Loved it? hated it ? what did you think about Fierce?? [Archive]

Vatusia

10-11-2007, 07:11 PM

I liked this ep a lot. :) The show is growing more cinematic every season, and the krypto-freaks have started to remind me of the vampires in the Blade films - plentiful, expendable and darkly amusing. The Freeze Freak power was reminiscent of the insta-freeze scenes in The Day After Tomorrow - I think Jimmy's 'save the polar bears' story was a wry nod to this.

Kara reminds me of Buffy in all the best ways. I like what she brings to the show, and I especially like her relationship with Clark. I'm a fan of Happy!Clana, and I found that interaction quite darling. ADORE the direction TPTB are taking with Lex, with his selling Clark (and eventually Kara) out to the Department of Homeland Security (or whatever it's called on Smallville). I like the fact that Lex sees himself as the good guy, out to thwart the coming alien invasion like the Smoking Man on the X-Files, with Mulder's preoccupation with the Truth That Must Be Out There. And what great foreshadowing of a return to the Zod storyline, if that happens.

So far, I'm not minding the Kachlimmy triangle (Kachlimmy - anybody else got a better name? :lol: ). Glad Chloe pleased Grant "Drop An Anvil On Me" Gabriel this week. I liked the krypto-artifact that Kara and Clark found.

Nice work! :)

supergirl945

10-11-2007, 07:11 PM

i gave it 8/10 it was pretty good, not great

Dodge006

10-11-2007, 07:11 PM

Not bad, a few funny jokes, a couple seconds of action, and some setup for the Jimmy/Chloe breakup. But you can't ask for too much after last week's was so good. So a 7.

redraven

10-11-2007, 07:11 PM

I gave it a 7. Aside from the Kara/Clark and Clark/Lana scenes the ep was pretty...*yawn*.

Oh yeah and the "fight" was pretty bad. :\

Izzysand

10-11-2007, 07:12 PM

I give it a 8/10. it was pretty good. This season so far has started really good, I hope they keep it up. Lex is going crazy! MR is a great actor! Why are they crapping on Chloe so much this season, wow is making me angry, they can't be messing like that with my girl!!!! Loved the Clark and Kara interaction it was funny and LV is so freaking Hot! Behind AM of course!

ClarkyBoy14

10-11-2007, 07:13 PM

Okay, I'll admit it: I was pleasantly surprised by "Fierce."

But first, what I didn't like:
- that scene where Lana was walking towards Clark seemed really cheesy
- MR didn't sound too convincing when he was telling Brainiac Kara saved him
- Kara's super kick looked bad
- the greenk would have turned to blackK when Kara heat blasted it

Other than that, I liked it. It had the feeling of classic SV back, the Krelic bit was interesting, Lex's scene w/Kara was great, and I loved next week's trailer. 8/10

Nospam

10-11-2007, 07:13 PM

Anyone?

smallvillian141

10-11-2007, 07:23 PM

I give it a 9
--I would've had at least 1 clana kiss!
--I really dont want chloe and jimmy to breakup! I love them together!
--And there was no lois in this epi!

Dispit my anti-clois attitude i like lois :]

foreversmallville

10-11-2007, 07:23 PM

Even though I don't mind Kara...this episode was just all about her. I'm not sure I want to see too many of these type of episodes. I did enjoy almost everything else though...Lana returning....Lex telling Kara at the end that two Kents have now rescued him...I don't like that Chloe has to fight for her job with Lois and she might be fighting for Jimmy with Kara.

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 07:30 PM

Well, I loved the Kara & Clark confrontations.
The beauty contest looked too rushed.
I would liked to have seen more powers from the Weather Girls.
I am glad Chloe made the front page, but she doesn't deserve getting beat down.
I don't think the Lana we have seen is the "real" Lana.
I like Jimmy, I don't like them hooking him up with Kara as it won't put Jimmy in a good light, he isn't a "Player" by any means.
Another Kryptonian in Smallville? Is Smallville Alien central?
Was there at one time An Alien spaceport there?
Where are the Men In Black?
If we are only going to get 39 minutes an episode, how about showing the episode first then the commercials.
Though I liked the Kara parts, I didn't care much for the rest of the episode.

redeem147

10-11-2007, 07:30 PM

I was enjoying it until Lana showed up :)

Though I think Clark's in for a big disillusionment about how she's not the girl he wants her to be. Looking forward to that.

Kara rocks (which surprises me to say)

Chloe>All

10-11-2007, 07:30 PM

9/10

This episode had an "earlier seasons" feel. All that was missing was the school. Kara having the hots for Jimmy? Clark playing the Jonathan role? Haha.

gategod

10-11-2007, 07:31 PM

4/10 I liked bits and pieces with lex and jimmy but the rest didn't click for me. Everything felt rushed, they rushed the pageant her betraying them... lana and clark and the 'secret' They just left out way to much in this episode

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 07:37 PM

Oh I forgot my absolute favorite part of this episode!

The return of SHELBY!!!!!

SueB

10-11-2007, 07:38 PM

2/10

The writing was shallow and contrived.\

The editing was the worst I've seen in a long time.

The amount of airtime seemed really light.

The contrivances were fanfic quality.

Only the Lex and Kara scene at the end rocked. That looked like it was written by someone else entirely because it was so much better.

A deletable episode except that scene.

attitudejc

10-11-2007, 07:45 PM

I thought most of the beginning scenes were okay...Clark/Kara scene was cute, Clana scene was eh, the Freak story was a joke..:\ kara/jimmy/chloe thing was interesting, along with the meteor freak line from jimmy, and lex made me bored, surprisingly, because im not usually bored with his scenes....i thought overall the episode was okay.

ClarkyBoy14

10-11-2007, 07:47 PM

Some other things liked: Lex didn't dance around Kara w/ the rescuing thing: he just came right out to her, Jimmy and Shelby's return, Chloe and Jimmy's reactions after Grant left - that was really funny and it's clear they're setting him up as the guy we're supposed to love to hate, Clark and Kara mentioning that they're still looking for the crystal. I just wish there had been more Clark and that he wouldn't be felled by Kryptonite so much.

Dodge006

10-11-2007, 07:52 PM

Yeah, all but the Clark/Kara thing.

uhhuhhim

10-11-2007, 07:53 PM

If they're going to introduce Supergirl, that's fine, but to put her in a ****ing bikini in the third episode is pushing it. So much for not sexualizing another female character...

Sub Snake

10-11-2007, 07:54 PM

I didnt see this episode, but Im gonna say Grant Was annoying as ever. loll

paolinki25

10-11-2007, 07:54 PM

How cool Clark was about the "terrible crime" Lana comitted to the point it was even addressed.

Nospam

10-11-2007, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
If they're going to introduce Supergirl, that's fine, but to put her in a ****ing bikini in the third episode is pushing it. So much for not sexualizing another female character...

Yeah. Business as usual for Smallville. :rolleyes:

I wonder how many billions of sperm gave their lives for this episode. :p

myankskent

10-11-2007, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Sub Snake
I didnt see this episode, but Im gonna say Grant Was annoying as ever. loll

I wouldn't know, I blinked and missed him in this one.

thehenry89

10-11-2007, 07:56 PM

all of the above

aqgalaxy

10-11-2007, 07:57 PM

Lana coming back... but loved the fact that Clark's only reaction to seeing the love of his life return is to just hug her wow... he missed her,

Also I hated the Chlokarimmy triangle... i feel sooo bad for Chloe... Jimmy is eyeing Kara RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHLOE then noticed he's with Chloe but licks his lips, like he's turned on, and bring Chloe upstairs (should they f*ck, my guess he's picturing Kara)

ok... ohhh I hate the fact when Kara eyes Jimmy for the first time... Clark doesn't tell her that Jimmy is Chloe's Boyfriend aka that he's off the market... no he just ignores it...

Also I also despise the fact Chloe has yet to be told Lana is alive despite the fact that she and Clark was at the festival and note there is a spoiler out there that said that scene... Chloe questions Clark about seeing Lana, he says she's in denial... to hell with him!

Also the one Grant scene calling Lois "L" on the phone... right after getting a job she is already on assignments and um... they talk on the cellphone? wow... they are so not getting together [/sarcasm]

I didn't like this episode

luvinChlark

10-11-2007, 07:57 PM

I barely liked anything that went on in this episode....

Insight

10-11-2007, 07:57 PM

I'm really kind of diggin the whole Clark/Jonathan vibe.

It seemed short (the freak fight was nothing). And it was a little more conversational than usual.

warriorrenegade

10-11-2007, 07:58 PM

This was a pretty generic episode, complete filler. From the opening moments It felt like another Spell right down to the 3gals walking toward camera. Don't get me wrong I liked Spell it was a fun episode, but somewhere around the time Clark tried to teach Kara to control her heat vision the episode took a nosedive, hard. It just felt like parts of the story were missing. Blame bad editing or bad writing, but to me it felt like parts were missing or they weren't elaborated on further. So If Ihad to give a rating I'd go with a 5 average episode...nothing spectacular and nothing worth remembering...except Laura in that bikini....I don't think I'll ever forget that scene LOL.

Dodge006

10-11-2007, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
If they're going to introduce Supergirl, that's fine, but to put her in a ****ing bikini in the third episode is pushing it. So much for not sexualizing another female character...

Come on now. Do you think anyone ever liked Lana because of anything other then the poolside striptease?

mctor

10-11-2007, 08:02 PM

I enjoyed this episode a lot. It was a filler episode, but it was very different than the usual. unlike most there was much more to enjoy(not the usual 1 great scene at the end).

*I am loving the Clark/Kara interaction, the scenes with the two of them were very well done

*Kara trying so hard to fit in was kind of heartbreaking, I thought it was going to be easier for her because of Clark, but it is nice to see that she is doing things on her own and as much as Clark and her have in common they are so different.... its like Clark is human and Kara is trying to act like him but just cant.

* Lana and clark reuniting was very sweet

*Lana and Lex were great in there scene, it is all most like Lex had a plan to get Lana back in smallville knowing she would go right to clark. I think this is the season Lex is going to stop at nothing to find out Clarks secret....and Lana is the person he is going to try and break it out of.

*I enjoyed the set-up for the other kryptonian on earth

*something tells me that the Government agent is not who he appears to be

* the final scene with Kara and Lex was my favorite in the episode Lex's facade is going to crumble very quick, and the evil is going to come out...hardcore

8/10

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 08:06 PM

After adding the pros & cons, I gave it a 4/10 mainly because I expected a lot more.
I should have known better since now the episodes are almost 10 minutes shorter than before.
If Shelby were in it more than once, I would have rated it higher.

Jsmallville

10-11-2007, 08:06 PM

In the beginning of the episode it looked like Clark was checking Kara out. Any way even how disturbing that is lets move on. The Clana scenes were amazing besides the first scene between them, all the rest were good. Now the whole Kryptonite got me this time bit is getting old, come on lets get some thing better to get the MAN OF STEEL!!!! The Lex and Lana scene was perfectly acted. And Chloe getting bashed all the time is getting old. Remind me again how Lois is good reporter. When Kara did that back flip flying kick thing I was like yes! get that freaky looking weather girl. The end scene was Amazing just perfect. I give the epi 7 out of 10

xaosthry

10-11-2007, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy

Also I hated the Chlokarimmy triangle... i feel sooo bad for Chloe... Jimmy is eyeing Kara RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHLOE then noticed he's with Chloe but licks his lips, like he's turned on, and bring Chloe upstairs (should they f*ck, my guess he's picturing Kara)

Chloe soo caught that look. Don't think Jimmy will be using the whip cream anytime soon.

Originally posted by Dodge006
Come on now. Do you think anyone ever liked Lana because of anything other then the poolside striptease?

And from what I understand...Wasn't that a body double???

chloefan

10-11-2007, 08:09 PM

I'd say one thing : The Rebirth of CLANA!!

Its harder to kill off than Jason, Freddy, and all the vampires ever written about or shown in a tv show or on a movie screen put together!!

thehenry89

10-11-2007, 08:09 PM

Jimmy checking out another woman right in front of his girl, wasn't really that smart.

Kid Collins

10-11-2007, 08:11 PM

This ep was boring as hell!! The storyline with Kara and the Ms Corn Contest was lame. I gave it a 4 and that's being generous.

Even with the T&A it was still friggin boring! It gave me Devoted and Facade flashbacks! Horrible!

The only thing that redeemed it for me was the Clana but even that was so tame that I was disappointed at their reunion. That scene should've been more involved and it left me cold. The scene was shortened too much.

But I did like the 2 other Clana scenes where they had talks that they would never had if Lana didn't know Clark's secret.

The other 2 Clana scenes were very good but why haven't these two kissed yet? I want lots of PDA between them.

