Eww, clones?!

[i luv tom welling]

I never once thought that Lex would clone Lana. That is just so totally creepy.

[clanafanforever]

i wonder what the phsycopath was going to the clone for anyway. chloe was right he does need major help

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by i luv tom welling
I never once thought that Lex would clone Lana. That is just so totally creepy.

Oh...so its true?:eek:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

almiles take your asses for a long walk off a short pier you really have no concept of creativity

:mad:

[paolinki25]

Clones are a delicate subject that only fewer shows have managed to pull off (The X-Files, for example)

[BenSjamin]

Not the Evil Lana thing everyone was going for though. But they did get the clone thing right.

[Honey45]

Why did he clone her in the first place?
That's what was weird to me.

Kristin's wax figure looked pretty good. But almost.. prettier than her? :lol:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

haha here comes madame-tussauds asking for the wax figure to put on show

:lol:

[SecretzNLyz15]

It's amazing that I wrote out my theory on how this would go last night and it hits the bulleye completely. Kinda cool.

Who knows why Lex made a Lana doll. Maybe his insecurities and fears of losing her was too much to bear without having a back up? Disgusting, but I'm sure it makes sense in Lex's dysfunctional mind.

[Alexander III]

So is the real Lana...dead?

[Superhuman_Devotion]

Originally posted by Alexander III
So is the real Lana...dead?

No the real Lana is alive, she used the Lana clone to fake her death. The Lana clone was in the car when it exploded as the real Lana jumped in the back of that milk truck that passed by right before it went boom.

[ShelbyKent]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
It's amazing that I wrote out my theory on how this would go last night and it hits the bulleye completely. Kinda cool.

Who knows why Lex made a Lana doll. Maybe his insecurities and fears of losing her was too much to bear without having a back up? Disgusting, but I'm sure it makes sense in Lex's dysfunctional mind. Yeah it makes sense for Lex. :\

Remember his nightmare during Lexmas? His worst fear was losing Lana. I guess cloning Lana was Lex's psycho way of coping with that fear :\

But yay! I was right in guessing that model 503 was the Lana clone.

And kudos to that K-site poster who freeze-framed a picture of the Lana clone while it was lying down amongst the other clones in reeves dam last season. NIce catch! :D

*note: I havent watched the eppi yet so forgive me if I say something unintelligible...am basing my comments on the posts previous to mine* :\

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by Superhuman_Devotion
No the real Lana is alive, she used the Lana clone to fake her death. The Lana clone was in the car when it exploded as the real Lana jumped in the back of that milk truck that passed by right before it went boom.

Wow...that's hilarious hearing the real Lana using the Lana clone. So is the real lana coming back to smallville from china anytime soon? And move in w/ Clark and Kara? It'll be very interesting to watch!!!

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by ShelbyKent
Remember his nightmare during Lexmas? His worst fear was losing Lana. I guess cloning Lana was Lex's psycho way of coping with that fear :\


lex couldnt have solely created the lana clone for the purpose of not losing the real lana for what happened in lexmas as its already been stated very clearly that lana died because she wasnt able to be transported to a metropolis hospital from smallville

lex asked lionel for the resources (money) to help save lana

thats why lex chose money over his happiness as he reconed that having money will get him lana and save her for if she had been in that sitaution

[KEakaCK]

Wow...I must of missed the whole clone Lana thing. I didn't know Lana was cloned at all.

[Poweranimals]

Originally posted by Superhuman_Devotion
No the real Lana is alive, she used the Lana clone to fake her death. The Lana clone was in the car when it exploded as the real Lana jumped in the back of that milk truck that passed by right before it went boom. So the clone is dead?

[Honey45]

Originally posted by Poweranimals
So the clone is dead?

I think it was never actually "alive". It was like her body was cloned, but they hadn't jump started her brain yet.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

the clone was never alive to get killed anyway

if it was alive that would bring a whole new meaning to the word "suicide"

:lol:

[Poweranimals]

Ah, interesting. Well that's good news.

[Superboy2]

That would also be murder.

[i luv tom welling]

Lana must have also been extremely desperate, though, to 'kill' her own clone. Even if it didn't have a functioning brain or whatever, wouldn't you have trouble destroying something that is genetically identical to you?

Heck, I'd have saved it in case I needed a kidney at some point :p

[SecretzNLyz15]

The clone was NEVER alive. Lex even said that. Lana didn't 'kill' anything. She just took the body and put it in the car.

[clarkbunny]

^
Ha ha ha - saved it in case you needed a kidney!

This whole clone thing makes no sense. In order for it to grow it would have had to have been alive. Dead things do not grow.

So the clone must have been alive just in some sort of stasis (sp?) or something.

So here we have another body count to add to Lana's serial killings - she has killed so many people I have lost count - now she's killed herself - and even that didn't stop her :lol:

What I don't get is how did Lana knew about the clone of herself or even the 33.1 project at the dam? She didn't know about any of that, or are we supposed to believe that she found all this out from the files on Lex's computer when him and Clark were trapped in the tunnels? Also I am wondering how she would manage to take the clone out of the high security 33.1 project?? Even the Justice League didn't know about it. I highly doubt Lex's security would just let her in and then let her walk out with a clone of HERSELF?!?

Perhaps we just need to forget about sprinkling sand on the invisible path over the chasm and just take a 'Leap of faith' on this plotline :lol:

I can't wait to watch the episode now to see how this all transpires.

[SecretzNLyz15]

The clone was already dead when Lana stole it. Lana didn't kill anything. Lex even said that it was dead, that's why he didn't notice it missing. Lana has NEVER murdered anyone.

It was self-defense in season three and Isobel in season four.

[Honey45]

Originally posted by i luv tom welling
Lana must have also been extremely desperate, though, to 'kill' her own clone. Even if it didn't have a functioning brain or whatever, wouldn't you have trouble destroying something that is genetically identical to you?

Heck, I'd have saved it in case I needed a kidney at some point :p

Actually, I would be more worried to have something like that alive. It'd be the whole "I'm the real me - she's lying!", "No I'M the real me" etc.

Though it is handy if you ever want to fake your own death and whatnot.

[i luv tom welling]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Also I am wondering how she would manage to take the clone out of the high security 33.1 project?? Even the Justice League didn't know about it. I highly doubt Lex's security would just let her in and then let her walk out with a clone of HERSELF?!?


Maybe it was so secret it didn't need security :p lol, but then there's Lois in "Bizarro" waltzing into Lex's study to find documents about what was going on in the dam. I think by now we can safely conclude that however rich the Luthors are, they just can't afford good security!

[clarkbunny]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
The clone was already dead when Lana stole it. Lana didn't kill anything. Lex even said that it was dead, that's why he didn't notice it missing. Lana has NEVER murdered anyone.

It was self-defense in season three and Isobel in season four.

Well maybe not killing with intent, but she certainly has racked up the body count. There have been more than 7 deaths at the hands of Lana. One of which included kicking a guy so he was impaled on a pitch fork. She ran over the gossip journalist there have been many others I was making a mental note but then I lost count. Lots were in the earlier seasons.

I haven't seen the latest episode so how did the clone die? It must have been alive at some point in order for Lex to say that it died. Who was he saying that to anyway? We all know how Lex spins a convincing lie, he had me believing that Wes Keenan had really died after the helicopter accident b4 we found out otherwise.

[i luv tom welling]

Lana used the clone in the season finale to fake her own death, by placing it in her vehicle then blowing it up. That way when the authorities found the body, it would be genetically identical to herself, so it would appear that she really was dead.

[clarkbunny]

Originally posted by i luv tom welling
Maybe it was so secret it didn't need security :p lol, but then there's Lois in "Bizarro" waltzing into Lex's study to find documents about what was going on in the dam. I think by now we can safely conclude that however rich the Luthors are, they just can't afford good security!

Ha ha, well after what Bizarro did to Lex's security guard at the prison i'm not surprised he finds it hard to get good security - or ANY security!

Luthor security guard advert: Good pay, uniform, prestigious client. Medium to high risk of having heart ripped out of your chest by crazy super human beings :lol:

Hmmm....where do I apply?!

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Well maybe not killing with intent, but she certainly has racked up the body count. There have been more than 7 deaths at the hands of Lana. One of which included kicking a guy so he was impaled on a pitch fork. She ran over the gossip journalist there have been many others I was making a mental note but then I lost count. Lots were in the earlier seasons.

