TV Ratings for Kara

[MidgardDragon]

Post the TV Ratings for Kara once they are out. Let's hope for an increase from last week's great premiere numbers.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm predicting somewhere between 4.9 million viewers and last week's 5.18.

[superhippie2000]

it might be less then last week but hopefully if it is it isnt by much.

[MidgardDragon]

I think it'll definitely retain quite a few viewers from last week, maybe even staying above 5 million. Does anyone else think they're finally getting the hang of when and how often to promote? Even if the preview itself was only cool because I know it's going to be about Supergirl, at least they're playing the crap out of it. I haven't been able to turn on The CW without seeing a preview for this episode. Hopefully that will positively effect the ratings.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Really? The first few days after "Bizarro" aired I thought they were doing well w/advertising, but it seems like Tue. - today was all about the SPN season premiere.

But like I mentioned in last week's thread, I think the second half hour will see a big rise, seeing as how it's up against the low-rated 30 Rock, and because there may be some pre-tune in for SN (I believe they have different audiences, for the most part.

And I believe "Bizarro" was more 'well received' than "Zod," so I'm predicting

[MidgardDragon]

I've seen lots of Supernatural trailers too, but the few times they haven't been coupled with a Smallville promo there's been a Smallville trailer not much later.

[ClarkyBoy14]

"Kara" will retain the premiere's numbers better than "Sneeze."

Hopefully, it stays above 5 million viewers!


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I've seen lots of Supernatural trailers too, but the few times they haven't been coupled with a Smallville promo there's been a Smallville trailer not much later. True.

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I was sort of expecting some promotion about the arrival of MC from The O.C., especially during GG, but I guess not.

[Timester]

4.5 million min.

[Clark is the Man]

well at least ii know .000001 million voters watched the episode

[Minela]

They really deserve to get an above 5 mill rating, since the last two episodes were awsome. Clark has been a true Superman in both.

[Rosey]

My DirecTV receivers aren't hooked to a phone line so they can't keep track of what I'm watching.

Wonder how much (if any) it would help the ratings if I was connected?

[warriorrenegade]

I predict a 4.8mil final rating. As good as Bizarro was and the tease of Kara/Supergirl people would've wanted to see her in action. If it got 5mil, I'd be surprised. I think the last time thats happend was early S5.

[jack1487]

Originally posted by Rosey
My DirecTV receivers aren't hooked to a phone line so they can't keep track of what I'm watching.

Wonder how much (if any) it would help the ratings if I was connected?

DirecTV does not keep track of what anybody is watching and the same goes for Dish Network. So those numbers are not counted. I ask last year about this and DirecTV personnel stated that they do not track any of those who watch a show.

So we are just not counted, sorry...

Thanks,

Jack

[Backstabbers_84]

So when does the ratings come in?

[pizzaguy19]

Originally posted by Backstabbers_84
So when does the ratings come in?

yea, where do people get all these ratings from anyway?

[Best Episode - 321]

I case people were expecting the overnight ratings. I doesn't seem like we're getting them today.

This was posted instead:

Prime-Time Metered Market Delay for Thursday, Oct. 4

Note: Data was only available for 14 metered markets at press time, so I have excluded the overnight results for Thursday, Oct. 4. But don’t forget to go to PIFeedback at approximately 12 p.m. Eastern Time for the fast affiliate results.

Link (http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp)

[Best Episode - 321]

Apparently the fast nationals wiil be delayed also due to processing errors.

I have to leave so here is the link to find the ratings whenever they are posted.

Link to Ratings (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451)

Hopefully they won't be delayed long, but it could be quite awhile before we get some numbers.

[Rafael122]

Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
Apparently the fast nationals wiil be delayed also due to processing errors.

I have to leave so here is the link to find the ratings whenever they are posted.

Link to Ratings (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451)

Hopefully they won't be delayed long, but it could be quite awhile before we get some numbers.


CW’s Smallville (Viewers: #5, 4.56 million; A18-49: #5, 1.8/ 5). With the CW’s recently introduced Reaper and Gossip Girl in search of an audience, it looks like there could be life for the veteran Smallville past this season.