That said, Kristin looked drop dead gorgeous in this ep. Her face is perfection.

My overall reaction. MEH.

Flash_85

10-11-2007, 08:11 PM

I rate the episode what I rate Kara, 9.5/10.

chloefan

10-11-2007, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
If they're going to introduce Supergirl, that's fine, but to put her in a ****ing bikini in the third episode is pushing it. So much for not sexualizing another female character...

I really liked how freakin' hot she looked but you know what I have to agree with you. A bikini in only the 3rd show??

No reason other than just because they wanted to.

I ain't gonna lie and say I don't think she's hot & pretty though!

Darth Pipes

10-11-2007, 08:12 PM

I didn't think this episode was very good. The beauty pagent thing was stupid and Kara participating in it just doesn't work for her character at all. Though I did like her calling Clark out on some of his jerk behavior. It's time for Clark to move beyond Lana. It's never been a healthy relationship.

The last ten minutes were pretty good, with Kara talking to Clark about leaving Earth, Jimmy's change of opinion on meteor freaks and Lex confronting Kara. Looking forward to the Dean Cain episode next week.

superhippie2000

10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

i thought the episode was good and kind of glad they didnt focus too much on the evil girls. i liked the parts with kara the best. she is a good character and im liking how she is learning and she isnt exactly like clark but still has the same heart he does by wanting to do right. clark and kara need to meet in the middle and they will be both perfect heroes. it sucks lex has his eye on her but she isnt that good of a liar. i wonder if this is the start of lex finding out about clarks identity.

Nospam

10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Lana coming back... but loved the fact that Clark's only reaction to seeing the love of his life return is to just hug her wow... he missed her

Yes, the earth shattering hug was... weak. What chemistry they have. :rolleyes:

Also I hated the Chlokarimmy triangle... i feel sooo bad for Chloe... Jimmy is eyeing Kara RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHLOE then noticed he's with Chloe but licks his lips, like he's turned on, and bring Chloe upstairs (should they f*ck, my guess he's picturing Kara)

Once again, weak.

ok... ohhh I hate the fact when Kara eyes Jimmy for the first time... Clark doesn't tell her that Jimmy is Chloe's Boyfriend aka that he's off the market... no he just ignores it...

I also found this puzzling. Clark makes no mention that Jimmy is his best friend's boyfriend.

Also I also despise the fact Chloe has yet to be told Lana is alive despite the fact that she and Clark was at the festival and note there is a spoiler out there that said that scene... Chloe questions Clark about seeing Lana, he says she's in denial... to hell with him!

This also doesn't make sense. Lana says to Clark that he can't tell Chloe that she is alive, yet she strolls openly around at the Corn Festival (or whatever the hell it was called). I think this aspect to Lana's return was changed, actually. I suspect by the next episode Chloe will have learned of Lana's return. If not, this element to the episode makes absolutely no sense.

LoveHurts38

10-11-2007, 08:16 PM

Missed it ! so did not vote fill me in =)

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Dodge006
Come on now. Do you think anyone ever liked Lana because of anything other then the poolside striptease?

That wasn't her, it was a body double.

Darth Pipes

10-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Lana coming back... but loved the fact that Clark's only reaction to seeing the love of his life return is to just hug her wow... he missed her,

Also I hated the Chlokarimmy triangle... i feel sooo bad for Chloe... Jimmy is eyeing Kara RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHLOE then noticed he's with Chloe but licks his lips, like he's turned on, and bring Chloe upstairs (should they f*ck, my guess he's picturing Kara)

ok... ohhh I hate the fact when Kara eyes Jimmy for the first time... Clark doesn't tell her that Jimmy is Chloe's Boyfriend aka that he's off the market... no he just ignores it...

Also I also despise the fact Chloe has yet to be told Lana is alive despite the fact that she and Clark was at the festival and note there is a spoiler out there that said that scene... Chloe questions Clark about seeing Lana, he says she's in denial... to hell with him!

Also the one Grant scene calling Lois "L" on the phone... right after getting a job she is already on assignments and um... they talk on the cellphone? wow... they are so not getting together [/sarcasm]

I didn't like this episode

Good point on Clark not telling Kara that Jimmy is Lana's boyfriend. There's no excuse for that and he just helped that situation become more complicated.

I can understand Clark not pushing Lana for her secrets because of the way he always concealed his from her. But when your significant other admits she committed a "serious crime" it's not something you should ignore. Then again, Clark hasn't pressed Chloe on her return from the dead either.

Definitely hated the dumb beauty pagent competition the most. Kara wanting to participate in it didn't fit her character either.

chloefan

10-11-2007, 08:18 PM

I honestly didn't remember if Chloe and Jimmy were together again or not. I remembered that they had broken up but doggone it the season took too long to start back for me to remember they had gotten back together!!

warriorrenegade

10-11-2007, 08:18 PM

I say its no more sexualizing than any of the guys on the show without their shirts on...Remember Justin Hartley's 2nd or 3rd episode he was standing on his head SHIRTLESS and sweaty..heard no complaints of sexualizing then...

Clark Kent 86

10-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Um...EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

chloefan

10-11-2007, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by STFanatic
That wasn't her, it was a body double.

Yep, most definitely Smallville's worst kept secret. :D

ChlarkMe

10-11-2007, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Lana coming back... but loved the fact that Clark's only reaction to seeing the love of his life return is to just hug her wow... he missed her,

Also I hated the Chlokarimmy triangle... i feel sooo bad for Chloe... Jimmy is eyeing Kara RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHLOE then noticed he's with Chloe but licks his lips, like he's turned on, and bring Chloe upstairs (should they f*ck, my guess he's picturing Kara)

ok... ohhh I hate the fact when Kara eyes Jimmy for the first time... Clark doesn't tell her that Jimmy is Chloe's Boyfriend aka that he's off the market... no he just ignores it...

Also I also despise the fact Chloe has yet to be told Lana is alive despite the fact that she and Clark was at the festival and note there is a spoiler out there that said that scene... Chloe questions Clark about seeing Lana, he says she's in denial... to hell with him!

Also the one Grant scene calling Lois "L" on the phone... right after getting a job she is already on assignments and um... they talk on the cellphone? wow... they are so not getting together [/sarcasm]

I didn't like this episode

I agree, everything except the smiley watermellon was yucky in this episode. Lois on assignment comes to mind this is so ridiculous in my mind. Let Lois and Lana have Clark he's a class a idiot. He didn't even care about the man who confessed to murdering Lana being in jail. Innocent man in jail for murder be dam**d for the perfect Lana Lang. How many ways can one episode bite. Condescending Jimmy, normal for Jimmy as he has shown that side of himself to Chloe many times. Chloe should have hit both Grant and Jimmy with the stapler it would have made me feel better.

I feel better now. It was nice to get that off my chest.

bobowayney

10-11-2007, 08:21 PM

I am just wondering what exactly Lex wants out of Kara. Is he expecting her to be the new love of his life? She isnt as good at hiding herself like Clark is and it will catch up to her. We all know Clark will end up hating Lex, is the whole forcing Lana to marry him the last straw or will Lex's obsession lead him to hurt Kara and send Clark over the edge ?

double L

10-11-2007, 08:21 PM

As bad as Clana is, in this episode the Top Model thing was just stupid.

InLove_with_Chloe

10-11-2007, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by STFanatic
That wasn't her, it was a body double.
Really?
Something just died inside me.....

dcf

10-11-2007, 08:22 PM

I gave it a 3. Horrible fight scene, terrible meteor freak, really bad editing eg.Lana meets Clark in the barn, chops to the beauty contestants for 1.5 seconds, then suddenly we're pulled back to Clana before we ever even left it. Why not make it one long scene?

Oh and I hated the special effects on Kara's kick.

And now that it seems like Lex already knows Kara and Clark's secret more or less... that means everything that happens now is probably headed towards a big reset ... lex gets amnesia or goes crazy or whatever it takes to undo it.

Clark's really subdued reaction to Lana returning bugged me. Very unrealistic behaviour. If I lost my cat and it showed up at my step I'd be happier than Clark was. lol

.. maybe I'm in a bad mood tonight but I think I'm losing interest in Smallville-I didn't even watch the last half of Kara. I think it's because she's stealing Clark's spotlight-I want more Clark becoming a grown-up, not a boring overprotective father-type, making sure Kara's skirts aren't too short whenever she's on a date.

Well, those are all my reasons for giving it a 3. Thanks for letting me vent

jazel

10-11-2007, 08:23 PM

all and all the epi seemed filler to me.
nothing major going on here, except for Kara and the way CK treated her. Felt so bad for her, when she asked help with the make-up. Enjoyed the Kara/Lex scene at the end. How sad is it that thus far, Lex has me riveted ?lol.
The Clana wasn't that painful,lol.
Poor Chloe still having Grant on her ass, atleast she got a front page story right ? And I wouldn't be too happy with "her guy" if I was her.;)

Nospam

10-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Really?
Something just died inside me.....

Those should have dropped years ago, Stewie. :p

paolinki25

10-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Nospam

Yes, the earth shattering hug was... weak. What chemistry they have. :rolleyes:
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I honestly was surprised about the lack of chemistry or enthusiasm from TW and KK in that scene. They usually have more spark in their scenes, but these ones just felt forced and...I don't know. It seems to me they are as tired as the rest of us of playing this relationship.

InLove_with_Chloe

10-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Nospam
Those should have dropped years ago, Stewie. :p
:lol:
What can I say? Stamina.....

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 08:26 PM

Clark in Smallville is over, they have messed up the storyline so bad they need Kara to move a story along.
Think about it, what else can they write about Clark the way they have him now?
He will settle down on the farm with Lana and Kara will be the "Super-Star".

Nospam

10-11-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
:lol:
What can I say? Stamina.....

Now it's my turn to be impressed. :lol:

Originally posted by paolinki25
I honestly was surprised about the lack of chemistry or enthusiasm from TW and KK in that scene. They usually have more spark in their scenes, but these ones just felt forced and...I don't know. It seems to me they are as tired as the rest of us of playing this relationship.

While I found the chemistry between them to be incredibly blah I didn't mind the Clana scenes as much as I thought I would. Relaxed Clana still isn't great, but it's not a punch to the balls.

newfan

10-11-2007, 08:28 PM

I liked it...Ive seen worse episodes. I dont like Lana being back at all :lol: But we knew it was gonna happen. I do like the Kara and Clark scenes. Kinda sucked Lois wasnt in it though. But all in all not a bad episode.

svtwamedfan05

10-11-2007, 08:28 PM

What did I hate about Fierce? Do you really want me to answer the question? Ok but you asked for it.

LANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

svtwamedfan05

10-11-2007, 08:30 PM

I say a 9 but would have been a 10 if Miss Lana didn't come back

Above the clouds

10-11-2007, 08:31 PM

I gave it a 4/10

I really liked the Clark and Kara scenes
Beauty contest thing sucked and just stupid
I hate the setup of the Kara/Chloe/Jimmy triangle
Another krytonian on earth thing seems intresting so far
I liked the Lex and Kara scene...thats the Lex I want to see!!!
Lex and Lana scene was horrible to watch

And Clana...No comment!

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 08:32 PM

They really needed those ten minutes they cut.
Were the Weather Girls arrested?
Where the heck is the gold?
Did a Kryptonian steal the gold a hundred years ago and the Kryptonian artifact left as an I.O.U.?
Inquisitive minds want to know!
Where is Lois when you need her?

newfan

10-11-2007, 08:32 PM

I voted for Lana being back...its the one thing I did hate about this episode!

Minela

10-11-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Nospam
While I found the chemistry between them to be incredibly blah I didn't mind the Clana scenes as much as I thought I would. Relaxed Clana still isn't great, but it's not a punch to the balls.

No, I think relaxed Clana is more of a punch in the balls for me. It just annoys the hell out of me that we are told ove and over how much they are in love and how great Lana is. Yet we don't see it. We'll have to endure this ******** for most of the season, I'm already over it. Hell, I was over it three years ago.

Smallvilledabest

10-11-2007, 08:34 PM

My fave part is the return of Lana

Nospam

10-11-2007, 08:35 PM

I am surprised that more people didn't find it silly how Kara was instantly smitten with Jimmy Olsen. Jimmy Olsen, people. Apparently Kryptonians have a love at first sight complex. :rolleyes:

ChlarkMe

10-11-2007, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
I honestly was surprised about the lack of chemistry or enthusiasm from TW and KK in that scene. They usually have more spark in their scenes, but these ones just felt forced and...I don't know. It seems to me they are as tired as the rest of us of playing this relationship.

Can you imagine. It's got to be 10 times worse for them. I can picture TW making the gag me sign and KK rolling her eyes after the scene.

