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Merlindamage
10-04-2007, 06:23 PM
...I dont like him...
harryandginnyfanatic
10-04-2007, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Merlindamage
...I dont like him...
Any particular reason why?
TrevorH
10-04-2007, 06:29 PM
okay..after one scene where he agreed with lois to do the spaceship story to sell papers you dont like him ..thats harsh
biggkoz
10-04-2007, 06:39 PM
Yeah Im not buying a 22 year old runs the daily planet,can he even grow facial hair?
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 06:41 PM
I don't like him because he's saying the DP is now about making money, not about reporting truth and justice... He's turning it to a tabloid
meteor_phreak
10-04-2007, 06:41 PM
not to mention, he totally gave lois a job offer she doesn't deserve.
harryandginnyfanatic
10-04-2007, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
not to mention, he totally gave lois a job offer she doesn't deserve.
Lois was willing to turn that job down just for Chloe.
Ardiem3
10-04-2007, 07:05 PM
I like him. He should be good this season.
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I don't like him because he's saying the DP is now about making money, not about reporting truth and justice... He's turning it to a tabloid
:lol: Nice of you to twist his words around. He is still about reporting truth and justice. I might remind you of a certain episode where Chloe said if you can prove the existance of a UFO that's a front page story for the DP. Ha! Now that seems to be forgotten. And if you would pay a little closer attention he didn't print Lois' story because she lacked prof.
I loooooooove him.
Oh, and somebody mentioned his age, well if you were paying close attention he is the "new wonderboy reporter" you don't need to be a old hack to know what is news and know how to write it.
Muahahahahaha. Lois is at the Planet.
Chloe....lost her mojo....:rotfl:
SVfan4ever
10-04-2007, 07:06 PM
Nope, I don't care for him either. Just to uppity for my taste. Didn't like his mouth or his attitude.
meteor_phreak
10-04-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
Lois was willing to turn that job down just for Chloe. that's got nothing to do with this thread, as it's talking about grant, not lois.
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
not to mention, he totally gave lois a job offer she doesn't deserve.
Hahahhahaha! I'm lovin this from the Chloe fans. Ooooh, you just love to take things and twist it to your liking. :rotfl: He loved her writing. It was fresh and he gave her a job based on that. So, pardon me if I beg to differ, but I think she totally did deserve it.
:D Lois is at the Planet! Lois is at the Planet!!!
Runestone
10-04-2007, 07:09 PM
Ugh... I don't like him one bit. "Yeah, Lois, go ahead and give me a story about a spaceship. Oh, you can't back it up with facts? Ah well, here's a job anyway even though you have NO credentials..."
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:10 PM
Of course Chloe haters love him... this is their dream episode...
No offense... Chloe was going off what Clark said too... that she didn't know what she saw... that she hit her head by falling in the mud.... She was telling her to back off to protect Clark....
Of course there is no proof... but a UFO piece isn't something that news paper looked for...
The DP lowered it's standard on what it allows on it's pages and THAT was the Only way Lois was able to get hired
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by SVfan4ever
Nope, I don't care for him either. Just to uppity for my taste. Didn't like his mouth or his attitude.
I thought he was great. No nonsense. Fresh attitude, roll with the punches, gimmme a story...don't give me ********. Oh, yeah. I like him!!!
Originally posted by Runestone
Ugh... I don't like him one bit. "Yeah, Lois, go ahead and give me a story about a spaceship. Oh, you can't back it up with facts? Ah well, here's a job anyway even though you have NO credentials..."
No credentials? I think being employed by a paper is more credentials than writing for a highschool paper. Plus, he LOVED her writing. Papers are about talent people. Lois got talent. :D
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Minela
Hahahhahaha! I'm lovin this from the Chloe fans. Ooooh, you just love to take things and twist it to your liking. :rotfl: He loved her writing. It was fresh and he gave her a job based on that. So, pardon me if I beg to differ, but I think she totally did deserve it.
:D Lois is at the Planet! Lois is at the Planet!!!
Um.. no offense he convinced her to write the article.. he read it... he wanted her on there...
also if he loved it... he wouldn't use absurd at how good it is... and he jumped down her throat when she said "you gonna print it.."
Could it be possible... the article sucked, and because lack of proof gave him a way out of saying just that...
meteor_phreak
10-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Minela
Hahahhahaha! I'm lovin this from the Chloe fans. Ooooh, you just love to take things and twist it to your liking. :rotfl: He loved her writing. It was fresh and he gave her a job based on that. So, pardon me if I beg to differ, but I think she totally did deserve it.
:D Lois is at the Planet! Lois is at the Planet!!! umm...you did see the start of the episode right?
he made the offer at the beginning, contingent on her finishing the article. nobody's twisting anything.
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 07:14 PM
What I want to know is where the hell is Perry?
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Minela
No credentials? I think being employed by a paper is more credentials than writing for a highschool paper. Plus, he LOVED her writing. Papers are about talent people. Lois got talent. :D
Or the Editor is only giving Lois the job to get Chloe back to focusing on her work....
Sub Snake
10-04-2007, 07:14 PM
I love Lois, I honestly do. I like that she will one day be at the DP. W/ or w/o Chloe. But did they have to give her the job this way? Its so whack.
harryandginnyfanatic
10-04-2007, 07:15 PM
And I was so looking forward to hating him this season.
But he's exactly what I would expect from a DP editor.
If Pauline Kahn, Perry White and JJ Jameson from Spiderman had a threesome and had a baby, it would be just like Grant.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Sub Snake
I love Lois, I honestly do. I like that she will one day be at the DP. W/ or w/o Chloe. But did they have to give her the job this way? Its so whack.
Thank you!
Also see he wanted to give her the job anyway without knowing her background... that says something...
attitudejc
10-04-2007, 07:16 PM
seeing what i saw of him in this episode..i don't like him..and thats pretty much all im saying..cause its only one episode :\
Effect
10-04-2007, 07:16 PM
I'm not a huge Chloe fans but didn't care for him at all. It's his overall presentation. He came off as a complete jerk at best and an ahole at worse. Then again I think it kinda needed to happen.
Lex is clearly not going to be the "bad guy" in the story now. The government group is most likely going to be the big bad and that's directly related to Kara but we have to have another person to be against and Grant seems to fill the role.
I just don't like that at least for now it seems like they are trying to build up Lois by crapping on Chloe's character. You don't need to do that but that's what it looks like. I'm hoping that Chloe will either leave the Daily Planet for perhaps the Daily Star (that's where Clark and Lois originally worked when Superman first appeared in the comics (back when he couldn't fly but could just jump). The Daily Planet, flying, and seveal other things came later.). Or she she leaves the Planet and her character gets taken in a new direction that doesn't involve the paper at all.
