Lana's growth

[CountryGirl84]

I think Lana is getting some real depth to her character (finally) She's got this dark edgy side she never had before where she could plan out this whole elaborate plot to kill Lex. I liked that she didn't pull the trigger, I think murder would have kind of destroyed her. I don't really like Clana, but I am enjoying this powerful kind of single Lana. I also feel like this character shift is moving her away from the kind of person who matches as a partner for Clark.

[Routh]

This whole "Lana is so smart she knows about clones and faking deaths and killing Lex and out-evilling the Luthors!" thing makes me nauseous.

[Kid Collins]

Lana's brilliant according to Lex.

That's CANON. :lol:

[mrs. luther]

i loved the scene between lex and lana i loved how lana was soo angry at lex but she couldn't kill him i am so looking forward to more lexana scenes

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by mrs. luther
i loved the scene between lex and lana i loved how lana was soo angry at lex but she couldn't kill him i am so looking forward to more lexana scenes

She couldn't kill Lex because Lana isn't inherently evil.

Not because she had any residual feelings for the psychopath.

It's pathetic that he actually cloned her! What an idiot!! :rolleyes:

[mrs. luther]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
She couldn't kill Lex because Lana isn't inherently evil.

Not because she had any residual feelings for the psychopath.

It's pathetic that he actually cloned her! What an idiot!! :rolleyes:

i was not implying that she had feeling for lex

[paolinki25]

Lex actually said "Lana's brilliant"? I feel sorry for MR saying those awful lines.

[myankskent]

Lana is actually in this episode? I wasn't expecting that at all. I figured that she'd be out of play until the next episode.

[Superhuman_Devotion]

Originally posted by myankskent
Lana is actually in this episode? I wasn't expecting that at all. I figured that she'd be out of play until the next episode.

Yeah I wasn't expecting it either, it all happened rather quickly.

[Honey45]

I thought she didn't kill him because there were no bullets in the gun? It looks like she pulled the trigger, Lex took the gun, opened it and saw there were no bullets.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed to me she just had the gun to scare him, not kill him.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lana isn't a killer. She can't do it. That proves that she'll never go 'dark Lana'.

[Vala]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Lex actually said "Lana's brilliant"? I feel sorry for MR saying those awful lines. :rolleyes:


Originally posted by mrs. luther
i loved the scene between lex and lana i loved how lana was soo angry at lex but she couldn't kill him i am so looking forward to more lexana scenes I love Lexana scenes only because i think MR and KK are brilliant together! :)

[darkone]

Yep I give Lex credit for stating this because it's simply the truth.She played Lex like a puppet.Rock on Lana. :)

[mrs. luther]

Originally posted by Vala
:rolleyes:

I love Lexana scenes only because i think MR and KK are brilliant together! :)

i think so to

[paolinki25]

Well, I truly hope Lex is faking this whole "You outsmart me, you rock, you are brilliant" bs. I'm sorry, but it's insulting that a character like Lana can outsmart a man like Lex Luthor.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

lexs brain is a hamster in a wheel, the poor hamster can run like mad but sooner or later it gets exhausted and needs a rest

:lol:

[TheOriginalKal-el]

Didn't he imply the same thing back in Season 1 with her plan for the Talon?

[CDLBLUE]

Part of Smallville has been for the soul of Lana Lang, the cloning was symbolic, the "good" Lana wants to be with Clark Kent, the "bad" Lana wants to be with Lex Luthor, in her mind ( to use that word with charity ), she thinks that she is a "good girl," who has been wronged by a monster, but deep down she knows that she is Lex Luthor's counterpart, the entire sixth season was proof of that, that's the reason why she couldn't shoot him. it would to kill apart of herself, for awhile yet she may deceive and delude both herself, Lex and Clark that she is again some virtuous, moral and honorable person ( with her past ,God only knows how ), but it will only be a matter of time before both she and Lex have reverted to their true selves, and follow the dark path to the destination that they were preordained for.