Nospam

10-11-2007, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Minela
No, I think relaxed Clana is more of a punch in the balls for me. It just annoys the hell out of me that we are told ove and over how much they are in love and how great Lana is. Yet we don't see it. We'll have to endure this ******** for most of the season, I'm already over it. Hell, I was over it three years ago.

Well, in consolation that hug after the reunion was pathetic. It was like, "Hey good job on rising from the dead." I've seen Clark emote more over his mother's baking than their reunion.

aXem

10-11-2007, 08:39 PM

for all the negative commentary, these scores sure are high. Guess it was good after all.
I didn't get to see it yet.

Originally posted by STFanatic
Clark in Smallville is over, they have messed up the storyline so bad they need Kara to move a story along.
Think about it, what else can they write about Clark the way they have him now?
He will settle down on the farm with Lana and Kara will be the "Super-Star".

doubtful

paolinki25

10-11-2007, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Nospam
Well, in consolation that hug after the reunion was pathetic. It was like, "Hey good job on rising from the dead." I've seen Clark emote more over his mother's baking than their reunion.

:lol: I agree. A good, Ma Kent applie pie has made Clark show more emotion than this.

Saber

10-11-2007, 08:41 PM

I gave it a 4, I thought it was a lemon and I don’t even want lemonade made out of it. It was very hard to swallow.
The focus has shifted; Clark is now the one in suspended animation. He is being overshadowed by so many other plots that should have been secondary. He is no longer the star of the show.
Well, I’m still going to hang on and hope for the best for the rest of the season. :\

BadToad

10-11-2007, 08:46 PM

That was truly awful.

I gave it a very generous 2 score, and that was 1 point for Shelby, and 1 point for the last Kara/Lex scene.

The rest of this episode was putrid. Honestly, this would probably rank as one of my least favorite eps of SV of all time.

STFanatic

10-11-2007, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by BadToad
That was truly awful.

I gave it a very generous 2 score, and that was 1 point for Shelby, and 1 point for the last Kara/Lex scene.

The rest of this episode was putrid. Honestly, this would probably rank as one of my least favorite eps of SV of all time.

It had me hoping for a vampire sorority girl or an exploding baby.

Above the clouds

10-11-2007, 08:51 PM

Kara/Jimmy/Chloe triangle is just stupid, I don't even get what Chloe see's in him, but now Kara has fallen under Jimmy's charm.
Give me a break, it's Jimmy f***ing Olsen.

But the thing I hate the most is the destruction of Lex Luthor's character. Someone needs to find Mr. Luthor's balls now!!!

BadToad

10-11-2007, 08:53 PM

It had me hoping for a vampire sorority girl or an exploding baby.

Me too! Where is Pete and drag racing when you need it?

Khyla

10-11-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by svtwamedfan05
I say a 9 but would have been a 10 if Miss Lana didn't come back
DITTO

BadToad

10-11-2007, 08:56 PM

All of the above. My brain is still trying to wrap itself around this episodes badness.

CLanaF23

10-11-2007, 08:57 PM

why does everyone hate soo much on Clana?? I love clana and im SOO HAPPY That their back!! they are the best couple ever!! no other couple compares on smallville and people say " o well hes gonna end up with lois" well i think if he does end up with lois its because he CANT be with Lana..cause if things could be perfect between him and lana and him and lois he would choose Lana! and this is Smallville i think anything should be able to happen with who clark ends up with sooo yea.

BadToad

10-11-2007, 08:58 PM

why does everyone hate soo much on Clana??

Because they suck. And because it destroys the character of Clark Kent.

CLanaF23

10-11-2007, 08:59 PM

oo yea i hated how clark handled lana being alive..i mean shes he love of his life and thats it?? he coulda done better!

Nospam

10-11-2007, 09:01 PM

To be honest, I didn't think this episode was that bad. The story was solid but certain elements were just over the top, like the America's Next Top Model take on the beauty pageant and Kara's reaction to Jimmy. But Kara definitely saved this episode with her interactions with Clark. Lex was a little more believable this time around as well.

lex_mr_hottie

10-11-2007, 09:02 PM

I gave this episode a 3. I was gonna give it a 1, but gave it a 3 because Kara/Clark made the show. Didn't like the clana and lexana scenes too much. I want Lex to move on from Lana. I'm tired of him moping. I hope he doesn't mope all season. I know it's tough in getting over a loved one, but come on. I loved Kara/Lex scene at the end. It sounds evil when Lex says "trust". You can never trust a Luthor. ^_^

lex_mr_hottie

10-11-2007, 09:10 PM

clana, lexana, lex moping, and the whole kimmy(Kara/Jimmy) thing, and the beauty pagent. weak.

If chimmy break up I'm gonna be so mad!

MackLove

10-11-2007, 09:19 PM

I thought Clana died? And nothing about Jimmy's return made me happy to have him back. I may be alone in this, but I wasn't a fan of the Kara/Clark.

I gotta say, I missed Lois. I miss Lionel. I miss Martha. Loved Shelby though!!

5/10

Ilovebeinglost

10-11-2007, 09:23 PM

with this episode the ratings will drop, you watch and see.

It was good while it lasted.

coasterprincess

10-11-2007, 09:27 PM

This was just....meh. Some points were really good....some points were really painful.

The Good
~Clark not being an idiot. Overprotective yes...but some of his reactions directly reminded me of Jonathan...which was nice.
~Kara....I liked the flip kick (nice for battles to be able to occasionally get off the ground) but in general I'm finding her character more pleasant.
~Shelby!!!

The Meh
~Lex....a mild throwback to the early seasons with his "what happened I must know to appreciate my 2nd...no make that 3rd chance at life"....I thought we got past all that

The Bad
~Clana.....*vomits* If they hadn't beaten it to death in earlier seasons (maybe a clean break in season 5 with less angst-y drama last season) I would feel for them and want them together.....but not anymore
~The Kara/Jimmy/Chloe setup. Just another feeling I have that we might lose Chloe. Plus I'm not a fan of love triangles in general.

Overall....6/10 (thanks Shelby for that :P)

Minela

10-11-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by CLanaF23
why does everyone hate soo much on Clana?? I love clana and im SOO HAPPY That their back!! they are the best couple ever!! no other couple compares on smallville and people say " o well hes gonna end up with lois" well i think if he does end up with lois its because he CANT be with Lana..cause if things could be perfect between him and lana and him and lois he would choose Lana! and this is Smallville i think anything should be able to happen with who clark ends up with sooo yea.

He only ends up with Lois because he can't have Lana? Are you new to Superman mythos? First the argument that if things could be perfect for Clana...is nonsense because they never are and never will be. Second, if you only knew the things Lois and Clark have been through together you wouldn't be talking like this. Lois and Clark are not just passionate lovers and soulmates (as established by all previous canon), but are partners in life. When Superman left earth to fight a battle that lasted for 1000 years in Valhala (but only lasted days in on earth), Wonder Woman offered to take care of his "needs", Superman refused because he knew Lois would be waiting for him. Lois and Clark have overcome so much adversity together, criminals, villians trying to take over the world, alian invasions, and everything under the sun only to end up stronger because of it and more in love with eachother. Clana on the other hand only went through secrets and lies and break ups and hurt feelings. And Clark's love for Lana was proven to be really strong judging by their reunion. :rolleyes:

Alexander III

10-11-2007, 09:54 PM

Not how exactly did Lana avoid jail, but how exactly did Kara avoid jail?

Minela

10-11-2007, 10:01 PM

I'm assuming Kara was set free because the real villains were caught. Whatever. The FOTW sucked big time.

Minela

10-11-2007, 10:24 PM

Overall it was awful.

Lex saved the episode for me. God I love him. I'm a fanatical Lex lover. He can do no wrong by me.

Jimmy is another favorite who I enjoyed tonight. Thand Goddess for Jimmy.

Kara and Clark were good. And of course Shelbe was awsome.

The rest? Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. Esspecially Clana. I have expressed my oppinion very loudly about that tonight. I am convinced that ship nonsense will be the nail in the Smallville coffin. Vomit at the prissy girls, too. They were pretty awful FOTWs.

SVfan4ever

10-11-2007, 10:31 PM

7/10
I liked the Clark/ Kara, Lex/Lana, & Lex/Kara scenes.
I didn't care for the FOTW's, the greenK, or the beauty contest.
The episode was so choppy. Just jumped around to much.
And the Lex impostor needs to GO!

Lex, oh Lex, where are you?

MRluvr

10-11-2007, 10:46 PM

3/10. ok, this was pretty boring-it seemed like a complete filler ep--I don't think i will ever distinctly remember this one. that said, i think clark and kara have great chemistry--i'm digging the whole jonathan vibe it's very cute and cool to see him playing that protective older brother/parent part. Lex has got me really confused--what is he up to now? is he good or bad? the scene with him and kara was really good, it was nice to see him just come out and be so frank instead of dancing around it and playing word games like he usually does. I love Lex!!!! (MR is a fab. actor!)Does anyone else agree that we are in desperate need of one of the older characters? where in the heck is Lionel????? I miss Martha! one of them needs to come back soon!!:(

Autumn

10-11-2007, 10:51 PM

I gave it a one!!! And that was generous from me. I'm actually repulsed. I don't know why I keep watching. It's like a train wreck I can't take my eyes off of.

What I liked to warrent it a one instead of a zero:

1) There seemed to be hope that Chloe and Jimmy will break up.
2) Michael Rosenbaum gave a good performance as usual.

Now, all that I hated to warrant the one (No more sugar coating from me):

1) Kara/Clark plot line. I knew it as soon as I heard she was coming on the show. It's going to be a neverending season of Ageless. Clark and Lana as the parents of Kara. Clark and Lana even had a talk about parenting. I almost had to get a barf bag. The sad thing is I'd take the exploding baby over this any day. At least that episode had Jensen Ackles, Jane Seymour and John Glover to save the rest of that episode. Clark the parent? No thank you. It honestly annoyed me. He hasn't grown up himself.

2) Kara has turned into another whiny female on this show. Just when I thought there couldn't be more. Now, she's an angsty teenager.

3) The return of Lana and the return of Clana. That scene when Clark first sees Lana I just was so annoyed that I couldn't take it. It was nauseating to me. Why in the heck is Clark still in love with her? It's ridiculous. And I don't think Lana loves anyone but herself. She always likes the guy she's not with, so soon there will be a new guy she wants. Or she'll miss Lex and all his money. And to make it worse, Lana reverted back to the sweet fairy princess voice of season one. I could barely tolerate it then, and now I just can't tolerate it at all. Clark and Lana will never die. As the old saying goes, if there would be nuclear warfare, there would be only two things left: Cockroaches and Cher. I'd like to add to that. There would be cockroaches, Cher and CLANA!!!! Move on!!!!!

4) Jimmy Olsen-still the pervert. I don't know why Chloe likes him. He always acts like a pig. Jimmy was checking out the models as well as Kara. Man, the poor girl's just stepped on by everybody. I just don't like the guy very much.

5) Lana and Lex scene: Don't get me wrong. I think what's happened between them is not surprising. They care about each other in their twisted way and then stab each other in the back. But once again, Lana, sweet up on a thousand foot pedestal receives no penance for her actions. She gets away with a serious crime AGAIN with no consequences. She can do whatever she wants, and still she's somehow the perfect little fairy princess. Bleh. She's evil, and the only one who calls her on it usually is Lionel. Lex is starting to see it at least. Thank goodness.

6) Chloe gets crapped on and throwed around at will. This just plain ticks me off. Lois is off in New York doing big stories, for what? Because she has passion? Give me a break. Grant is a tool, a jerk and has no talent whatsoever. In real life, there's no way Lois, a girl with no degree, no writing portfolio, no credibility, etc... would be offered a job like that at a large newspaper. That would be like visiting your cousin who works in the basement at the New York Times, and some editor (more likely a little older than 24), overhears you talking about some spaceship. He offers you a job and there: you're ahead of your cousin just like that. Just because some young, arrogant editor thought you had "passion." HAH!!!!!! Oh, and Chloe should follow in Lois's footsteps? Are these writers trying to tick people off? Not to mention, Chloe was used as a plot device yet again as if she were the famous greek slave statue by Hiram Powers. A representation of an enslaved woman, controlled by her creator (s), ie: Al Gough and Miles Millar, only to use her to their chauvinistic advantage. Lois will get her dream job, dream guy, Kara will take away her boyfriend, and she will end up with nothing that she's worked for because now she's conveniently picked up a meteor power. Well, good. She should leave Smallville and all the other psychos, join the Justice League and hook up with Batman.

7) Still no Lionel. He's greatly missed.

8) Even Shelby annoyed me. I felt like it was an arrogant nod from the producers to the fans to say "hey we still pay attention to what fans want." I personally thought it was annoying.