Runestone
10-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Minela
No credentials? I think being employed by a paper is more credentials than writing for a highschool paper. Plus, he LOVED her writing. Papers are about talent people. Lois got talent. :D
From what we've heard, the Torch was more reputable than the Inquisitor, which is pretty sad. Chloe started with a college intership to get her foot in the door and she's taking classes at Met U in journalism. Lois barely graduated high school. There's no way she would be hired at a real newspaper with these "credentials".
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
umm...you did see the start of the episode right?
he made the offer at the beginning, contingent on her finishing the article. nobody's twisting anything.
He believed her story, he gave her a chance to write about it, he thought she had spunk and passion. That is why he gave her a chance. He still believed her story and LOVED her writing, but couldn't print it because of lack of facts. I think you seem to forget a certain article about vampires that got somebody else hired because the "...writing wasn't half bad..."
I was thinking of you guys when I watched Grant insult Chloe and I knew exactley what you'd say, and I was right. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Lois rightfully got intot the DP. She is here, she is not queer, get used to it!!!:D
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
And I was so looking forward to hating him this season.
But he's exactly what I would expect from a DP editor.
Look I understand being tough... but wanting a UFO story? When he could have had Lois write about anything legit? Where she can actually get facts...
It's like he new she wasn't gonna get proof...
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Also see he wanted to give her the job anyway without knowing her background... that says something...
What does it say? Hmmm? That he wants to bang her? If that is what you are getting at, you might as well say it now and get it over with.
meteor_phreak
10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
it says that credibility isn't that important to him
Heroes4Hire
10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
I liked him and it's good to see someone else at the Planet besides just Chloe and Lois and Clark. He gives the Planet attitude. And if anything Grant reminded me of how Lois acts in the future at the planet. Maybe he is her inspiration into being the hard as nail reporter that she becomes who knows. I think he'll be a great addition to the cast.
meteor_phreak
10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
neither is fact checking, integrity, or details.
uhhuhhim
10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
Yeah, I don't like him either. Anyone else notice how ****ing loud his voice was compared to the other characters? What the hell was that about?
Lois Lane sees a spaceship and that gets her the job? Give me a ****ing break. Oh, and here I thought "big bad" Lois was going to take down the Luthors? When pigs fly. Oh, that's probably Lois' next story since Chloe actually does grunt work. The only thing this Lois Lane has shown us is how some people in the world seem to think that being a complete ***** is how you get ahead in life. There's your planet, Minela.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Minela
What does it say? Hmmm? That he wants to bang her? If that is what you are getting at, you might as well say it now and get it over with.
I wouldn't even bang Lois and that says a lot...
You even got Lana and some Lois fans saying her getting in this way is screwed up....
Minela why don't you just admit you loved it because this episode was your dream, it bashed Chloe and made Lois look better reporter (funny that it was Lois who said Chloe was better then her)... And it got Lois to the DP regardless of how she got there...
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Look I understand being tough... but wanting a UFO story? When he could have had Lois write about anything legit? Where she can actually get facts...
It's like he new she wasn't gonna get proof...
Are we forgetting that UFO's are front page news for the DP? Chloe said it herself, a real UFO story is front page news for the DP. And not to mention a certain someone who flies around in blue tights and red cape...
The truth is Grant believed Lois, he liked her passion for the story, because he overheard her talking about it to Chloe (who by the way discredited herself by trying to convince Lois to let it go), and he probably saw something in Lois that reminded him of himself. He seems like the kind of reporter Lois Lane will become. So...there.
harryandginnyfanatic
10-04-2007, 07:23 PM
*sigh*
I should've seen this coming a mile away.
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 07:24 PM
In all fairness, he did mention the Torch twice. Which means he must have seen something in her. I loved the line about lighting the torch that went out after hs. He wants them both to compete, it only makes you work harder when there is something on the line.
Chloe has been slacking on the reporter side for a while, and this will be just the kick in the @ss she needs to get back to what she does best.
Still think he's a goober, tho.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
Yeah, I don't like him either. Anyone else notice how ****ing loud his voice was compared to the other characters? What the hell was that about?
Lois Lane sees a spaceship and that gets her the job? Give me a ****ing break. Oh, and here I thought "big bad" Lois was going to take down the Luthors? When pigs fly. Oh, that's probably Lois' next story since Chloe actually does grunt work. The only thing this Lois Lane has shown us is how some people in the world seem to think that being a complete ***** is how you get ahead in life. There's your planet, Minela.
THANK YOU...
Oh and Minela... enjoy this episode for Lois isn't in the next two...
and the next one... Chloe gets a major scoop... soo maybe the Editor will say she has her spark back
krpto
10-04-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
And I was so looking forward to hating him this season.
But he's exactly what I would expect from a DP editor.
If Pauline Kahn, Perry White and JJ Jameson from Spiderman had a threesome and had a baby, it would be just like Grant.
Exactly he loved the article and that lois didn't hold herself back she jumped into the story working to prove it and wrote a story he just said next time make sure you have proof so we can print it without looking like we are making things up since people don't beleave what is clearly laid out for them unless they see photographic evidence. Lois didn't hold back to protect someone she went in there and wrote the article so she got the job it was fair. And he is starting her at the basement till she gets proff even though she worked for a real paper not just a highschool tabloid filled with articles about strange people who may or may not have abilitys. Sorry but in real life lois would be higher then chloe now since she writes the articles and throws herself into them trying to prove them no matter what whereas chloe just sits at her desk and write articles that seem to be handed to her.
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I wouldn't even bang Lois and that says a lot...
You even got Lana and some Lois fans saying her getting in this way is screwed up....
Minela why don't you just admit you loved it because this episode was your dream, it bashed Chloe and made Lois look better reporter (funny that it was Lois who said Chloe was better then her)... And it got Lois to the DP regardless of how she got there...
You are right. I loved the way she got there, but not for the reason you think. I thought it was the exact way as Lois should get the job, based on her passion. And I've been singing the tune of Chloe slacking of in the journalism department for months now. Glad to see the writers adress it. I think you should be glad, this will prompt Chloe to get her butt in gear and write something for a change. Don't worry. I'm sure Chloe will impress the editore in another episode.
krpto
10-04-2007, 07:27 PM
Yah tptb do alot of airheaded things but having the editor put lois higher then chloe since she works for the storys is not one of them.
ninthdegree
10-04-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Look I understand being tough... but wanting a UFO story? When he could have had Lois write about anything legit? Where she can actually get facts...