[kp1984]

I think Lana been on all of smallville eposide. Her Character did seem to change. The writers not planning on making her evil are they? Is Lana evil in the comics?

[cmm]

I wonder how long this change will last?

[lana kent 04]

Originally posted by mrs. luther
i loved the scene between lex and lana i loved how lana was soo angry at lex but she couldn't kill him i am so looking forward to more lexana scenes

luthor is spelled with an "or" at the end

[ginnyfan]

I think it says a lot about Lana's growth that she formed a plan to kill Lex Luthor and rid the world of his evil once and for all. I think if he'd shown up arrogant etc. she probably would have killed him. But when he showed up all misty eyed... she couldn't do it.

It was a great moment, minus Lex' silly dialog.

[Superbeard]

I don't care if Kristin Kreuk plays Lana with Emmy-worthy talent, I don't care if Lana becomes the most thoroughly explored and convincing character on the show, because at this point she has gone through so many character shifts that I am just flat out sick of her. Not to mention the bad taste left in our mouths when she was whinier and more annoyingly helpless. I am bored of Lana, no matter what they do with her now. These first two episodes of the season are evidence that Lana was getting Clark's way. We've seen the most Superman-like qualities exhibited from Clark in these two episodes than we usually do in a season. And why is that? The absence of Lana Lang. She's emotional baggage, pulling Clark back into the past, and when she's not doing that she's making Lex more insecure. Clark probably would've been flying two seasons ago if it weren't for her, what with more breathing room to fix his gaze on his Superman destiny future. But she just keeps dragging him back...

Rock on Chloe and rock on Lois. I love those two. I don't know what to think of Lex at this point. Kara's doing good thus far. And Clark/not-far-off Superman? Bravo.

But Lana? Please do everyone a favor and stay in Shanghai. Thanks so much.

[skylar]

It was good to see Lana stick up for herself. Lex knew Lana wouldn't shot him but I think Lex tried to come off as if he cared. And what the hell was the clone of her for anyway? If the clone wasn't alive.

[pizzaguy19]

Originally posted by HeddyH
I thought she didn't kill him because there were no bullets in the gun? It looks like she pulled the trigger, Lex took the gun, opened it and saw there were no bullets.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed to me she just had the gun to scare him, not kill him.

Looked to me like the gun didn't even have a ****ing trigger. I kept looking for it, couldn't see anything.


Originally posted by Routh
This whole "Lana is so smart she knows about clones and faking deaths and killing Lex and out-evilling the Luthors!" thing makes me nauseous.

well said. /gag

[jimmyolsenblues]

I would have had no problem with lana pulling the trigger.

[skully]

Originally posted by kp1984
I think Lana been on all of smallville eposide. Lana/KK did not appear in Justice. She was off shopping for a wedding dress with Nell.

[samanta]

I like her new character too but I think her plot to kill Lex was little bit overdone.
She's much better now than sweet clueless Lana.

[mrs. luther]

Originally posted by lana kent 04
luthor is spelled with an "or" at the end

lol i know i spelled it like that cuz it has to do with a joke between me and my friend

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Superbeard
I don't care if Kristin Kreuk plays Lana with Emmy-worthy talent, I don't care if Lana becomes the most thoroughly explored and convincing character on the show, because at this point she has gone through so many character shifts that I am just flat out sick of her. Not to mention the bad taste left in our mouths when she was whinier and more annoyingly helpless. I am bored of Lana, no matter what they do with her now. These first two episodes of the season are evidence that Lana was getting Clark's way. We've seen the most Superman-like qualities exhibited from Clark in these two episodes than we usually do in a season. And why is that? The absence of Lana Lang. She's emotional baggage, pulling Clark back into the past, and when she's not doing that she's making Lex more insecure. Clark probably would've been flying two seasons ago if it weren't for her, what with more breathing room to fix his gaze on his Superman destiny future. But she just keeps dragging him back...

Rock on Chloe and rock on Lois. I love those two. I don't know what to think of Lex at this point. Kara's doing good thus far. And Clark/not-far-off Superman? Bravo.

