What did you hate about "Bizarro"?

[Nospam]

Anyone?

[Routh]

You forgot these, J:

- How the phuck is Lex going to explain the dead guy in his jail cell, or how he escaped, for that matter? Bizarro ripped the guy's organs out, and it'll never be brought up again.

- Lana got to China in a few short, short hours. Not even remotely possible. Phantom/Bizarro occurs over ONE day, and China being a communist country and requiring passports and Visas, I high doubt Lana could get there and get an apartment so fast.

- I guess Lex isn't going to wonder why Bizarro needed meteor rock to kill Clark. Lex knows Bizarro is super strong, so why would Bizarro need ANYTHING to kill Clark? Lex will never ask again.

- After all the trouble Bizarro goes through to kill Clark, he just knocks him out and walks away so Clark can heal. WTF? Bizarro's whole motivation was to kill Clark.

- No one will ever question Chloe's death. The doctors and nurses know, and despite Chloe burning the certificate, THEY STILL KNOW.

- WHERE THE PHUCK IS SHELBY!?

[MidgardDragon]

I didn't really hate these things, but I would've liked answers to them:

Chloe's power - really want to know how it works. If they just brush it off and ignore it because some whiny fans can't shutup about poor little Chloe getting a power, then that's just bullsh*t.

Lana's wig - seriously, wtf? that scene could've been better and extended in the first place, but the wig made NO sense.

[myankskent]

"....her soft skin..." OK, where the hell is the real Lex Luthor?

That's my choice.

[MidgardDragon]

Sounds like Lex to me. He's always kind of been a blubbering idiot around women, but Lana in particular turned him into a real softy.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Routh
You forgot these, J:

Yeah, the jail cell details are going to be hard to gloss over even when Lex beats Lana's murder rap.

I was going to mention Lana's supersonic flight to China, but we really don't know when that scene is set. It could be several days after the events of Bizarro. I am giving the show the benefit of the doubt here.

Another thing I had to wonder about is why any enemy that is aware of Clark's secret, like Bizarro, is always so reluctant to tell the world. Shhhhh, let's keep this on the down low.... uh, why?

Chloe's death is also a plot hole. She wakes up and... whatever. Smallville Medical Centre apparently doesn't care or is used to missing and reanimated corpses.


Originally posted by myankskent
"....her soft skin..." OK, where the hell is the real Lex Luthor?

That's my choice.

Easily some of the worst lines Michael has ever had to utter as Lex. Over the top cheesy.

As much as this is a complaint thread, I still loved this episode. There really wasn't a lot to complain about.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Nospam

As much as this is a complaint thread, I still loved this episode. There really wasn't a lot to complain about.

Totally agree. I really did enjoy this one.

[Minela]

People, Lex was in shock. You would be too if you almost died and had some angel looking chick who flys save you. He was disoriented.

But the Lana disguise? Now that was beyond lame.

[Queenrocks77]

I was pretty annoyed abou the Chloe power thing!!! The Kara flying around like a pro crap is Really annoying! Clark has been adjusting to and learning how to use and control his powers for years now!!! So she just wake up and becomes Supergirl?? I can't wait to here the explaination for that one! ........... And where is Shelby?? :lol:

[MidgardDragon]

Easy on the Kara one: she arrives fully matured and with all her powers in-tow. Clark grew up from birth not realizing he'd ever have them and had to adjust to them gradually.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Easy on the Kara one: she arrives fully matured and with all her powers in-tow. Clark grew up from birth not realizing he'd ever have them and had to adjust to them gradually.

That's certainly true, but is has nothing to do with "girls develop faster." Unless Al is saying that tongue in cheek.

[Kii]

Anyone else bugged about Clark not tracking down Bizarro when he punched Bizarro in the beginning?

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by Nospam


Chloe's death is also a plot hole. She wakes up and... whatever. Smallville Medical Centre apparently doesn't care or is used to missing and reanimated corpses.

It happens.....in smallville. they are probably just like "Dangit, not another one. 3rd one this month."

They didn't exactly question clarks reappearance in the world of the living back in the 5th season.

what bugged me was Chloe, the supposedly smart journalist, thinking that burning that certificate would make the certificate disappear and magically make her alive to the eye government and everything. The sheet was typed up, so the info has obviously already been sent to who ever declares people dead in the system.

though this explains why she doesn't work at the Daily Planet with Clark and Lois later in life. She doesn't have a SS# anymore, therefore can't have a job.

[Spirit Detective]

I hated that we never actually saw what happened to Bizarro. What exactly did Martian Manhunter do to him?

I hope that Bizarro returns in the future. He has much more potential.

[Shardz]

i didnt like how clark just easily vaporized the whole dam water. that seemed way to easy for clark and for me to believe. i wanted them to throw an homage to the supes movies with superman saving the dam in his traditional way. something like clark getting all the wood and mud in front of the flowing dam.

also wouldve been just easier believe to save the boy and his dad.