9) The whole model. fotw, pageant story line was just another example why I think all the shows on the CW have become about exploiting women. The episode was repulsive to me. The models couldn't act, there was no characterization, and the whole beauty pageant story line sucked.

Overall, well I think you know by now how I feel. The episode stunk, and there was nothing good about it to me. Honestly, my biggest dislike about the episode was who was behind the episode. The writers of this show write females like they are objects. Honestly, it's not "really" the characters I hate, it's how they've written them!!!! I've lost hope for this show. So, maybe in the future (doubtfully) I will be pleasantly surprised. HAH.

ginnyfan

10-11-2007, 10:54 PM

I give it an 8/10.

I thought overall it was fun.

- Jimmy's back! Yay.
- I enjoyed Kara/Jimmy hints, and also Chimmy.
- I enjoyed how Chloe's issues with her meteor power effects her work and her relationship with Jimmy.
- Enjoyed Clark in the Papa role with Kara. It's fun watching them rub each other the wrong way.
- Enjoyed the bit of Clark/Chloe investigation.
- Enjoyed the Lois mention.
- Enjoyed the Kara/Lex scene. That might be the highlight of the episode.
- Kara's speech to Clark at the end was another huge highlight.

I didn't like:
- Clana
- Lexana
- Lame Recycled Freaks of the Week powers. Making miniature tornadoes? Lame.
- Weird government worker guy.

KryptoKnight

10-11-2007, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by paolinki25
How cool Clark was about the "terrible crime" Lana comitted to the point it was even addressed.
Not only that, but it seems to me that harboring a criminal is punishable by law. Clark has more to learn, or is it the writers?

PKII

10-11-2007, 11:16 PM

First time I was never really into the show. I rate it a 1. Poor. :confused:

Jeri1250

10-11-2007, 11:17 PM

I'm really surprised so many liked the episode. I thought there'd be a litany of complaints.

I'm still not sold on Kara. If she does start acting like a whiny teenager Clark ought to remind her that she's actually 37 years old and to grow up. But, that beauty pageant had to be 'cause she's the eye candy now. I think she has a nicer body than face, tho. I wasn't too impressed with her wire-fu high kick. That's cheesy even in the best Asian movies.

A poster on another forum felt that Lex has become good. I doubt it, especially with his interaction with Kim Coates's character. That guy never, ever, ever plays a good guy and he's just the thing Lex needs to keep him on the crooked road to villainous hell.

Everyone thinks that Lana is the clone, but if she is, how did Lana die? But, clone or not, she sure took Lex for a bundle. If DC controls the show as much as some feel, I'm surprised they'd let the writer's writer her as an embezzler.

While Clark may have been happy to see Lana, I don't think he's that happy. And with $10 million dollars, I don't see why Lana should stay on the farm. Plus, when Jimmy dumps Chloe for Kara, Chloe is going to need someone to come to and that'll be Clark.

I really hate, tho, that Welling has become a guest star on his own TV show so I only gave the episode a 5.

jazel

10-11-2007, 11:24 PM

what did I hate about Fierce ? well something that could have been really interesting, turned out to be SO lame.....the Clana reunion, it just lacked any imagination or emotion. like it's a commom occurence. think CK showed MORE emotion at Lois's stabbing, and even Chloe's death....than w/ the reunion w/ his beloved Lana. They still have a HARD time talking/connecting with each other. She's sweet and he's understanding, but they just don't work well together.....my opinion.:)

trying2b

10-11-2007, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Flash_85
I rate the episode what I rate Kara, 9.5/10.

Yes sirreee! I love this show.

Originally posted by PKII
First time I was really into the show. I rate it a 10. Great! :D

Ahh fixed. :D

BWOracle

10-11-2007, 11:56 PM

I gave it an 8. Good for a filler episode. A lot better than Whither (which admittedly isn’t that hard).

Another Kryptonian in plaid…did she borrow it from Clark? Nice product placement for Beauty and the Geek.

As I speculated after last week’s episode…Kara’s heat vision activated by Jimmy.

Apparently, Kryptonians also rob trains.

LV looks pretty good in comparison to America’s Top Model.

Yeah, Shelby. Isn’t it interesting how lately he only appears in Lana centric episodes?

Does Kara really know what a Phillips head screwdriver looks like?

It looks like they cut out the best part of the Clana reunion in editing. It seemed to stop short.

Yeah, Kara in a bikini…twice.

Nice watermelon scene…if it were a Halloween episode he could have done a pumpkin (would have been an even bigger mess).

“Get back to me when you can fly Earth boy.”

“What am I? Like 5.”

Lex, take off the wedding ring already.

Love the “Panda Boy” remark from Grant towards Jimmy.

“How much blunt trauma do you think a stapler to the back of the head would cause?”

For the first time after 6 years we actually get a totally open and honest casual conversation between Clark and Lana (in the Kitchen). About freaking time.

Like Kara’s one handed holding the door over her head.

It was refreshing to see Lana totally freeze Lex out in a conversation after listening to her drone from the middle of Season 5 to the middle of Season 6 about how honest Lex was with her.

It’s also the first time Lana has really protected Clark’s secret. In Reckoning, she totally blew it. This time she got it right with the “from Minnesota” line. She’s getting better at it.

As for the 10 million. Technically, it may be a crime but until we start cloning humans and people can fly we can’t apply normal standards to these characters. She was trying to protect herself from a billionaire and needed the resources to escape. We as the audience know the truth of what happened…fake pregnancy, etc. Besides, a divorce settlement would have cost a lot more than 10 million and even Lex was cool with it but still tried to blackmail her with Clark’s reaction.

Since when did text messaging short hand become dialog…BFF

Love the Octoberfest maiden mud wrestling white trash vapid eye candy.

Appropriate first Kara experience with Meteor freaks.

“She saved me from drowning in the evil of my ways”…WTF Lex.

Took Kara a lot less time to get arrested than Clark’s first time. Love the prison bar wrestling between Clark and Kara. “No, No, No.”

Nice flip kick from Kara. Apparently, heat vision has two settings…heating and blowing things up.
Kara’s line about growing old with Lana reminds us that Lana and Lois are just the beginning for Clark. He’s virtually immortal which means he’s going to have hundreds of “Love’s of his life”. So chill out and let him enjoy his time with Lana. He’ll get around to Lois and then move onto someone else.

Looks like were going to see a lot of Kryptonians this season.

How many lead henchmen has Lex had?

I don’t think Chloe really wanted to hear from Jimmy how every meteor freak eventually snaps. That plus Jimmy’s reaction to Kara…Chloe’s having a really bad month. “Open season on the infected.”

Lana finally admits “we’ve both made mistakes.” Although, it would have been better if she said “She made mistakes.”

TPTB are going to have to really find a balance to keep Lex from finding out about Clark now that he knows about Kara.

Next week’s episode looks good.

sphrkilo

10-12-2007, 12:13 AM

This gets a 6 from me. This season is already going downhill, which is sad since it's only had 3 episodes. I love Clana, but them living together seems pretty unnecessary since she's not in hiding anymore. Is she ever going to live on her own, get a job, and take care of herself? Plus, I don't really like seeing Clark in the role of "father." That whole angle made this very boring and, once again, took a lot of the focus off of him and onto Kara and whatever she was doing. Hated the pageant thing, especially since Eva Marcille was a guest. She can't act, and her walk is terrible for her being an ANTM winner. Still annoyed by Chimmy, and now with another triangle thrown into the mix I'm getting very jaded. Not the Smallville I want to see AGAIN! The only really good thing that I liked was the glimpse of Lex being his old self again, but even that was ruined when he started babbling about angels . I probably should have given this epie a 4 or 5, but Lex saved it for me. Tell me, who is this show about again? The producers and writers seem to be confused.

Son of Kal-El20

10-12-2007, 02:36 AM

I thought this episode was very average and kind of boring. The plot was not very interesting and the villains were a little corny. The episode's only saving grace was the interaction between Clark and Kara. Otherwise this episode was plain average and not worth re watching.

Also I found it to be a little TOO convenient that the female villain was able to rip up some kryptonite from the ground. In fact, the way kryptonite shows up on this show is quite unbelievable sometimes. There's so much kryptonite in Smallville that they should rename the city Kryptonia.

I give this episode a 6/10.

testingguy

10-12-2007, 03:31 AM

6 from me, was an okay, but not great episode.

I thought the comedic factor with Kara and Clark was very good, something that should be built on, just as in the last episode, with the left, it just felt right :D

Lana back...hmmm not so sure about that, I DO like that she knows now, but you know, I think this is more likely to lead them away from the romance part. When Clark said to her he hoped she knew what she was getting into...I don't think she does.

Timester

10-12-2007, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by sphrkilo
I love Clana, but them living together seems pretty unnecessary since she's not in hiding anymore. Is she ever going to live on her own, get a job, and take care of herself?

FINALLY a Clana fan that I can love. :o :D

harryandginnyfanatic

10-12-2007, 04:07 AM

I didn't like it when the freak girls were mean to Kara.

Other than that, great ep.

Theshadow129x

10-12-2007, 04:13 AM

the whole episode was lame. die kara die!

lana should cease to exist too

CallMeClark

10-12-2007, 04:40 AM

To me the episode did not hold the momentum it had from "Zod" and "Kara." I gave it an 8/10.

To be quite honest, the absence of Lois was felt and even Chloe was shorted on scenes. I didn't like it that much... I did, however, find the side stories more interesting than the main plot (here we go again). No worries though, next week's episode looks amazing.

Things I Liked:
- Clark/Kara interaction. Clark trying to be an authority figure is quite funny. And Kara is a little more stubborn than he was in his teen days.
- Kara whooping some Freak of the week ass. Loved the punch.
- The hints at Kara/Jimmy romance. I think they make a more believable couple than Chimmy.
- The Chimmy tension. Especially with Jimmy saying how all meteor freaks are bad. :( Aww...

Things I Disliked:
- Clana. It just annoyed the hell out of me. I was all for Lana returning but the way she did it did not work. She just kind of appeared in the barn. It was poorly done.
- Lex (until the end of the episode). I am so over this whole angel thing. Lex is badass, he could give two craps if some girl saved his life, or at least not think she was an angel. We all know he's evil, stop trying to make him good.
- The A plot (the Peagent). Also, they left out the talent portion (and we saw pictures of Kara's costume for that too).

wearetheborg

10-12-2007, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by SueB
2/10

The writing was shallow and contrived.\

The editing was the worst I've seen in a long time.

The amount of airtime seemed really light.

The contrivances were fanfic quality.

Only the Lex and Kara scene at the end rocked. That looked like it was written by someone else entirely because it was so much better.

A deletable episode except that scene.

Well put

Also too many things happening
1.Americas top model
2.Kara & Clark
3.Kara & Lex
4.Lex & agent
5.Chloe & meteor freak
6.Chole-jimmy-kara
7.Lana - Clark
8.Lana-Lex.

I could not get attached to any one thing, except for that last scene between Lex and Kara.

CallMeClark

10-12-2007, 04:43 AM

Lana's return was written horribly. So I picked that.

Dew_drops

10-12-2007, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Timester
FINALLY a Clana fan that I can love. :o :D

i thought you loved me too:lol:

smallvilleobsessor17

10-12-2007, 05:17 AM

I LOVED THIS EPISODE! DELICIOUS CLANA!

marka58091

10-12-2007, 05:21 AM

Just another freak of the week episode but this time it was plural. I also like how Kara doesn't speak like an alien, but just like a typical earth teenager. I hope this is not the beginning of the end

spicyblark

10-12-2007, 05:22 AM

Yeah, the Clana was good, but I wanted to stab Kara! She's so annoying? Why did they decide to bring her on?

FiReFTW

10-12-2007, 05:29 AM

8 in my book , it was not all that bad ... too much critisizm here

samanta

10-12-2007, 05:31 AM

It's 3 for me.
It was so boring that I don't feel like commenting.

Scribe

10-12-2007, 05:40 AM

You know something - I'm the last person to say this since I'm a confirmed CLoiser but I liked what I saw with Lana and Clark today. Sure some aspects of its was poorly written (definitely more of a reaction from Clark over a resurrected Lana) but the attempt to make an honest go of the relationship was what I liked about this episode. Particularly, the chat about Kara and Lana realising how tough it must have been for Clark. I think they should have an honest go at a relationship and if it doesn't work out, they can go their separate ways and Clark can fulfill his destiny without baggage.

FiReFTW

10-12-2007, 05:44 AM

DOn't you find it funny how people
( especialy someone that rated this episode as one lol ) no offence just saying what Im seeing..

They talk 1 day how they hate Clark is immature and " stupid " .. Then 1 day they critisize how he acts like a " dad " towards Kara giving her good advice and acting all mature...