But Lana? Please do everyone a favor and stay in Shanghai. Thanks so much.

Well, your argument already has holes in it. Clark pined after Lana in seasons 4 and 6 when she wanted nothing to do with him. Clark holds himself back, not Lana.

[clarkbunny]

Maybe Lana's character is a reflection of Lex Luthor and his destiny - everything he touches withers and dies/is corrupted like the sunflowers he touched when he saw his future - they shriveled up turned grey and died.

He admired Lana and thought she was good and pure. He thought she was the one person who could save him from his dark self. However he has turned her into a dark person rather than himself into a good person and proven that he cannot be saved from his ultimate destiny.

This is why he wanted Lana to shoot him - he realised he is destined to become an evil person and he wanted salvation.

Oooh i'm good ;)

[CDLBLUE]

Yes you are, but now it is for Clark to realize that Lana has turned to the dark side, and that in her own way she is as evil as Lex, then at last he can see that she never can be, never was, the girl of his dreams, then he can finally become Superman.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by CDLBLUE
Yes you are, but now it is for Clark to realize that Lana has turned to the dark side, and that in her own way she is as evil as Lex, then at last he can see that she never can be, never was, the girl of his dreams, then he can finally become Superman.

Clark and Lana will share a life long bond. And I seriously doubt her "darkness" will ever be taken that far or be permanent.

[tmack09]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Maybe Lana's character is a reflection of Lex Luthor and his destiny - everything he touches withers and dies/is corrupted like the sunflowers he touched when he saw his future - they shriveled up turned grey and died.

He admired Lana and thought she was good and pure. He thought she was the one person who could save him from his dark self. However he has turned her into a dark person rather than himself into a good person and proven that he cannot be saved from his ultimate destiny.

This is why he wanted Lana to shoot him - he realised he is destined to become an evil person and he wanted salvation.

Oooh i'm good ;)

:) good job clarkbunny That didn't hit me until i read ur post and it makes so much sense!!

And WHY do people keep thinking that Lana holds Clark back?! Can we just blame Clark for Clark's behavior?! Lana is not sitting with a gun at HIS head saying "Do not go on with ur destiny!" its his own fault if most feel he is not moving forward!!

Anyway...I like sweet Lana and I LOVE dark Lana both make me very happy! And the fact that she didn't shoot and kill Lex is ok, but she should have at least put a hole in his arm, shot him in the pinky toe OR slap the mess out of him like he slapped her, the fact that she didn't do anything was kinda sucky IMO!! lol :p

[M4nfr3]

I don't think she had bullets in her gun...

[sithius]

This thread title makes me think Lana has some strange growth on her body, like a massive tumor.

[lana kent 04]

Originally posted by mrs. luther
lol i know i spelled it like that cuz it has to do with a joke between me and my friend

ha, ok then! just thought i'd let you know! :)


Originally posted by clarkbunny
Maybe Lana's character is a reflection of Lex Luthor and his destiny - everything he touches withers and dies/is corrupted like the sunflowers he touched when he saw his future - they shriveled up turned grey and died.

He admired Lana and thought she was good and pure. He thought she was the one person who could save him from his dark self. However he has turned her into a dark person rather than himself into a good person and proven that he cannot be saved from his ultimate destiny.

This is why he wanted Lana to shoot him - he realised he is destined to become an evil person and he wanted salvation.

Oooh i'm good ;)

ooh, that is a good one. i hadn't thought of it like that. lana was pretty dark last season, sometimes i liked it, sometimes i didn't. i think i'm going to enjoy her and clark this season.

[limi]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Maybe Lana's character is a reflection of Lex Luthor and his destiny - everything he touches withers and dies/is corrupted like the sunflowers he touched when he saw his future - they shriveled up turned grey and died.

He admired Lana and thought she was good and pure. He thought she was the one person who could save him from his dark self. However he has turned her into a dark person rather than himself into a good person and proven that he cannot be saved from his ultimate destiny.