[Kii]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
I hated that we never actually saw what happened to Bizarro. What exactly did Martian Manhunter do to him?
Pretty sure I remember Clark saying Bizarro is on the 'Sunny side of Mars'

[Runestone]

I have a feeling we're going to learn more about Chloe's death in the next couple of episodes and it's not just a plothole. I think we were supposed to get the impression that Chloe can't really die?

One thing I hated was how Lana was looking at the moon and they changed the view to Clark looking at it just to emphasise that Clana is the greatest thing EVAR .:rolleyes:

[Kii]

Originally posted by Runestone
One thing I hated was how Lana was looking at the moon and they changed the view to Clark looking at it just to emphasise that Clana is the greatest thing EVAR .:rolleyes:
Haha, yeah. I laughed at that scene.

[svtwamedfan05]

the whole Lana scene didn't seem to fit in the episode. It was too cartoony

[thedean123]

only thing that bugged me was I was hoping for a reoccuring pressence from bizarro not just a one episode run

[paolinki25]

Lana's disguise was plain dumb, and the scene so forced and unnecessary.

[Tomsgurl88]

NO COMPLAINTS HERE!:D

[YouandMe1105]

Originally posted by svtwamedfan05
the whole Lana scene didn't seem to fit in the episode. It was too cartoony

It was corny, cheesey and didn't belong. It was one of the few scenes that made this a sub-par season premiere.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by thedean123
only thing that bugged me was I was hoping for a reoccuring pressence from bizarro not just a one episode run

Keep watching.

[Angellegna]

Originally posted by Runestone
One thing I hated was how Lana was looking at the moon and they changed the view to Clark looking at it just to emphasise that Clana is the greatest thing EVAR .:rolleyes:

That is the one thing that really got on my nerves this episode!! Grr :rolleyes:

Lex wanting to be good again? Great. They flip flop way too much on this show :lol: Clana. *flip* No Clana. *flop* Good Lex. *flip* Lexana. *flop* Evil Lex. *flip* Clana. *flop* No Lexana. *flip* Clana. *flop* Good Lex?? It's exhausting, trying to keep up with this love triangle and the good/bad Lex thing :lol:

[CLANA4evr]

Not enough Lana in the episode for me. I hated that she was only in for 30 seconds.

And I loved that last scene with Clana. They DO have a special relationship. It's been that way since the Pilot and it will be until the end.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Angellegna
That is the one thing that really got on my nerves this episode!! Grr :rolleyes:

Lex wanting to be good again? Great. They flip flop way too much on this show :lol: Clana. *flip* No Clana. *flop* Good Lex. *flip* Lexana. *flop* Evil Lex. *flip* Clana. *flop* No Lexana. *flip* Clana. *flop* Good Lex?? It's exhausting, trying to keep up with this love triangle and the good/bad Lex thing :lol:

Man, I got tired just reading that post. Whew!

You're right. This show is all about "reversals."

[Kalerado]

Originally posted by Shardz
i didnt like how clark just easily vaporized the whole dam water. that seemed way to easy for clark and for me to believe. i wanted them to throw an homage to the supes movies with superman saving the dam in his traditional way. something like clark getting all the wood and mud in front of the flowing dam.

also wouldve been just easier believe to save the boy and his dad.

My sentiments exactly!
He could've used freeze-breath (maybe?), but dang! ...vaporizing a whole tidal wave using 1 laser beam from each eye in IMPOSSIBLE!... no matter how hot they are!!

[Angellegna]

I thought he was going to freeze the water but evaporating it was really clever of him I thought!!

[DivineDreamer]

"Help me out here, asian looking Lana hides in Shanghai. Smart. Decides to blend in.... and wear a cheap blond wig? Retarded."

Exactly what I was thinking. Why oh why did they have to bring Lana back? :(


Originally posted by Spirit Detective
I hated that we never actually saw what happened to Bizarro. What exactly did Martian Manhunter do to him?

I hope that Bizarro returns in the future. He has much more potential.

Bizarro is gone :\ He was 'supposly' thrown into the sun so he could poof away and die.

[Alexander III]

Martian Manhunter kicked batista's ass, and Clark couldn't even lay a hand on batista...and now u're saying Manhunter doesn't want to fight Bizarre??
This is sad!!

[MidgardDragon]

Woah woah, that Lana scene didn't fit the episode, but it most certainly wasn't an emphasis on Clana being "the greatest thing EVAR". It's not the type of plot you can just drop, so they were just showing the two people who are in love are still looking at the same moon, even though Clark doesn't know she still exists. It's not about making Clana into something great, it's about continuing a developing plot thread.

[svtwamedfan05]

lol, but remember there has to be a Bizarro Superman sometime in the future. Like Brainac, Bizarro is never really gone- gone ;)

[MidgardDragon]

Bizarro wasn't thrown into the sun, MM took him to the sunny side of Mars, according to Chloe.

[ginnyfan]

Nothing really. I'm stunned...

Oh yeah... the weird fisherman who abducted Lionel. I hate him.

[MidgardDragon]

We don't know who it is or even if it's a fisherman, so hate's a strong word. I'm going with the theory that it's whoever is supposed to Misery-style abduct him.