I haven't seen the latest episode so how did the clone die? It must have been alive at some point in order for Lex to say that it died. Who was he saying that to anyway? We all know how Lex spins a convincing lie, he had me believing that Wes Keenan had really died after the helicopter accident b4 we found out otherwise.

Who has Lana killed with intent?

Lex was explaining how Lana escaped and faked her death to Lana. He said that it would have been easy to steal the clone since it was already dead. Lex was talking to Lana. No reason to lie about the clone to her.

You should watch the scene for more in-depth dialogue of the escape. It's fact that Lana did NOT kill the clone. You can't kill what's already dead.

[clarkbunny]

^
No I meant she has killed lots of people but perhaps NOT with intent.

Although she did intend for Lex to die in the tunnels if Clark had not also been there. I am also pretty sure I saw Lana point a gun at someone and shoot them - it was self defence but she did intend to shoot them dead. I may have imagined this though!

[SecretzNLyz15]

If Lana didn't have intent, she's not a murderer. The pitch fork was self-defense, GT was Isobel. That DP water chick was an accident.

I don't remember Lana shooting and killing anyone.

[clarkbunny]

She may not have intended to kill those people but it sure makes for a disturbing body count for someone who's supposed to be so good.

And you still can't get away from the fact that she INTENDED to kill Lex - TWICE!
Once when he was possessed by Zod (even Clark thought twice about doing that - not Lana, she was like "Gimme the knife already" :lol: ) then a second time when she intended to let him die in the tunnel.

Lana's a bad girl, a dark angel....

[SecretzNLyz15]

Uh..Lex WAS Zod. If that was the only way to kill Zod, it had to be done. Don't forget that Lana was going to do what Clark was originally supposed to do.

[Kid Collins]

I bet since Lana blew up her clone, Lex had to resort to Lana lookalike blow up dolls to keep him company.

He's such a loser.

:rolleyes:

[BWOracle]

Lex had Wes kill all of his good guards in Prototype. The current ones are just rentals.

Lana did point a gun and fire at the doctor in Freak. Clark stopped the bullet and the doctor was killed from the ricoche of his weapon. Although, Lana was acting to save what's his name's life.

[skully]

Ah ha, just as I have been saying for weeks. The clone is already gone. And the fact that it was never "alive" removes the Lana haters claims of "she's a murderer, burn her at the stake".

Neatly done TPTB.

[Timester]

Originally posted by skully
Ah ha, just as I have been saying for weeks. The clone is already gone. And the fact that it was never "alive" removes the Lana haters claims of "she's a murderer, burn her at the stake".

Actually, it sends her to the other spoilers stake. ;)

No, I'm not going to tell here, if you (not you, skully, I meant everyone) want to know, check the spoilers forum.

Anyway, I haven't seen the episode yet, I hope that they did explained how the hell Lana took the clone out from the dam.

[TrevorH]

CLONES! :O ATTACCCKK!

[Timester]

OK, just saw the Lexana scene. Does Lana know that Lex could take her back to America and public execute her and the cops couldn't do nothing? He is already being convicted for her death, he can't be convicted for the same crime twice.

[skully]

Originally posted by Timester
Actually, it sends her to the other spoilers stake. ;)

No, I'm not going to tell here, if you (not you, skully, I meant everyone) want to know, check the spoilers forum.

Anyway, I haven't seen the episode yet, I hope that they did explained how the hell Lana took the clone out from the dam. Actually, my bad on talking about the Lana clone here. Apologies.

This whole "Canucks see the episode before the rest of us" has hairs on it and might keep the Mods very busy in removing spoilers before the episode airs in the US.

^^^
Actually scrub that, I just read supperhippie's importnat notice on the Canadian earlier episode situation.

[biggkoz]

Im gonna clone myself so that one will go to work and I can hang out at the beach.

[AngelaV]

Creepy Lex. Oh wait, he's always been creepy. Super creepy Lex :)

[adromidon]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
^
Ha ha ha - saved it in case you needed a kidney!

This whole clone thing makes no sense. In order for it to grow it would have had to have been alive. Dead things do not grow.

So the clone must have been alive just in some sort of stasis (sp?) or something.

So here we have another body count to add to Lana's serial killings - she has killed so many people I have lost count - now she's killed herself - and even that didn't stop her :lol:

What I don't get is how did Lana knew about the clone of herself or even the 33.1 project at the dam? She didn't know about any of that, or are we supposed to believe that she found all this out from the files on Lex's computer when him and Clark were trapped in the tunnels? Also I am wondering how she would manage to take the clone out of the high security 33.1 project?? Even the Justice League didn't know about it. I highly doubt Lex's security would just let her in and then let her walk out with a clone of HERSELF?!?

Perhaps we just need to forget about sprinkling sand on the invisible path over the chasm and just take a 'Leap of faith' on this plotline :lol:

I can't wait to watch the episode now to see how this all transpires.
Ah but in the fairy tale world of Smallville clones can be made to resemble any age

[Runestone]

Al and Miles just want to put as many Lanas into a scene as possible because she's so WONDERFUL.

[Merfish]

It destory the episode, I mean really? why did they need to start the season like that

[Ardiem3]

I dont know but why are all clones created for the wrong reasons and why do they always bring either pain, confusion, or both. Thats not fair to them clones!! haha. Well, hopefully, the clone thing was only for this episode. The last thing we need is another breathing, love struck, confused, Lana on the show : (

[heromyth]

You think Lex is creepy for making a Lana doll? Check out the video below.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3710987618964917848

[Randy G.]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
The last thing we need is another breathing, love struck, confused, Lana on the show : (

Lol! Amen! :lol:

[Mr. Clark Kent27]

I was just about to post a thread on this and God it was awful. That's exactly what I was going to write, Lana clones...eww. I can't believe Lex got there so fast and found Lana in Shanghai. I was totally creeped out by this.

[smallvillefreak24]

i completley agree with the title. eww clones wtf clones what next i guess the whole situation is interesting but come on y did he clone her in the 1st place. i hope theres a reason besides that he is creepy beyond all reason

[Merfish]

cloning was a bad turn for the show

[Superboy2]

So who has she killed besides Genevieve?

[SecretzNLyz15]

^^ That was Isobel, not Lana.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

When I saw that scene, my mind immediatly went to this manga
I'm into about a robotic boyfriend and I thought 'So, Lex
wanted his own absolute girlfriend.'

The whole thing is wierd and creepy, and funny if you put
it in the right light. I mean, he was so freaking obsessed,
he made his very own Lana doll. (Nicely put, BTW heromyth.)

What surprises me is the technological leaps it
took to do this. I mean, jeez, first aliens, and then a bunch of
clones running around ? (okay, destroyed by a flood. Whatever.)

Eh, but I guess you can't underestimate a crazy billionaire.

[ginnyfan]

Weird... just... weird. But funny when I think of her lugging it to her car. LOL!

[Serynarpc]

That is crazy. I guess Lex was afraid of losing her- and created a Lana that would never leave him. Except it seems Real Lana was onto him and his sick joke.

I wonder... is that what the fake pregnancy was all about, getting her DNA and all?

[adromidon]

Why did Lex spend so much money doing that stuff when he could spend the money to research cloning of vital organs for someone that is about to go into surgery

[KEakaCK]

Originally posted by adromidon
Why did Lex spend so much money doing that stuff when he could spend the money to research cloning of vital organs for someone that is about to go into surgery


Thats taking the whole can't live without you to a whole new lever...:D

[Timester]

About cloning, clones are not new on Smallville. Remember Emily Dinsmore?

[pizzaguy19]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Uh..Lex WAS Zod. If that was the only way to kill Zod, it had to be done. Don't forget that Lana was going to do what Clark was originally supposed to do.

It obviously didn't HAVE to be done, seeing as Clark didn't do it in the end.

---

On topic though, meh Lex is an evil badass, he can clone whoever he wants as far as I'm concerned. Just put it on his "evilness expenses" tab. I'm sure we haven't heard the end of these clones, or model 503.

dunno what they could have meant by "never alive" though, did the bodies not grow from testtubes? Maybe lex created all his army bodies whole and in adult form. Then he stuck a lana one in there to create a Lana with super powers. Too bad Bizarro had to ruin his dam, that would hav been cool.

[adromidon]

Originally posted by KEakaCK
Thats taking the whole can't live without you to a whole new lever...:D Yeah but seriously though if you new you had to get a liver transplant down the road and someone like Lex could take a few of your cells and make you an identical liver with no defects would you do it?