This is why he wanted Lana to shoot him - he realised he is destined to become an evil person and he wanted salvation.

Oooh i'm good ;)
It does seem like Lex corrupted Lana somewhat, but I don't think she can be quite as evil as he is. Lex seems to be rotten from the core, while Lana can't bring herself to physically hurt a man who's brought so much pain to her and many other people (I mean, she could've blown out his knee or something! He was trespassing...)

[CDLBLUE]

The supposition of Lana's inherit virtue is predicated upon the person that she once was, not the person that she now is, Lex has corrupted her, perhaps not beyond salvation, but way, way beyond her having a real or lasting relationship with Clark, on any number of levels she has been tainted by Lex's evil, and on any number of levels Lana must know it, and must know how wrong she is for Clark, the one and only way to her eventual salvation is give up Clark for the good of the rest of the World, and in that way expropriate her sins, her mistakes, and her crimes.

[clarkbunny]

^
Very well said CDLBLUE. I think this is the growth in Lana's character, she has realised her dark side and whilst she has not become an evil person I think it will become apparent to Clark that she is not the girl of his dreams he thought she once was. And ultimately I think the Clana relationship will be put to rest although the two will remain close and life long friends.

We saw a bit of this when Clark found out that Lana was going to let Lex die in the tunnels. He said 'Maybe i've got it all wrong, maybe Lana wasn't forced into the marriage' he was thinking maybe she's not the good girl he thought she was.

On a side note, I think it would have been good if Lana had shot Lex. He had a look on his face when she didn't shoot him, it would have been interesting to see that look change to surprise and shock when Lana did shoot him. She shoud have shot him then realised what she had done and called an ambulance - that would have been very interesting & very deserved for Lex.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
Maybe Lana's character is a reflection of Lex Luthor and his destiny - everything he touches withers and dies/is corrupted like the sunflowers he touched when he saw his future - they shriveled up turned grey and died.

He admired Lana and thought she was good and pure. He thought she was the one person who could save him from his dark self. However he has turned her into a dark person rather than himself into a good person and proven that he cannot be saved from his ultimate destiny.

This is why he wanted Lana to shoot him - he realised he is destined to become an evil person and he wanted salvation.

Oooh i'm good ;)

That is good. It proves that the only one who he didn't corrupt was Clark, but he did betray his trust and slapped away the only hand who could have possibly saved him from his dark destiny.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lana doesn't need to give up Clark to redeem herself. I would say that right now, Lana's rage has her on the brink of going evil, but Clark is going to pull her back to the good side. Giving up Clark would be the worst thing for Lana's character right now.

[clarkbunny]

I don't think that Lana will give up Clark, I think Clark will give up Lana as he realises she is not the girl he has fantasised of being with all these years.

Lana's role appears to be to help progress the roles of the male leads in the program rather than herself. She has always been trying to find out who she is and define herself but has never quite managed it. Perhaps in losing Clark she will be forced to find herself.

[aXem]

I thought lex just put the safety on when he got the gun.

I think it had bullets in it.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by clarkbunny
I don't think that Lana will give up Clark, I think Clark will give up Lana as he realises she is not the girl he has fantasised of being with all these years.

Lana's role appears to be to help progress the roles of the male leads in the program rather than herself. She has always been trying to find out who she is and define herself but has never quite managed it. Perhaps in losing Clark she will be forced to find herself.

I don't think Clark will give Lana up. Yes she's done evil things, but in her mind she feels it's justified. Clark has given Lex plenty of chances to redeem himself and he's done worse things than Lana has, so I think that Clark not giving Lana another chance would be unfair. I also believe that as long as there is good left in Lana, Clark will be there for her.

Al/Miles did say that they planned on focusing on Lana's life a little more, like she has her own storyline and gets to find herself. I think it was around mid-season or something that she does something for herself, maybe goes back to school?

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Lana doesn't need to give up Clark to redeem herself. I would say that right now, Lana's rage has her on the brink of going evil, but Clark is going to pull her back to the good side. Giving up Clark would be the worst thing for Lana's character right now.