[smallvillerocks45]

I honestly found little to dislike...so my vote was for "nothing really".

[Krypton935]

NOTHING!!! the whole episode was amazing!!!! The only problem was that it was too short!

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Bizarro's face effect's and Lana's blonde wig. :lol:

[spicyblark]

Everything on the list was bad, but the wig topped it for me.

[Lobby4Chloe]

OK. I'm Asian and I *loved* the blond wig. I'd wear it even if I wasn't in hiding.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Oh, also, I hated that Chloe came back.

[spicyblark]

And what was up with Lex, Luthors do not become sentimental.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Lobby4Chloe
OK. I'm Asian and I *loved* the blond wig. I'd wear it even if I wasn't in hiding.

My point, and that of several others, is that if you're Asian or Asian looking trying to maintain a low profile in an Asian city putting on a blond wig makes absolutely no sense and defeats the purpose.


Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Oh, also, I hated that Chloe came back.

That's really not all that surprising.

[smallville sage]

A lot of very good points have been made here. However . . . one of the worst things about the show was how choppy it was. No one's mentioned this? The scenes looked like they were sewn together like Frankenstein.

And what did Lois DO exactly at Lex's mansion? Was that scene for ANY other purpose than just so Bizarro could grab Lois' a$$? 'Cuz it didn't look like it. All so later she could scold Clark for it? That was wasted time they could have spent developing the plot or making other scenes more believable.

Furthermore, the time they spent with Chloe and Clark at the end--their usual talk--was also wasted time because neither of them said anything they haven't before in other conversations.

Lastly, Lana DIED. Chloe DIED. And all we get from Clark are little grimaces here and there and a tad bit of rage? EVERYONE else in death scenes gives us some real desperation and sadness for more than 2 seconds. Why is Clark so bottled up? He'd better open up at some point this year, because it's kind of boring to watch him suck it up all the time.

[Joelito]

The blonde Lana xD

[hemmy]

Instead of Wheres Waldo, we can play Locate Lana in Shanghai

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/551/mplayerc200709280948067nx6.jpg



Originally posted by Routh
You forgot these, J:
- Lana got to China in a few short, short hours. Not even remotely possible. Phantom/Bizarro occurs over ONE day, and China being a communist country and requiring passports and Visas, I high doubt Lana could get there and get an apartment so fast.


The apartment thing is unrealistic, but we have to assume someone helped Lana fake her death and get her to China.

Not only that, but It didn't show Lana in China until the end of the day. Remember, Lana was probably on the plane shortly after the car explosion in the S6 finale.

[kavalier]

Im kind of wondering why we are even having a "hate" thread for such a fantastic episode. Lighten up. So Lana wore a cheap wig. That doesnt change the fact that this episode knocked it out of the park. Clark is truly starting to become Superman and I am lovin' it.

[President_Luthor]

"... her soft skin ..." LOL! That whole Lex-is-dazed scene, while the tough brunette chick (for this post's purposes, let's just call her Mercy) is barking orders and trying snap the real Lex out of his 'second chance at life' dreaming, was odd.

Maybe he was still in rapture at having been touched by an angel, or something. Listen to Mercy, Lex, and get back on that megalomaniacal horse. I think that scene was also there to leave the door ajar for more Lexana this season, too.

Her soft skin. LOL! Just ... plain ... weird.

Congrats, Lex. Your application to the Smallville Stalker's Club has been approved.

[margroks]

I think Clark vaporized everything, trees and all, to make a dam. I kept yelling, "Freeze it!" but he didn't listen.

What is this Chloe's hypocrisy about secrets? Not true at all. Chloe, like Clark, is having trouble accepting she is different, especially since her difference just popped up out of nowhere recently and Clark has had a lifetime to accept and learn to cope with his.

But as for Kara? Being stuck in suspended animation in a ship for all these years doesn't equate to springing out of the ship full blown. Kryptonians need to absorb the yellow sun, get to a point at which that builds up in their systems and then experience and learn to control them. Since Kara is a teenager, she would have to reach a threshhold and learn as Clark did, wouldn't she? The hormones of puberty are a factor here but Kara was in suspended animation all this time. and I call BS on the claim that "Girls mature faster" as the lamest excuse ever to have her fly but niot Clark. He has known since season one he could do it and what I really want and deserve to see is CLARK coming to grips with that fear of heights and learning to fly not kara in whom I have no interest or investment. This is all marginalizing Clark inf avor of a guest star just as they did last year with GA.

And Lana; could we not have gotten at least one ep without haivng Lana show up? What a shame she, and not some helpless person, got killed. Lana proves once again she is a heartless ***** by setting up Lex for a murder he didn't committ and by killing another person to do so. She's had a string of murders (Jason's mom-covered up by the Luthors and now this- someone dying in her place and Lex framed for it so she could get off clean. And it's ridiculous to show her in SHanghai since it takes time and money to get there and get set up; China is not easy to get into considering the paperwork you have to fill out and the scrutiny you're under, not to mention she stood out like a sore thumb in that stupid blond wig.