[Guidron]

Hey... what if Lex was cloning Lana to try and find out what she knew about Clark?

[Jephael]

Originally posted by Guidron
Hey... what if Lex was cloning Lana to try and find out what she knew about Clark?

Makes sense to me, especially considering all that happened after the wedding episode.

[jr23tw]

Originally posted by pizzaguy19
dunno what they could have meant by "never alive" though, did the bodies not grow from testtubes? Maybe lex created all his army bodies whole and in adult form. Then he stuck a lana one in there to create a Lana with super powers. Too bad Bizarro had to ruin his dam, that would hav been cool.

None of those bodies in that room were clones. Wasn't it in Prototype that they said Lex got those men from the army? Those who died in combat or something along those lines. Fact is none of them were clones.

The only 'clone' that was there in that room was Lana's. If that was even what one would consider a clone by definition.

[skywalker28]

I can see it now.....

Lana's Big Secret - she is secretly building a clone army to conquer the world and in the season finale: Attack of the Lana Clones.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Wasn't it a poster called LiteW8 that predicted the Lana Clone, this past summer? I want to apologize to him for thinking he was the "guy with the crazy Clone Theory":lol:

[Superboy2]

I'm thinking that the dam was only the testing ground for the alien DNA to be put into the soliiers and that there are other soldiers and Lex can still have an army.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SparkleforSmallville
Wasn't it a poster called LiteW8 that predicted the Lana Clone, this past summer? I want to apologize to him for thinking he was the "guy with the crazy Clone Theory":lol:

oh please dont add wood to the fire :(

that guy still insists along with alot of other people that the clone is still alive or even yet that the lana we have seen in the last 2 eps is actually the clone :\

[Captivated]

I didn't think anything could be worse than Lana as a witch or vampire...

If the Lana that comes back is a CLONE?! Heads will roll.

What is the deal with the writers constantly abusing this character!?

[SparkleforSmallville]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
oh please dont add wood to the fire :(

that guy still insists along with alot of other people that the clone is still alive or even yet that the lana we have seen in the last 2 eps is actually the clone :\
Yeah, It's pretty funny, but I have to admit that I didn't think there would be a Lana clone at all. I don't think the Lana Clone will be back. TPTB had to tie up some loose ends to bring Lana back home.IMO

[Kriminal]

Originally posted by i luv tom welling
I never once thought that Lex would clone Lana. That is just so totally creepy.

typical lex luthor style, he will do anything if it's possible.

[xrayvision]

I hope Clark encounters Lex about why he made a Lana clone after he finds out. One thing I don't think we'll find out is why he kept it with his soldiers. Did he think that it was the most protected place to keep her since he didn't want anyone finding out about her? I hope we get a background story, like how Lana found out about the clone, how she fooled Lex, if anyone helped her (like the guy in the postal truck), etc.

Knowing Lex as sick as he is, he was using the clone for some lovin' since the real Lana wasn't giving him any.

[SmallvilleAngel07]

It was REALLY CREEPY!! BUT OMG here is a SPOILER WARNING but Thursday night when it showed the previews for next Thurs it said The Lana that went to China...Is not the Lana that returns. And it has her and Clark hugging. So I guess it means its a clone?? OMG its terrible! :eek:

[Charissa70]

I think with all the weird scripts and not making sense, that this is Clone Lana and not the real ? Lana (there is another thread on this).

1. she was not wearing pink BUT-she was wearing an ugly blond wig-Lana would not want to be on the 'don't' fashion page
2. Lex was able to find her very fast with technology-she must have had something inplanted in her OR she was stupidly using his AMEX card. (could believe that)
3. She didn't kill him-she has plans for him
4. He said the clone was 'dead' , not in suspended animation-dead would mean the body would be rotting
5.Lana is normally helpless, how did she drag/carry her clone by herself? Karate would not help in this case. You figure Lex would make his Lana clone stronger.
6.He would probably put some of his traits in any clone, and he doesn't think twice of getting rid of someone in the way. He complemented Lana and said she was brilliant (?) ...
7. While Lana can still be on the show, Clark can finally break away from her and move on if it isn't the real Lana. So both sides win with the 'Lana' fight.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Originally posted by i luv tom welling
I never once thought that Lex would clone Lana. That is just so totally creepy.

Yeah, that was really creepy....

[gategod]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
almiles take your asses for a long walk off a short pier you really have no concept of creativity

:mad:

you can say that 1000 more times. I mean wtf.. "i found a clone, framed you for murder and killed then killed it, oh and then i wanted you to find me anyway so i could not shoot with my gun," haha have they ever heard of imagination >.>

lol :lol: not to put them down or anything ;)

[ShelbyKent]

I just want to say that I have no intention of getting into the "Is Lana a murderess?" argument. OK, with that out of the way.....

What did Lex exactly mean that the clone "wasn't alive"? Because when you clone any living organism, (especially a whole human being), it will be composed of live cells. And the Lana clone was looking pretty healthy to me. The tissue hasn't decomposed and the skin wasn't discolored (which is what will happen if your heart stops pumping blood throughout your body).

Could it be that the Lana clone was merely not conscious? Or maybe it was just an empty shell? No organs, no brain, no heart etc..

*clone induced headache* :\

[freefall]

Originally posted by ShelbyKent
I just want to say that I have no intention of getting into the "Is Lana a murderess?" argument. OK, with that out of the way.....

What did Lex exactly mean that the clone "wasn't alive"? Because when you clone any living organism, (especially a whole human being), it will be composed of live cells. And the Lana clone was looking pretty healthy to me. The tissue hasn't decomposed and the skin wasn't discolored (which is what will happen if your heart stops pumping blood throughout your body).

Could it be that the Lana clone was merely not conscious? Or maybe it was just an empty shell? No organs, no brain, no heart etc..

*clone induced headache* :\

Maybe it's something like the "brain dead" situation, that although the brain isn't functioning at all, it's also possible that a person's blood circulation and respiration is still continuing in the body, the heart is still beating and pumping blood.

That's what I could understand from the "brain dead" definition, maybe someone from a medical background could correct me if I'm wrong. And I've also read that if you touch a person who's brain dead, the skin would still be warm and not discoloured at all.

So IMO that's what Lex meant when he said the clone was dead and I don't think the clone is an empty shell, since from what I understand "brain dead" is currently the definition of "death" itself.

[litew8]

Originally posted by SparkleforSmallville
Wasn't it a poster called LiteW8 that predicted the Lana Clone, this past summer? I want to apologize to him for thinking he was the "guy with the crazy Clone Theory":lol: :lol:
Thanks SparkleforSmallville!
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[finalbahamut]

Originally posted by Alexander III
So is the real Lana...dead?

Are you even watching the episode?

The cloning concept sure is not so good. They could have come up with a good plot better than that.


Originally posted by seacrystal
Maybe it's something like the "brain dead" situation, that although the brain isn't functioning at all, it's also possible that a person's blood circulation and respiration is still continuing in the body, the heart is still beating and pumping blood.

That's what I could understand from the "brain dead" definition, maybe someone from a medical background could correct me if I'm wrong. And I've also read that if you touch a person who's brain dead, the skin would still be warm and not discoloured at all.

So IMO that's what Lex meant when he said the clone was dead and I don't think the clone is an empty shell, since from what I understand "brain dead" is currently the definition of "death" itself.
Yup I must agree coz if it's an empty what organ will support nutrients to the outer layer which is the skin to keep it from decomposing. Btw why is the clone brain dead?

[adromidon]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I hope Clark encounters Lex about why he made a Lana clone after he finds out. One thing I don't think we'll find out is why he kept it with his soldiers. Did he think that it was the most protected place to keep her since he didn't want anyone finding out about her? I hope we get a background story, like how Lana found out about the clone, how she fooled Lex, if anyone helped her (like the guy in the postal truck), etc.

Knowing Lex as sick as he is, he was using the clone for some lovin' since the real Lana wasn't giving him any. He called it model 503 so what if his goal was to make it a soldier like he did with that guy in prototype. He could then use it to get close to Clark and occationaly beat him up for him

Lana is alive her clone was dead at least that is all we know as of yet.

[freefall]

Originally posted by finalbahamut
Yup I must agree coz if it's an empty what organ will support nutrients to the outer layer which is the skin to keep it from decomposing. Btw why is the clone brain dead?

