Does Lex Know?

[Heroes4Hire]

Does Lex know about Clark's secret because through the dialogue with Kara he hinted pretty hard that he knew about Clark's secret. Any thoughts?

[legolazzz04]

he is revolving around it, but he is still not sure.

[Red-Kryptonite1025]

damn u beat me to it i was about to post on this, that dialogue really made me go "holy crap he knows about Clark!"

[REebee52]

He doesn't know, he supsects. My question is when Clark becomes Superman how does he hide who he is from Lex? Or does this Superman story have Lex know exactly who it is? It would give him an interesting upper hand.

[Heroes4Hire]

It would I thought like wow Lex knows that was a pretty good scene.

[Dodge006]

Originally posted by REebee52
He doesn't know, he supsects. My question is when Clark becomes Superman how does he hide who he is from Lex? Or does this Superman story have Lex know exactly who it is? It would give him an interesting upper hand.

I was just about to say that. I know that they don't follow the comics/movies/other shows all the time, but having Lex know about Clark would be as messed up as Kryponite not hurting him.

[DreadShamus]

He pretty much knows enough to put it all together, he just keeps hoping to have control over one of them, instead of having to battle them for control of the world.

[superspider02]

yea he pretty much knows but isnt totally sure and wants it confirmed.

[Ardiem3]

He knows Clark is different. Hes seen him use strength and speed but hasnt seen it 100% and has no 100% proof.

[Izzysand]

Yeah, pretty much what I picked up from that. That he knows, but he wants to confirm it. But that was a little crazy, I was like wtf, but he also looks like he is about to have a breakdown.

[amberdawn]

He's definitely more suspicious than before.

[gategod]

obviously yes

[Luthor5339]

He knows Clark is different, might have powers and is keeping a secret. He knows nothing more than that... Kara would be his answer.

[fxrsteve]

Remember last season before the wedding, Lana set him up in the wine cellar...?
Well when Lana first moved into the mansion and Lex caught her snooping around, she knew that place had video everywhere.
Lex has it on tape and is in cohoots with Lana.

[DarkChilde]

Lex knows something.

what was that comment Lex made to Kara at the end about being hostile?

[cygnusx1]

he was having deja voo all over again. being pulled out of a submerged car by ripping the roof off . imagine his amazement when his savior turns out to be a member of the house of kent

[Alexander III]

He already said that its twice already that he's being saved by ppl from the kents family...isn't that kinda obvious LOL

[Vergon6]

He said "your secret is safe with me", and "are you a savior or a warning?"

I think given his discussion with the government agent, he may suspect that Kara came from that ship given the timing. He already knows that it is no coincidence that only Clark and Kara were able to save him. And he pretty much knows that Clark does in fact have special abilities (even if he may think he is a meteor freak), considering in Nemesis he directly addressed what happened in Crimson.

For all we know, he could still retain some memory of his time when he was inhabited by Zod or the events just before that. Although they are probably very fuzzy, and it only makes him suspicious of Clark because he can't tell if his mind is playing tricks on him. That's my theory at least.

[darkkrypton81]

Perhaps Lex will know Superman's identity in the future. He'll probably just keep the secret safe just to make things more interesting.

Lex Luthor would find a way to destroy Superman in a big way and not just take the easy way out by telling the whole world that Superman poses as a mild-mannered reporter.

Besides, Lex already has money and power. Scheming and plotting is the Lex Luthor way.

[Vergon6]

I think him knowing the secret makes things more interesting. Rather than reveal Clark's secret, he will see him a worthy adversary, and try ingenious ways to defeat Clark with limited success.

[ginnyfan]

Lex knows something is up with Clark. He probably suspects that Clark may be a meteor freak. But I don't think Lex would guess in a million years that Clark isn't human.

[kismet]

in one alt universe lex did know I don't know if that still applies to current storylines however...

[Vergon6]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Lex knows something is up with Clark. He probably suspects that Clark may be a meteor freak. But I don't think Lex would guess in a million years that Clark isn't human.
Yeah basically that is what he suggested by his comments in Nemesis. And Clark did not outright deny it either. That conclusion would come from the combination of acknowledging he noticed the bent chisel and lack of effect it had on Clark when he hit him, and then seeing Clark bleed in the Kryptonite filled tunnels.

But I think he may suspect that Clark and Kara are aliens now, given Kara's 'coincidental' appearance at the same time as the alien ship (well her ship, you know what I mean).

[ginnyfan]

That's true. Lex may be well on his way to connecting the dots. Especially since Lex feels that he's' "protecting" Kara from the weird government guy with the spaceship.