I also thought that while the hospital scene with Calrk being crushed to hear Chloe died, staggering down the hallway and overwhelmed by the chos around him only to zero in on Chloe's voice crying for help was great, it was cut short by Chloe seeing Lana's death certificate, all too conveniently, so then despite Chloe's miraculous return from the dead it became once again, and all too predictably, all about Lana. I could have done without that.

"Lois" was her usual cluless self, never figuring out Clark was OOC, dessed differently, and wasn't at the hospital which, by the way, was where "Lois" should havestayed. It was ludicrous to think she could find out anything at the manison and she should have been with ehr cousin instead of delegating it to Clark. It was a lame excuse to get "Lois" out of the hospital but it did showcase her lack of investigative ability.

[Randy G.]

I didn't choose any of them. Why bother?
I don't care if they served up an episode, totally perfect in every way,
you'll still have your standard crew of haters come out & rip it up. :rolleyes: :lol:

The only hating I did, was on the massive amount of commercials. ;)

[thehenry89]

all of the above, but overall it wasn't a bad ep :).

[kryptonaidxh]

:rolleyes: all lana scenes, and I was relly happpy thinking she was death:( , also; like putting a blond wig she could hide from Lex, please!:rolleyes: , she ´s a real fool.:p

[Bluestreak]

Here's my take on the episode:
Bizarro: Why isn't he a backwards Kal-El? He's essentially Red Kryptonite Clark.

Lana: I used to like her character until we got beat over the head by her presense where it wasn't needed... the death certificate in a Smallville Hospital? Why? IIRC, she wasn't born, nor did she die in Smallville, so why would the hospital get that record? Who took Lana's place in the morgue? That cheapened Chloe's stay in the freezer.

Chloe: Burning the death certificate is symbolic, but unless she got to it before it was entered into "city records" she won't be considered "dead" -- that's a "Days of Our Lives" trick.

Lex: "What dead body?"

Martian Manhunter: Totally wasted premise. I'd prefer Clark to beat the bag out of Bizarro, then have Biz take off to come back later... having J'onn grab him after getting (Down-Down-Up X) punched made the victory hollow.

Clark: When did Brian Regan start writing for SV? "The big yellow one is the sun!"

Lois: Why was she in this ep? So we could see "Clark" grab her ass.

Supergirl: Since I missed the very beginning of the EP, I didn't see where she came from. I gathered her power, and knowledge of the power comes from her wristband. She'd better give Clark a reason to start his training. This is a chance for Clark to Super-Man up.

In conclusion: Clark isn't in high school anymore... the "young Clark" or "Dawson's Creek with superpowers" is getting tired. There needs to be a point where Clark starts maturing. I know there's the rule of "No tights, no flights" -- but watching everyone else around him get away with it, and Clark constantly being overwhelmed and underpowered and still winning fights (with the assistance of another superpower) is getting old.

[xrayvision]

If after hearing Clark's statements he still doesn't train, then I don't know what else to say. He shouldn't need Kara or anyone pushing him anymore. He should have all he needs now. His words sounded very mature and words of someone who is about to train.

[Derrickray]

Originally posted by kavalier
Im kind of wondering why we are even having a "hate" thread for such a fantastic episode. Lighten up. So Lana wore a cheap wig. That doesnt change the fact that this episode knocked it out of the park. Clark is truly starting to become Superman and I am lovin' it.

I don't think anyone here hates the episode; it's all in good fun. :)

It seems like everyone has done a 180. Chloe being secretive, Lex doing the right thing, and Clark blaming people for being weak are all vast changes to their characters.

That being said, the Lana had me like :eek:

[xrayvision]

The main things I didn't like about the episode are:

1. Too much grieving over Lana's "death" in 1 episode. They should spread this out over a few episodes than have so much in one episode.

2. Chloe's hypocrisy in Clark opening up to her and she not reciprocating.

3. Lois. I think her presence was pointless in this episode. Why the hell did she leave Chloe (who she supposedly loves) alone at the hospital? What did she expect to find from Lex? She is way too impulsive on this show (more than the classic Lois is). What she did in Phantom was almost as stupid as Lana hanging around the shaking gas main in Obscura.

4. The resolution of Clark's cliffhanger from Phantom. I would think he would have been severely weakened by Bizarro's blow and be temporarily vulnerable to stuff that he normally wouldn't (i.e. drowning).

5. Bizarro. He was too much like red-k Clark in that scene with Lois. That scene should have been deleted. If he is devoid of a concious, then he would have killed her like Lex's guy in the jail and the power company guy. I also wanted to see some classic Bizarro stuff, like more of the face. That didn't disappoint me though. I really wanted to see his alternate powers (freeze vision, x-ray hearing, vacuum breath, heat breath). I hope when he returns he uses that. Instead, it seemed like he also has heatvision. Hopefully when he returns his face will be all broken up and will have all the classic powers.