It seems like you guys don't even know what you wan't , because your critisizing everything.

aqgalaxy

10-12-2007, 05:52 AM

I still hate how Lana got out of jail... the man dies in prison... being labeled as a murderer smh... Clark never questioning her what crime she committed, nor ask how she learned about his powers (all he told her was that he was from Krypton and she said I know) Clark asked Chloe how she knew... but noooooooooo not Lana...

Also I hate the fact that Lana moves in BEFORE they signed the settlement agreement meaning, they were still married when she returned.

Typical Lana huh? On the day she divorces Lex (assuming the papers were signed late in that episode) She and Clark go back out... guess Lana doesn't need any single time :rolleyes:

wearetheborg

10-12-2007, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by FiReFTW
DOn't you find it funny how people
( especialy someone that rated this episode as one lol ) no offence just saying what Im seeing..

They talk 1 day how they hate Clark is immature and " stupid " .. Then 1 day they critisize how he acts like a " dad " towards Kara giving her good advice and acting all mature...

It seems like you guys don't even know what you wan't , because your critisizing everything.

Between being immature and being dad-like, there is a stage where one can act like an understanding responsible adult.
The middle ground.

STFanatic

10-12-2007, 05:59 AM

That is one of my pet peeves, why do some people think they must be "with" someone all the time?
You can't be you while someone is on your arm all the time.

Kryptonian-Ronin

10-12-2007, 06:07 AM

Not high on my list of viewable episodes.
Not horrid, but not great either.
Kara seems rather pointless right now, though her little zingers about him not flying are nice.
She seems to be a tad smarter than Clark in regards to using her powers - eat vision for the win over the kryptonite.

Clark seems, well, unsure of himself and his role this season, hope that gets cleared up soon.

Lana...what can one say about this "coming back to Smallville like nothing happened and lest go to the fair IN PUBLIC"?
Oh I know, lazy writing.

Love how Lex just walks into the Kent's house like it was his.

Felt like a filler episode.

Kal-alien

10-12-2007, 06:15 AM

I',m sick of people whining about special effects. The Kick Special effects were good, for a TV show. If this was a multi-million dollar motion picture event, with all the frills, i would hae been dissapointed, but it's a TV show that gets about 4.5 million viewers a week. It's not going to be as great as a speilberg movie. Deal with it, and accept it for what it is.

Kryptonian-Ronin

10-12-2007, 06:16 AM

What did I hate?

All of the above bro, all of the above.

At least Shelby was there.

last man of krypton

10-12-2007, 06:41 AM

This episode I give an emphatic, "meh".

superpal1

10-12-2007, 06:49 AM

Gave it a five. Kara sort of annoyed me this episode. I know that the writers were trying to portray her as someone who was sick of being told what to do, but in trying to do that they made her whiny. I did really like the end scene with Lex. The only other problem is that I hate episodes where Clark doesnt do anything. He always gets nailed by the kryptonite. In this ep. it should have been Kara getting the kryponite hit. She was seen doing her thing, just like Clark was worried about, so it should have been Clark saving her, that way she could have seen that her actions have consequences.

superpal1

10-12-2007, 06:54 AM

how about Clark getting hit with the kryptonite yet again, so he has to be saved by Kara, when he shouldnt have been in that predicament if Kara had not been reckless and seen using her powers. Thus Kara did not learn the lesson that what she does carries consequences. Kara should have been the one needing the saving.

smallville32

10-12-2007, 07:05 AM

It was all knda annoying

MiltonFine

10-12-2007, 07:11 AM

I rate it a 7/10.

liked:
- Clark, trying to guide Kara which makes him more mature
- Kara, her interaction with Clark was great (especially their talk at the end) and i also liked her scene with Lex at the end which could develop into an interesting storyline. Kara in a bikini was not too bad either ;)
- Lex, i like him more when he is obsessed over something instead of moping around because of Lana

didn't care:
-Clana reunion, it was what it was. Everyone should know after seven seasons how this show works and this is not going to change in the last (or second to last) season. Not many shows air for so long, so there are still enough people out there who like what they see (including the Clana). It can't be fun watching something you don't like only to bash it afterwards online, can it?

disliked:
-FOTW storyline

btw: my first post, hi everyone!

jimmyolsenblues

10-12-2007, 07:56 AM

I was not crazy about this one. It was a filler episode. Too much about kara fitting in.
The no-explanation about lana faking her death. The flat acting of clark the minute he sees lana, like he already knew she was alive. I was not impressed with this one....I gave it a 6 cause I am nice.

aqgalaxy

10-12-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by superpal1
. Thus Kara did not learn the lesson that what she does carries consequences.

Yeah when I saw Kara behind bars I was like... "Shouldn't it be Lana in there?"

cma_454

10-12-2007, 08:10 AM

It was better than I expected (although I admit to having very low expectations).

Not that bad, for a filler episode. Having it follow two (IMHO) great episodes may make it seem worse than it was.

Finding the buried Kryptonian symbol would have been a great intro to Dean Cain as a Kryptonian (wish they’d gone that way).

kal-el_Girl

10-12-2007, 08:18 AM

ok this is what I thought, in Onyx, when clark used his heat vision on the kryptonite it turned into Black K so why didn't occur this time

VAMPIREJUWELL

10-12-2007, 08:28 AM

Man Ya'll are crazy did ya'll men see Kira in her swimming suit, I gave it a 9 just for that purpose she is fine as heck, Man what I wouldn't do with her, vampire and supergirl, we could just make immortal love forever. Man but I would have to get passed her skin, I definetly want to bite her, hahaha, Maybe I could get some Kryptonite, and then bite her, yea that is what I would do, and yes it was kind of slow in some places, but men there was a swim suit contest going on you cant beat that, beautiful woman everywhere, I love beautiful woman, I love sinking my. Well you already know, hahahah, and I gave it a 9 because when she kicked Eva in the face she flew up in the air, and then kicked her. Finally some flying, but if they wouldn't of had the swim suits, I probably would of giving it a 7 or 8, probably a 8.

DarkChilde

10-12-2007, 08:47 AM

I see this episode similar to the last one. As a plot primer for the season.
Jimmy-Chloe-Kara relations
Chloe dealing with the fact that she is a Meteor Freak. This also gives her more understanding of what Clark was going through.
The Kryptonian item and the Crystal
Lex and the Kents
G-men vs Kryptonians
Lana stealing and faking her death, Lex heloing clean that up, but holding it over her head("I'm not sure Clark would see it that way")

Seems like the stage is set and time to build on the plot lines.

The weak point was the Kara Flip Kick near the end. It just didn't seem quite right. Maybe you should bring back some of the WWE stars from last season to help with drop kicks and stuff.

Dew_drops

10-12-2007, 08:56 AM

Hi Milton!
Welcome to the madhouse (please go while you can! - you find your values can become very easily warped here with ovediscussion!)

Honey45

10-12-2007, 08:58 AM

All of Clark's and Kara's scenes were awful. The writing was bad, the acting was bad. It was ... just bad.

Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
ok this is what I thought, in Onyx, when clark used his heat vision on the kryptonite it turned into Black K so why didn't occur this time

Also, what about the episode where Clark went blind? I thought he used his heat vision on a peice of Kryptonite and it backfired and made him blind.

Minela

10-12-2007, 09:26 AM

The exploding Kryptonite thing was bad. Really bad. Yet another missed opportunity to have Clark wear glasses.

skully

10-12-2007, 09:32 AM

I didn't mind this episode. Sure, it was a little slow in places, and very light on Clark super-hero moments (pretty much the only ability he used was to heat-vision the smiley face on the watermelon). But it had family/sibling development, a slowly, slowly rebuild of the Clana relationship, some humor, plenty of Kara super-heroics, some Chimmy complications, and Lex circling the Kara/Clark connection and how they (apparently) coincidentally saved his life 7 years apart (in a very similar extraction from a submerged vehicle scenario). I actually liked the mature approach Clark and Lana took in getting back together. Hell, she married his enemy, so he's cautious, and Lana understands. Any tongue-wrestling and saliva-swapping would seem very teenage. Clark and Lana are now in their 20s and are carefully dealing with their love (not infatuation) rather than jumping in head first. It was a little choppy in places but certainly not the worst episode I've seen. And Shelby made an appearance so how can this episode possible be below a 7???

SnarkMasterJ

10-12-2007, 09:36 AM

Um. Anything having to do with Lana.

She's proven herself to be a bedhopping, two-faced, self-centered snake in the grass and I hope she gets what's coming to her. Perhaps foolish to be optimistic, since any and everyone gets thrown under the bus for Lana, but if they can have Lex b!tchslap her last season, maybe there's reason to hope.

jazel

10-12-2007, 09:37 AM

it's a wonder he can fuction properly with ALL the green-k around. I thought it was a rare thing. Aren't they ever gonna be done w/ freak of the week thing ?

Minela

10-12-2007, 09:38 AM

I have no reason to hope, the *****slap was so she can once again look like the helpess victim (while at the same time being portrayed as a strong and cunning woman who is screwing both Luthors). Sheesh. Give me a break!

australian infected

10-12-2007, 09:42 AM

What an absolute boring episode. The only good part was lex's conversation with kara!

quietone

10-12-2007, 09:50 AM

The return of She Who Shall Not Be Named (at least by me anyway) and the soap opera that is sure to follow. The first two episodes get the season off to a good start but once you know who returns the life is slowly sucked out of the show.

Furthermore, I am peeved that She Who Is Blameless has walked away from the fake death mess exonerated and guiltless. No one called her on anything. Total bull****.

President_Luthor

10-12-2007, 10:04 AM

This was a run-of-the-mill SV episode, with a little bit of everything ... but instead of a house full of nutty sorority vampire girls, we get thieving meteor-freaked beauty queens. (And what happened to the interview and talent portions of the Miss Sweet Corn pageant? Not enough cheesecake?) :lol:

Clark takes some responsibility, this time for mentoring his feisty cousin. Jimmy casts a lingering gaze on the Kent cousin, while the alleged Chloe - Lois reporting rivalry's seeds are further sown. (IMHO, Chloe will become a mentor of sorts and it will play out as more of a competition than some bitter contest). More Clana, but this time it's Lana who is the secret-keeper. The saving grace for the episode was Lex's newfound messianic angle, with his quest for Kara - his "angel" of mercy - and his willingness to cooperate with the government against real/imagined alien invaders. This is the year Lex claims his irreversible destiny as the megalomaniacal archrival of the Man of Steel, and nothing will stop that bullet train from arriving on schedule. Sorry, Kal-El ;)

It rates a typical, average 7 out of 10. Babes, freaks, secrets/lies and Lex appeal.

red_sun1938

10-12-2007, 10:21 AM

7 out of 10

I liked the butting heads between Kara and Clark. Clana was not as bad as I anticipated. I did like what Kara told Clark about fooling himself thinking he can grow old on the farm with Lana. Planting the seed that Lana and Smallville are not his true destiny.

CLSmith

10-12-2007, 10:34 AM

I give it a 6.

Main plot was just to show off the latest AMNTM winner.

Nice moments with Kara/Clark/Lana and Jimmy!

I liked when Kara saw Jimmy and she got flustered and here eyes almost went into heat vision and Clak told her.

"Cool down used to happen to me too."

What is the Kryptonian artifact?

-cs™

loistickyfingerz

10-12-2007, 10:37 AM

I felt most of the characterization was fine, but the plot was very weak. Stupid things just happened to lead the characters into the plot they were supposed to be following.

Having Kara just fall for Jimmy on looks alone from a distance was very weak. Though I do see the neat little parallel with Clark's weakly-based love for Lana. Both are couples we know do not end up together. A good lesson in why "love" should not be based on shallow, unreasonable circumstances.

Jaded Wolf

10-12-2007, 10:48 AM

I gave this one an 8. It was an overall good episode. The writers and directors are definetely not sparing the special effects with the heat vision being used, the flying, and the ice effects. Even though this is your typical meteor freak episode the episode did good showcasing Kara and developing more of the relationship between her and Clark. The scene where Lana about had a cow when Kara walked down the stairs in her bikini was funny.

But there leads me to my only distaste of this episode. Lana now being in the Kent house. It wouldn't be so bad but then she invites Lex over for a secret meeting like she owns the place just because she has Clark's favor. I think this angle between her and Lex is weak and too longed played out. Finish it already.

Now that I think about it I really don't like the writers trying to reverse Lex now that he took those steps last season to be evil but because Lex believes he was saved by an "angel", he is trying to be good again. Just let him become evil already.

Other than those two complaints, the episode was pretty good.