I'd say the best way to do it is for her to be pulled off the brink of evil and thank Clark and realize that she needs to get whatever counseling she needs. While she's getting the counseling, Clark starts realizing that Lois shares his values and starts warming up to her. When Lana gets back, Clark treats her as a great friend but holds back from getting romantically involved with her any more. That I think is the way to do it without ruining Lana and making Clark look like a loser who just wasn't able to get over Lana without her doing something evil that he would resent.


Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
I don't think Clark will give Lana up.

I think Clarkbunny meant giving her up as a gf or potential gf. That will have to happen because they are not destined to end up together. He will not give her up as a friend.

[CDLBLUE]

Clark may well pull Lana back from the dark side and thus save her soul as he has so many times saved her life, but he will do it because it is the right thing to do, not because he still loves her as he once did, Clark has already traveled further and accomplished more , than either Lana or Lex, and he has grown beyond them both, deep down he knows that Lex has passed over to the dark side, deep down he must realize that Lana is no longer the sweet, pretty girl next door that he once knew, and after all that has happened the only real recourse left for both of them is to come to an understanding, to closure and to departure

[Ares]

if she were so brilliant she would have picked out a better wig.. whats with that..

[SecretzNLyz15]

She wasn't trying to blend in. Period. She was trying to stand out so Lex would find her easier.

[Ares]

Everybody needs Midol

[CDLBLUE]

There are any number of questions that have yet to answered, first why did Lex clone Lana in the first place ? Because two whores are better than one ? Did he think that one day Lana would discover the truth and leave him ? Did he want a threesome ? Did he plan to start a race of Lanas, ( God forbid ) ? And now that Lana knows that Lex tricked her with a false pregnancy and that he cloned her, that he consistently lied to her and deceived her, she must realize what sick, depraved, monster she bound herself to. How will affect her psychology, and her self-esteem, for one who is always ranting about truth and secrets, the fact that she was set up on cosmic level must have changed her in some way, ( but then again, maybe not, her level of self-awareness is not high, when Lex called her brilliant, I nearly barfed .) And how will all this knowledge come into play in her future relations with Clark ?

[tmack09]

Originally posted by CDLBLUE
There are any number of questions that have yet to answered, first why did Lex clone Lana in the first place ? Because two whores are better than one ?........

ouch!! :( that was harsh!!

I really want to know why he Cloned the poor lady, I find it to make him a sick sick sad little bald man! :lol:

[CDLBLUE]

Harsh perhaps, but no less than what she deserves. Yes, Lex is a sick, sad, degenerate, little man, but what does it say about Lana that she had sex with with him, and accepted his proposal of marriage ?

[operadiva]

i couldn't agree more CDBLUE..So true...

[darkkrypton81]

I think I should have a bottle of tylenol ready when I watch Fierce. Just that feeling.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by CDLBLUE
Harsh perhaps, but no less than what she deserves. Yes, Lex is a sick, sad, degenerate, little man, but what does it say about Lana that she had sex with with him, and accepted his proposal of marriage ?

She had sex with him before she knew how dirty and dishonest he was. She accepted the marriage proposal because she was pregnant. That doesn't make her a whore.

[CDLBLUE]

When Lex called Lana "brilliant", it was the most unintentionally funny moment in the history of the series, if Lana was/is so "brilliant" why didn't she see what was going on around her ? Why didn't she ascertain Lex's true character from the word go ? Why was she so blind to Clark's virtues ,his sense of honor and of moral right ? It was Balzac who said "behind every great fortune, there is a crime", she had every opportunity to see the Luthor's up close, and she knew what kind of people they were , If Lana is so "brilliant", why didn't she know that Lex's grandfather killed her Aunt Louise, ( see "Relic"} The answer is that deep down Lana is no better that the Luthor's as she abundantly proved throughout season six, if Smallville is in part a battle for Lana's soul, then on one level the Luthor's have won.