6. Chloe's death. This was not at all dramatic and very poorly handled.

What I liked though were the Clark-Bizarro scenes, the Clark-MM scenes, the Clark-Chloe conversation at the end, and the Lex scenes.

I just don't know about Kara. For some reason, I don't sense that she has charisma from the trailers and from her demeanor on top of the water tower. I don't know. I won't mind her as long as she doesn't take over the show. So for now, I'll reserve judgment.

[Kal-alien]

I'm torn. It was weak how clark just punched bizzarro in the sun and knocked him to Jupiter. seemed kinda silly is all. All that build up for one punch. I dunno. I thought his fight with Titan was better

[musictech]

You left out 1, the 25 minutes of commercials.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by President_Luthor
Her soft skin. LOL! Just ... plain ... weird.

Congrats, Lex. Your application to the Smallville Stalker's Club has been approved.

:lol: I thought that line was ridiculous as well. Please, give me the real Lex Luthor back.

[ClarksGal]

The only one that really seemed weird was Lana's disguise. Not exactly blending in. But, it didn't really bother me much, so whatever. I thought that it was normal for Lex to say those things about Lana...he's not all the way evil yet and I'm glad they're not just making him all the way badass yet. He has his moments, and he'll get there all the way I'm sure, but I like that he's complex. He has a journey too.

I liked this episode a lot. Can't really find much to complain about personally, except Lana's wig. :) Big deal.

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by maryjanewatson


what bugged me was Chloe, the supposedly smart journalist, thinking that burning that certificate would make the certificate disappear and magically make her alive to the eye government and everything. The sheet was typed up, so the info has obviously already been sent to who ever declares people dead in the system.
.

I didnt take it as being stupid...just took it as she's not dead anymore so it was more symbolic to her, she also is trying to sweep her 'power' under the rug with Clark. So..yeah symbolic. And the scene came right after Clark was saying how everyone he loves is going to die some day so why does he even bother...so that was cool how they morphed the scenes between Clark and Chloe, Lex and Lana, and then Clark and Lana...the music was awesome too. :lol: Loved it!!!

[Radioflyer]

My problems with the episode was...

1.Bizarro was beat too quickly, should have
lasted another episode. They did the same
thing with Zod.

Bizarro's face disortion effect was bizzar, it's
who he is.

There's a serious lack of flying in Smallville.

The Martian Manhunter needs to get his own
show.

Blond and bright colored wigs are very popular
in China and Japan but are worn to attract
attention. But who ever accused Lana of being
smart?

[DarkChilde]

I had to vote 'nothing really'
But some of the scenes didn't seem to flow very good. The scene from the Morgue to Chloe's Apartment is a perfect example of this. Chloe is usually focused and Clark all strung out in Emotions, this was just the opposite.

[Runestone]

Originally posted by DarkChilde

But some of the scenes didn't seem to flow very good. The scene from the Morgue to Chloe's Apartment is a perfect example of this. Chloe is usually focused and Clark all strung out in Emotions, this was just the opposite.

Well, she had just literally risen from the dead :\. Most people would be strung out and emotional after something like that. She'll be back to her old self once she assesses the situation and comes to terms with it. Hopefully.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by smallville sage


Lastly, Lana DIED. Chloe DIED. And all we get from Clark are little grimaces here and there and a tad bit of rage? EVERYONE else in death scenes gives us some real desperation and sadness for more than 2 seconds. Why is Clark so bottled up? He'd better open up at some point this year, because it's kind of boring to watch him suck it up all the time.
I would actually rather not have clark crying all the time. It took a while for Clark to cry for his dad's death, why should he start balling right away for Lana or Chloe?

I loved when Clark cried for his dad in "vengance." it was so genuine looking and it broke my heart, but that doesn't mean I want to see him crying all the time. I know most girls say they want an extremely sensitive guy, but this girl doesn't.


anyways, another thing that irked me in this episode was when Lois slapped Bizclark and his head moved and she didn't hurt her hand. This has happened before. In "transference" when lionel-clark is telling lana about her succulent fruit and she slaps him. She doesn't hurt her hand, and Lioclark moves his head and even grabs his face afterwards. Do the people at smallville just FORGET he is hard as steel?

[Tacitus]

Blonde Lana. I didnt need to see that. They could have put up a warning or something: beware Lana in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and I would have switched to something else.

[Clarkgirl8]

The bizarro weird face was a little annoying to me but not as much as the police car effect.. lame... Lex Luthor where are your balls???... lame... OMG and 'THE WIG'.... LAME!!!!

[pizzaguy19]

"Girls develop faster" is a horsesh!t reason for Kara to be able to fly.

nah, she grew up on krypton, it makes sense for her to have fully developed powers, while clark left there as a baby.

"....her soft skin..." OK, where the hell is the real Lex Luthor?

that was extremely lame

Chloe's hypocrisy regarding secrets. Clark came clean, her not so much.

Clark came clean in what, 5 seasons? lol. And she's definitely in denial here, I think it was a good reaction from her to not go blabbing about being a metoer freak this episode.