Maybe there's some mechanism to prevent the brain from functioning unless Lex or one of his minions activate it for a specific purpose. Like they did with Wes.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by adromidon
He called it model 503 so what if his goal was to make it a soldier like he did with that guy in prototype. He could then use it to get close to Clark and occationaly beat him up for him

Lana is alive her clone was dead at least that is all we know as of yet.

But why make a clone soldier Lana? I want to find out why.

[clarkbunny]

What a complete waste of a clone! All this fuss over a Lana clone and she was only brought in as a decoy to fill in for Lana while she fled to China - only to leave clues for Lex to find her again - POINTLESS!

If they are going to put clones in Smallville I want them to do something interesting rather than just sit in a car and be blown up.

Whether the clone was brain dead or not - it would have been alive just not conscious and Lana killed it - Yes she KILLED it.

The whole plot line (or should I say HOLE?) is just ridiculous. What with the whole Lexana relationship in the papers, the whole world or at least the US, Metropolis & Smallville knew about Lana's death. The coroner has a body with Lana's fingerprints and that looks like her. Someone has already been arrested for her murder. How is she ever going to show her face in Smallville again without blowing the lid on the whole Lana clone thing? How can she explain that she is not dead despite someone with the same fingerprints being in the morgue. The world is going to want answers. She can only come back to Smallville if she adopts a new identity. So perhaps that is what they mean by the whole - the Lana that left is not the one that returns thing.

Perhaps the blond wig will be making a guest appearance in the next episode and Clark will spot a blond haired girl in Smallville that looks oh so familiar and makes him do a double take. :rolleyes:

If this actually turns out to be the case - don't forget you read it here first :p

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lex didn't say that the clone was brain dead. He said dead. It was never alive. Lana didn't murder anyone.

[clarkbunny]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Lex didn't say that the clone was brain dead. He said dead. It was never alive. Lana didn't murder anyone.

Ugh, how can something have living tissue and never have been alive?? A clone is a living organism so it had to have been alive - you cannot grow dead things that makes no sense. The only way Lex's sentence makes sense was if the clone was brain dead and never gained consciousness. If the clone was dead then it would not have looked healthy when Lana dragged it to the car it would have been all blue/off colour and decomposing - AND the coroner would have been able to tell if the body was already dead before being burnt in the car.

Anyhoo the main point I am making is about the major plot hole this whole clone thing is not about whether or not Lana killed the clone.

[litew8]

If this whole RIDICULOUS plot of Real Lana blew up the Clone Lana is real -

THAT DOES MAKE LANA LANG A MURDERER!
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

She didn't know that it wasn't 'alive'.
She thought it was 'alive'.
She PREMEDITATED.
THEN SHE KILLED IT.
COLD BLOODED MURDERER.
Saying that she didn't kill it because it was 'already dead' is BULL-HOCKEY because she only learned of that AFTER she MURDERED it.

Just ANOTHER reason why the Lana we all saw MUST be the EVIL-CLONE! Either that or the producers of the show are SCREWING UP EVERYTHING! For Lana fans and non-Lana fans alike. They are making Lana fans COLD BLOODED MURDERER fans! The producers should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY if this is what they have done!

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

queues omen music

:lol:

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
If this whole RIDICULOUS plot of Real Lana blew up the Clone Lana is real -

THAT DOES MAKE LANA LANG A MURDERER!
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

She didn't know that it wasn't 'alive'.
She thought it was 'alive'.
She PREMEDITATED.
THEN SHE KILLED IT.
COLD BLOODED MURDERER.
Saying that she didn't kill it because it was 'already dead' is BULL-HOCKEY because she only learned of that AFTER she MURDERED it.

Just ANOTHER reason why the Lana we all saw MUST be the EVIL-CLONE! Either that or the producers of the show are SCREWING UP EVERYTHING! For Lana fans and non-Lana fans alike. They are making Lana fans COLD BLOODED MURDERER fans! The producers should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY if this is what they have done!

What the hell are you talking about? The clone was DEAD. When did anyone ever acknowledge the clone as being alive? Who acknowledged the clone was ever alive? NO, then she STOLE it.

Is it too much for your brain to understand a plot device? They were explaining her escape to the audience. That's why Lex knew all the details and Lana didn't deny any of them. Lana didn't MURDER anyone.

Ever hear of stillborn babies? Some are fully grown, but they're dead. Does that mean that the doctor killed it? The parents?

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
What the hell are you talking about? The clone was DEAD. When did anyone ever acknowledge the clone as being alive? Who acknowledged the clone was ever alive? NO, then she STOLE it.

Is it too much for your brain to understand a plot device? They were explaining her escape to the audience. That's why Lex knew all the details and Lana didn't deny any of them. Lana didn't MURDER anyone.

Ever hear of stillborn babies? Some are fully grown, but they're dead. Does that mean that the doctor killed it? The parents?

theres no point trying to argue with litew8 he believes to the point of stubbornness that the clones alive or yet returning in fierce so the only 1 whos going to be disappointed will be litew8 when his theory falls apart

[clarkbunny]

^
Stillborn babies were alive in the womb and at some point they died before being born. Depending on how late in the pregnancy they died they can come out looking like a normal baby or come out slightly decomposed/mummified.

In order for the clone to be dead it would have to have been ALIVE at some stage. What is so hard to grasp here?
If it was dead then it should have started to decompose and it hadn't.

Lex said the clone was never alive but that in itself does not make any sense. As I said before dead things do not grow. Until they show me how they managed to grow something that was dead I stand by my theory that the clone was brain dead and Lana killed it.

Needless to say Lana did not know whether the clone was dead or alive but she still put it in the car regardless with the intention to KILL it.

If someone can explain to me how something that has grown to the size of the Lana clone could never have been alive to begin with then I will gladly accept it. I imagine they must have grown the clone from a couple of cells so surely at some point WAAAAY b4 it got to the size it was they would have realised it was dead and destroyed it - WHY let it reach the same age as Lana first??? The writers must have lost their minds or they think the fans have no common sense!

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lana did NOT murder the clone. Lex stated that it was dead. The end.

[clarkbunny]

^
Well you are very accepting of implausible plots then.

Next week Lana will fly to Krypton and meet Jor-El then come back and tell Clark he has to rule the earth with an iron fist. You will believe all of this because Lana said it, ignoring all the known facts that Krypton is destroyed and Jor-El is dead.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
^
Well you are very accepting of implausible plots then.

Next week Lana will fly to Krypton and meet Jor-El then come back and tell Clark he has to rule the earth with an iron fist. You will believe all of this because Lana said it, ignoring all the known facts that Krypton is destroyed and Jor-El is dead.

I don't believe everything I hear. I know that won't happen, BUT this is Smallville and they're known of rushing cliffhangers and conclusions. They said that this year they are moving all Iconic characters into their places. Lana is NOT a murderer. They won't have her kill anyone.

[clarkbunny]

That's exactly what I mean - I don't believe the clone was dead because what Lex said doesn't make sense. Perhaps if they explained how it is that it died or how they managed to grow it if it was dead i'd believe it. But until then that plot doesn't wash with me.

As for Lana she does have a long list of people that she has killed. Yes it was self defence, accident, witch possesion etc. but you can't get away from the fact that she did actually kill them. If you shot somebody that was running at you with a knife you would still have killed them and you would have that on your conscience. The fact that they would have killed you would just be a way of justifying it to yourself.

There have been a few times when Lana has attempted to kill someone but fallen short - everytime the writers conveniently give her some sort of reason to do it. But it's the fact that she is so quick in accepting the decison to kill that is slightly disturbing whereas Clark does not find it so easy to kill.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

clarkbunny being a female you will know that it takes several weeks before the fetus of a baby has grown to the point were the heart start beating which means the baby is not alive before the point of were the heart starts

so in this case the clones heart never started therefore it was never alive

p.s thats the best i can do to explain it

[clarkbunny]

^
Ha ha ha, you are going to open up a whole other can of worms if you start on when a foetus is classed as alive or not. Personally I would say a foetus is alive the moment the cells start to divide. After all there are single celled organisms why would a foetus only be classed as alive when it's heart begins to beat?

There is no way that the clone would have reached the size it had without a beating heart - the heart would need to beat in order to carry blood around the body and thus enable it to grow. There is no way around it the clone had to have been alive up to very recently for it to look the way it did when Lana found it.