It's like he new she wasn't gonna get proof...
mmmmm kind of like Meteor induced vampires?:D
As a huge Lois fan I was so scared that she wasn't going to deserve the job offer, but I'm so glad to say my fears were totally off. She got her job because someone recognized her budding talent and passionate writing.
lanaishot565
10-04-2007, 07:28 PM
im not a chloe hater or fan. im in between.
but i hate grant. How dare he say that about chloe. Chloe has been writing since hs. lois for about what a season and a half.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Minela
Are we forgetting that UFO's are front page news for the DP? Chloe said it herself, a real UFO story is front page news for the DP. And not to mention a certain someone who flies around in blue tights and red cape...
The truth is Grant believed Lois, he liked her passion for the story, because he overheard her talking about it to Chloe (who by the way discredited herself by trying to convince Lois to let it go), and he probably saw something in Lois that reminded him of himself. He seems like the kind of reporter Lois Lane will become. So...there.
No sh!t sherlock she was trying to let it go.. she was protecting Clark!
Also Clark was there... you would think Lois would get an interview with him or use him as evidence about seeing the ship uh? Oh wait Clark would say it wasn't a ship....
Regardless that it's true.. she got the job because she was given a tabloidish story to write...
Kahn said the same thing to Chloe about her Vampire article but she had facts to back it up... it was't published because the Planet doesn't do stories like that... soo... there
Lostfan588
10-04-2007, 07:30 PM
I have nothing against Lois at all this eppy....but GRANT?
What the hell is up with this guy?
An how has he done all this homework on Chloe? Someone he considers a nobody he suuuure knows an awful lot.
And he pretty much just handed Lois the job like some random person off the street! :lol:
Oh man! And why do they show us Chloe being all torn apart and stuff?
Just makes it seem like they want us to root for her to me.
Also the Clois scenes were funny tonight. I liked them.
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by xaosthry
In all fairness, he did mention the Torch twice. Which means he must have seen something in her. I loved the line about lighting the torch that went out after hs. He wants them both to compete, it only makes you work harder when there is something on the line.
Chloe has been slacking on the reporter side for a while, and this will be just the kick in the @ss she needs to get back to what she does best.
Still think he's a goober, tho.
Gabriel is smart. He doesn't babysit his reporters. He is going to set them up against eachother and get the best storys for the paper. That is what a good buisnessman does. Good for him.
tfkfan44
10-04-2007, 07:30 PM
chloe was hired for the DP because she got "spunk", also she was hired there in highschool because lionel bought the job for her. What has chloe done? no major stories, nothing. So now he hires lois because she has "passion" and her writing is good. so what will she do with the opportunity? well we already know that.
i really enjoyed this episode, and i like the new editor of the DP
hanemg
10-04-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
Ugh... I don't like him one bit. "Yeah, Lois, go ahead and give me a story about a spaceship. Oh, you can't back it up with facts? Ah well, here's a job anyway even though you have NO credentials..."
Isn’t that kind of like Kahn offering Chloe a job if she brings her a story, but afterwards when she can’t print it she gives her the job anyway even though she had said earlier she didn’t like her writing, felt she had gotten her original job though unethical means and actually had a party when she was fired?
I laughed out loud at that point because it just sounded so similar to how Chloe got into the Planet the last time.
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Of course there is no proof... but a UFO piece isn't something that news paper looked for...
The DP lowered it's standard on what it allows on it's pages and THAT was the Only way Lois was able to get hired
Uh…as mentioned above, didn’t Chloe herself say that a UFO, if true, was front page worthy of the Daily Planet itself? Seems to me that you’re just crying sour grapes, because the writers went out of their way to let us know that Grant was not only successful, but was admired by his peers, which doesn’t suggest any lowering of standards at all.
He just liked Lois’ moxy and her prose period. That’s not only believable, but let’s face it that’s also the exact same reasons Chloe fans feel that she got back onto the Planet’s staff.
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Or the Editor is only giving Lois the job to get Chloe back to focusing on her work....
Ahhh, I forgot the golden rule. Once again it’s all about Chloe. :rolleyes:
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Minela
Gabriel is smart. He doesn't babysit his reporters. He is going to set them up against eachother and get the best storys for the paper. That is what a good buisnessman does. Good for him.
Exactly, Chloe has been comfortable as a "filler" and he wants more out of her. If this is how he gets it, so be it.
Minela
10-04-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by ninthdegree
mmmmm kind of like Meteor induced vampires?:D
As a huge Lois fan I was so scared that she wasn't going to deserve the job offer, but I'm so glad to say my fears were totally off. She got her job because someone recognized her budding talent and passionate writing.
Amen!:D
Originally posted by xaosthry
Exactly, Chloe has been comfortable as a "filler" and he wants more out of her. If this is how he gets it, so be it.
That's what I'm saying. Bring on the friendly competition. I just hope Chlo Lo's relationship won't suffer in the process.
SteveS
10-04-2007, 07:33 PM
I can't say that I actually 'like' the guy, but I do like that he reamed lois, no one should ever waste a moment of polite courtesy on her crap, tell it like it is. The guy is trying to motivate both lois and Chloe in his own brusque sort of way. If Chloe efforts were truly deficient, she would be fired, she isn't so he is just trying to get her in gear.
As a rule of thumb, always return lois' general rudeness with rudeness, she is too dull to understand anything else.
harryandginnyfanatic
10-04-2007, 07:34 PM
I so want Grant to tell Clark off for always coming to a place he doesn't even work at.
Originally posted by Minela
I just hope Chlo Lo's relationship won't suffer in the process.
Me too.
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 07:35 PM
A real UFO story would be front page news for any paper, why do people keep bringing it up? I don't get it. Is it just for the sake of saying that it was in Chloe's words?
krpto
10-04-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
No sh!t sherlock she was trying to let it go.. she was protecting Clark!
Also Clark was there... you would think Lois would get an interview with him or use him as evidence about seeing the ship uh? Oh wait Clark would say it wasn't a ship....
Regardless that it's true.. she got the job because she was given a tabloidish story to write...
Kahn said the same thing to Chloe about her Vampire article but she had facts to back it up... it was't published because the Planet doesn't do stories like that... soo... there
chloe changed the names for the people in that article to protect clark, lana, and everybody else so the facts couldn't be checked and proven so the story wasn't printed but she still got a job at one of the best papers in the country if not the world with only a highschool education and no experience in the real world even with luthorcorp having her blackballed.
Lois hhas worked at a paper it may not be the most respected but she still works to find out the truth and prove what she beleaves she doesn't hide stories because they may be hard to prove she goes out at looks for the proof while chloe just writes the stories she wants and that are "easy" to prove. Face it to the outside world chloe has hit a slump and hasn't been a great reporter in a long time she is to busy worrying what people might think instead of being like lois and hamering her way through till she finds a great story.