The Martian Manhunter couldn't help Clark fight Bizarro because... he had a hair appointment? Expired meter? Battery died? What? Lame.

He did help though, sped him off towards the sun and stuff. Clark's a lone wolf, probably told him to wait outside.

Help me out here, asian looking Lana hides in Shanghai. Smart. Decides to blend in.... and wear a cheap blond wig? Retarded.

That scene was the most unnecessary and stupid scene in the epi. And that includes the Kara scenes.

- How the phuck is Lex going to explain the dead guy in his jail cell, or how he escaped, for that matter? Bizarro ripped the guy's organs out, and it'll never be brought up again.

Hear hear. I was wondering about that when they brought him back in. What's his explanation for breaking a jail door off it's hinges, leaving a dead employee in jail, then turning himself back in later?

No one will ever question Chloe's death. The doctors and nurses know, and despite Chloe burning the certificate, THEY STILL KNOW.

Yea, though I think there's still more coming about this one. Certainly pretty silly for her to just burn it as if that's gonna be the end of it, but you can't just leave it sitting around the hospital, after all.

[borednow]

Originally posted by pizzaguy19
"Girls develop faster" is a horsesh!t reason for Kara to be able to fly.

nah, she grew up on krypton, it makes sense for her to have fully developed powers, while clark left there as a baby.

Kryptonians don't have powers on Krypton... Kryptonians get there powers from the yellow sun, Krypton orbited a red star- no powers...

[Radioflyer]

I'm interested In what the explanation will be but I doubt it would be that. Clark has flown in the first episode and in the tornado. Clark just has to want to fly.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by borednow
Kryptonians don't have powers on Krypton... Kryptonians get there powers from the yellow sun, Krypton orbited a red star- no powers...

And we know that Kryptonians are sometimes sent to Earth for punishment and/or traiing, thanks to the episode where Jor-El came to Earth. Which also means they know they have powers on Earth, and can prepare for it on Krypton via simulation and whatever other methods they have. People always forget that in this Universe Kryptonians know all about Earth and all about their powers there, it's not just some planet Kal-El was sent to.

[xrayvision]

I just think regarding Kryptonians and their powers on Earth...knowing what powers you would have under a yellow sun is one thing, but accomplishing and controlling them is another. I don't think Kara or Zod should have known how to use their powers that fast. Brainiac is another thing since he is a machine and likely had powers on Krypton as well.

I don't know what age Kara is supposed to be yet, but she has just awakened from a long sleep and is getting exposed to the yellow sun for the first time. They should have slowly developed her like Clark. One realistic thing they always forget is that even though they know of the type of powers they will have, when first getting those powers, they should still be afraid of stuff that would normally kill them on Krypton. If someone was told that they would acquire certain powers and once they did a gun would be fired against them, I would guarantee that they would still flinch. And that flinching is equated to not fully accepting their powers, which is what Clark is doing with flight. He knows he can't get hurt but is still afraid of heights. I don't see why other Kryptonians wouldn't be afraid as well, since all prior experiences regarding dangerous heights on Krypton would ingrain an element of fear in their brain.

See, if they do have a Kara spinoff now, one thing they can't do anymore is develop her powers like they did with Clark.

[borednow]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I just think regarding Kryptonians and their powers on Earth...knowing what powers you would have under a yellow sun is one thing, but accomplishing and controlling them is another. I don't think Kara or Zod should have known how to use their powers that fast. Brainiac is another thing since he is a machine and likely had powers on Krypton as well.

I don't know what age Kara is supposed to be yet, but she has just awakened from a long sleep and is getting exposed to the yellow sun for the first time. They should have slowly developed her like Clark. One realistic thing they always forget is that even though they know of the type of powers they will have, when first getting those powers, they should still be afraid of stuff that would normally kill them on Krypton. If someone was told that they would acquire certain powers and once they did a gun would be fired against them, I would guarantee that they would still flinch. And that flinching is equated to not fully accepting their powers, which is what Clark is doing with flight. He knows he can't get hurt but is still afraid of heights. I don't see why other Kryptonians wouldn't be afraid as well, since all prior experiences regarding dangerous heights on Krypton would ingrain an element of fear in their brain.

See, if they do have a Kara spinoff now, one thing they can't do anymore is develop her powers like they did with Clark.

*claps* thank you. I never liked any of the Kyptonians using there powers so immediately. They should come with the standard Superstrength/Invulnerability and maybe even speed if they want to push it. The rest should come slowly or uncontrollably.

[Radioflyer]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
And we know that Kryptonians are sometimes sent to Earth for punishment and/or traiing, thanks to the episode where Jor-El came to Earth. Which also means they know they have powers on Earth, and can prepare for it on Krypton via simulation and whatever other methods they have. People always forget that in this Universe Kryptonians know all about Earth and all about their powers there, it's not just some planet Kal-El was sent to. "Some" Kryptonian were aware of what happens to them when on Earth. I think if all of them knew there would have been a stampede. I think that knowledge was kept quiet by the Kryptonian elite.


