Smallville's Bizzaro like Doomsday

[Mello Penelo]

When Clark and J'onn had their moment in the loft, J'onn explained what Bizzaro is to Clark.

He said something along the lines of an experiment discarded at birth, brought up only on hate and anger.

This is basically Doomsday's backstory from the comics. He was thrown in a trash can and hated Kal-El for crying too much. He vowed to kill him.

[Heroes4Hire]

Yea also Doomsday was a Kryptonian experiment just like the phantom

[simaozinho200]

i never knew that

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Heroes4Hire
Yea also Doomsday was a Kryptonian experiment just like the phantom

That's what I just said. :rolleyes:

And besides, Bizzaro was a Lex experiment originally.

[MidgardDragon]

Doomsday, however, was pretty much a blank slate in the comics, at least in the Death Of arc. One mass of fists and spiky bony portrusions and very little character. That's not at all what Smallville Bizarro was.

[Heroes4Hire]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
That's what I just said. :rolleyes:

And besides, Bizzaro was a Lex experiment originally.


yea I just went back and read ur post fully my bad must of missed the experiment part the first time saw it the second time though

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Doomsday, however, was pretty much a blank slate in the comics, at least in the Death Of arc. One mass of fists and spiky bony portrusions and very little character. That's not at all what Smallville Bizarro was.

Other than being all "Invasion of The Body Snatchers," that's all this Bizzaro was too. He was tossed into the Phantom Zone for being a failed experiment. He had no personality other than hate and malice. Hence, just like Doomsday.

[Mello Penelo]

Bumping this.

[Mischael12]

not really as in Doomsday was not a kryptonian experiment. He did not hate Kal-El for crying too much wow this isn't dragonball z were Broly hated Goku for crying to much.

Doomsday was created by a scientist who consistently launched him too the kryptonian home world at a time when it was completely brutal. Not inhabited by kryptonians.

When Doomsday would die, the remains would be collected and regrown, due to this exposure to pain, Doomsday's gene's or meme's (lol) would remember every past moment and grew to fear/hate anything kryptonian.

[Mello Penelo]

Umm, Dragonballz is really a knock-off of Superman. And a crappy one at that.

I knew about the DNA rebuilding at death, but I chose not to include that. The most recent Doomsday did hate Clark and was cast off as a failed experiment.

[Mischael12]

Which doomsday are you talking about? The JLA one or the Comic book version?

Well you have to include it, its pretty crucial information. And again the Hatred for Clark stems for a general hatred of all things kryptonian.

DBZ isn't really so much a knockoff as it was inspired there is a difference. Same as how Heroes is inspired by X-men.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
When Clark and J'onn had their moment in the loft, J'onn explained what Bizzaro is to Clark.

He said something along the lines of an experiment discarded at birth, brought up only on hate and anger.

This is basically Doomsday's backstory from the comics. He was thrown in a trash can and hated Kal-El for crying too much. He vowed to kill him.

I could have sworn that I read Doomsday's origin as that of a pre-Kryptonian (a creature who lived on Krypton before the humanoid Kryptonians who we all know came to be). Funny thing is, I remember making a post last year about the phantom who eventually turned out to be Bizarro when he first appeared in Iguazu Falls and thinking that these monstrous, inhumanoid phantoms (unlike the Zod phantom) were the same species that Doomsday was.

[Mischael12]

Created by a scientist and launched too krypton were he would be destroyed and recreated thats the story i remember.

[Mello Penelo]

That's the story I was talking about. Doomsday was a Kryptonian experiment. And it failed.

[Mischael12]

who knows maybe i'm wrong though. I think he was created on past krypton and just was killed over and over again.

The thing is the one who created him wasn't a kryptonian.

[xrayvision]

^^Yeah I know. He is immune to whatever killed him in the past every time he comes back. Which means Superman can't kill him again.

Here is what I remember reading in issues of the comics. Wikipedia has it pretty close to what I remember reading:

The nameless being later to be called Doomsday was artificially created in the distant past on Krypton, long before the humanoid Kryptonian race had gained dominance over the planet. During this time period, Krypton was a violent, hellish world where only the absolute strongest of creatures could survive (at the time, the world's dominant lifeforms were said to be the most dangerous creatures in the universe). Doomsday's creator was a mysterious alien named Bertron, who wished to create the ultimate lifeform. To do so, Bertron and his team sent a baby onto the surface of the planet, where it would be instantly killed by the harsh environment or the vicious creatures inhabiting it. Each time, whatever of the lifeform's remains that survived were harvested and used again, to create a better, stronger version than the previous. In short, the mad scientist was using the method of cloning to accelerate the evolution of the being he was creating. Through decades of this process, the being who would eventually become Doomsday was forced to endure the agony of death, thousands upon thousands of times; the memory of these countless deaths was recorded in his genes and drove it to hate all life. Eventually, Doomsday gained the ability to evolve against what killed him in his prior life without the need of Bertron's technology. At this point he proceeded to hunt down and kill all of the lethal creatures that inhabited Krypton. Bertron himself met his death at the hands of his own creation.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Mischael12
who knows maybe i'm wrong though. I think he was created on past krypton and just was killed over and over again.

The thing is the one who created him wasn't a kryptonian.

But the Doomsday we know now, was reanimated by a Kryptonian. He was the last scientist in the line to work on him. The project was not a success, so he was tossed out. Yes, the "being" was present on Krypton for eons.

[Mischael12]

You can actually compare Doomsday to a Super Saiyan if you wanted too.

[Mello Penelo]

Ugh. Dragonballz sucks. :vomits:

[Mischael12]

Actually what happened at least from the comics, is that Doomsday escaped Krypton, wreaked havoc and was encased into a rocket that was launched where he ended up landing deep within Earths surface. Which is why when he first appeared he basically just popped out from the ground. The Doomsday that we knew was as i had said launched to kryptons surface at a time before kryptonians the alien who did it was unknown.

[Darkness Falls]

I can see some of the parralels (sp) between Biz and D-Day. The targeting of Clark , failed experiment, ect.
However Doomsday didn't think, exactly. It was a creature free of thought or rationality with only one goal, to survive. Of course the best way for D-day to survive is if EVERYTHING else was dead. It isn't really rage that motivates D-Day, because emotion is beyond it's capability. It knows nothing of love or hate, anger or sadness, simply because emotion of any kind would get in the way of what D-Day was created to do, survive.
Bizzarro had feelings (jealousy and hate being the big ones) and made plans, plotted and schemed. D-Day would've just started hitting its target and keep hittin' untill it stopped moving.