MidgardDragon

10-12-2007, 11:05 AM

My vote would be for around a 7.5/10, since we don't have .5's, that gets bumped up to an 8. It was filler, but not nearly as cheesy as I expected it to be. All the interactions were great, especially Clark and Kara. The super-battle was as short as I'd predicted. Didn't like Lex coming to see Lana, nor that Lana seemed to have invited him. If he's going to act like or even believe that he's turned over a new leaf, he needs to stick to his words, and leave her completely alone. I was a little upset that one of the episode stills didn't make it into the episode, where she's wearing the outfit with the red cape. Overall this was no Thirst or Spell or Wither, it was more like some of the early seasons' better FOTW episodes. Hopefully we won't see too many of them this year, but a nice diversion nonetheless.

vyperman7

10-12-2007, 11:15 AM

Don't know how I feel about this one.

It was a FOTW filler. But it did have elements I liked. The heat vision training scene was great, and once again, I really like the fact they keep referencing the fact that Clark can't fly yet. The relationship between Kara and Clark is good because it constantly keeps Clark reminded of his heritage, and puts him in the mindset of looking out for her and protecting her. I really liked Kara's line of "If you think you can stay on the farm and grow old with Lana, you are seriously kidding yourself". They are at least trying to make attempts to get Clark to finally move past Smallville and look to the future.

LV's line delivery was a bit better in this episode. I think it was just the way she kept screwing up "Kal-El" that bugged me. Kara getting all "hot and bothered" over Jimmy :D That is something I didn't expect, and I liked Chloe taking notice of the chemistry between Kara and Jimmy. Now we may actually get some passion out of Chloe in regards to her feelings for Jimmy. Chimmy has got to be the most bland, boring, ship ever. Even worse than Clana. At least with Clana you can tell they are actually attracted to each other. Chimmy has always felt like friends with benefits. Although with barely ever getting to see even so much as a kiss, I don't how many benefits Jimmy is getting.. :lol:

My main question is - What did this episode have to do with Lana? I don't know if it is a bad thing per say. I was actually happy at the lack of screentime, and the fact that we don't hear Lana whining about Clark's honesty anymore is a good thing. But all the previews kept making reference to a "different" Lana coming back and making her out to be evil or something along those lines. The majority of the episode focused on Kara and Clark's relationship, the FOTW sub-plot, and Kara's desire to be normal with the festival.

Pleasant suprise with Lex actually getting to confront Kara and make reference to being brought back to life by two members of the Kent family. His coincedences line with great. Although I am still bugged that we are in S7 now, and Lex is on yet another born again do-gooder routine. Shouldn't he full on his way to villainy by now?

I would probably give this a 7/10 .. Maybe an 8 if I am feeling generous. But I can say that this is a good season so far. I like the feeling of it. It is already better than 5 and 6 in my opinion, and I am looking forward to seeing Dean Cain next week.

Autumn

10-12-2007, 12:16 PM

I know I already gave my comments about the episode. I rated it a one. But there are a few more things I forgot to mention.

I personally am beginning to feel pretty angry with the producers/writers of this show. I think they are making fun of the fans. And this episode is a perfect example.

I really feel that every time they show Shelby it is a slap in the face to the fans. It's their way of saying that "hey we read the boards, and know what the fans want," but we don't care. We'll give everyone Shelby and nothing else. Honestly, I think it's condescending.

After reading Al Gough's interview it's clear to me, that he doesn't care what fans want, he just cares about his own psychotic vision of this whiny pre-superman and neverending Clana, etc...

I personally wouldn't be too excited every time Shelby shows up. I think the producers/writers don't care one bit about the fans and what they want to see. This episode focused on exploiting women to a nauseatingly high level.

The show creates angry fans by throwing in anvils all over the place, purposely pitting fans of different ships against each other for sport (I mean why not? Let's have Chloe and Lois become rivals just like the Chlark's and the Cloisers are). They are doing it on PURPOSE!!! And it makes me sick.

Basically, I feel like the producers/writers see the fans as toys they can play with. We're all stuck in one big playhouse, while the kids (writers) look down and torture us in amusement.

I personally am not amused. And it makes me want to stop watching this show until they start showing some respect.

Characters should not be crapped on (Chloe), characters should not get away with whatever they want (Lana),and characters should not be pitted against each other for sport (Lois and Chloe), etc... The list could go on.

This episode was a perfect case of why they don't care. This episode sucked. The only thing I liked about this episode was when Lex tells Kara he would have protected the secrets of other people he cared about.

I feel sorry for the actors. They must be ripping their hair out. KK and TW obviously don't like Clana themselves and just want to move on. It showed in their performances.

Overall, this episode made me really, really angry. Okay. I feel better now that I got that off my chest. Though, every time I see Shelby I'm going to worry that something really crappy's going to happen in the episode. It's like their way of trying to make people forget that the episode sucks. Why? Because they gave the fans one thing they want....Shelby's cameo in an episode.

ginnyfan

10-12-2007, 12:32 PM

One thing the ultimate fan segment from the Season 6 DVDs showed me was how much everyone who works on Smallville does care. The way the lovingly keep the hate mail along with the positive mail... they count it all as love. It just gave me a lot of perspective on the whole situation.

ARTBUNKER

10-12-2007, 12:34 PM

Ill give it a 7. Only because of the missing plot points. Like when Kars got the time capsule, how she was proved innocent, and the whole CLANA thing UUUHHHH!!

I loved how Clark tried to teach Kara. It was sorta like he was going in a full circle. I could almost imagine Joathan lecturing Kara in the scenes.

Nice to see Jimmy back as well. THosugh its a bit ironic ICEMAN almost got frozen :)

All about Clark

10-12-2007, 01:10 PM

I gave it a 7. I wasn't particularly thrilled with the writing and the way the story went. But I had 2 scenes I liked and that was Clark trying to get Kara to control her heat vision and Lana telling Clark he's being too hard on Kara.

The most interesting line Lana spoke was that Clark has to hide himself. He responded with adjusting, but we know he hides himself regularly. It was a great revalation by Lana and hopefully it helps her understand why he keeps his secret private.

Poweranimals

10-12-2007, 02:00 PM

I thought this episode was amazing. The festival brought back memories of season one when they took advantage of being in a small town. The Clark and Kara interactions were hillarious. Clark's getting a taste of his own medicine from S1. Well I don't remember Clark being this much of a handful, but he's definitely seeing what his parents went through. I LOL'ed at the water melon scene.

And of course, Lana returns. I know most people are blinded by the blind hatered to for anything Clana to see anything beyond that, but I really like that they're getting a real chance this time. And I liked how Kara posed the question to him.. Do you expect to hide on the farm and grow old with Lana. Then in the next scene, Lana tells him she wants to grow old with him. Definitely an interesting bit of irony.

Lex was also great in this episode. The way he handled the government and Kara. You can see Lex is setting himself up for a fall again and it'll be interesting to see how that happens. The big question is who is this Kryptonian who has been Earth for 100 years. I'm really liking the direction this season seems to be headed. There's a lot of intrigue happening this year. And next week, Dean Cain, ladies and gentlemen.

Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
ok this is what I thought, in Onyx, when clark used his heat vision on the kryptonite it turned into Black K so why didn't occur this time I assume it has to do with how much heat is applied. In Whisper, Clark just fires a blast of heat vision and it's reflected back. He uses a consentrated beam of heat to turn the Kryptonite hot enough to become BLACK. But with enough power, it'll just explode like it did here.

Brizzle

10-12-2007, 02:05 PM

I gave it a 4, this episode was boring. The Kara fight was lame, the writing was bad.

As a clana fan, I did not like the clana scenes much becuz there was so much more that needs to be discussed, it is like the writers are trying to jam everything in for us to understand but they just leave us with more questions.

Poweranimals

10-12-2007, 02:08 PM

What questions?

SuperConartist

10-12-2007, 02:41 PM

While it is healthy to have criticism, I'm one of those people that likes to sit back and enjoy things and not get too caught up with the little details. Not that I'm saying any criticisms you guys made are wrong, I'm just saying I humbly liked every bit of the episode. I liked it when Lana came back. I like how Lex is going over the whole trust issues again with Kara. I like the interactions with Clana being more open now that she knows his secret. It doesn't feel so awkward anymore to watch. And I like seeing Clark being the caring brother/cousin to Kara.

KryptonianIdiot

10-12-2007, 02:57 PM

Terrible, and I mean Season 4 terrible.

cma_454

10-12-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by ARTBUNKER
...Nice to see Jimmy back as well. THosugh its a bit ironic ICEMAN almost got frozen :)

I believe you're thinking of his brother Shawn Ashmore, who on Smallville played Eric Summers (the kid that got Clark's powers) and played Iceman in the X-Men movies.

babyluthor

10-12-2007, 05:12 PM

Overall I enjoyed the episode. I thought the scenes with Kara were so cute, how her eyes lit up when she saw Jimmy and how she blew up the watermelon with her heat vision.

I was a little disappointed with the FOTW powers. We have seen freezing powers already. I think they could have been a little more creative with that.

One thing that I wondered about was the lack of reaction when Clark saw Lana again. I mean he thought she was dead for sure and then she just shows up. I thought it would be more emotional.

I'm starting to get bored with Clana scenes. By the way, why is Lana always whispering. I think it started in season 6.

One thing I really liked was the new character Grant Gabriel. He is like a breath of fresh air. I love the nicknames Panda Boy, Chloster...

I like how they are moving towards a Chimmy break up and a Karimmy hook up. I think Jimmy and Kara would be cute together.

Also I'm looking forward to seeing Lex pursue finding out the truth about Kara.

Overall good episode.

Joekur

10-12-2007, 05:48 PM

ok, FWIW...

First, is it just me who likes the way Kara says, "Clark." It's not "romantic" I just like her voice. It DOES make me wish my name was Clark! haha..

Second - I was getting sick of Clana until season 6 - to me, she redeemed herself. I think she's great, and I'll have fun watching some Clana. I'm getting a whole MA/PA Kent Vibe going - she's awfully comfy on the farm there - but I'm liking it!

Third - LOVE the Lara/Jimmie chemistry (are we calling this Limmie or Jara?) - anyway - wow, I feel the chemistry. I'm going to love seeing that play out - I don't care if Chloe loses Jimmie to Lara, cuz Chloe is really MINE! MWWHAHAAHA ChoeKur forever! LOL! Someone did post something about there being no passion there with Chimmie - I have to agree. Lara having the hots for Jimmie - I could feel that. 'course, if she Jimmie doesn't leave Chloe for Lara, there's always LaraKur, I'll take that too! LOL...

Fifth - and Joekur's soapBox - For the Love of All that is Holy, can we PLEASE stop Bashing the producers and "TPTB" on the show! Respectful disagreement is cool, like, "Gee, I wish they'd have sawed off Lana's head with a dull butter knife" is ok, but the "The producers hate us! They don't care what the fans say! TPTB are stupid!" etc etc... Well, I have this to say - When you produce your own highly related show that's gone seven seasons, you have some room to bash'em. But until you've walked a mile in their shoes, and have accomplished what they have, the don't criticize them like that...

'sides, if you walk a mile in their shoes first, when you DO criticize them, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes... hehe...

Love Smallville so much - you HAVE to have fillers in there guys, sorry. If EVERY story were a "Justice," then 1) They'd be canceled 'cuz they'd never make any money and 2) we'd think they were ALL fillers. It's the well done ones I really like. Wither, for example, DID want me to saw off the heads of the TPTB with a dull butter knife. But Geez guys, I did't SAY that! LOL! I just said, "Geez, that was kind of a dumb episode.."

ok, I've rambled enough!

kavalier

10-12-2007, 06:05 PM

This was a great episode, in the way that it was nice to have a lighter episode where the characters were allowed to develop without huge tension in the background. I really, really like the vibe of this season so far. Smallville has never felt more natural to me. Kara is really coming into her own. The Clark/Lana vibe finally feels right. And yet, they are setting up for so much to come (who is this Kryptonian in the photo? what will Lex do to Kara? how much longer is Chloe going to get the shaft? just who is Grant Gabriel anyway?)

I think the writers have just really honed and perfected Smallville over the past two season and its really starting to pay off in dividends. By the way, my favorite scene just might have been the melon decoration. Thought that was a nice touch.

Mr.White

10-12-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by superpal1
how about Clark getting hit with the kryptonite yet again, so he has to be saved by Kara, when he shouldnt have been in that predicament if Kara had not been reckless and seen using her powers. Thus Kara did not learn the lesson that what she does carries consequences. Kara should have been the one needing the saving.