Originally posted by borednow
*claps* thank you. I never liked any of the Kyptonians using there powers so immediately. They should come with the standard Superstrength/Invulnerability and maybe even speed if they want to push it. The rest should come slowly or uncontrollably. Ditto. To be consistent that would have to be. Too bad they decided that all Kryptonians get their full power the minute they show up with the exception of Clark.


Originally posted by borednow
Kryptonians don't have powers on Krypton... Kryptonians get there powers from the yellow sun, Krypton orbited a red star- no powers... Ditto. Zod and his goons had their powers the moment they showed up. And Zod had flight. So for some reason all Kryptonian besides Clark have full power on arrival. Perhaps Zod's foot soldiers might have flown if it occurred to them to try.

Go figure.

[smallville38]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the conversation between MM and Clark just before he goes to face the supercharged Bizzaro was SOOO overdone. The acting and lines there was just amazingly bad IMO.

[CLANA4evr]

I voted other. The Bizarro/Lois scene was so unnecessary and forced. Tom and Erica don't have an ounce of chemistry in my opinion.

[wolverine316]

Without question the hypocrite that is Chloe. You just came back from the dead you should have had yourself checked out idiot. Then when Clark tried to talk to you about what happened in the damn, you definitely didn't want to talk about it. I guess you know how Clark feels when you are constantly in his business.

[SteveS]

That I messed up the recording and didn't get to watch it.

Hypocrisy? Where is the hypocrisy?

[MidgardDragon]

"Some" Kryptonian were aware of what happens to them when on Earth. I think if all of them knew there would have been a stampede. I think that knowledge was kept quiet by the Kryptonian elite.

Okay, then some. So what? Jor-El knew, why wouldn't Zor-El and Kara Zor-El in that case? Too much needless whining about Kara being able to fly. We get to see some cool effects and by extension Clark finally at least TRY to learn how to fly. There is no need to complain about that little bit, IMO. It creates a good situation for the show.

[Radioflyer]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Okay, then some. So what? Jor-El knew, why wouldn't Zor-El and Kara Zor-El in that case? Too much needless whining about Kara being able to fly. We get to see some cool effects and by extension Clark finally at least TRY to learn how to fly. There is no need to complain about that little bit, IMO. It creates a good situation for the show. I don't mind her flying as long as the reason behind it makes sence. A little consistancy would be nice.

[pizzaguy19]

Originally posted by wolverine316
Without question the hypocrite that is Chloe. You just came back from the dead you should have had yourself checked out idiot. Then when Clark tried to talk to you about what happened in the damn, you definitely didn't want to talk about it. I guess you know how Clark feels when you are constantly in his business.

er, hypocrite? We know she's afraid of being a meteor freak (who wouldn't, knowing what she knows. Especially when you consider her mom's condition.), and she obviously figured her power might have done SOMETHING in the dam, even if she doesn't know what yet. Thus, she'd be in no hurry to let a doctor examine her and bundle her off to 33.1 or bell rieve.

Same sort of feeling applies to telling Clark right now. She's trying to deny it/make it go away on her own right now, because she feels ashamed to be a "meteor freak." Give her a little time, she'll open up to clark.

[Cieraangel]

1. Lana's blonde wig in China.
2. The random guy Bizzaro set on fire but then wants to
play "Touch the Bootie" with Lois.
3. No Lionel.

[Theshadow129x]

i find it funny that this was a good episode yet people always look for logic in one single hour of a tv show. yes there were things that needed to be explained better but this was a great episode. and not every little detail like the time frame after bizarro hit and other crap needs to be explained in an hour nor would it have any significance in the story. they did right by sticking with the characters and dialog.

[Radioflyer]

Originally posted by pizzaguy19
er, hypocrite? We know she's afraid of being a meteor freak (who wouldn't, knowing what she knows. Especially when you consider her mom's condition.), and she obviously figured her power might have done SOMETHING in the dam, even if she doesn't know what yet. Thus, she'd be in no hurry to let a doctor examine her and bundle her off to 33.1 or bell rieve.

Same sort of feeling applies to telling Clark right now. She's trying to deny it/make it go away on her own right now, because she feels ashamed to be a "meteor freak." Give her a little time, she'll open up to clark. Hear,hear.

[clarksgirl93]

i hated lana in a wig, and i hated how they messed around with bizzaro's voice...it was weird!

[Welling_is_pretty]

I had to go with "where is the real Lex" and "Lana's disguise".

Both were terrible moments in an otherwise great episode!

[redraven]

I voted for all of them except 'Bizarro's face disortion effect was weird' and the 'Lana's stupid cheap wig' one. Didn't vote for 'nothing really' either.

[StrippedSmile]

All of them except Bizzaro's face. I thought that was alright.

[Dustmite]

I voted for Numbers 2, 3 and 7.

I also missed Martha a lot. Clark has just lost the woman that he loves and fought off a phantom that had all of his powers not to mention his body and having his mom around to talk to would have been good. A conversation with Martha about his upbringing and his 'humanity' and the choices that he faces would have fitted in nicely IMO.