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by The_Frag_Man
A real UFO story would be front page news for any paper, why do people keep bringing it up? I don't get it. Is it just for the sake of saying that it was in Chloe's words?
If Chloe didn't have to keep Clark's secret, she would have been the first one on that story.
ChlarkMe
10-04-2007, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Minela
Are we forgetting that UFO's are front page news for the DP? Chloe said it herself, a real UFO story is front page news for the DP. And not to mention a certain someone who flies around in blue tights and red cape...
The truth is Grant believed Lois, he liked her passion for the story, because he overheard her talking about it to Chloe (who by the way discredited herself by trying to convince Lois to let it go), and he probably saw something in Lois that reminded him of himself. He seems like the kind of reporter Lois Lane will become. So...there.
How could Grant really believe a UFO story? He doesn't know didly squat about Lois and right off the bat he believes she's being truthful about it. I speculate that if Perry didn't have proof that Superman could fly he wouldn't believe his mother so I don't buy that Grant believes a stranger that her UFO story is 100% on the level.
lana kent 04
10-04-2007, 07:39 PM
can't stand him. he almost seems too much like oliver queen and i don't like that. i'm no chloe fan, but i also don't like how he's playing lois and chloe against each other. if it weren't for chloe, lois would have no interest in journalism.
krpto
10-04-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by xaosthry
If Chloe didn't have to keep Clark's secret, she would have been the first one on that story.
exactly but the world doesn' know that they just see her as the once great reporter who now has gotten lazy and only goes after the easy stories unlike lois who works hard to prove anything and everything.
ninthdegree
10-04-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by lana kent 04
if it weren't for chloe, lois would have no interest in journalism.
Kinda like Clark?;)
Smit6178
10-04-2007, 07:50 PM
Oh, how I hated this character!
This is a storyline that I was not looking forward to, but his character was way worse than I expected.
As far as acting goes, he really seemed like a kid trying to act like a tough adult. Everything he said sounded phoney, and yes, it did seem more like he gave Lois the job because of his hots for her. His whole attitude seemed more like he was just a spoiled jerk rather than someone who is hardworking and disciplined. I work for a newspaper but if he were my boss I'd quit.
ninthdegree
10-04-2007, 08:04 PM
I loved him.
I'm kinda waiting for someone in this thread to cut all the pretense and be honest why some of us are thrilled and others are....much less so. But then again maybe it wouldn't be so wise to open that can of worms.
KryptonStones
10-04-2007, 08:05 PM
I'm sorry but despite my personal opinions, I thought Grant Gabriel brought something fresh to the show. I actually CARED about the Daily Planet this time, and the editor wasnt the usual, fast talking, nor stern and firm individual with a heart that has almost become cliche. I liked his pompous and somewhat obnoxious attitude.
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 08:06 PM
Yes, Grant is a weasel. I hold nothing against Lois in this episode. He hired Lois because he spotted a reporter hot on the trail of a story. It's not the story he was after, he wanted to see what she could do. Just like what Kahn did with Chloe. Neither story got printed.
savingpeoplething
10-04-2007, 08:10 PM
There's something really fishy about Grant.
Why is it that he knows EVERYTHING about Chloe before he even meets her even though she's working in the basement?
That seems off to me.
CrazyforKal
10-04-2007, 08:13 PM
I didn't like him at all. It's not that he did a bad job per se, he just wasn't old enough to be believable and I would prefer an actor that has more edge. His lines were brash, but he didn't sell it for me.
freefall
10-04-2007, 08:25 PM
For all those who keep harping on how the DP would never turn itself into a tabloid by being interested in a spaceship story, this is what Saint Chloe herself said way back in S2 during Duplicity, when Pete found Clark's spaceship:
Clark: Just guy stuff. Um, you're not really looking into this UFO story are you? I mean, it sounds like Inquisitor stuff.
Chloe: Maybe, but if there is some truth to it, that's front-page news. For the Daily Planet.
ChlarkMe
10-04-2007, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by CrazyforKal
I didn't like him at all. It's not that he did a bad job per se, he just wasn't old enough to be believable and I would prefer an actor that has more edge. His lines were brash, but he didn't sell it for me.
He may not be perfect, but if you saw his interview on the CW website he is so cute in a geeky kind of way. He would have made a great Jimmy.
morrigan01
10-04-2007, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by The_Frag_Man
A real UFO story would be front page news for any paper, why do people keep bringing it up? I don't get it. Is it just for the sake of saying that it was in Chloe's words?
What's funny about all of this (to me) is that in the comic Superman: Birthright, (the reset of Superman's origins) the owner of the Daily Planet made snide comments to Lois (to her face) about her writing a series of articles (that were published) about a "flying man who helped people" - and this was before she or anyone had a picture of Superman to back up the articles because Clark had been traveling the world (he was the flying man of course), but hadn't come up with the "Superman" idea yet.
All Lois had was a few eye witness accounts, but she smelled a story there - and she was proven right when Superman finally showed up.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 08:28 PM
seacrystal... that thing is... a UFO story like that... is NEVER assigned like how it was...
smallvillefreak24
10-04-2007, 08:30 PM
I liked him okay, he should be interesting, but i HATED the way he cut down chloe.
freefall
10-04-2007, 08:31 PM
Huh? Never assigned like what?
Sexyman
10-04-2007, 08:31 PM
Well it is the second episode and Lois already got he un-deserving job? Did she at least work for it?
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by smallvillefreak24
I liked him okay, he should be interesting, but i HATED the way he cut down chloe.
Wishing that is just his crass getting her off her tush and back on track.
krpto
10-04-2007, 08:32 PM
he didn't assign it he said you found the story and beleave you can prove it then write the article.
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
Huh? Never assigned like what?
If he believed it was credible I'm sure grant would have been out there himself looking because he would make a name for himself forever with some good evidence.
freefall
10-04-2007, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by morrigan01
What's funny about all of this (to me) is that in the comic Superman: Birthright, (the reset of Superman's origins) the owner of the Daily Planet made snide comments to Lois (to her face) about her writing a series of articles (that were published) about a "flying man who helped people" - and this was before she or anyone had a picture of Superman to back up the articles because Clark had been traveling the world (he was the flying man of course), but hadn't come up with the "Superman" idea yet.
All Lois had was a few eye witness accounts, but she smelled a story there - and she was proven right when Superman finally showed up.
Originally posted by krpto
he didn't assign it he said you found the story and beleave you can prove it then write the article.
Exactly.