This is a big problem I had with this particular episode ,among other things. But this stood out the most. Clark did his best to try and teach Kara how to use her powers in a responsible fashion. But in the end needs saving by his "student" (The show's villians in this epsiode were plenty lame as was the constant use of kryptonite to stop Clark). He looks weak and stupid. I wondered what would happen once Kara was beginning to get more invovled in the story than the show's main character and know I have my answer. And it has shown up rather soon too. Once again CK has become a secondary character on his own show.

clarkbunny

10-12-2007, 08:22 PM

Wow - I have a feeling that if Smallville makes it to the end of the series without being cancelled the dvds will just have a note from the writers/directors on the screen throughout all the episodes saying "WE'RE VERY SORRY"

Where do I start. I rate this a 5, 1 better than last week's episode. But I have to say 3 episodes in and I am so very disappointed with Smallville. All the thrilling plot twists they built up to in the Season 6 finale have all been wasted by shoddy & rushed writing.

I really get the picture that the CW have said there will be no Season 8 so the writers are trying to wrap up the series this season which is why everything is rushed. Either that or the CW have dictated that they want more ratings, more teenage viewers and more adverts - essentially 'The OC' with Superman.

Hey Lana's got $10 milion dollars (imagines Dr. Evil mwahh haa haa :lol: ) she could move herself and the rest of the cast to the beach in California and the show can be all about Lana, Lois, Kara & Chloe in hot bikinis and Clark can become a surfer dude in sandals - he does do a good 'Bill & Ted ' impression :rolleyes:

Ok so what I hated. Clana's first meeting - THE GIRL WAS DEAD CLARK SOME REACTION PLEASE!!! I thought he could at least step away from Lana when she went to put her hand on his face - like you can't be real. He was too accepting of her being alive but then again he was hardly that cut up that she died in the first place.

I hated that Clark did not question Lana on the 'serious crime' she had committed. The episode would have been so much better if they had at least added Clark saying 'What did you do?'. Who the hell wouldn't ask that and how did Clark not question how she came to be alive and who the hell was in the morgue.
Also, someone please explain to me what exactly is this crime that Lana is wanted for that they need to clear her name of??? Is it the death of whoever was in the car with her DNA?

Also Lana said she needs to keep a low profile in Smallville until she clears her name - so she goes to the state fair, with press photographers - WTF??!! I was expecting to see her in her blond wig at the fair but no - bold as brass strolling along in full view of everyone. I just despair at this program! She, can walk amongst the general public who have seen her face plastered all over the newspaper, risk being photographed by Jimmy but to tell her BEST FRIEND she isn't dead Noooo THAT would be too much **shakes head**

I hated Clark as the father figure for Kara, hated hated hated it. The bikini scene was fine but the whole American dream, football player crap and ramming the Jonathan similarity down our throats was just sickening & annoying. Why would Kara care about 'the American dream'?? And what they hell was she talking about 'I missed the best years of my life' - she is still essentially the same age due to being in stasis and Kryptonians live far longer than humans if not forever - a point that she was making to Clark about him outliving all his human companions so what's the big deal on 'missing out' on being a teenager. Being a teenager on Krypton would be different to being a teenager on earth anyway.

I hated the Chlarmmy, why the hell would Kara like Jimmy Olsen - please. And Jimmy is smitten with Chloe to have him looking at Kara was so forced. Also his line on Krypto freaks was so obviously placed to engineer the Chlimmy split. And for what reason Chlimmy are good together?? If they don't give us Chlark I will thoroughly annoyed about the ending of Chlimmy. Poor Chloe is being bashed from all sides - her job is under threat, she is upstaged/undermined by Lois & Grant, she's a krypto freak, Jimmy hates krypto freaks, Jimmy likes Kara, Lana knows Clark's secret, Clark is keeping Lana being alive from her, Clana! The way things are looking they'd have been better off leaving her dead :\

FOTWs were lame - I didn't get to see just HOW Kara betrayed them - I blinked and she had betrayed them?? I don't know what the girl that got iced did wrong to deserve being killed? Kara going from crap heat vision to super accurate to focus on a small piece of kryptonite.

So far Kara has brought nothing to the show, they've made her a whining teenager/sex symbol - I hate this. I was hoping for more of a kryptonian guide & friend for Clark. She is now stealing Clark's thunder. Please send her away to help the Justice League - Smallville isn't big enough for two superheros, and I know which one I want to watch.

nightwing_08

10-12-2007, 09:14 PM

personally I think It was great, I really love Kara, as long as Kara's there, it's great. She has a gorgeous body, and a cute smile. She really looks hot on that red bikini. I think Kara made the watermelon explode on purpose just to piss Clark off. hehe

But please lay low on those meteor freaks, more and more of them keep coming out over the last few seasons, can't the writers think of any more enemies for Clark and Kara to battle aside from those meteor jerks?

My reaction to the Clana scenes is great, coz i've always liked those 2 characters way before they even became a couple, and now that Clark is comfortable talking about his powers with Lana, its a new beginning for them.

LoveHurts38

10-12-2007, 10:31 PM

I guess for what I am reading did noy miss much ...good

Joekur

10-12-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Also Lana said she needs to keep a low profile in Smallville until she clears her name - so she goes to the state fair, with press photographers - WTF??!!

Ok, I'll give ya that one - "SHHH!! I'm Hiding! Don't tell anyone I'm here! I've got a GREAT idea! A great place to hide and lay low! Let's go to the state fair where everybody in the FRIGGIN STATE will be! YEA! No One will find me there! I'll be sure to wear my hair EXACTLY the way I've done my entire life! I'll walk around and hold hands with you... Gee! I hope there aren't any PHOTOGRAPHERS at the STATE FAIR where they're about to open a Time Capsule. YEA! That'll be a GREAT idea!"

CLanaF23

10-12-2007, 11:28 PM

LOVED IT !! i LOVED it because of one thing CLANA!! <33

borednow

10-12-2007, 11:50 PM

4 and I'm being generous...

Jimmy, the watermelon, Shelby and the Lois phone call saved this from being a 2. I don't have the heart to give anything a 1 since the 100th episode of Charmed...

Zeth Duuron

10-12-2007, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by ARTBUNKER

Nice to see Jimmy back as well. THosugh its a bit ironic ICEMAN almost got frozen :)

I was totally thinking that!

ginnyfan

10-13-2007, 12:15 AM

He wasn't iceman... it was his twin brother... but I thought about that too.

Zeth Duuron

10-13-2007, 12:17 AM

I did realize that, I was trying to give the poster props. Yes, Aaron Ashmore = Jimmy, Shawn Ashmore = Iceman. Aaron's the "fat" twin.

sebari77

10-13-2007, 02:55 AM

It's only an 8 or 9.... isolated, it was uneven and might've benefited from being a 2-parter instead, but for what it's done for the show as awhole, it was an 11.

For quite a while, the show has felt adrift. You've got to feel for the writing staff, they have had this impossible task in seasons 5-6, of keeping the drama alive, but being unable to resolve anything by taking it too far, because it would get too close to their "end state" of the program. No matter how solid their vision for the destination for these characters in this variant on the SupermanMythology; not knowing whether they had 1, 2, or 3 more seasons to journey before reaching the end of the character development, forced them into occasional absurdities and second-rate story arcs (compared against their better standards).

When it became known that they were bringing in Supergirl for season 7, and trying to go for a season 8, it seemed like a desperate ploy, a gimmick, an artificial means of life support. Heck, it's even known as one of the prime signs of series death, as JumpTheShark might put it, the "New Kid in Town" 1-point imploding show technique.

And, up until now, you couldn't blame someone for answering "yes" to the poll about whether Lana should've been offed in that explosion. They didn't seem to know how to handle that storyline, and perhaps an abrupt end would've been merciful.

But, this episode was a revelation for the potential to have a second renaissance for the show, before it concludes. For a show that seemed inable of recapturing its original spark, this episode marks the pathway for a fresh-feeling rush to the finish line.

Re-structuring the show back to its roots, with Tom Welling as John Schneider, and Ms. Vandervoot as Welling, was a stroke of brilliance. The writers have clicked their red heels, and found there's no place like Smallville - the one that ignited the phenomenon in the first place.

Tom Welling looks reinvigorated and freed by this new structure. He'd been tasked with repetitive situations for so long, you couldn't blame him for the slight hint of complacency that crept in along the edges of a few season 5 and 6 episodes, because whenever the writers delivered a challenge, he's delivered. In this episode, he looked eager - relishing the new dimension to his character. For a show that is oh, so, much, about "growth" - he finally gets to exude the fruits of those labors. The character of Superman - his moral character, that is - has always been more essential than his physical feats. Now Welling gets to flex those muscles, that essential sense of right and wrong, that's been architected over the many trials of the early episodes.

One of the key dynamics for the early years of Smallville was Mr. & Mrs. Kent coming to terms with the need to "let go". They could no longer shield Clark. Those episodes, among many other things, were about them learning how to let go of their roles as protectors. Eventually, it seems like this new dynamic is that Clark is going to have to let go of his central dream of the series: his relationship with Lana. It looks like this is how they've figured out how to structure the overall arc for the end of the show, whether it's 1 or 2 more years. Clark's going to have to learn to let go of that dream, in favor of a greater calling.

That might not be precisely what they have in mind... but what is undeniable is that this latest episode FELT LIKE SMALLVILLE, real, true smallville, the smallville that started the phenomenon, for the first time in a long, long long time.

Some great shows, in their final episodes, go off the rails. Others, find a way to recapture the essence of the original spirit of their show, but making it even better because they're able to revisit the same territory, but with experience and confidence. Before this episode, it looked like "off the rails" was the more likely outcome. No longer. Now they've rediscovered the formula for their own magic. The magic of the heart of the show. They don't have to continue the Clark-as-Jonathan angle forever, but, this choice has righted the ship, and gives fans hope that the voyage is going to be great again.

MissLane

10-13-2007, 05:00 AM

Its another smallville episode.. such as in the first, second or three season.
The worst thing is clana.. oh my god, nooo again nooo!!!!
I only pray someday writers don't write more clana anymore!! it's enough, and it uses to be tired for the fans!!

I really would like to see clana as friends!! such as chloe and clark! that kind of relationship would be better for the tv show
because when clana appears the episode uses to be really bad!!

and... lana isn't very kind with chloe.
Chloe is always worried for Lana and she doesn't act the right way with chloe

anyway... i don't like the episode very much!!!
i really liked that lana wouldn't be the center of the tv show!!

ash91

10-13-2007, 05:33 AM

i didn't care for the episode much, i never like these freak of the week episodes, hopefully we wont see many more this season (but we probably will). however it was ok and i did enjoy the conversation between kara and lex at the end

owensj1

10-13-2007, 08:29 AM

I gave it a 6. At the end of the episode all I could think was strangely unsatisfying. The elements that I normally like were there but with no pay off.

Clana - I have to admit that I am a Clana fan even though I think the storyline is not good for the development of Smallville. Most of the clana scenes were OK and Clark and Lana seemed to be moving into a friendship role but there was that undercurrent of "let’s start over". Please no! Season 5 was the final breakup. They need to stick to this or Clark will never progress.

Clark in the Role of Jonathan- This would have been fantastic if Kara had not been such a poop. They have to find a way of writing these scenes that make Clark look good.

Beauty Contest/FOTW- Seasons 1-3 are my favorite so again I would normally like this type of storyline. But it was too rushed. They should have dropped all the Lex and Lana stuff and saved it for next week. Clark/Kara-Beauty Contest-Weather Girls was enough for an episode with Chloe & Jimmy as the B story.

What are TPTB doing to Chloe?!!- Last week was bad enough with the Lois/new editor stuff but now they are moving into the Chloe is not attractive enough to have a boyfriend area again. I really don’t understand how Al & Miles can treat their most original creation this way. Lois does need to become the most important reporter at the Daily Planet but that does not preclude Chloe Sullivan from having a successful career also. If Chloe and Jimmy are not meant to be together couldn’t Chloe be the one to stray. I am getting off topic but Chloe’s development in this week’s episode was a major reason I found it unsatisfying.

shy175223

10-13-2007, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by CLanaF23
LOVED IT !! i LOVED it because of one thing CLANA!! <33

It will never last through the season...

MidgardDragon

10-13-2007, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by shy175223
It will never last through the season...

Nothing wrong with that. We get to see Clark being with Lana open about his powers, then the relationship ending. About time on both counts.

jor-eldeux

10-13-2007, 09:33 AM

OMG - I can't believe I am watching another season of Dorkmetroplisville South. The State Fair of Kansas is held in Topeka if anybody cares. Now my real gripe .... as has been on here for sometime ....

Three points for Superman - truth, justice and the American way. (meaning democracy, capitalism, and people doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do). TPTB - Al/Miles - are either molding Clark to that or have completely forgotten it. Smallville is about Smallville and the small part Clark Kent played in that town. "They are a great people - they need someone to show them the way." "That's why I have sent you ... my only son." That is Superman .... this show is not .. which is what the Al/Miles monster that ate Superman is trying to prove. While everyone else is going to hell in a handbasket ... it's the Kryptonian (the male one) who never lies, insures justice, and protects the ideal American life (philosophy aside), he does not want to be one of them ... he is to LEAD them.