More stuff:


Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 4.23 million, A18-49: 1.7/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.89 million, A18-49: 2.0/ 5

[SparkleforSmallville]

Here they are:
"Also airing in the 8 p.m. hour was Fox’s Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (Viewers: #3, 8.53 million; A18-49: #4, 2.3/ 7), which is a vast improvement over fall 2006 occupants ‘Til Death and Happy Hour, and the CW’s Smallville (Viewers: #5, 4.56 million; A18-49: #5, 1.8/ 5). With the CW’s recently introduced Reaper and Gossip Girl in search of an audience, it looks like there could be life for the veteran Smallville past this season."
Very respectable 4.56 mil. Yeah! An 8th Season!:D What did Sneeze do last year?

[Rafael122]

Sneeze did a 4.52.

[MidgardDragon]

These are the overnights, right? I recall the ratings going up once the official ratings came out last week, let's hope for the same here.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
These are the overnights, right? I recall the ratings going up once the official ratings came out last week, let's hope for the same here.
Oh yeah, I bet they will go up! When will the official ratings be out? was it 3 days?

[gategod]

Ratings don't mean an episode is good, so why should ratings even matter any more. The best episode could get 2mil viewers and the worst could get 6mil, I'm not seeing the point

[MidgardDragon]

That doesn't mean we don't have the right to find out about the ratings. Heck, no one here has even said that an episode is good based on the ratings. You're jumping to conclusions for no reason. I have said time and time again that ratings don't matter, especially considering the flawed system. That doesn't mean there's something wrong about wanting to know them, especially since the network still puts stock in them.

[Rosey]

So the other CW shows rate like this (for the last week) according to the link above:

4.91 Friday Night Smackdown! (28Sept, prior week)
4.52 America's Next Top Model
2.99 The Game
2.97 Supernatural
2.88 Gossip Girl
2.81 Reaper
2.65 Beauty & The Geek
2.59 Girlfriends
2.58 Everybody Hates Chris
2.33 Alien's in America
0.698 Online Nation
0.780 CW Now

Looks like Smallville, though not getting the ratings we think it deserves, is doing quite well for the CW.

If they'd spent just a fraction of what went towards promoting all of their crap shows on Smallville they might have gotten a bit better return for their money.

[MidgardDragon]

So Smallville outperformed all the other shows last week? Or is this just for this week? Look like it tied or more than likely outperformed ANTM. When did Friday Night Smackdown get so popular? I thought ANTM and Smallville were the top shows?

[Routh]

So Smallville outperformed all the other shows last week?
Last week? Yes, surprisingly, since ANTM dipped from it's massive season premiere ratings (Smallville's premiere aired during the week of ANTM's second episode) This week? Well, FNS hasn't aired this week yet (tonight), so we'll see.

When did Friday Night Smackdown get so popular? I thought ANTM and Smallville were the top shows?
ANTM was the number 1 show all year last year, and Smallville traded the number 2 spot with Friday Night Smackdown almost every other week last year.

I'm actually quite surprised that ANTM is dipping into the 4 millions. It rarely ever falls below 5 million. I guess that bodes well for Smallville.

[MidgardDragon]

ANTM was the number 1 show all year last year

Someone continues to forget that ANTM wasn't on for much of Smallville's season last year.

[Rosey]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
So Smallville outperformed all the other shows last week? Or is this just for this week? Look like it tied or more than likely outperformed ANTM. When did Friday Night Smackdown get so popular? I thought ANTM and Smallville were the top shows? Since Smackdown! hadn't aired yet this week I grabbed last week's numbers for comaprison.

So Smallville with 5.08 beat Smackdown! with 4.91 (and NTM with 4.85) last week and we have yet to see about this week.

[Routh]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Someone continues to forget that ANTM wasn't on for much of Smallville's season last year.
Someone continues to forget that ANTM has two seasons per year. Last year, each season aired from September - December (hey, that's Smallville's first half!) and from February - May (hey, that's Smallville's second half!). So, saying that "ANTM wasn't on for much of Smallville's season" is completely false. They were on almost every week. Every episode of ANTM last year went WAY over 5 million last year, while Smallville maintained a mid-4 million range and even dipped very low into the 3 millions. Both of Top Model's finales scored over 6 million, making them the two most watched hours of television in The CW's history.

Please, do some research. :D

And, really, I'm not saying Smallville has horrible ratings. It just wasn't number 1 last year. I think SV does well enough, and I'm happy with where it's at. Sometimes, we just need to accept the fact that Smallville isn't the greatest (in ratings, plots, characters, etc.), and stop living in denial. :)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Originally posted by Rosey
Since Smackdown! hadn't aired yet this week I grabbed last week's numbers for comaprison.

So Smallville with 5.08 beat Smackdown! with 4.91 (and NTM with 4.85) last week and we have yet to see about this week.
I think Smallville's final rating for premiere epi. "Bizarro" was 5.18 mil.{not to split hairs or anything;)}

[FiReFTW]

Wow I actualy thought Kara will have more viewers than " Bizzaro " , because of Supergirl , that really suprized me..

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
These are the overnights, right? I recall the ratings going up once the official ratings came out last week, let's hope for the same here. Those are the fast nationals. The over nights (or metered market ratings) are what K-Site usually posts every week. The final nationals are what come out later in the day, usually around 7 EST. ;) But it's possible there will be a delay today and we won't get the final numbers until tomorrow morning.


Originally posted by warriorrenegade
I predict a 4.8mil final rating. As good as Bizarro was and the tease of Kara/Supergirl people would've wanted to see her in action. If it got 5mil, I'd be surprised. I think the last time thats happend was early S5. Where have you been? :lol: SV got above 5 million viewers last week, and it had three eps. last year that had 5 or above: "Fallout," "Justice," and "Labyrinth."

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I believe there were six weeks were SV aired an original and ANTM did not. Remember, BatG took over the Wednesday at 8 slot until the last Wednesday of February, when ANTM returned. In that time, 6.10 - 6.15 premiered. And though it's no big deal, ANTM went below the 5 million mark 3 times during Cycle 8.

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Here's last week's CW standings (ranked by viewer) according to the final nationals:

[Rosey]

Originally posted by SparkleforSmallville
I think Smallville's final rating for premiere epi. "Bizarro" was 5.18 mil.{not to split hairs or anything;)} Oh yes you were! :lol:

I just grabbed the numbers that were handy from the available website linked above. The real point was that Smallville is doing well in relation to the other CW shows. :)

Strange thing about ratings. I've never even heard of anyone knowing anyone who participates. And if they're not counting satellite viewers they have to be off even more than I think they are. :\

[ClarkyBoy14]

1. Smallville (Season Premiere): 5.18 million viewers
2. America's Next Top Model 4.9
3. Friday Night Smackdown! 4.22
4. Reaper (Series Premiere): 3.28
5. Beauty and the Geek: 2.98
6. Reaper (R): 2.53
7. Gossip Girl: 2.48
8. Everybody Hates Chris (R): 1.83
9. Everybody Hates Chris (R): 1.78
10. The Game (R): 1.74
11. Girlfriends (R): 1.52
12. America's Next Top Model (R): 1.1
13. CW Now: 0.79
14. Gossip Girl (R): 0.78
15. Online Nation: 0.69

[Ilovebeinglost]

So do we have the rating for Kara yet? Did I miss it amongst all these guessing games?

[SparkleforSmallville]

Originally posted by Rosey
Oh yes you were! :lol:

I just grabbed the numbers that were handy from the available website linked above. The real point was that Smallville is doing well in relation to the other CW shows. :)

Strange thing about ratings. I've never even heard of anyone knowing anyone who participates. And if they're not counting satellite viewers they have to be off even more than I think they are. :\

Point taken:) I'm so happy that Smallville is doing well in the ratings, it's my favorite show!!:p
Everyone, where I live has either DISH or Direct TV. How can the ratings be fair or accurate if they are not counted? Do they just count TVs with antennas!:confused:


Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
So do we have the rating for Kara yet? Did I miss it amongst all these guessing games?
Yes, it was 4.56mil. for the overnights. The finals could be higher:) More info on previous page of this thread.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Thanks to Travis Yanaan at PIFeedback!

"Kara" Final Nationals!

Smallville
- 4.586 million viewers
- 2.9/5 HH
- 1.9/5 A18-49
- 2.1/7 A18-34

The positives:
- "Kara" retained 100% of "Bizarro's" audience of adults ages 18-49 (1.9/5) and 18-34 [the CW's "target audience"] (2.1/7).
- SV is still up from its year ago performances.

"Kara": 4.59 million viewers
"Sneeze": 4.52

That's a 70K difference.
- SV will once again finish on top this week, unless Life Is Wild is a surprise hit (okay, stop laughing) or Smackdown does better.

Here's the averages for the first two eps. of Ss. 6 & 7:

S6: 4.74 million viewers
S7: 4.89

150K diff.

[jack1487]

I would like to put up a poll for how we all watch SV and SN. Something like:
Over the Air (antennas)
Cable
DirecTV
Dish Network
Internet

I think that should cover it all. When we get the finial results we need to send them to both the CW and AL/Miles.

Just not sure how to do this????


Thanks,

Jack

PS: I also think that the CW could do with more advertising, all we get where I live (north CA) is for Dr, Phil and Gossip Girl and the only SV we get is on the CW station, which is a bummer!

[Rosey]

When you make your poll be sure that multiple options can be selected.

I get CW both over-the-air and on DirecTV.

As for your internet option, refer to rule 9 (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=30) of the board.

[Atomic girl]

I watch TV over the airwaves.....I thought all people got tapped for Nielsen ratings, you just have to have a box........

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
Where have you been? :lol: SV got above 5 million viewers last week, and it had three eps. last year that had 5 or above: "Fallout," "Justice," and "Labyrinth."

You're right. :o

[ClarkyBoy14]

Not everyone has a Nielsen box, but those who do represent over a thousand people each. So you're being represented, just not counted.

Yah, it's not completely accurate, but the only way Nielsen could get total accuracy is if everyone was tracked, and that would be expensive and I doubt everyone would agree to having their television viewing habits monitored.

[Timester]

I guess I was right I going to a 4.5 million min...

[ClarkyBoy14]

Unfortunately. I was surprised it dropped so low.

[STFanatic]

Lets see how Lana's return does next week in the ratings.

[kiariclois]

The ratings drop? That's a surprise... Since I think Kara really was awesome... It's Kara!! :lol:

Think it maybe due to the clashes of the show aired at the same time and people may have prefer to watch other show... :p

[MidgardDragon]

Well this isn't a season premiere or finale, I'm not surprised they dropped, even though I was hoping they wouldn't. Lots of people only seem to make it a point to watch on premieres and finales, then just watch the middle episodes when they can. But it's still up from last year's episode 2 ratings, so that's a good sign.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Lets see how Lana's return does next week in the ratings. I have a feeling, not so well. :\

Wonder if it would help at all to advertise the guest star.

[MidgardDragon]

They definitely need two separate trailers for next week. One for the Clana, one for the FOTW vs. Kara battle.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
They definitely need two separate trailers for next week. One for the Clana, one for the FOTW vs. Kara battle. IA.I hope they do that. I thought it was weird they didn't have any clips at all from the Kara plot, especially since they never mentioned Lana in the official description or released any promo pix of her. It's Kind of like when they revealed the big surprise of "Freak" in its trailer, when we knew nothing about it prior.

[Minela]

They deffenitley need to advertise the guest star. How would the casual viewer even know she will be in the show next week? The CW needs to get their heads out of their asses and start promoting this show. I am so glad their baby "Gossip Girl" is a flop. "Wild Life" looks stupid, so I'm not worried that it will go on for more than one season.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Oh, yah, GG. Did anyone else lol when they saw it's newest promo during SV the other night? It was claiming that GG was the hottest show of the season, calling it a hit, and all this BS. I couldn't help but laugh.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
But it's still up from last year's episode 2 ratings, so that's a good sign. It's a VERY good sign, considering several shows on network television are DOWN from their year ago levels. And, except for SV so far, I believe every show on the CW is down as well.

[STFanatic]

Just think how well Smallville would be doing if they ran a advertising blitz showing Kara in the red ... ummm ... outfit she is wearing in the new director's cut. :eek:

I linked some folks I know that don't watch Smallville, and they said they will be watching next Thursday :lol:

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Just think how well Smallville would be doing if they ran a advertising blitz showing Kara in the red ... ummm ... outfit she is wearing in the new director's cut. :eek:

I linked some folks I know that don't watch Smallville, and they said they will be watching next Thursday :lol: :lol: For the return of Lana, right? :p

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
:lol: For the return of Lana, right? :p

More like for the red bikini ;)

I didn't warn them about the Clana.

[Kid Collins]

You guys might find this interesting. This article is from futon critic and it talks about the 3 scenarios that will get a show cancelled.

I'm only quoting the 3rd choice. What I found interesting is the importance networks place on demographics and the initial ratings the show earns the first night it airs.

To read the whole article.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rant.aspx?id=20070910


3. Costing too much. Basically if two shows perform equally well, the show that's cheaper to produce will probably win out. This is especially the case with reality vs. scripted programming. After all, if you're paying $3 million per episode for drama "X" and $1 million per episode for reality show "Y" and both reach the same audience - which would you stick with?


All three are guidelines that apply to shows regardless of network or overall audience. In other words, it doesn't matter if you're on the CW or CBS, average 20 million viewers or two million, a show's life comes down to those three items.


Another thing to keep in mind is that adults 18-49 (or adults 18-34 in the case of the CW) is the primary demographic the broadcast networks focus on, not total viewership or households. So if a show is first in households but third in adults 18-49, don't think the former aspect makes it immune from cancellation. Don't believe us? ABC and FOX only report fast national adults 18-49 numbers to their affiliates each morning.

[STFanatic]

That is another reason when I am doing my weekly survey I still say I am still 49 :p

[ClarkyBoy14]

But I'm sure the CW would still like at least one succesful scripted program. The CW currently only have 3 shows that are doing remotely well. As long as the numbers don't take a huge dip, I don't think we need to worry about SV getting cancelled due to low ratings. Plus, SV atleast gets the CW some recognition.

[LegendaryU2K]

Its still doing good, which is great, despite the lack of promotion.

[hemmy]

I am in a dorm so my viewership isn't counted :(

Feel like I am not contributing :(

[Ares]

Supernatural looks stupid I dont see why they even promote that

[MidgardDragon]

Supernatural started off as a great show, IMO. It went downhill but there are still lots of fans who love it, so let them enjoy it while it lasts.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I really hope we can average over 4 mill an episode. I think we stay over 4 , we are getting renewed no problem for season 8.

[LoisL]

weren't we close to 5 mil with Kara? Fierce might take a dip but if the word of mouth was good from Kara about the new Supergirl, maybe it'll spill over into curious new viewers.

I'm just glad we've been avoiding the 3mil range.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by LoisL
weren't we close to 5 mil with Kara? Fierce might take a dip but if the word of mouth was good from Kara about the new Supergirl, maybe it'll spill over into curious new viewers.

I'm just glad we've been avoiding the 3mil range.

We were over 5 mil for Bizarro and at 4.586 mil for Kara. We're up from last year when a lot of shows are down, so despite not remaining in 5 mil we're doing good. I think Fierce will likely come closer to the lower 4 mil range, then the next few episode, as mythos centric as they seem to be, will take us up to high 4's, possibly 5's.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Did anyone see that the CW has added the tag "Supergirl comes to SV" during that SG promo (the one w/the clips from the end of "Bizarro")? I saw it yesterday. Wonder why they just now decided to add it?

[STFanatic]

I think they are getting ready for the "Supergirl" series.

[MidgardDragon]

Let's hope so. Supergirl seems like our last chance at getting a spinoff after Smallville's over.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I know. And I want a way for SV to go on a bit longer w/o the actual show being dragged out forever, and w/SG they could. And have guest appearances by SV's cast. :D

I still think the CW's stupid for not going w/ a Green Arrow or JL series.

[STFanatic]

CW wanted the Aquaman series, the advertisers didn't.
I am not sure I would watch Aquaman or a Green Arrow series myself.
But if a JLA or a Flash (Bart) series came out, I would be there for sure.

[JEWCY]

FYI

Smallville was the number 1 rated show on CW, beating Smackdown by .2 million viewers

good news

[ClarkyBoy14]

Originally posted by STFanatic
CW wanted the Aquaman series, the advertisers didn't. How did you find that out?

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
How did you find that out?

CW wouldn't have pushed to film the pilot if they didn't want to air the series.
They couldn't sell it to the advertisers, so it didn't make it on the air.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Wasn't the pilot ordered when it was still WB?

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by hemmy
I am in a dorm so my viewership isn't counted :(

Feel like I am not contributing :(

About 97% of the people on this message board aren't counted. We don't have Nielsen boxes. Shoot, there's only like 10,000 people in the whole country who participate in the Nielsen program, so most people aren't counted.

[VAMPIREJUWELL]

Minela, Dang girl your fine as heck, man I would love to sink my well you know in you. hahahaha. one of the best Episodes in a long time.

[bizzaroboy9]

here is the live+ 7 numbers
5.04 million