Degobunny
10-04-2007, 08:37 PM
Grant was really harsh. He did have point though. Chloe has lost her passion to be a reporter. She has been too busy covering things up actually go out and find stories.
aqgalaxy
10-04-2007, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
Huh? Never assigned like what?
Grant told Lois to bring him that story....
No editor would do that in a legit newspaper
SteveS
10-04-2007, 08:38 PM
I think Grant Gabriel will thrive for a little while and then crash and burn. Just a feeling, but the arrogant and obnoxious need to be cut down to size periodically.
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by SteveS
I think Grant Gabriel will thrive for a little while and then crash and burn. Just a feeling, but the arrogant and obnoxious need to be cut down to size periodically.
Oh no!
freefall
10-04-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by The_Frag_Man
If he believed it was credible I'm sure grant would have been out there himself looking because he would make a name for himself forever with some good evidence.
He has already made a name for himself, he has been honoured by his own peers. So I don't get this post at all.
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Grant told Lois to bring him that story....
No editor would do that in a legit newspaper
Really?
xaosthry
10-04-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by SteveS
I think Grant Gabriel will thrive for a little while and then crash and burn. Just a feeling, but the arrogant and obnoxious need to be cut down to size periodically.
I want to see Chloe be the one to do it.
outsyder
10-04-2007, 08:41 PM
I hate the character, the actor also talked WAYYYYYYYY too loud as well. It got annoying.
RedKalEL
10-04-2007, 08:41 PM
i don't like him he did give lois as job at the planet which is awsome but other than that i don't like him. to tell you the truth i actually completely forgot he was goign to be on the show
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
He has already made a name for himself, he has been honoured by his own peers. So I don't get this post at all.
The first real evidence of aliens would put him in the history books. Can't you see how much it's a bigger deal? Theres a real alien ship out there, if he really believes Lois.
E: Feedback plz.
outsyder
10-04-2007, 08:49 PM
But still, overvauling Lois- who is essentially a HPOA with a tendency to get knocked on the head over the REAL investigative reporter in Chloe??? The dude is a dumba$$, annoying, and an extreme hypocrite. I think Gossip Girl lost a character and it just ended up on the wrong show :P...
freefall
10-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by The_Frag_Man
The first real evidence of aliens would put him in the history books. Can't you see how much it's a bigger deal? Theres a real alien ship out there, if he really believes Lois.
So that's all what editors are supposed to do? Steal their subordinates stories so they can run away with it and get their names printed in history books?
And here I am wondering why all those years Perry let Lois Lane to become more famous than himself. I mean, why on earth he'd ever let Lois dig for stories of flying aliens instead of himself then i.e. Birthright? Didn't he know the first real evidence of aliens would put him in history books? :rolleyes:
The_Frag_Man
10-04-2007, 08:52 PM
I'd take it. Screw the newbie.
morrigan01
10-04-2007, 09:39 PM
As far as Grant himself goes, I'm just going to steal (and modify) what someone else said: If Perry White and J. Jonah Jameson had son, it'd be Grant IMO. ;)
Mello Penelo
10-04-2007, 09:43 PM
I like Grant Gabriel. His no-nonsense attitude about journalism is something the show needs. He seems to know what he's doing. This guy has the role of an editor down pat. That's how all my editors act.
However, I noticed he said, "Stories pay the bills around here." This isn't true. Advertising pays the bills. I get his gist, but sales only contribute to like seven percent of all income for a newspaper. Tiny flub in the writing, but a statement screams at me.
Superman2007
10-04-2007, 09:44 PM
He reminds me of Tucker Carlson....a complete tool,lol. Oh and let's not give Grant too much credit, he didn't promote Lois to create a rivalry between the cousins or motivate Chloe, he did it to get into Lois' pants.
BadToad
10-04-2007, 09:48 PM
I don't mind the character, even though he is a bit of a jerk and obnoxious. I think thats sort of the point. However, I think the actor is totally miscast. Too young looking.
trying2b
10-04-2007, 09:51 PM
That guy just gave Lois a job so he could get in her pants.
The Grant Gabriel stuff was terrible, really bad actor, talks WAY too loud.
kiariclois
10-04-2007, 10:07 PM
I personally like Grant...
I think most people who hates him/or dislike him are Chloe's fans (mostly, not all)... I myself, am a Chloe's fan (just not too crazy about her)...
I think he's great... As I remember correctly, Chloe has never been told negatively about her article... I'm glad Grant did...
I think Grant may motivate Lois to be a great reporter she is bound to be... Smallville is after all going to follow Superman mythos... I'm super happy to see Lois arc in here... I'm so excited to see Lois in DP... :p
CLanaF23
10-04-2007, 10:22 PM
hes cute :)
Brizzle
10-04-2007, 10:23 PM
he is not cute but he is not ugly, but he is too young I must say, I mean he looks younger than Kara lol
ScottM1956
10-04-2007, 10:36 PM
I just don't see Grant as the Editor of the DP. To me an Editor is one that as paid his/hers dues in the industry. Way too young for a person to work on a paper that has no rivals. To me, this guy wouldn't even know what a printer's devil is
LoveHurts38
10-04-2007, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
THANK YOU...
Oh and Minela... enjoy this episode for Lois isn't in the next two...
and the next one... Chloe gets a major scoop... soo maybe the Editor will say she has her spark back
Yeah, so I am not going to watch them:D
SteveS
10-05-2007, 07:04 AM
Vaya con dios.
jimmyolsenblues
10-05-2007, 07:09 AM
I have no interest in any editor of the daily planet other than Perry White.
samanta
10-05-2007, 07:18 AM
I don't like him much. I don't think he's what Smallville needs. They have Kara as new character. He seems to me as waste of time. The time they could use to develope characters that are already in show.
The_Frag_Man
10-05-2007, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I have no interest in any editor of the daily planet other than Perry White.
Agreed. I hope to see Perry return to the show.
MackLove
10-05-2007, 09:13 AM
I only read a few pages of posts here, so someone might have mentioned it, but I think that GG only purpose, in the long run, is to hire Lois and get her promoted out of the basement.
He is not going to uphold the image of the DP and get fired. Then PW will come in and "save" paper, IMHO.
tariksam
10-05-2007, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
There's something really fishy about Grant.
Why is it that he knows EVERYTHING about Chloe before he even meets her even though she's working in the basement?
mmmm several reasons:
1. She was the girl who entered/was fired/rehired all beacuse a criminal.....she must be a legend there
or
2. He is her inmidiat boos and as a boss HAS to know everything about his emplyees???
He is not the editor in cheif btw for thsoe who are thinking how impossible is to him know everything about his employes....
Billy Jor-El
10-05-2007, 09:25 AM
HATE
Arrogant, egotistical, demeaning to beloved Chloe, overly gushing to Lois whom he really knows little (nothing?) about. Is he just hoping to get into her pants?
I thought only jimmy Olsen is allowed bow ties (thank you, Jack Larsen)
samanta
10-05-2007, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
There's something really fishy about Grant.
Why is it that he knows EVERYTHING about Chloe before he even meets her even though she's working in the basement?
That seems off to me. True. Besides he thinks Lois is good reporter while he didn't meet her before and probably didn't read her articles. I really think he's working for Lex or is some new psycho.
ginnyfan
10-05-2007, 09:38 AM
Tell it like it is, bottom line focused a** hole. At least he won't put me to sleep. At best he may shake things up at the Planet.
I like him. Chloe will knock his words back in his throat! (I hope.) If she doesn't it'll be because she's helping Clark save the world.
It's a thankless job but...
tariksam
10-05-2007, 09:40 AM
Wow great explanation cause Lois apprently never had a front page.
This must be a bad guy indeed....
To hell the bosses of the world that have to know everything about their subordinate.....all the ones who do that are EVOLHHHHHHHHHH
samanta
10-05-2007, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by tariksam
Wow great explanation cause Lois apprently never had a front page.
This must be a bad guy indeed....
To hell the bosses of the world that have to know everything about their subordinate.....all the ones who do that are EVOLHHHHHHHHHH In real world it's nothing bad but in Smallville it's suspicious.
Besides new character who isn't hero or canon is usually psycho. Just like Adam and Jason.
freefall
10-05-2007, 09:47 AM
A boss knows everything about his employees and that automatically makes him a psycho or a plant? :lol:
Originally posted by samanta
In real world it's nothing bad but in Smallville it's suspicious.
Actually there's nothing suspicious about it, but since he calls out on Saint Chloe but at the same time recognizes Lois' talents and hired her, of course it's suspicious. :rolleyes:
samanta
10-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by seacrystal
A boss knows everything about his employees and that automatically makes him a psycho or a plant? :lol: New noncanon character and possible love interest for one of girls is usually psycho (Jason, Adam). They looked normal too.
aqgalaxy
10-05-2007, 09:51 AM
So he's from the Star City Post...
Mike Mancini
10-05-2007, 09:53 AM
The guy kinda reminds me of J Jonah Jamieson the way he talks and moves. That's the first impression i got after seeing him.
tariksam
10-05-2007, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by seacrystal
A boss knows everything about his employees and that automatically makes him a psycho or a plant? :lol:
I guess my boss is trying to kill me then....he knows to which kindergarden I attended and that I was part of the student counciling in 9th grade....gaaaaa must I quit???
Originally posted by seacrystal
Actually there's nothing suspicious about it, but since he calls out on Saint Chloe but at the same time recognizes Lois' talents and hired her, of course it's suspicious. :rolleyes:
And THAT my friend sums all up
samanta
10-05-2007, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by seacrystal
Actually there's nothing suspicious about it, but since he calls out on Saint Chloe but at the same time recognizes Lois' talents and hired her, of course it's suspicious. :rolleyes: I don't care what he thinks about Chloe. I would hate if everyone believed she is perfect. It only makes things more interesting. I love Lionel and he used Chloe and then tried to kill her. So why it should bother me what some editor thinks about her?
Why everything have to be about Lois or Chloe or Lana? :rolleyes:
GaidinDre
10-05-2007, 10:06 AM
I liked him, he told Chloe exactly what she needed to hear. It's about time Chloe resumed her life and got out of the holding pattern she's been in. As for Lois I think it's possible he knew who she was already and wanted to test his premise that she has some talent. That way if he decided to hire her (as he eventually did) he could stick her in the basement thinking she's getting a break rather than her feeling like she's being courted and could ask for more.
Mello Penelo
10-05-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Runestone
Ugh... I don't like him one bit. "Yeah, Lois, go ahead and give me a story about a spaceship. Oh, you can't back it up with facts? Ah well, here's a job anyway even though you have NO credentials..."
She did back it up with facts. She had satellite images of the ship being taken away.
You're so anxious to bash Lois when Chloe got her job the exact same way. Her story about lesbian vampires was just as much crap and as unprovable as Lois' story.
The_Frag_Man
10-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by samanta
New noncanon character and possible love interest for one of girls is usually psycho (Jason, Adam). They looked normal too.
You have a point. Don't forget also the obvious one episode guys like the invisible assassin. (Whatever his name was)
E: I mean this is Smallville, it's probably true. Grant needs watering :lol:
MidgardDragon
10-05-2007, 10:39 AM
I love to hate him. He's a manipulative bastard and an *******, and that's just what his character is supposed to be, from what I can tell. I'm glad to see a driving force for both Lois and Chloe that's not-so-friendly.
The_Frag_Man
10-05-2007, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I love to hate him. He's a manipulative bastard and an *******, and that's just what his character is supposed to be, from what I can tell. I'm glad to see a driving force for both Lois and Chloe that's not-so-friendly.
Me too. They could both use a kick in the bum for their journalism careers.
skywalker28
10-05-2007, 10:43 AM
I don't hate him, but I don't like him. He was a little too brutal on my girl Chloe but, as said earlier, maybe it is the "superkick in the butt" that she needed.
Minela
10-05-2007, 10:47 AM
I completley agree. Let the wars begin!!! (in a family friendly way of course :)). I think this is a brilliant tactic by TPTB to get both fan camps (Chloe and Lois), to tune in and be entertained. My guess is it will go something like this: Chloe gets a scoop and gets a pat on the back, than Lois gets a story, than Chloe, than both end up on the front page, than Lois, than Chloe...you get my point. Everybody will be tuned in, than we have the Clana ship for all the Clana/Lana fans and we have hot Kara for everybody, and it looks like we will get a mature Clark this season, a new enemy the government and a few twists and turns with the Lex and Lionel characters. Brilliant, this season will rock!
ShelbyKent
10-05-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I don't like him because he's saying the DP is now about making money, not about reporting truth and justice... He's turning it to a tabloid No. He is not saying that the DP is all about the money.
Grant was mainly against the "old guard way of thinking" currently at the DP in which a potential story like Lois' spaceship one is automatically labelled as unprintable, because "it's just a spaceship story". Grant's way of thinking is that any story (no matter how ridiculous sounding at first) can be deemed printable/newsworthy [b]for as long as it's the TRUTH and there is PROOF. (His way of thinking will obviously prevail in the DP because in the future the DP will be known for writing news stories about a flying alien in blue tights and a red cape :lol: )
And there is nothing wrong with him wanting to sell more papers. That is afterall part of his job, and the DP is in the business of reporting and selling news papers. Grant said, "News stories sell papers" but he did qualify that the stories should tell the truth and must be backed up by proof.