[Kryptonian Boy]

The episode was great & I don't see Lana's wig as something to complain about, it rather shows immaturity. The episode was great, stop nitpicking.

[Bigx07]

Lana's wig and her return. I was hoping not to see her for a few more episodes

[kate_lang]

I loved lana scene in China. The red dress was amazing!
I don't care chloe power
Lois stupid comment in wrong momment about clark grabbing her ass.

Some people needs to live and forget lana...This is not normal. :rolleyes:

[amberdawn]

Lana, 'nuff said.

[Tacosupes]

I hate that stupid people are never satisfied. People *****ed about "JUSTICE" too. LAMe.

[chantal]

Originally posted by Runestone

One thing I hated was how Lana was looking at the moon and they changed the view to Clark looking at it just to emphasise that Clana is the greatest thing EVAR .:rolleyes:

What had me snickering (instead of sighing, blech!) was that it reminded me of the lyrics to the song "Somewhere Out There" from Spielberg's cartoon "An American Tail."

"Somwhere out there beneath the pale moonlight
Someone's thinking of me and loving me tonight

Somewhere out there someone's saying a prayer
That we'll find one another in that big somewhere out there

And even though I know how very far apart we are
It helps to think we might be wishing on the same bright star"

[skully]

Originally posted by Routh
You forgot these, J: - After all the trouble Bizarro goes through to kill Clark, he just knocks him out and walks away so Clark can heal. WTF? Bizarro's whole motivation was to kill Clark. Hehehe. I said to my nephew as we were watching that scene "Ah, the old bad guy fails to finish off the good guy cliche".

[DravenX]

The Martian Manhunter couldn't help Clark fight Bizarro because... he had a hair appointment? Expired meter? Battery died? What? Lame.
Are you serious? It's not his fight, it's Clarks.

[elway]

I hate the fact they made Bizarro a more powerfull alien than ZOD????? Zod gets done in by that crystal but yet Bizarro??? gose right through it???? NOPE AINT BUYIN IT.

[MidgardDragon]

Zod was a phantom, not his true full self, it's very very easy to buy that Bizarro, who was able to get a real body and was immune to the crystal, was more of a threat then a phantom trying to hold onto possession of a human body.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by DravenX
Are you serious? It's not his fight, it's Clarks.

Exactly! MMH said as much when discussing it with Clark. He said something like " I can help, but it's your fight" with the emphasis on YOUR.

[meteor]

i thought the whole episode was kind of stale. worst season premiere in a while imo.

[Kalerado]

Originally posted by meteor
i thought the whole episode was kind of stale. worst season premiere in a while imo.

I agree totally.

[gategod]

i see 0 point in adding Kara... it's like they are trying to move away from clark kent ... plus more woman to push him around lol, i still don't see why the show runners didn't just continue ahead and not cut apart chloes role by ...basically having people see her die..., and adding lois ... lois is nothing like "lois" and there relationship ... lmao, they started with a good cast, every time they add more they just screw up parts of the story,

hmmmm what else >.< lol

[KEakaCK]

If your trying to hide, why would you wear a blond wig in a city where blonds is a very rare thing? That would make you stand out like a sour thumb.

[DreadShamus]

I can't believe how nuts people are about the whole wig thing! Wigs are not all that uncommon in the asian countries now.
The complaints about how she got there so fast and had an apartment?... c'mon people, you know she didn't just fake her death THEN decide to run to China. She had it set up ahead of time.

[redboots]

I hate what they're doing to Lex, so that's what I voted for.

[kalel1980]

Everything was perfect,cool episode!

[Mr.]

Lana is Back -.-° IT is So #"$$& crazy

really im not crazy about smallville anymore... i'm pretty close from stopping...

Laters All

[jazel]

^^^:lol:
I hated how "quickly", he fell under Lana's spell. He's not human, is he ? Maybe IF I was a guy, a I could "appreciate" her charms.;)

[ty2192]

yea...i dislike the fact that kara can fly so early on in the series but clark can't.

[Flowergirl123]

I love almost everything about him. The only thig I didn't like was that he was in love with Lana just like Clark. I would have liked him to be in love with Lois. Because usually almost every guy who comes to Smallville likes Lana. And after season three she didn't really seem that specail anymore.

[Yasise]

Even if it is not one of my all-time favourites it is one of my favourites this season.

Tom in a double role is always amazing for me and he really did a great job there.

There are a few things I didn't like much or which I found weird, like e.g. why did Clark leave the boy and his injured/unconscious father and didn't help the boy to get his father to the hospital? He only nodded to that boy, after having vapourized the flod and left! I was a littel surprised about that.

The fight between Bizzaro and Clark could have been a bit longer. It was over too soon.

But all in all a good episode.

[lauraforever]

Absolutely nothing wrong with "Bizarro"

[Jaderoyale]

I don't think there was anything wrong with Bizarro. It was a great season opener.
Though, Lanas wig was hilarious.

[alejandrita439]

nothing wrong..
only that lana´s wig was weird