Basically there is a massive plot hole around the whole clone thing, around it never being alive which is not possible and was not explained how this could be possible and around how Lana even knew it existed and how she managed to steal it. We'll just have to keep watching and pray that they shed some light on it or just try and blot the shoddy writing from our memories.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

thanks trying to help you out and im made to look stupid

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
queues omen music

:lol: :D dun dun dunnn...

You know what I said makes PERFECT SENSE.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
:D dun dun dunnn...

You know what I said makes PERFECT SENSE.

what you still believe the clones alive or the lana in fierce is the clone? or better yet the lana in the credits is the clone?

[litew8]

You know what I said makes PERFECT SNESE.

[clarkbunny]

Well the intention was not to make anyone look stupid.

Except for the writers :lol:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
You know what I said makes PERFECT SNESE.

please enlighten me about what makes perfect sense to you?

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
What the hell are you talking about? The clone was DEAD. When did anyone ever acknowledge the clone as being alive? Who acknowledged the clone was ever alive? NO, then she STOLE it.

Is it too much for your brain to understand a plot device? They were explaining her escape to the audience. That's why Lex knew all the details and Lana didn't deny any of them. Lana didn't MURDER anyone.

Ever hear of stillborn babies? Some are fully grown, but they're dead. Does that mean that the doctor killed it? The parents? Re-read what I said.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

litew8 it doesnt mater if almiles told you themselves that the clones dead and the real lana is in smallville alive, you will continue to believe the opposite

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
please enlighten me about what makes perfect sense to you? EVERYTHING I said. Go and re-read it. Then tell me how I'm wrong to say she MURDERED the clone (ugh) or that she PREMEDITATED the KILLING. Lex was the one to tell her that the clone was not alive - therefore, she's a MURDERER. If that is IN FACT the Real Lana.

[clarkbunny]

I don't think that there are any more clones or that the Lana in Shanghai is a clone.

I believe that Lana will assume another identity when she returns to Smallville as otherwise there will be too much media heat on her re:

- how is she still alive
- who is the person with the same dna/fingerprints etc. as her in the morgue
- who helped her escape
- did she fake her death
- did she frame her husband

If they just make her return as same old Lana i'll know the script writing really has gone down the pan.

It would be like Princess Diana flying back to England after all these years and expecting to pick up where she left off as if nothing had happened!

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
Re-read what I said.

It doesn't matter how many times I re-read your posts, it doesn't make sense. You're fixated on being so right that you ignore the facts.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

so your saying that priests murder bodies within coffins at cremations simply because its a body and being torched

thats exactly the same as this lana used the dead clone and blew it up in the car theres no murder if your destroying whats already dead

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
EVERYTHING I said. Go and re-read it. Then tell me how I'm wrong to say she MURDERED the clone (ugh) or that she PREMEDITATED the KILLING. Lex was the one to tell her that the clone was not alive - therefore, she's a MURDERER. If that is IN FACT the Real Lana.

What the hell does that mean? The whole confrontation was to explain how Lana escaped and is still alive. Just because Lana didn't say that the clone was dead doesn't mean it was alive and she killed it. Stop twisting dialogue to fit your conspiracies.

[litew8]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
I don't think that there are any more clones or that the Lana in Shanghai is a clone.

I believe that Lana will assume another identity when she returns to Smallville as otherwise there will be too much media heat on her re:

- how is she still alive
- who is the person with the same dna/fingerprints etc. as her in the morgue
- who helped her escape
- did she fake her death
- did she frame her husband

If they just make her return as same old Lana i'll know the script writing really has gone down the pan.

It would be like Princess Diana flying back to England after all these years and expecting to pick up where she left off as if nothing had happened! Then that essentially means Lana Lang ceases to exist. That's an impossibility.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
It doesn't matter how many times I re-read your posts, it doesn't make sense. You're fixated on being so right that you ignore the facts.

SecretzNLyz15 your about the only 1 of a few remaining people that actually understand whats happened recently

all you can do is let the clone believers find out the horrible truth and let them weep in disbelief, as thats what im doing am fed up trying to convince them of the facts provided

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
Then that essentially means Lana Lang ceases to exist. That's an impossibility.

How is that an impossibility? Lana Luthor is DEAD to the world except for Clark and Lex. Lana Lang will return to Smallville once her name has been cleared.

[clarkbunny]

^
Well how are they going to cover the media aspect of it though.

It's not like Chloe - where only the hospital knew of her death.

Lana's death was reported on the news. Everyone in Smallville/Metropolis knew about the Clexana relationship then heard she died in a car explosion. What are people going to say when she shoes up serving drinks again at the Talon 'Oh nice to see you again, so glad you're not dead' :rotfl:

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
SecretzNLyz15 your about the only 1 of a few remaining people that actually understand whats happened recently

all you can do is let the clone believers find out the horrible truth and let them weep in disbelief, as thats what im doing am fed up trying to convince them of the facts provided She's only 1 of a few remaining that actually believe that the Real Lana blew up a clone >> so she could leave the country >> so she could be found by Lex >> so she could return to Smallville >> so she could change her identity >> so she could DO WHAT EXACTLY? Die a miserable pittiful life?

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

litew8 lex luthor offered lana her freedom for when she returns to smallville in a way of saying sorry since she didnt believe he was telling the truth about his love for her

once she returns to smallville lex will clear lanas name so she can live her life without hiding

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
How is that an impossibility? Lana Luthor is DEAD to the world except for Clark and Lex. Lana Lang will return to Smallville once her name has been cleared. That sounds like hog-wash if I've ever heard it.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
^
Well how are they going to cover the media aspect of it though.

It's not like Chloe - where only the hospital knew of her death.

Lana's death was reported on the news. Everyone in Smallville/Metropolis knew about the Clexana relationship then heard she died in a car explosion. What are people going to say when she shoes up serving drinks again at the Talon 'Oh nice to see you again, so glad you're not dead' :rotfl:

The writers had Lex say that he would give her ANYTHING for a reason. Lex is going to clear up her fake death and clear her name. He's got enough money and influence to do it and this 'conversion' would make it possible.


Originally posted by litew8
That sounds like hog-wash if I've ever heard it.

Good for you, but I'm going by fact.

[litew8]

.
.
.
<< Look into my eyes, you are getting sleepy, very sleepy.

[SecretzNLyz15]

I'm looking into KK's eyes and I think she has gorgeous eyes, not you.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
That sounds like hog-wash if I've ever heard it.

litew8 do you believe in the easterbunny?

the tooth fairy

or better yet father christmas?

as if you do none of them are true

:rotfl:

[clarkbunny]

I don't see how Lana's name can be cleared. It will be very suspicious that she disappeared at the same time as someone matching her description was killed in a car explosion.

The general public of Smallville/Metropolis/USA don't know that the person in the car was a clone. As far as they are concerned SOMEBODY HAS DIED and they are going to want to know WHO THAT IS if it isn't Lana Lang. And what Lana's involvement in that was.

The writers can just bring Lana back and miss this out but it will leave a plot hole big enough for the entire population of China to jump through whilst holding hands in a line :lol:

[litew8]

Dear producers,

You're FIRED! Get OUT, NOW!


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
litew8 do you believe in the easterbunny?

the tooth fairy

or better yet father christmas?

as if you do none of them are true

:rotfl: I'll tell you what I don't believe - you.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
I don't see how Lana's name can be cleared. It will be very suspicious that she disappeared at the same time as someone matching her description was killed in a car explosion.

The general public of Smallville/Metropolis/USA don't know that the person in the car was a clone. As far as they are concerned SOMEBODY HAS DIED and they are going to want to know WHO THAT IS if it isn't Lana Lang. And what Lana's involvement in that was.

The writers can just bring Lana back and miss this out but it will leave a plot hole big enough for the entire population of China to jump through whilst holding hands in a line :lol:

Lex is a Luthor. Lana was at Smallville hospital. Lex can have reports made stating that the body was misidentified and was a car jacker or something. C'mon if Luthor can downplay what happened at the dam, a fake death should be nothing.

[litew8]

Yes, but it'll be TOO LATE. The all important AUDIENCE already KNOWS the truth. MURDERER!!
It's much easier to accept the fact that the Lana we all saw is an evil-clone!
Maybe there's a chance that the Real Deal Lana is still out there.

[SecretzNLyz15]

The audience knows that the clone was dead, and Lana used it's body to fake her death.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
Dear producers,

You're FIRED! Get OUT, NOW!