It's not in Grant's job description to be nice. He was blunt and rude to both Lois and Chloe. He reminds me of Perry and Jonah Jameson. By pitting Lois and Chloe against each other, he figures he'd probably get two good reporters from the set-up and hopefully they'd be so competitive with each other that they'd BOTH pull themselves out of the basement eventually. Then Grant would have 2 good reporters at the DP mainfloor and he'd have more newsworthy stories to sell. Mission accomplished for him as editor in chief
Minela
10-05-2007, 10:57 AM
Well said.
kal-el_Girl
10-05-2007, 11:07 AM
where the hell is PERRY WHITE when we need him?
msleggie
10-05-2007, 11:28 AM
I know right! I didn't like this guy, he was way too skinny for starters. When I saw him for the first time I actually frowned, and the whole in your face, tell it like it is attitude wasn't working for me. It was to forced, he seemed like he was just putting on a show, it was like he wasn't even serious.
Superbeard
10-05-2007, 11:41 AM
I like Grant for the same reason I like Lois and Chloe and, when he was around, Adam. Given the nature of heavy drama in Smallville, brash characters who flat-out boss the other characters around and criticize them are more than welcome. Lana is the embodiment of everything I hate about the show's emotional pace. Clark and Lex aren't much better, they're always beating around the bush and speculating and dwelling and reflecting on things. Grant's blunt and to-the-point, and that's the kind of thing this show needs.
pizzaguy19
10-05-2007, 11:46 AM
I don't like him either. And I don't get this whole "he saw Lois's passion" thing. What passion? She didn't even finish a year of college, all this stupid Inquisitor stuff is just the writers trying to cram a weak characterization down our throats.
Mello Penelo
10-05-2007, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I love to hate him. He's a manipulative bastard and an *******, and that's just what his character is supposed to be, from what I can tell. I'm glad to see a driving force for both Lois and Chloe that's not-so-friendly.
Heck yes. I really like Grant. I hope he lasts more than half the season.
Routh
10-05-2007, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
No. He is not saying that the DP is all about the money.
Grant was mainly against the "old guard way of thinking" currently at the DP in which a potential story like Lois' spaceship one is automatically labelled as unprintable, because "it's just a spaceship story". Grant's way of thinking is that any story (no matter how ridiculous sounding at first) can be deemed printable/newsworthy [b]for as long as it's the TRUTH and there is PROOF. (His way of thinking will obviously prevail in the DP because in the future the DP will be known for writing news stories about a flying alien in blue tights and a red cape :lol: )
And there is nothing wrong with him wanting to sell more papers. That is afterall part of his job, and the DP is in the business of reporting and selling news papers. Grant said, "News stories sell papers" but he did qualify that the stories should tell the truth and must be backed up by proof.
It's not in Grant's job description to be nice. He was blunt and rude to both Lois and Chloe. He reminds me of Perry and Jonah Jameson. By pitting Lois and Chloe against each other, he figures he'd probably get two good reporters from the set-up and hopefully they'd be so competitive with each other that they'd BOTH pull themselves out of the basement eventually. Then Grant would have 2 good reporters at the DP mainfloor and he'd have more newsworthy stories to sell. Mission accomplished for him as editor in chief
Wonderfully stated, SK. :)
ShelbyKent
10-05-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Routh
Wonderfully stated, SK. :) Thanks, Routh! And I like my nickname :D
Mello Penelo
10-05-2007, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
No. He is not saying that the DP is all about the money.
Grant was mainly against the "old guard way of thinking" currently at the DP in which a potential story like Lois' spaceship one is automatically labelled as unprintable, because "it's just a spaceship story". Grant's way of thinking is that any story (no matter how ridiculous sounding at first) can be deemed printable/newsworthy [b]for as long as it's the TRUTH and there is PROOF. (His way of thinking will obviously prevail in the DP because in the future the DP will be known for writing news stories about a flying alien in blue tights and a red cape :lol: )
And there is nothing wrong with him wanting to sell more papers. That is afterall part of his job, and the DP is in the business of reporting and selling news papers. Grant said, "News stories sell papers" but he did qualify that the stories should tell the truth and must be backed up by proof.
It's not in Grant's job description to be nice. He was blunt and rude to both Lois and Chloe. He reminds me of Perry and Jonah Jameson. By pitting Lois and Chloe against each other, he figures he'd probably get two good reporters from the set-up and hopefully they'd be so competitive with each other that they'd BOTH pull themselves out of the basement eventually. Then Grant would have 2 good reporters at the DP mainfloor and he'd have more newsworthy stories to sell. Mission accomplished for him as editor in chief
Very well spoken. Grant has a point.
However, when he said, "Stories pay the bills," he was wrong. Advertising pays for 90 percent of all income at a newspaper. Classifieds and legal notices are about 7 percent and subscriptions and single copy sales are only 3 percent.
pycer
10-05-2007, 12:06 PM
True but without circulation advertisers wouldnt waste the money to advertise on a rag that only a handful of people ever read. Stories=paper circulation= advertisers interest
aqgalaxy
10-05-2007, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
No. He is not saying that the DP is all about the money.
Grant was mainly against the "old guard way of thinking" currently at the DP in which a potential story like Lois' spaceship one is automatically labelled as unprintable, because "it's just a spaceship story". Grant's way of thinking is that any story (no matter how ridiculous sounding at first) can be deemed printable/newsworthy [b]for as long as it's the TRUTH and there is PROOF. (His way of thinking will obviously prevail in the DP because in the future the DP will be known for writing news stories about a flying alien in blue tights and a red cape :lol: )
And there is nothing wrong with him wanting to sell more papers. That is afterall part of his job, and the DP is in the business of reporting and selling news papers. Grant said, "News stories sell papers" but he did qualify that the stories should tell the truth and must be backed up by proof.
He didn't say News Stories sell papers... He said "Bring me the story, a Story that sells paper"
He said "old guard way of thinking is the reason why news papers across the country are being thrown away..." So it's obvious he's looking for newer stories that are tabloidish... Lois could have given him fake photos and I bet you, he would publish it...
This is no different then the rival between The New York Post and The Daily News
In order to increase circulation, and to sell more papers if there are exciting stories... that are found in like the Inquisitor... Basically... Tabloid stories with some proof....
Mello Penelo
10-05-2007, 12:09 PM
The Inquisitor isn't competition for the Daily Planet. However, I do think USA Today and The New York Times are.
aqgalaxy
10-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Mello Penelo
The Inquisitor isn't competition for the Daily Planet. However, I do think USA Today and The New York Times are.
