Clark. Dont clones age just like real humans do..? I believe they do.

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by Hero fanatic
Hi

Im new to the forums...this is my first posting.......

Well anyway....

In FIERCE when Lana said to Clark that she " knows actually what she is getting into" by involving herself in a relationship with clark. Also when it was mentioned earlier in the episode By Kara that Clark will outlive Lana etc.

I started to think perhaps we are seeing the real Lana but she has a clone of herself in hiding and that the purpose of the clone would be to live longer using the clone so to be with Clark.

Just a thought !!!

You never know anything seems to go in Smallville these days.

That theory makes too much sense for the Smallville's writters.


But,there's something that hits me...How many clones of Lana are out there really?We saw one burning in her car...Or was it the real Lana?Now why Lana would she need a clone of herself.She doesn't even know that Clark will outlived her.Or did I miss an episode:)

I'm pretty sure that it's the real Lana who burned in the car and this is the clone who's planning her revenge on Lex.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
That kind of makes no sense. Ok, so she loves Clark, but when she dies, shed want her clone to live on with Clark. Dont clones age just like real humans do..? I believe they do. Not if somehow she makes hundreds of clones to be awaken each time one dies. Or something.


Originally posted by Sweetie
But,there's something that hits me...How many clones of Lana are out there really?We saw one burning in her car...Or was it the real Lana?Now why Lana would she need a clone of herself.She doesn't even know that Clark will outlived her.Or did I miss an episode:)

I'm pretty sure that it's the real Lana who burned in the car and this is the clone who's planning her revenge on Lex. What if - The real Lana controlled more than one clone. Instructed one clone to blow up another clone. The real Lana is controlling all of the clones - since she became privy to everything Lex was doing (since Groll gave her that CD in the limo).

[STFanatic]

:lol: so now Lana is an evil scientist mastermind?
"Clone Master"
She will need more than the 10 million to keep all these clones in beauty products :lol:

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by litew8
Not if somehow she makes hundreds of clones to be awaken each time one dies. Or something.

What if - The real Lana controlled more than one clone. Instructed one clone to blow up another clone. The real Lana is controlling all of the clones - since she became privy to everything Lex was doing (since Groll gave her that CD in the limo).


It wouldn't suprised from her part but,she got to have someone who's showing her how,she can be an evil scientist so suddenly.How about Lionel who still capture somewhere.I'm pretty sure she hired the person who kidnapped him.

[litew8]

Originally posted by Sweetie
It wouldn't suprised from her part but,she got to have someone who's showing her how,she can be an evil scientist so suddenly.How about Lionel who still capture somewhere.I'm pretty sure she hired the person who kidnapped him. Now, what if she has instructed one of her clones to help kidnap Lionel so that she could retrieve Clark's blood that the Luthor's have stored away - that and Lionel has decoded the Kryptonian symbols to "pick and choose" powers. I think she succeeds and aquires the blood and symbols and that is how Wrath will play out. She'll get the stuff from Lionel and empower her clone(s).

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by litew8
Now, what if she has instructed one of her clones to help kidnap Lionel so that she could retrieve Clark's blood that the Luthor's have stored away - that and Lionel has decoded the Kryptonian symbols to "pick and choose" powers. I think she succeeds and aquires the blood and symbols and that is how Wrath will play out. She'll get the stuff from Lionel and empower her clone(s).

That's a good theory :D

[litew8]

Originally posted by Sweetie
That's a good theory :D :D :rotfl:

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by litew8
Now, what if she has instructed one of her clones to help kidnap Lionel so that she could retrieve Clark's blood that the Luthor's have stored away - that and Lionel has decoded the Kryptonian symbols to "pick and choose" powers. I think she succeeds and aquires the blood and symbols and that is how Wrath will play out. She'll get the stuff from Lionel and empower her clone(s).

Theres no more clones, get over it people :rotfl:

[litew8]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Theres no more clones, get over it people :rotfl: This statement is incorrect. We know Jullian is possibly a clone. :lol: :rotfl: