Bizarro and Kara can fly but Clark still can't

[DarkseidNow]

This has become ridiculous. Kara has been on Earth for five seconds, yet can fly gracefully as if its a practiced sport.

Bizarro, with all of Clark's memories, somehow can fly.

Yet Clark still can't???? Even Chloe said "Clark you got to get on that already!"

That would have been funnier if Clark actually has or will try to fly (Which we know he won't!)

It makes no sense at this point that all these Kryptonians somehow have a mastery over their abilities after being on Earth for such short periods of time, yet it takes Clark so long to master his abilities.

Do all these Kryptonian ships arriving on Earth come with some "How to Cope with a Yellow Sun" manual that Jor-El forgot to drop in Clark's ship.

Now I think that Clark can fly, its just that he doesn't know how to nor has he really tried to learn (idiot!).

[Brizzle]

Clark is still a weenie that is all I have to say.

He still needed Chloe, can he just figure one thing out for himself. Without MM he wouldn't have beat up Bizarro.

[jazel]

he did figure out, how to stop the water, without Chloe. :D

[Shardz]

its a subconscious thing. to fly, first you must fall.

[Brizzle]

Originally posted by jazel
he did figure out, how to stop the water, without Chloe. :D

Well then I guess Clark is 1 for 3 on the year then. Still for once please Clarky boy figure out how to defeat your opponent.

[pizzaguy19]

well kara grew up as a Kryptonian, with access to all their teaching and stuff. I assume that has something to do with it, whereas Clark grew up on earth.

But it has been said that he'll fly this season, so meh.

[MidgardDragon]

Bizarro and Kara can fly but Clark still can't

Thank you for stating the obvious, but what you've forgotten is that Clark can fly, he just doesn't know how yet.

[supermanfan04]

Originally posted by DarkseidNow
This has become ridiculous. Kara has been on Earth for five seconds, yet can fly gracefully as if its a practiced sport.

Bizarro, with all of Clark's memories, somehow can fly.

Yet Clark still can't???? Even Chloe said "Clark you got to get on that already!"

That would have been funnier if Clark actually has or will try to fly (Which we know he won't!)

It makes no sense at this point that all these Kryptonians somehow have a mastery over their abilities after being on Earth for such short periods of time, yet it takes Clark so long to master his abilities.

Do all these Kryptonian ships arriving on Earth come with some "How to Cope with a Yellow Sun" manual that Jor-El forgot to drop in Clark's ship.

Now I think that Clark can fly, its just that he doesn't know how to nor has he really tried to learn (idiot!).


do you people not read the al/miles interviews? has the "no flights no tights" thing not been clear? just get over it already! clark won't fly in smallville!

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by supermanfan04
do you people not read the al/miles interviews? has the "no flights no tights" thing not been clear? just get over it already! clark won't fly in smallville!

Actually, Al/Miles have been kind enough to grace us with Clark flying in Season 4, and have even gone on to told us that he will try or begin to learn how to fly in Season 7, thanks to Kara teaching him. But people STILL want to complain, and there's not a whole lot we can other than stay positive and try to yell louder then the complainers so we don't have to be steeped in negativity.

[supermanfan04]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Actually, Al/Miles have been kind enough to grace us with Clark flying in Season 4, and have even gone on to told us that he will try or begin to learn how to fly in Season 7, thanks to Kara teaching him. But people STILL want to complain, and there's not a whole lot we can other than stay positive and try to yell louder then the complainers so we don't have to be steeped in negativity.

i agree about season 4 but that still wasn't clark, it was kal el. it was very cool to see. i'm looking foward to seeing him try to learn how to fly, but unless al/miles change their mind, i know he's never actually going to. FYI- al or miles one said in an interview that kara can fly b/c girls mature faster thatn boys. i can't remember where i read it tho...

[MidgardDragon]

I wouldn't be so sure that he will never fly. It is highly likely he will fly in the series finale, and we will probably continue to get hints of his flying. And as I said, they've already told us Kara is going to teach him (or try to teach him) how to fly this year. But yeah season 4 was Kal-El, but it still broke the no flights no tights rule on a technicality.

[biggkoz]

Even chloe was saying clark had to get ontop of that flying thing.

[wolverine316]

Originally posted by Brizzle
Well then I guess Clark is 1 for 3 on the year then. Still for once please Clarky boy figure out how to defeat your opponent.

I know it is a national sport on this board to bash Clark but he has beaten opponents in the past without any help.

[Estro-gen X]

Originally posted by pizzaguy19

But it has been said that he'll fly this season, so meh.

of his own will or kara carrying him?:o


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Thank you for stating the obvious, but what you've forgotten is that Clark can fly, he just doesn't know how yet.

indeed- he floated in the very first season! subconsiously:D

[Mello Penelo]

I posted this in another thread. Reposting because I feel it's significant.

Ok, think of it this way. When Clark came to Earth as a child, he was like a AAA battery. Can't hold that much juice.

As he grew, his body got bigger. He was like a AA, then a D, now a 9 Volt.

He gained his powers gradually because his body wasn't able to hold enough sunlight growing up. He could only do what his battery size allowed.

Now, with Nam-Ek, Aethyr, Raya and Kara, they came to Earth already as 9 Volt batteries because they were fully grown.

Ever jumped a car? It automatically starts running. That's what the sun did to the other Kryptonians.

[Joelito]

meh! Clark doesn't know how to fly... maybe needs some happy thoughts :D

[Angelina2809]

Clark flow with Lana in the 100th episode of smallville!!!!!

[supermanfan04]

Originally posted by Angelina2809
Clark flow with Lana in the 100th episode of smallville!!!!!

he didn't fly, he jumped.

[Shardz]

Al and Miles have always said things that DC prevents them from doing but smallville sometimes contradicts those statements. I believe too many people will want to see clark fly. Its too much of a popular aspect of Superman to ignore. All the little references with Clark being afraid of heights, the not so obvious subtleness of Clark superjumping/flying, Chloe's little jabs at the Superman Mythos.

Its inevitable that we'll see Clark Kent finally fly in Smallville.

[Sub Snake]

Anyway isnt Bizarro a WRAITH from the PZ? Didnt he already know?

[lexthesmooth]

Clark is in many ways limited by his human attachment and emotions. Something that he is unwilling to let go of for it is a part of who he is. He was sent to the kens for a reason. That reason was to teach him morals as well as give him an understanding of what man is capable of. This humanity gets in the way. He also never listens to Jor-El. If he had he would be way beyond the poin he is atnow. Also all of the things that teach him about his home world get destroyed.

I do not think he will fly, or that they will show him flying anyway.

I agree I wish he would fly also, but that is kind of the finalization of him being superman and the changing of his personalit. There is much more for him to gain before he can be Superman. I mean he needs to go to journalism school first and take a nerd class.

Kara, on the other hand was older than him to begin with. So she would be fully matured and she does not obtain the human emotions that clark possesses.

We also need to remember that Clark hates hights. So he is not that interested in learning to fly.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Blame the writers.

[HowardFilms]

Blame the fact that they don't want to do an injustice to the bad guys, but they want to build up to flying. The very fact we discuss it so much is a testament to their success. They're making us want it so much...

Besides, if he doesn't have one trump card left, the show will be even more FOTW than before, there will be less growth to him in the series.

[Welling21]

i don't think Clark will ever fly as himself. the powers that be won't allow it; which sucks but what can you do about it. i would however like to see Clark attempt it or try.

[boingo]

Originally posted by Joelito
meh! Clark doesn't know how to fly... maybe needs some happy thoughts :D

lol ...and some pixie dust.

[olliejk]

Originally posted by supermanfan04
do you people not read the al/miles interviews? has the "no flights no tights" thing not been clear? just get over it already! clark won't fly in smallville!


Let ME make this clear. "No flights no tights is a guideline set down by producers of a TV show. Some might say it is written in stone, but there is NO SUCH THING as "written in stone" for TV show guidelines. Producers of Star Trek used to always make up rules about Time Travel episodes. Some of the best episodes occurred When they broke those rules.

It is NOT an international treaty, it is not the word of God (and no al/miles are NOT gods) nor is it in any way something they HAVE to stick to. There was a reason to stick to it in season 1, and season 2, and heck maybe up to season "x", but as SOME point it is stupid to keep this up. Seriously some of the "outs" they've used are getting ridiculous. Remember when he told Lana his secret, then had to erase that day from time. One of the several times he flew which was later backed out of. Or how about "That wasn't me that was Kal-El'?

If TPTB woke up one day and said..."hmmm it makes sense for him to start flying for story-line "x"" get the boy a new toothbrush cuz he's gonna have bugs in his teeth.


Sorry to vent on you, but when people hold the "no tights no flights" rule up as some sort of unbreakable law of physics it kind of bugs me. It's no such thing.