[mctor]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Lex knows something is up with Clark. He probably suspects that Clark may be a meteor freak. But I don't think Lex would guess in a million years that Clark isn't human.

Completely agree... I think if lex did find out Clarks secret it might just be like one power(maybe being able to heal himself) something that he wouldn't necessarily associate with superman in the future, and probably come to the conclusion that Clark is just a meteor freak.

[Ares]

Originally posted by mctor
Completely agree... I think if lex did find out Clarks secret it might just be like one power(maybe being able to heal himself) something that he wouldn't necessarily associate with superman in the future, and probably come to the conclusion that Clark is just a meteor freak.

Yeah thats what I had in mind..

[curiosity]

Originally posted by Izzysand
Yeah, pretty much what I picked up from that. That he knows, but he wants to confirm it. But that was a little crazy, I was like wtf, but he also looks like he is about to have a breakdown.

He seems like he's in shock at realizing another one of the "Kents" saved him, and ripped up a car doing it. He's realizing also that several space ships have landed in Smallville. Now he knows a ship was found at the same time Kara appeared, and she's Clark's cousin.

As the guy Lex hired told him "she was right where you said she would be".

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by fxrsteve
Remember last season before the wedding, Lana set him up in the wine cellar...?
Well when Lana first moved into the mansion and Lex caught her snooping around, she knew that place had video everywhere.
Lex has it on tape and is in cohoots with Lana.

Ha I used this in my Fan Fic "No Mercy"


Anywho does Lex knows? well... I think he knows Clark is hiding a secret/ has powers...

Kara... he basically called her out as being an Alien, He knows she's different, he thinks she is an angle but then learned about another Space ship... funny that this woman arrives and there is a space ship. Because she's a Kent, he becomes suspicious that Clark is the same, or they did something...

Lex only knows about 2 ships, the black and the Red... now... he knows about a third one, but it was never found so he chalked it up as rumor...

Clark was there before the 2 space ships. and concidering Fine wanted to make the perfect cure/ virus when Lex had the black ship.. I think Lex suspects Clark to be human, BUT has powers... and powers from an Alien... like these Aliens changed him...

Lex would probably assum that maybe Clark was experimented on by Aliens thus the powers... (also power on and off moments.. he sees him bleeding when he saw a chisel bend when trying to stab him...) So he wonders if the aliens are trying to get Clark back or are they preparing him for something

[smallville32]

How much "secret" are we talkin' about here?

[Zeburial]

Lex is really getting it to his head at this point. imo, he should have figgured out it way back.

[Dor el]

Lex will be able to disprove Lana's "she's from Minnesota" pretty quick and he will know that she is lying to hide something. The Kent's relatives should not be that difficult to trace.

[msleggie]

It's pretty obvious that Lex knows something is different about Clark, he just can't prove it.

[svsabbiesv]

i thought the dialogue was awesome, and Kara's face was like dang this guy is dangerous. must protect kryptons lol it was a great scene

[bobowayney]

well Lex has always had his suspiscions about Clark from the very first season (any one remeber the "Clark" room from seasons 2-3 ?) but Clark has always been good at covering his tracks, but Kara is careless plus Lex was "rattling" her during his conversation with her behind the Talon and he KNOWS it, he has nothing better to do with his time then to have Kara checked out, and knowing that she is working at the Talon, which Lex owns, I wouldn't be surprised if Lex began stalking her, he is grateful but still wants his superhuman army and given she is a hot young woman, I still think Lex will want to "possess" Kara and her powers

[Theshadow129x]

of course lex knows. he's not stupid! the one thing is that he doesnt have proof and making these accusations without proof makes u look crazy.

[Timester]

Come on, how dumb can Lex be? He has all the pieces of the puzzle since season 3. Let see:

- Season 1: He started Clark's room.
- Season 2 and 3: The caves and the blood, both connected to Clark.
- Season 4: The stones, he knows that Clark is connected to them, he saw Clark dissapearing into cave wall.
- Season 5: The ship, he finally founds about Krypton.
- Season 6: Clark's friendship with Ollie.
- Season 7: Kara Kent having powers and being connected to the new ship.

Seriously, if Lex doesn't know...

[Theshadow129x]

Lex: I saw you standing in the cave when the meteors hit. If you're my friend then just tell me the truth: Were you in the cave when the meteors hit?

Clark: No.

*Lex walks away*



^ Lex said he saw clark in the cave when the meteors came in the fifth season. He isnt stupid he knows clark is full of it. Clark is a bad liar too and so is Kara. If i was lex I wouldn't hire her. You dont want a liar working for you. They steal!