Now go back and watch this episode and ask yourself - where is Clark on truth, justice (the top chick committed a serious crime and her ex's daddy got her off and cleared her name so she can appear in public with the Superman impersonator).

Forget the horrible writing, the bad editing, the swarmy acting (no offense cast, you can only work with what you are given), the non-action action sequences, and the T&A. I can put up with that if ... you give me Superman. You would find - look at all the other TV, movies, cartoons, etc. - that's what will draw viewers (more than the 233K ratings were up) are drawn to this Superhero .... Does anyone realize that kids thought George Reeves really was Superman and really could fly?

The Al/Miles duo is obviously not interested in viewership since they continue to do the same things that have driven new viewers away. They are left with a hard core contingent that will not shrink - and certainly won't grow.

This episode got a 1 .... give me back truth and justice and I'll vote a 10. Give me back Superman - with his soul mate - then I'll give a 10.

MidgardDragon

10-13-2007, 09:42 AM

(meaning democracy, capitalism, and people doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do)

LMAO! If you think Superman stands for Democracy and Capitalism, it's time you just go lock yourself in a room full of pictures of American Presidents, with the national anthem playing, and never come out. Superman has nothing, NOTHING to do with politics. And "the American way" was added long after the concept of the character. Even so, others on this board have convinced me that it doesn't even have to be about politics. The American Way can be about the same things truth and justice are, living a good life. But in no way does Superman have anything to do with capitalism and democracy. Time to get off the drugs, friend.

Give me back Superman - with his soul mate - then I'll give a 10.

You need to either go read the comics, watch the movies, watch the cartoons, or watch Lois and Clark. This series is not about Superman, and it's not about him being with Lois.

*shakes head* +1 for most ignorant post ever.

jor-eldeux

10-13-2007, 10:00 AM

Sorry ... that was my point ..... this show is not about Superman ... and for those who want it to be about Superman .... it's not going to happen. IMHO ... there is an attempt to combine the rewrite of Superman history with DC characters ... and it is a poor attempt at that .... no continuity, holes galore .... but ... if it were to try to pick up Superman as the story ... Superman fans would watch ....

American way aside since that is a whole discussion as to the definition ... truth and justice .... if you can't keep those at the core of this character ... then it's not Superman

So those who want this to be about Superman - they have to include those core values ... truth and justice. This Clark Kent - lacks both.

And you are correct ... those who want that Superman need to go .. and don't expect this series to produce it. This show nor any episode will ever be a "10" because it lacks those qualities. Put those qualities in ... and I'd give the episodes a 10.

And thanks for the +1 ... oh and did you ever just write anything to get a reaction?

PKII

10-13-2007, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by trying2b
Yes sirreee! I love this show.

Ahh fixed. :D Umm that is a "ONE" I was generous I think it was a ZERO. Lame. Lame. Lame. This episode will be voted worse episode for season 7. :p

theWatcher

10-13-2007, 01:15 PM

I liked the episode because it reminded me of hoiw things were during season one and two. Clark playing the role of the parent/gaurdian and Kara struggling to control her powers and find her place in this world. Much like it was when Clark started to learn to control his powers and find his place with Martha and Johnathan, the worrying parents. It's like they are discovering the shows roots with this episode. Agree or disagree, it doesn't really matter to me, for all I know is that I got the sense of the old Kent Farm/family once again.

trying2b

10-13-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by PKII
Umm that is a "NINE" I was generous I think it was an EIGHT. GREAT. GREAT. GREAT. This episode will be voted best episode for season 7.

There fixed that too! :D

What I can't understand with all that eye candy every guy (or girl if that's your way) should have loved it.

shy175223

10-13-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Nothing wrong with that. We get to see Clark being with Lana open about his powers, then the relationship ending. About time on both counts.

Well, Clark might been open with Lana but will Lana be open with CLark....either way it end happliy.

clarkbunny

10-13-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by trying2b
There fixed that too! :D

What I can't understand with all that eye candy every guy (or girl if that's your way) should have loved it.
Yeah but some of us are actually watching the show for the story and not the eye candy. Yes Tom Welling is hot but I love the show itself as well - or at least I DID before S7 started and they brought in Kara to ruin it all.

oldskooldcfan04

10-13-2007, 08:01 PM

I thought that this was a weak episode (in Smallville standards, still better than pretty much anything else on tv) because not alot happened. Were the stuck up freak of the week models supposed to carry the show or the complete non-focus on Clark? I like Kara but the show is about him and other than 5-6 minutes of Clana time, it was focused on Kara. Even when He was in the scene, it was about her. Plus, Kara and Jimmy? Chloe gets screwed and takes it like a champ again!! They like to dish it out to that character.

STFanatic

10-13-2007, 08:19 PM

But when Bart Allen comes back to town, Chloe will be free ;)
So we could have some "Clart" :p

Serynarpc

10-14-2007, 03:46 AM

Three.

The first ten minutes got me hyped, we fast forwarded through the Clana scene because my boyfriend started to develop a nervous twitch (or a cavity, not sure) and the fight scene made me wonder what stop realism got off at.

Add in the Chloe getting kicked again and I'm never watching this episode again. Its deleted off of the DVR. Can we delete Clana next?

MissLane

10-14-2007, 05:36 AM

why clana?? i don't understand!!
Well... when lana said those words to clark, he wasn't very convinced about a future relationship with her

PKII

10-14-2007, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by trying2b
There fixed that too! :D

What I can't understand with all that eye candy every guy (or girl if that's your way) should have loved it. :rolleyes:

KansasKitty

10-14-2007, 11:30 AM

I was disappointed with this episode. I agree with those whose commented that the story seemed rushed and pieced together between way too many commercials. Even if the Clana reunion moment was not really happening between Clark and the real Lana I think more could have been done with it. Then to jump to the two of them talking conversationally on the couch seemed such a cheat. Lana shrugging away explanations of being blown up in a car with the equivalant of "Sorry...My Bad" was anti-climatatic to say the least. I did like the final scene between LV and MR. That seemed to hold promise.
I taped this episode. Watched it a couple times and decided it was not as bad as I orginally thought because I adjusted my expectations down a couple of degrees and was able to enjoy it more. Sigh,....I sure miss Greg Beeman and Jeb.

M4nfr3

10-14-2007, 12:46 PM

preety nice!!

Welling_is_pretty

10-14-2007, 07:32 PM

Oh and Season 7 was going so well!

Fierce was a big disappointment to me after the previous great episodes.

Clana, the total cheesecake-isness of this episode and ANOTHER FoTW who can freeze things?

Thank goodness for Shelby and the mystery of Lionel Luthor, is all I have to say.

This was a bad reminder of, well, bad episodes past and I hope it was an aberration. Let's get back to the good stuff, plthnx.

ambspock

10-14-2007, 07:34 PM

i think i agree with some posters that this epi seem a bit rush....its like they wanted to get the lana coming back-knowing clark is from krypton-plot out of the way ...n when in the epi did lana discover clark is from krypton? did clark tell lana at some point in the epi that i miss? or was that bad editing?..it could have been a lot better and kara rescuing jimmy from the ice car..was probably a way for kara to shine in the epi...hopefully next epi will be better than this one n subsequent epi after will improve this season...seems this season is off to a rocky start

supermommy

10-14-2007, 07:37 PM

I gave it an 8. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. It made me laugh several times and I am watching the show for entertainment not a history lesson on Superman. I do hate the way they are crapping on Chloe this season. I hope that doesn't continue. I love the interaction between Clark and Kara. It's very light and funny. I have always like the Clana stuff, but it is getting really old and seems forced now between the actors. I loved Lois and Clark and can't wait until next week.

Sweetie

10-15-2007, 07:02 AM

I gave it 8.The good points:Kara & Clark's interaction.It so wonderfull that he want to protect her like little sister.It's great to see someone who really knows how Clark truly feels.Jimmy was fynny too,I can see that his flirting with Kara is starting.Lex coming out of his cavern was great to see,explaining to Lana how to play the game." You doubled cross me,you will go down with me,missy!"

The bad points:Lana' return...Golly,I felt that even Tom & Kristen were bored in those scenes.No sparks,no chemistry,no kisses nothing.Tom had better scenes with the dog. Poor Chloe,she's a krypto freak,will loose her boyfriend soon,her job is awfull.I hope they know where they are going with this.But,for now,it's doesn't sounds too good for her.

Kent_addicted

10-15-2007, 11:00 AM

I gave it 8 also. I loved that episode and I'm glad they're coming back to the way SV was before. Season 6 was so dark that it was fun to see that epi with a lot of jokes and cool things.

STFanatic

10-15-2007, 11:38 AM

Humor is one thing that has sorely been missing in Smallville, not since the race between Clark & Bart (Impulse) has there been a real example of "buddy humor".

MidgardDragon

10-15-2007, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by STFanatic
Humor is one thing that has sorely been missing in Smallville, not since the race between Clark & Bart (Impulse) has there been a real example of "buddy humor".

I think Kara and Fierce have really delved into the humor, personally. Also, back in Season 6 we had the ending of Sneeze. It's been rare, but we've seen some of it.

boingo

10-15-2007, 09:30 PM

6 - overall it was disappointing...I would write out all of the reasons why, but that requires effort something this episode lacked imo.

brando_2185

10-16-2007, 11:51 AM

To me the episode seemed to feel "classic." I loved how they focused on things in Smallville and not Metropoils so much, like back in the day. It felt very much like Seasons 1 & 2. I just hope they keep the focus on Clark and not too much on Kara, even though she has a huge part to play.

Boschka

10-18-2007, 01:58 PM

Hi..I'd give it a 5. What I don't seem to understand and I watched " Fierce " twice now is that no one blinked or looked funny at the end when Clark and Lana are at the carnival ? Um..given the Luthors money and power , the " death " of Lex's wifey poo would have certainly made a lot of press coverage...for her to pop back up and no one blinked ??? No one noticed ??

I mean..come on....

STFanatic

10-18-2007, 02:11 PM

Not to mention wasn't Jimmy there snapping away with a camera?
He knows Lana.

CK2092

11-13-2007, 01:05 PM

A good piece of worke, from the producers. Great start with Clark and Land. And some interesting discussion between Clark and Lana. And Clark and Kara.

Mr.

11-29-2007, 07:19 PM

filler! but great job

haltoe

12-25-2007, 10:45 AM

Watching the rerun reminded me that Kara could be a great addition to Smallville if the writers would only let her. She's very exciting as a superheroine who can rescue people and kick butt. Unfortunately in the awful "Blue" episode the writers turned Kara into a helpless amnesiac.

I don't know what's with these writers. I understand in "Gemini" Clark gets similar shabby treatment.

My message to the writers---keep it simple. Clark and Kara are supposed to be heroes not victims! Stop adding these absurd complications. Seeing people degraded is not entertaining!

faith_may

01-26-2008, 09:37 PM

Really good episode

Mr. T

04-21-2008, 07:22 AM

This was another cool episode from my favorite show on television today. Kara ripped the door off the car that Jimmy was in with no problem. It was a good thing she followed him out there. Her infatuation with Jimmy at the time ended up saving his life. I knew Clark was going to start taking it easy on Kara once they were in the hospital. Clark had asked Kara if anyone saw you use your powers, and she sarcastically responded saying, "I'm sorry, I was too busy trying to save Jimmy's life. I thought you would be proud of me." Towards the end, Kara took those girls out in no time flat. The best part was when she flew towards that one girl and flip kicked her in the face, knocking her into the wall. Great episode!

9-SOSIHTWB

08-17-2009, 11:51 AM

1/10! My first ever 1! I hated this episode, and I mean hated it! Kara Kent makes me depressed!

jon-el87

12-12-2009, 10:10 AM

^ITA. It was a crappy episode. However, I did learn the three first things, a female alien does after arriving on Earth;

1) Watch Beauty and the Geek.

2) Watch Project Runway.

3) Enter a beauty contest.

(That's what Kara said she had done, in the start of the episode and what she did in it.) Because, as we all know, there's nothing more important for a newely arrived alien (like.. I don't know.. Study their culture (not popular culture) and learn human costums (the information, she's said to have gained from her ship's computor was from like 1985-86. Lots has happened since), build up your false background and memorize it), then to do just that. I also found it funny, that she's able to pass herself off as "Kara Kent, daugther of Jonathan Kent's brother" (which, everyone in Smallville, should know, he didn't have), without anyone in Smallville reacting to it.

(I also can't help, to notice.. That Kara sure have gotten over the destruction of Krypton, her friends and family, this soon.)