P.S. Anyone else think this is a power which Clark could develop if he just had 30 minutes with a good shrink.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by lexthesmooth
I mean he needs to go to journalism school first and take a nerd class.

A nerd class? I am two classes of shy of getting a bachelors of arts in journalism and I most certainly not a nerd. :mad:

Do you even KNOW what the inside of a university looks like? :mad:

[olliejk]

There is a comic book out there "Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder" which is out of standard DC continuity. The Batman in it is a bit more of a jerk, and the version of Superman in it doesn't fly. In a recent one, Batman refers to Superman as an idiot how doesn't even know he can fly. I totally thought of Smallville when I read that.


Originally posted by Mello Penelo
A nerd class? I am two classes of shy of getting a bachelors of arts in journalism and I most certainly not a nerd. :mad:

Do you even KNOW what the inside of a university looks like? :mad:


no no no, he meant AND a nerd class. It's an available as a standard elective for most majors (you might have taken something else). I double majored in Physics and Astronomy, so it was a prerequisite for me. :D

[lexthesmooth]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
A nerd class? I am two classes of shy of getting a bachelors of arts in journalism and I most certainly not a nerd. :mad:

Do you even KNOW what the inside of a university looks like? :mad:

Yes, I am a college graduate. And I am sure you will make a great journalist. I wish you well:-) The thought was not pointing out that because he is a journalist he is a nerd. Come on he is Superman.

What I was seeking to communicate is that the old comic book Clark Kent would not work with the Smallville series. Right now he is too cool to pull of the mild mannerd bubling reporter of the old days. Other than in spoofs, they have not done anything to make him resemble the nerd. I was wondering if they will ever add this side of Clark or if they will leave that out like they are thinking of doing with the no flying thing.

In no way was I seeking to put down my hero Superman.

[last man of krypton]

Bizarro and Kara can fly but Clark still can't

Not so much can't, as won't.

[australian infected]

No tights no flights (ring a bell?)

[olliejk]

Originally posted by australian infected
No tights no flights (ring a bell?)


Yes it does. It was a comment made by two human beings who were not under any legal obligations (unless Tom Welling has a clause in his contract saying no tights) to stick to said comment for season 7, 8, or 8291312.

Some seem to think this was written in stone, but dude, get this straight, for a simple little TV show...THERE IS NO SUCH THING!!!! If as some point it seems like a good idea to do it, they will freakin do it.

I am always amazed that some people can assume the guidelines to the show are so inflexible. Dude stuff changes! The show has been around for a while, probably longer than expected. They achieved what they wanted to by putting off flying, the show has moved on. If it works best for the story line for him to fly, it's just flat stupid to not do it.


I just want to close with this. If you go outside with an umbrella when it's raining, and it stops raining, you can put your umbrella away. If put on a coat when it's cold, and it gets warm, you can take it off. If it starts making sense, and the story naturally progress to the point that Clark should fly...he will fly.

[Dean_19]

I think in the early seasons it made sense for him not to fly. His abilities were developing and none of the FOTW's could fly.

But now we have so many references to flying and a load of other flying characters (Lex when he had powers, MM, Bizarro, Kara), it makes sense that TPTB are gearing up for the introduction of flying Clark. It's just too unlikely that Clark would see all these flying Kryptonians and other characters and not think, "right, I'm gonna get this one sorted".

Plus they are now regularly showing Clark doing super jumps which is practically flying. He might as well fly!

[smallvillefan72]

He Just has to learn to not hit the ground when he jumps :p

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by smallvillefan72
He Just has to learn to not hit the ground when he jumps :p

That's how they did it in the Superman Returns novel (which was different from the movie). He just willed himself not to touch the ground when he jumped.

[MrZeppo]

I just think Clark doesn't really want to fly. Look at the look on his face when Chloe calls him on it. He doesn't look thrilled or anything at the prospect. Because it will just be one more thing that makes him different. That's he's even more different than us. When he remembered flying as Kal-El, it scared him.

Kal-El can fly, Zod can fly, Bizarro can fly, and even Kara can fly. Because they can let go of their inhibitions. The closest Clark comes to that is when he's on Red K.

We've seen Clark admit here in this episode that he keeps trying to be human, but he's starting to see he's not and coming to terms with it. He's lived his entire life holding back who he is because he's afraid of the consequences. He uses his abilities, but very rarely lets go and just enjoys them. I think being able to fly comes hand in hand with really letting go, which Clark has yet to do himself.

[Krpyto]

Originally posted by DarkseidNow
This has become ridiculous. Kara has been on Earth for five seconds, yet can fly gracefully as if its a practiced sport.