I'll tell you what I don't believe - you.

whats not to believe about what i said what i have said is based on facts the real lana is alive and kicking the clone is dead

and no matter how many times you try to convince yourself of the opposite its not going to change the realistic facts thats the real lana is alive

the world is still going to live on you can leave your house without fear of being the only person alive nothing is going to change because you believe it has

[litew8]

Phhulease, all of that coming from a guy that just a few days ago said there is no such thing as a Lana clone! Yea, we all know how that went. Now you're tring to deny the probability that the Lana we all saw in 7x2 could very well be the evil-super-clone. I hear you.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Why would an evil super-clone cry at the thought of killing Lex? Why would it get emotional when he walked into the room?

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
The audience knows that the clone was dead, and Lana used it's body to fake her death. WHY DID SHE FAKE HER DEATH? IT'S TURNING OUT THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO (premeditate murdering that clone).

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
Phhulease, all of that coming from a guy that just a few days ago said there is no such thing as a Lana clone! Yea, we all know how that went. Now you're tring to deny the probability that the Lana we all saw in 7x2 could very well be the evil-super-clone. I hear you.

i think you'll find that i never denied that almiles would bring a clone into the show, what i did object to was your theory that the clone killed the real lana and took her place within china, smallville and the credits thats what i said was false

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Why would an evil super-clone cry at the thought of killing Lex? Why would it get emotional when he walked into the room? In my theory - Evan's Rapid Aging Secret - Remember Evan? He had VERY STRONG emotions.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Why would an evil super-clone cry at the thought of killing Lex? Why would it get emotional when he walked into the room?

exactly litew8 why?

litew8 you just dont want to admit you were wrong your grasping onto any hope of the clone still existing because it stops you from admitting the clones gone and your theory was for nothing

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
i think you'll find that i never denied that almiles would bring a clone into the show, what i did object to was your theory that the clone killed the real lana and took her place within china, smallville and the credits thats what i said was false I appologize in advance if I'm mistake, I'll have to search the threads.


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
exactly litew8 why?

litew8 you just dont want to admit you were wrong your grasping onto any hope of the clone still existing because it stops you from admitting the clones gone and your theory was for nothing I already answered this question. Because of Evan's Rapid Aging Secrets. EvaN had VERY STRONG emotions.

I am NOT GRASPING AT ANY hope. My theory still holds PLENTY of water. If it didn't, TRUST ME, I'd abandon it immediately.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
In my theory - Evan's Rapid Aging Secret - Remember Evan? He had VERY STRONG emotions.

did you even watch ageless evan wasnt a clone he was a normal human being born from 2 highschool teenagers drunken fling

nothing artificial about evan

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
WHY DID SHE FAKE HER DEATH? IT'S TURNING OUT THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO (premeditate murdering that clone).

There's NO proof that she murdered ANYONE. Where's the concrete proof? You insinuate that she did, but you can't prove it.


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
did you even watch ageless evan wasnt a clone he was a normal human being born from 2 highschool teenagers drunken fling

nothing artificial about evan

Not to mention he was really a child in a grown man's body.

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
did you even watch ageless evan wasnt a clone he was a normal human being born from 2 highschool teenagers drunken fling

nothing artificial about evan NOBODY SAID HE WAS A CLONE. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. It's Evan's Rapid Aging Secret coupled with his STRONG EMOTIONS >> Which compensate for Emily Dinsmore's failures. Go read my theory before guessing what I'm referring to.


Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
There's NO proof that she murdered ANYONE. Where's the concrete proof? You insinuate that she did, but you can't prove it.
Okay, lets say she didn't murder it - THEN WHY DID SHE DO IT AT ALL? It seems she didn't have to afterall! What was the reasoning if she's going to return?! It makes NO SENSE what-so-ever!

I might give up on this show regardless of whether or not she's a clone or the real Lana!

[Vatusia]

It wasn't the clone Lana murdered - well maybe she killed the clone, too - it was Genevieve Teague, as Lanabel, and that storyline has never been completely resolved.

Congrats, litew8! you got your 'Clona' storyline! :D

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8

Okay, lets say she didn't murder it - THEN WHY DID SHE DO IT AT ALL? It seems she didn't have to after all! What was the reasoning if she's going to return?!

Who said that she planned to return in the first place? She planned to kill Lex and live out her life in Shanghai for all we know. Lex told her that she could come back to Smallville and he'd leave her alone.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
Okay, lets say she didn't murder it - THEN WHY DID SHE DO IT AT ALL? It seems she didn't have to after all! What was the reasoning if she's going to return?!

she wasnt going to return lex told her if she wanted to live her life without hiding all she had to do was return to smallville and he would clear the mess up, try watching the ep kara before you question there motives

[clarkbunny]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Lex is a Luthor. Lana was at Smallville hospital. Lex can have reports made stating that the body was misidentified and was a car jacker or something. C'mon if Luthor can downplay what happened at the dam, a fake death should be nothing.

Well it would certainly be in his interests to try and do that - as he wouldn't want anyone finding out about the clone and his 33.1 project. So him offering Lana safe return to Smallville would just have been a ploy to save his own ass - which would certainly fit in with his character.

But the way they played up the media interest in Lex's relationship with Lana it makes it hard to believe that Lex will be able to just sweep the whole Lana death thing under the carpet.

There are a bit too many loose ends
- an unidentified body, hospitals check thoroughly to id a body before announcing it as somebody as this can cause unneccesary distress to relatives & friends. Would be odd for them to say oh actually we thought it was Lana but actually it isn't her at all.
- the person blown up was driving one of Lex's cars. how did they gain access to it if they are not connected to Lex in some way.
- why did Lana disappear at the same time
- the guy paid to say he killed Lana

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Vatusia
It wasn't the clone Lana murdered - well maybe she killed the clone, too - it was Genevieve Teague, as Lanabel, and that storyline has never been completely resolved.

Congrats, litew8! you got your 'Clona' storyline! :D

Don't encourage him, please. It was ALL Isobel, not Lanabel.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Don't encourage him, please

the funny thing is about this message is that i said just about the same thing many pages back

:rotfl:

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Who said that she planned to return in the first place? She planned to kill Lex and live out her life in Shanghai for all we know. Lex told her that she could come back to Smallville and he'd leave her alone. So let me get this straight,

Lex lied to Lana.
Lex used Lana as a clone incubator
Lana blew up her car with the clone so she could...
Leave the country to flee Lex....
Only to say she was expecting him....
So that she could accept his proposal to return to Smallville....
And she accepts as if NOTHING has happened....

NO WAY

- - - -
"Who said that she planned to return in the first place?"
More hog-wash. She is returning. That's a given.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Well it would certainly be in his interests to try and do that - as he wouldn't want anyone finding out about the clone and his 33.1 project. So him offering Lana safe return to Smallville would just have been a ploy to save his own ass - which would certainly fit in with his character.

But the way they played up the media interest in Lex's relationship with Lana it makes it hard to believe that Lex will be able to just sweep the whole Lana death thing under the carpet.

There are a bit too many loose ends
- an unidentified body, hospitals check thoroughly to id a body before announcing it as somebody as this can cause unneccesary distress to relatives & friends. Would be odd for them to say oh actually we thought it was Lana but actually it isn't her at all.
- the person blown up was driving one of Lex's cars. how did they gain access to it if they are not connected to Lex in some way.
- why did Lana disappear at the same time
- the guy paid to say he killed Lana

You're looking too far into this about the fake death..lol. In the past, so many people have died and have been forgotten in the next ep. Smallville isn't going to care about how a misidentified corpse will cause emotional distress to others.

Blown up? You mean Lana's jeep? I'm confused.

Easy, she was on vacation in Shanghai or just in Asia. Or she was kidnapped and was released or found.

We don't know who paid that guy to say he killed Lana.


Originally posted by litew8
[size=3]So let me get this straight,

Lex lied to Lana.
Lex either used Lana as a clone incubator
Lana blew up her car with the clone so she could...
Leave the country to flee Lex....
Only to say she was expecting him....
So that she could accept his proposal to return to Smallville....
And she accepts as if NOTHING has happened....

NO WAY

YES WAY. Lana left the U.S and the blonde wig and red dress was used to help Lex find her, not hide her. She lured him to Shanghai so she could kill him. She couldn't go through with it though, she's NOT a murderer.

Lex isn't being evil and, dare I say it, he's been civil to Lana. He's a master of mind games.