[JudasAce]

He doesn't know. He can't know, just like Clark can't end up with Lana or Chloe, Jimmy can't die and Martha can't turn out to be a Kryptonian. It's a fundamental violation of the lore, and it won't be accepted by DC, unless they do something like a memory wipe at the end of the series.

[Theshadow129x]

Originally posted by JudasAce
He doesn't know. He can't know, just like Clark can't end up with Lana or Chloe, Jimmy can't die and Martha can't turn out to be a Kryptonian. It's a fundamental violation of the lore, and it won't be accepted by DC, unless they do something like a memory wipe at the end of the series.

too true and you know what everyone looks clark kent in te face day by day and in 3 years no one will recognize him as superman: its too unbelievable!!! they more than likely will do a memory wipe because they just have lazy writers on the staff. it's too hard for them to at least write clark kent with glasses in every episode. gosh!

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Well I wouldn't say that he completly knows about Clark, he may just have some suspicion, but he doesn't fully know about his secret! However, he maybe alot closer to discovering it sooner than we think.

[liana]

It is not the first time that Lex is close to find the truth. In fact, it keeps happening in the show. In season 1, for example, he was very close, and he even hired Nixon to find the truth about Clark. However, he decided he was wrong when Clark lost his powers and got hurt in Leech.

Then, he finds everything in season 3, and he forgot it in Asylum. In season 4 Onix, he also found out about Clark's secret and his weakness, but he forgot it all over again.

Since the begining of the show, Lex danced around Clark's secret. He is always close to find it, sometimes he does, but, whenever he does, he either forgets it or convinces himself that he was wrong. Probably at the very end of the show, we will have a moment where either Lex will forget about Clark, or he will have a definitive (fake) proof that Clark is nothing more than a farm boy, and he will drop it forever. There is also the possibility that the producers simply not addressing the issue at all.

[XxKidMenuxX]

Lex will never know

[M4nfr3]

Remember 6x14 trepass? where is the tool that lana took after lex hit clark in the barn? if lex took it maybe he knows...

[Heroes4Hire]

Lex probably took because in Nemisis he said he saw how the chisel didn't do any damage to him and now he was surprised he was pulling sharpnel out of him. So maybe Lex did take the chisel from Lana.

[Sweetie]

Lex doesn't know for sure.He always suspected him to have a secret.He probably thinks he's krypto-freak.But,about knowing that he is an alien,I don't think so.I hope not because if he does,it would ruine Clark's chance to live a double life as Clark Kent & Superman.That would completly change the mytho.

[Poweranimals]

He doesn't know his secret. He knows Clark is different, but can only begin to imagine how.

[SSJConan]

About the chisel, we gotta keep in mind that even though it dented, Lex saw that hitting Clark with it did hurt him (though that was because Martha exposed him to Kryptonite), so pulling the shrapnel out of him disproved any suspicion there. In fact, all of Lex's suspicons of him have been disproved one way or another. The closest I think Lex ever got to learning the secret, outside the obvious times he did learn but had his memory erased, was in Season 4's "Blank" when he bluffed to Clark about the cave walls being about him and Clark's accidental revelation of the hidden room. After Fierce, I feel that Lex may actually be focused on a Kryptonian invasion that Nam-Ek, Atheyer, Brainiac, and Zod essentially implied within him during their times on Earth, and that the invasion will be led by the dialogue-referenced Kal-El of Krypton. As a matter of fact, Lex may be under the assumption that the man whom stole his Kryptonian Stone of Fire, was in the caves when the second meteor shower hit, and resembled Clark during the 33.1 raid in "Justice" is Kal-El; as Clark had alibis each of those times. Lex knows Kal-El can't bleed (he's seen Clark bleeding and injured on quite a few occasions), is Kryptonian, and could be involved in an imminent invasion (that of which he suspects Kara may be a warning of). This kinda helps how he'll see Kal-El and Clark as two different people in the time period after the show finishes, along with that aspect that Kal-El/Superman is/will-be the only super hero to perform his duties without a mask, so naturally Lex will assume he has no normal life and couldn't possibly be Clark after all the disproving elements he'd seen (bleeding, exposure to Kryptonite without weakening, etc., etc.).

[smallvillerocks45]

I think he knows Clark has "special abilities" (or is at least highly certain of the fact), but does he know he's an alien from Krypton? No, I don't think so...and he shouldn't, right? Otherwise, Clark's going to have to come up with a brand new disguise.