Bizarro, with all of Clark's memories, somehow can fly.

Yet Clark still can't???? Even Chloe said "Clark you got to get on that already!"

That would have been funnier if Clark actually has or will try to fly (Which we know he won't!)

It makes no sense at this point that all these Kryptonians somehow have a mastery over their abilities after being on Earth for such short periods of time, yet it takes Clark so long to master his abilities.

Do all these Kryptonian ships arriving on Earth come with some "How to Cope with a Yellow Sun" manual that Jor-El forgot to drop in Clark's ship.

Now I think that Clark can fly, its just that he doesn't know how to nor has he really tried to learn (idiot!).


I agree with this post. It's ridiculous that Clark cannot fly when he has been on earth longer and been under the influence of the yellow sun longer than any other Kryptonian to appear. Just let him fly its not going to drastically change the show.

[Sweetie]

Can we at least see him trying to fly sometimes?Like everybody is saying he saw other kryptonians do it.He should have give him a pretty good idea that he can do it no?I mean it would be pretty funny to see him trying to take off then fall on his butt,gets up and try it again.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by MrZeppo
I just think Clark doesn't really want to fly. Look at the look on his face when Chloe calls him on it. He doesn't look thrilled or anything at the prospect. Because it will just be one more thing that makes him different. That's he's even more different than us. When he remembered flying as Kal-El, it scared him.

Kal-El can fly, Zod can fly, Bizarro can fly, and even Kara can fly. Because they can let go of their inhibitions. The closest Clark comes to that is when he's on Red K.

We've seen Clark admit here in this episode that he keeps trying to be human, but he's starting to see he's not and coming to terms with it. He's lived his entire life holding back who he is because he's afraid of the consequences. He uses his abilities, but very rarely lets go and just enjoys them. I think being able to fly comes hand in hand with really letting go, which Clark has yet to do himself.

This is the best remark I've seen on this board. I agree 100%.

[Krpyto]

Well its time /boggle. This is season 7.

[lana kent 04]

Originally posted by australian infected
No tights no flights (ring a bell?)

thank you. at least someone else gets it.

[thebog1]

Another reason to take into consideration...

His abilities are based on his embracing his Kryptonian side. He (Clark Kent) was raised as a human by humans and so he doesn't embrace his Kryptonian hertiage as much.

As far as Kara (the real one) is concerned, she came to Earth and, for all intents and purposes, has no humanity so her abilities are a lot more dominant.

The same is true with Bizarro and Clark's DNA. Bizarro doesn't embrace Clark's humanity so the powers he can access are complete (though there's a question mark about one or two)...

Clark, as Kal-El, has access to his 'flying' ability so it goes to show that the embracing of the Kryptonian heritage must make some kind of difference.

With that said, there's one power we haven't seen that we need to. I'll post a new thread on it in the 7-2 forum.

[Krpyto]

Originally posted by lana kent 04
thank you. at least someone else gets it.

No flights, no tights made sense early on because Clark was young and still in high school. At the time no one knew there would be a season 7. But it IS season 7.

Come on people he is an adult now and needs to be expanding his abilities. Just as he did with x-ray vision, heat vision etc. It's time for him to be able to fly. It's the logical progression of things. It's time.

[Greenmeanie]

Does anyone remember if Raya flew?? I don't think she did. They just ran/raced together. I didn't see her fly. I think if she did fly, Clark would have asked her about it like he asked about Jor-el. He was learning from her more of his Kryptonian heritage. He wasn't able to ask because she didn't do it, right??

[aXem]

I think it makes sense that he can't fly.

It's better to leave that for later.

Just another thing he can learn when he starts his real training.

[LexLuv180]

I think it's funny. Clark is the only Kryptonian who can't fly, and he's also the one with the tiny ship lol.

[Dri-Sa]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I posted this in another thread. Reposting because I feel it's significant.

Ok, think of it this way. When Clark came to Earth as a child, he was like a AAA battery. Can't hold that much juice.

As he grew, his body got bigger. He was like a AA, then a D, now a 9 Volt.

He gained his powers gradually because his body wasn't able to hold enough sunlight growing up. He could only do what his battery size allowed.

Now, with Nam-Ek, Aethyr, Raya and Kara, they came to Earth already as 9 Volt batteries because they were fully grown.

Ever jumped a car? It automatically starts running. That's what the sun did to the other Kryptonians.

thats a cool way to think about it.

[Krpyto]

Yea well he is an adult now. Time for him to Fly.