She doesn't accept it like nothing happened. Go read the future spoilers.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

im actually watching the ep just now and lana says "AFTER she heard lex was freed she laid out the breed crumbs and waited for the wolves to come knocking"

so litew8 she didnt go to all that trouble just to wait for lex she waited for him after his release from prison and if dont want to believe this post rewatch "kara" and listen to the scene closely

[adromidon]

also as she said she faked her death so that she can not be convicted of murder since she would be dead in the eyes of the law

[litew8]

Originally posted by Vatusia
It wasn't the clone Lana murdered - well maybe she killed the clone, too - it was Genevieve Teague, as Lanabel, and that storyline has never been completely resolved.

Congrats, litew8! you got your 'Clona' storyline! :D Thanks Vatusia for the kind words!
Though as I've said many time before, I'm reserving the right to be wrong.
If I knew for certain that I'm wrong, I wouldn't even bother.

[adromidon]

well everyone is entitled to their views I do have to admit that it was convienent that Lana knew of the Clone in the first place

[litew8]

Originally posted by adromidon
also as she said she faked her death so that she can not be convicted of murder since she would be dead in the eyes of the law Convicted of what? Murdering Lex? Lex told her that she'd be dead already if he wanted her to be. He went there with some sort of twisted death wish. It wouldn't have matterered.

[Xanderman]

Lana's a stone-cold clone-killer now. Move over Martha Kent, Smallville's found their new senator. :lol:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

my opinion is that the clone plot was a load of SH!T

chloe was able to escape the grasp of a luthor without a damn clone

and TPTB had to bring this SH!T up its only caused more chaos in reality than in the show itself

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
im actually watching the ep just now and lana says "AFTER she heard lex was freed she laid out the breed crumbs and waited for the wolves to come knocking"

so litew8 she didnt go to all that trouble just to wait for lex she waited for him after his release from prison and if dont want to believe this post rewatch "kara" and listen to the scene closely I was paraphrasing the turn of events. Don't take what I said too literally. geez

[clarkbunny]

Slightly off topic but I am wondering who the hell called the cops on Lex in the season 6 finale?

I thought it was Lionel as he was the only one who knew where Lex was.

But now i'm not so sure as it now transpires that Lionel is the one that paid the cancer guy to say he blew up Lana's car and thus clear Lex. Maybe it was to protect Lex from Clark as he thought Clark was going to kill Lex?

It couldn't have been Clark as he didn't know where Lex was, he followed Lionel's car to the dam and found Lex there.

[adromidon]

Originally posted by litew8
Convicted of what? Murdering Lex? Lex told her that she'd be dead already if he wanted her to be. He went there with some sort of twisted death wish. It wouldn't have matterered. Yeah I just ment that maybe her plan originaly was to fake her death wait for Lex then kill lex and get away scott free because of it but as it has been said she did not do that it is just an idea i will say your theory Litew8 is not faling on deaf ears with me I can see many strengths in your views but I am not for it or against it just yet I need more information on what lana planed

[litew8]

Originally posted by adromidon
Yeah I just ment that maybe her plan originaly was to fake her death wait for Lex then kill lex and get away scott free because of it but as it has been said she did not do that it is just an idea i will say your theory Litew8 is not faling on deaf ears with me I can see many strengths in your views but I am not for it or against it just yet I need more information on what lana planed I understand. I'm just debating perspectives, not trying to gain support for my theory. Lex seemed to have gone there with full intent on bringing Lana (or clone) back to Smallville with him. Trying, even if it meant he might die. Which he knew she (real or clone) would not kill him.

- - - -
When Lex said that Lionel paid the guy off -
I thought Lex was making it up.
Or maybe Lex actually paid the guy off -
but after realizing what actually occurred (real or clone),
he decided to change his course of action.

[Xanderman]

The clone thing came out of left field, a typically "out there" Smallville solution to resolve a plotline as quickly and easily as possible. Now Lana is of course free to immediately return to Smallville, and annoy us for God only knows how many more seasons.... :lol:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Slightly off topic but I am wondering who the hell called the cops on Lex in the season 6 finale?

I thought it was Lionel as he was the only one who knew where Lex was.

But now i'm not so sure as it now transpires that Lionel is the one that paid the cancer guy to say he blew up Lana's car and thus clear Lex. Maybe it was to protect Lex from Clark as he thought Clark was going to kill Lex?

It couldn't have been Clark as he didn't know where Lex was, he followed Lionel's car to the dam and found Lex there.

lana could have rang the cops with an anonymous tip off, and sent the tape by mail carrier to the station the cops came from?

at 1st i thought lionel may have set lex up to build up his distrust in people and in lionels terms "make him stronger"

but now it seems lionel didnt want lex going down for something he had nothing to do with

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
YES WAY. Lana left the U.S and the blonde wig and red dress was used to help Lex find her, not hide her. She lured him to Shanghai so she could kill him. She couldn't go through with it though, she's NOT a murderer. So you are saying that Lana lured Lex to Shanghai with the INTENT to KILL him. Again, PREMEDITATED.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
So you are saying that Lana lured Lex to Shanghai with the INTENT to KILL him. Again, PREMEDITATED.

Yes, Lana premeditated to kill LEX, not the clone. It was already dead.

[clarkbunny]

No Lex didn't pay off the cancer guy to say he killed Lana. He was genuinely surprised when he got let off the murder charges and wanted to still stay in prison. It was definitely Lionel.

I really don't believe that there is an evil Lana clone. If there is one then they might as well make Smallville be overun by evil marmosets and it has to be saved by the Powerpuff girls 'cos Clark gets kidnapped by Mojo Jojo the monkey who is wearing a kryptonite turban :lol: I will happily believe all this as I will know the show has gone to the dogs and the script writers are on the golf course while rabid monkeys type out the script!

I think Lex went to Shanghai as he HAD to see for himself that Lana was still alive. I also think that seeing her was an epiphany for him. He thought that Lana's goodness would save him from becoming the evil person in the cave wall prophecy but he's only succeeded in turning Lana evil/dark. I believe he actually DID want Lana to shoot him to save him from himself but she spared him (more fool her).

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
I believe he actually DID want Lana to shoot him to save him from himself but she spared him (more fool her).

lana cant do anything right she gets involved with him in the 1st place, and doesnt shoot him when hes begging to be shot :rolleyes:

[litew8]

Hog-wash. EVERYTHING the show has been about cannot lead up to this washed out plot. It makes the show worthless. It makes everyone worthless. There has to be a CONCLUSION, a climax.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
There has to be a CONCLUSION, a climax.

if you want that so badly go watch a porno

:rolleyes:

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Yes, Lana premeditated to kill LEX, not the clone. It was already dead. So it's a-okay to PREMEDITATE KILLING Lex, but when it comes to the probability of her KILLING a clone, all bets are off the table. Nope.


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
if you want that so badly go watch a porno

:rolleyes: Boy, you really are disturbed.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

lana couldnt be convicted of either as the clone wasnt alive so she mearly disposed of a already dead body

and as far as the world knew lana was dead so a dead woman cant go to jail for murder

how many times geez

[clarkbunny]

I think it would actually have been quite cool if Lana had shot Lex. The look on his face would be surprise and relief at the same time.

Then Lana could flip out and call an ambulance for him. Ambulance would take him away and we wouldn't know if he was alive or dead. Then Lex would wake up and be surprised and unhappy that he was still alive.

Ha ha - maybe I should go and write for Days of our lives :lol:

[litew8]

Besides the point, it's still illegal to do something like that to dead people.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by litew8
Boy, you really are disturbed.

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[litew8]

Wow, I could say the same to you.
Look at all of the times you've accused me of not being able to accept this or that. Making all kinds of personal insinuations. Yea, doesn't feel to good now does it. Not like a porno huh.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

i never insulted you i never questioned your frame of mind i only commented on your theory which of course this thread is about commenting on the clone plot

so you were well out of order with that comment towards me

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
So it's a-okay to PREMEDITATE KILLING Lex, but when it comes to the probability of her KILLING a clone, all bets are off the table. Nope.

Boy, you really are disturbed.

There's a difference between planning to kill and actually killing. Lana DIDN'T kill Lex though, so she obviously didn't kill the clone.