Yeah but he wanted Lois's story she's writing for the Inquisitor now didn't he?
The_Frag_Man
10-05-2007, 12:15 PM
That's true.
StrippedSmile
10-05-2007, 12:15 PM
I think he's an ass and isn't good enough for Lois. Sorry to anyone that likes him. Although I think he'll give Chloe the kick in the butt she needs to get back her uhm 'mojo' lawl. Thank god he's not around for the whole season.
MidgardDragon
10-05-2007, 12:17 PM
I think people are putting too much stock in the romance spoilers. Nothing in this episode has indicated he wants Lois as more than employee. That will probably change in the future but right now he's not a romantic interest.
samanta
10-05-2007, 12:25 PM
I don't care what he thinks about Chloe or Lois but I want him out. There's enough characters already. Now they brought in Kara too. They have MM and Oliver. I think it's enough characters for one show. I don't like that they send Martha away and brought in someone who will have only little to do with Clark's story.
MidgardDragon
10-05-2007, 12:32 PM
Oliver is a one or two episode guest star, Grant is a short arc guest character, Martha and Jonathon are gone, Pete's been gone forever now, how do we have too many characters?
Main characters: Clark, Lex, Lana, Chloe, Lois, Lionel, Kara
Guest star characters: Oliver, Bizarro, Martian Manhunter, Braniac, Grant Gabriel
Now let's look at Season 4's main characters: Clark, Lana, Lex, Chloe, Lionel, Martha, Jonathon, Jason
Guest star characters: Mrs. Teague, Isobell (should definitely count as a separate character as much as she shows up), Bridget Crosby, Kal-El, Alicia
So we have one less main character in Season 7 then we did way back in Season 4, and the guest stars don't really count, even though of the one's I listed we still have the same in Season 7 as we did in Season 4.
The_Frag_Man
10-05-2007, 12:36 PM
You left Jimmy out of your season 7 list.
samanta
10-05-2007, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Oliver is a one or two episode guest star, Grant is a short arc guest character, Martha and Jonathon are gone, Pete's been gone forever now, how do we have too many characters?
Main characters: Clark, Lex, Lana, Chloe, Lois, Lionel, Kara
Guest star characters: Oliver, Bizarro, Martian Manhunter, Braniac, Grant Gabriel
Now let's look at Season 4's main characters: Clark, Lana, Lex, Chloe, Lionel, Martha, Jonathon, Jason
Guest star characters: Mrs. Teague, Isobell (should definitely count as a separate character as much as she shows up), Bridget Crosby, Kal-El, Alicia
So we have one less main character in Season 7 then we did way back in Season 4, and the guest stars don't really count, even though of the one's I listed we still have the same in Season 7 as we did in Season 4. You forget Jimmy.
I would say season 7 should lead characters to theirs canon destiny. There will be probably only one more season. I would really like it more if they spend more time with characters they already had.
smallvilleobsessor17
10-05-2007, 01:04 PM
Ew, I do not like Grant at all. I want to strangle him with those stupid suspenders of his. :lol:
MidgardDragon
10-05-2007, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by The_Frag_Man
You left Jimmy out of your season 7 list.
My bad, so same number on both accounts.
skylar
10-05-2007, 01:07 PM
I don't like him to much either. He came arcoss as a A$$. Just the way he talked to Chole mad me upset. Glad he gave Lois a chance but he doesn't know Chole to speak that way to her.
MidgardDragon
10-05-2007, 01:09 PM
I always wonder why people dislike a character for what they do. I mean really dislike them, not just love to hate them. Grant's supposed to be that way to Chloe, it's how his character is written. We're not supposed to like the way he treats her. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy the character and how Chloe (will eventually) one ups him and puts him in his place. After all he can't be there forever since Perry White will eventually be the Chief.
morrigan01
10-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by samanta
I don't care what he thinks about Chloe or Lois but I want him out. There's enough characters already. Now they brought in Kara too. They have MM and Oliver. I think it's enough characters for one show. I don't like that they send Martha away and brought in someone who will have only little to do with Clark's story.
Well, who knows? Maybe Grant will end up giving Clark an entry-level position too before his time at the Daily Planet is up.
Hey, it's just a thought. ;) Clark's going to have to start working there somehow, or at least getting some more journalism experience since he hasn't written anything since HS, and doesn't appear to be attending college anymore either.
The fact is, Lois was always meant to end up at the DP! The way that was accomplished was however wrong! I mean I don't mind that Grant gave her a job based on a story, that is how you get in after all, what I mind is the way he demeaned Chloe and her talent. Playing favorites at the expense of others is plain wrong, and Chloe needs to stepher game up, for no other reason than to show Grant wrong, and make him choke on his own disgusting words!
lilkoolmaria
10-05-2007, 05:05 PM
I love him. He's confident, intelligent, and speaks his mind. I respect that in a person.
Minela
10-05-2007, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by lilkoolmaria
I love him. He's confident, intelligent, and speaks his mind. I respect that in a person.
I feel the same way, plus I totally have the hots for him in those sexy suspenders. :D
outsyder
10-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Grant Gabriel sucks... Gossip Girl lost an actor...
ShelbyKent
10-06-2007, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
So it's obvious he's looking for newer stories that are tabloidish... No. He's looking for true, real newsworthy & relevant stories that old style snooty news papers would automatically snub. If the DP keeps up it's old style way of thinking, then in the future it would miss out one of it's biggest headline ever: A sexy flying alien in blue tights and a red cape who has super strength and shoots fire from his eyes :lol: Hmmmmmm........... Mere tabloid fodder? Or Pulitzer prize-winning source material?
Plus in the SV Universe, aliens, spaceships, ancient artifiacts from a dead alien race, superpowered humans, billionaires funding human cloning projects with alien DNA are real; so they are fair game as subjects for legitimate news stories.
Lois could have given him fake photos and I bet you, he would publish it... And what proof do you have to back this conclusion? :confused: Events in Kara just proved that Grant won't run a story without evidence backing it up
DarkChilde
10-06-2007, 12:46 AM
I like the personality of the character, but I think the editor should older.
Shaftell
10-06-2007, 12:54 AM
He looks like a younger version of Lex and at times even sounds like him!
I hate him though, he's annoying.
Son of Kal-El20
10-06-2007, 08:10 PM
He may have spunk but I know the only reason he gave Lois the job was because he wants to get in her pants. Pervert.
Raistlin
09-15-2011, 11:29 AM
not to mention, he totally gave lois a job offer she doesn't deserve.
Uh, *yeah!*
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