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
i never insulted you i never questioned your frame of mind i only commented on your theory which of course this thread is about commenting on the clone plot

so you were well out of order with that comment towards me Gee, I'm sorry - but try to refrain from telling me to go watch porno the next time you disagree with one of my comments. Got it.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny

I really don't believe that there is an evil Lana clone. If there is one then they might as well make Smallville be overun by evil marmosets and it has to be saved by the Powerpuff girls 'cos Clark gets kidnapped by Mojo Jojo the monkey who is wearing a kryptonite turban :lol: I will happily believe all this as I will know the show has gone to the dogs and the script writers are on the golf course while rabid monkeys type out the script!



PLEASE, PLEASE don't say that! Al/Miles already admitted to coming on to this site. I don't EVER want to see a kryptonite turban or rabid monkeys on Smallville. :eek:

[adromidon]

they admited to coming on this site ?

Maybe they look at what people think is going to happen and then encorporate stuff into the episodes i say this because this forum has become erie in the way it almost allways has discussions that actually reflect upcomign episodes

[litew8]

^Absolutely. I was having flashbacks of the forum when they had Lex describe the supposed explosion plot. It was like they took it right off the forum.

[adromidon]

Yeah I mean I would not be surprised if they did take some of our ideas I have seen some really thought out ideas that would be to complex to be coincidence but yet they end up on the show

Do not get me wrong though I think it is cool that they would do that or that they even look at this site

[clarkbunny]

People you need to stop arguing - it's a television show!

Here is what is going to happen - just so you know:

Lana assumes another identity with a blond wig and returns to Smallville. Clark spots her in town somewhere and does a doubletake. Clark follows her and finds out it is Lana. Clana get back together with Lana in disguise. Clark tells Chloe about Lana, Chloe finds out that Lana faked her own death and killed the clone. Chloe tells Clark. secrets and lies yada yada. The strain of a secret relationship gets to much for Clana they split. Lana asks Lex to clear the path for her to resume her old identity which he does. Chlark hook up. Lois investigates the missing ship and finds Lionel is being held hostage by the government and Milton Fine - they are using his Kryptonian knowledge for some project.

Kara and Grant are squashed by a giant anvil shaped meteor rock that just falls out of the sky and crushes them both to death simultaneously.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
TPTB had to bring this SH!T up its only caused more chaos in reality than in the show itself

seems bad quoting a post i actually posted but it seems relivent this thread as gone from a topic debate to a full blown argument

and i for 1 am not going to continue aruging as arguing is vaild grounds to close down a thread, and am also not here to make enemies only to discuss a show i love

[litew8]

A poster (of another thread) that supposedly works with Tom W., Kriten K, Allison M, etc... (all of them) said that the producers come here after most every episode to see the reactions. Maybe they use it like a barometer. Sometimes she even says that so and so are standing right next to her while she's typing or reading the comments.


Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
seems bad quoting a post i actually posted but it seems relivent this thread as gone from a topic debate to a full blown argument

and i for 1 am not going to continue aruging as arguing is vaild grounds to close down a thread, and am also not here to make enemies only to discuss a show i love I don't think anyone is arguing. There's a big difference between arguing and having a heated discussion. A way to not make enemies, don't post comments of a personal nature towards another (e.g. Don't tell someone to go watch a porno if they want to see a climax or conclusion to a show. Some find that offensive, degrading, insulting.).

Climax: 1) A rhetorical series of ideas, images, etc. arranged progressively so that the most forceful is last. 2) The final, culminating element or event in a series; highest point, as of interest or excitement. a) The decisive turning point of the action, as in a drama.

Conclusion: 1) The end or last part a) The last division of a discourse, often containing a summary of what went before. b) The last step in a reasoning process; judgement, decision or opinion formed after investigation or thought. c) The last of a chain of events; outcome.

[Kriminal]

Originally posted by litew8
If this whole RIDICULOUS plot of Real Lana blew up the Clone Lana is real -

THAT DOES MAKE LANA LANG A MURDERER!
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

She didn't know that it wasn't 'alive'.
She thought it was 'alive'.
She PREMEDITATED.
THEN SHE KILLED IT.
COLD BLOODED MURDERER.
Saying that she didn't kill it because it was 'already dead' is BULL-HOCKEY because she only learned of that AFTER she MURDERED it.

Just ANOTHER reason why the Lana we all saw MUST be the EVIL-CLONE! Either that or the producers of the show are SCREWING UP EVERYTHING! For Lana fans and non-Lana fans alike. They are making Lana fans COLD BLOODED MURDERER fans! The producers should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY if this is what they have done!

Whooaaa!!!!!!:eek:

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

litew8 im going to try and stop myself from commenting on any of your posts as it seems that whenever we debate something we somehow get into a heated discussion as you put it

[clarkbunny]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
PLEASE, PLEASE don't say that! Al/Miles already admitted to coming on to this site. I don't EVER want to see a kryptonite turban or rabid monkeys on Smallville. :eek:

I think the ratings might hit 8million if there was a kryptonite turban though, and evil marmosets might push that to 9million :lol:

I'd love to see the previously on Smallville summary for that ha ha ha!

Al Miles if you're reading this PLEASE PLEASE make reference to Smallville being overrun with evil marmosets and a kryptonite turban in the show. Chloe could throw it in as one of her funny lines - I will think I have died and gone to heaven. I will never complain again about bad plots - well ok maybe just a little :p

[litew8]

Originally posted by SV'S_immortal_hero
litew8 im going to try and stop myself from commenting on any of your posts as it seems that whenever we debate something we somehow get into a heated discussion as you put it Fair enough. Good conversations aren't always mild mannered.


Originally posted by Kriminal
Whooaaa!!!!!!:eek: :eek:

[Serynarpc]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
The writers had Lex say that he would give her ANYTHING for a reason. Lex is going to clear up her fake death and clear her name. He's got enough money and influence to do it and this 'conversion' would make it possible.



Good for you, but I'm going by fact.

Er... what fact? Can I see links supporting these facts?

'Cause if Lana killed her clone, faked her death and left her best friend and boytoy behind just to get away from Smallville, I'm not so sure she'd run back as soon as Lex says its okay.

She flew to CHINA. Thats no cheapie. Obviously she likely took some of the cash she was entitled to as Lex's wife and socked it away for such a day.

[adromidon]

that would mean she had been planing this whole thing from the start of their marrage which would not surprise me

[Superboy2]

It would make Lana more interesting if she had been planning this since at least Hydro.

[operadiva]

Lana interesting ..hummm that would be the day....i am still waiting...since season one...

She is just like a beautiful vase of flowers with nothing of interest to say..or her importance really doesn't keep one interested...

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Serynarpc
Er... what fact? Can I see links supporting these facts?

'Cause if Lana killed her clone, faked her death and left her best friend and boytoy behind just to get away from Smallville, I'm not so sure she'd run back as soon as Lex says its okay.

She flew to CHINA. Thats no cheapie. Obviously she likely took some of the cash she was entitled to as Lex's wife and socked it away for such a day.

Facts from my prior posts. Lana DID not kill the clone, it was already dead. Yes, and the future spoilers explain how she got there.


Originally posted by Superboy2
It would make Lana more interesting if she had been planning this since at least Hydro.

No, I think that too early on. If anything it's either Promise or Progeny when she found out about the fake pregnancy. I think that was the last straw.

[litew8]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Facts from my prior posts. Lana DID not kill the clone, it was already dead. Yes, and the future spoilers explain how she got there. So says Lex Luthor. Are you seriously willing to believe what Lex Luthor says?

[adromidon]

ethier way the point is that the clone went by by and now Lana is coming back :(

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by litew8
So says Lex Luthor. Are you seriously willing to believe what Lex Luthor says?

You think Lana would deny killing IF she did to Lex Luthor? She has no reason to lie to Lex and Lex has no reason to lie to Lana about the clone. The clone was dead. Lana used it to fake her death. Lex caught on to Lana's plan and tracked her down in Shanghai. That's it.

[litew8]

Sorry, at this point in time - I'm not willing to believe that, nor should anyone esle to any extreem.
Granted I like to write about the probability that it's the super-clone Lana that is coming back - I'm still 50/50. 50% of me thinks I'm wrong, the other 50% is pulling for some kick butt action / suspense / entertainment.

[Raistlin]

Who knows why Lex made a Lana doll. Maybe his insecurities and fears of losing her was too much to bear without having a back up? Disgusting, but I'm sure it makes sense in Lex's dysfunctional mind.

Makes sense to me, especially since cloned Julian. How sad is it when the only way you can have people in your love who love you is to manufacture them.